Lars, Chronicling America has the marriage of Ida More to William Pease, near the bottom of column 3. *The Saint Paul globe.* (St. Paul, Minn.), 06 May 1898. *Chronicling America: Historic American Newspapers*. Lib. of Congress. < http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn90059523/1898-05-06/ed-1/seq-2/> It is also in column 2 here under In Cupid's Realm. *The Saint Paul globe.* (St. Paul, Minn.), 08 May 1898. *Chronicling America: Historic American Newspapers*. Lib. of Congress. < http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn90059523/1898-05-08/ed-1/seq-21/> Annette On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 6:18 PM, Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Dear Barbara and other Listers! > > Thank you very much, Barbara, for your latest suggestions on this topic! > > To be honest, I have never thought of contacting the Episcopal Church in > this or any other matters. It might indeed be worth tryiong, but I fear it > may be a "tough" task! The cemetery as well as the funeral director were > not able to help me any further, and I have found out there are at least > four Episcopal churches in Little Rock, AR. It may seem like Reginald > Moore's widow as well as her children all moved from Little Rock, AR after > Reginald died, and then they MAY have taken grandma Ida with them, wherever > they went, even though she was 89 years old! > > My hope was that SOMEONE would run across that name IDA PEASE when > searching newspaper indexes? > > Sooner or later I feel she just has to show up... > > Thanks again for all new suggestions on this topic! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On Mar 10, 2015, at 7:38 PM, Barbara Young via wrote: > > > Dear Lars, > > > > That is too bad. > > > > Her other children were in Little Rock - are they still there? > > > > Would the Episcopal Church have anything? The funeral director and > > cemetery would have the name of the one who handled the arrangements if > > she was till in Little Rock when she died. > > > > All the best > > Sincerely, > > Barbara > > > > On 3/10/2015 8:27 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: > >> Dear Barbara and other Listers! > >> > >> Thank you very much, Barbara, for your latest message, > >> > >> Yes, I believe her last address was a nursing home, but it no longer > exists! And who knows where the records went...? > >> > >> Very sincerely yours, > >> > >> Lars E. Oyane > >> > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> > >> On Mar 10, 2015, at 7:17 PM, Barbara Young wrote: > >> > >>> Dear Lars, > >>> > >>> It appears that she may have moved after her son died. Was she living > with him? You might check that last address - it could be a Nursing home > or a home for the elderly. They perhaps have more information. > >>> > >>> All the best, > >>> Sincerely. > >>> Barbara in MA > >>> > >>> On 3/10/2015 7:52 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: > >>>> Dear Barbara, Jerrald and other listers! > >>>> > >>>> Thank you very much for your latest comments on this problem from > yesterday! I tried a couple of years ago to find an obituary for William > Pease but to no avail. I guess I am now hoping that something will show > about him in some newspaper database!? > >>>> > >>>> As far as Ida Irene is concerned, she is (according to ancestry.com) > listed in at least three Little Rock, AR city directories: > >>>> > >>>> Name: Mrs Ida I Pease > >>>> Gender: Female > >>>> Residence Year: 1949 > >>>> Street address: 2310 S Tyler > >>>> Residence Place: Little Rock, Arkansas, USA > >>>> Publication Title: Little Rock, Arkansas, City Directory, 1949 > >>>> > >>>> Name: Ida Pease I (wid. William) > >>>> Gender: Female > >>>> Residence Year: 1951 > >>>> Street address: 2310 S. Tyler > >>>> Residence Place: Little Rock, Arkansas, USA > >>>> > >>>> Publication Title: Little Rock, Arkansas, City Directory, 1951 > >>>> > >>>> Name: Mrs Ida Pease > >>>> Gender: Female > >>>> Residence Year: 1958 > >>>> Street address: 410 Commerce > >>>> Residence Place: Little Rock, Arkansas, USA > >>>> Publication Title: Little Rock, Arkansas, City Directory, 1958 > >>>> > >>>> In 1958 she was 89 years old. I should also add the her son in > Little Rock, AR was Reginald E. MOORE who died at Little Rock, AR in 1958! > His obituary follows: > >>>> > >>>> "Arkansas Gazette 6-18-1958 Page 13A > >>>> > >>>> Reginald E. Moore, Auto Broker > >>>> > >>>> Reginald E. Moore, aged 67, of 6609 E. Wakefield Drive, a retired > auto broker, died Monday at a Little Rock hospital. He had lived at Little > Rock for the past 16 years. He was an Episcopalian. Survivors include his > wife; four sons, William Moore of Los Angeles and James Moore, Harold > Moore and Richard Moore, all of Little Rock; a daughter, Mrs. Marion Towler > of Los Angeles, his mother, Mrs. Ida Irene Pease of Little Rock and four > grandchildren. Funeral arrangements will be announced by Drummond Funeral > Home." > >>>> > >>>> According to the funeral home Reginald was buried in a single grave > at the Pincrest Memorial Park cemetery at Alexander, AR. > >>>> > >>>> So, what happened to Ida?? > >>>> > >>>> Thanks again for your great assistance trying to solve this mystery! > >>>> > >>>> Very sincerely yours, > >>>> > >>>> Lars E. Oyane > >>>> > >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >>>> > >>>> On Mar 9, 2015, at 6:08 PM, Jerrald Lloyd via wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> William W. Pease > >>>>> Birth Aug 1857 in Anson, Somerset, Maine, USA Death 1913 in > Minnesota > >>>>> > >>>>> Birth > >>>>> 1857 > >>>>> Aug > >>>>> Anson, Somerset, Maine, USA > >>>>> > >>>>> Residence > >>>>> 1860 > >>>>> > >>>>> Age: 3 > >>>>> Anson, Somerset, Maine, USA > >>>>> > >>>>> Residence > >>>>> 1870 > >>>>> > >>>>> Age: 13 > >>>>> Anson, Somerset, Maine, USA > >>>>> > >>>>> Residence > >>>>> 1885 > >>>>> > >>>>> 1 May > >>>>> > >>>>> Age: 27 > >>>>> St Paul, Ramsey, Minnesota, USA > >>>>> > >>>>> Residence > >>>>> 1895 > >>>>> > >>>>> Age: 38 > >>>>> St Paul, Ramsey, Minnesota, USA > >>>>> > >>>>> Marriage to Ida Irene Felton > >>>>> 1898 > >>>>> 3 May > >>>>> > >>>>> Age: 40 > >>>>> Blue Earth, Faribault, Minnesota, USA > >>>>> > >>>>> Residence > >>>>> 1900 > >>>>> > >>>>> Age: 43 > >>>>> St Paul, Ramsey, Minnesota, USA > >>>>> > >>>>> Divorce from Ida Irene Felton > >>>>> 1905-1910 > >>>>> > >>>>> Age: 48 > >>>>> St Paul, Ramsey, Minnesota, USA > >>>>> > >>>>> Occupation > >>>>> 1910 > >>>>> > >>>>> Age: 53 > >>>>> Tailor > >>>>> > >>>>> Residence > >>>>> 1910 > >>>>> > >>>>> Age: 53 > >>>>> St Paul, Ramsey, Minnesota, USA > >>>>> > >>>>> Death > >>>>> 1913 > >>>>> > >>>>> Age: 56 > >>>>> Minnesota(probable) > >>>>> > >>>>> Burial > >>>>> 1913 > >>>>> North Anson, Somerset, Maine, USA > >>>>> > >>>>> -------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> From: "Lars E. Oyane via" <norway@rootsweb.com> > >>>>> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 9:39 AM > >>>>> To: <norway@rootsweb.com> > >>>>> Subject: [NOR] Charles F. Moore's wife Ida Irene and her 2nd husband > - > >>>>> twonew brick walls - maybe solved by newspaper articles? > >>>>> > >>>>>> Dear Listers, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I have no idea just how many hours I have spent researching this > very > >>>>>> "elusive" family, spreading out to Little Rock, AR as well as to > Somerset > >>>>>> Co., ME. I have finally put together the following manuscript, > with a > >>>>>> hope tat someone with expertise on newspaper research can help me > find in > >>>>>> particular TWO DEATHS and/or OBITUARIES. Let me show you my > manuscript: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Carl Fredrik aka Charles F. Moore, born in Sogndal Co., Norway Aug. > 15, > >>>>>> 1865, emigrated with his parents in 1869 and died in Chicago, IL > July 5, > >>>>>> 1927. He was married at Mankato, MN Nov. 2, 1885 to Ida Irene Gavin > >>>>>> Felton, born in Olmsted Co., MN April ?, 1869. She died after 1959, > >>>>>> probably at Little Rock, AR. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ##### (exact date and place of death for Ida Irene Gavin Felton > Moore > >>>>>> Pease?) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Charles and Ida were divorced about 1893, and Ida remarried in > Mankato, MN > >>>>>> May 5, 1898 to William Warren Pease, born in Somerset Co., ME Aug. > ?, > >>>>>> 1857. He supposedly died in Jan. or Feb. of 1913 and was buried in > >>>>>> Somerset Co., ME. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ##### (exact date and place of death for William Warren Pease?) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> William Pease was a tailor and he and Ida resided in St. Paul, > Ramsey Co., > >>>>>> MN, but were also divorced about 1908. Charles Moore was remarried > in > >>>>>> Chicago, IL Jan. 1, 1905 to Gertrude P. Heiserman, born in Fayette > Co., IA > >>>>>> July 6, 1874. She died at Oakland, CA July 26, 1951. Charles > Moore was a > >>>>>> pharmacist and a commercial salesman and lived with Ida at Mankato, > Blue > >>>>>> Earth Co., MN and at Fergus Falls, Otter tail Co., MN. After their > >>>>>> divorce Charles moved to St.Louis, MO, but after he married > Gertrude in > >>>>>> 1905, he settled down in Chicago, Cook Co., IL. As a widow > Gertrude moved > >>>>>> in the 1930's to Oakland, Alameda Co., CA. Officially Charles had > two > >>>>>> sons, both by his 1st wife Ida, but rumors say he only fathered the > oldest > >>>>>> one of them. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Any suggestions as to how the missing details about Ida and William > can be > >>>>>> found, would be more than appreciated! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks a million! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Very sincerely yours, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Lars E. Oyane > > Norwaylist Archiveshttp:// > archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Minnie B Cooke Birth 1903 in Canada Death 1945 in Chelan, Washington, USA +Save this person to your tree ?Comment on this ?View her family tree ?View family members ?Print? More options?Overview Facts and Sources Media Gallery Comments Member Connect Media Gallery No photos, stories, audio or video have been added yet. Timeline 2 Sources? Birth 1903 Canada Marriage to Otto D Bolstad 1919 Abt. Age: 16 Minnesota, USA 1 Source? Residence 1920 Age: 17 Evanston, Cook, Illinois, USA 1 Source? Residence 1930 Age: 27 Evanston, Cook, Illinois, USA Death 1945 Age: 42 Chelan, Washington, USA View details + Add Comment Comments No comments have been added yet. Family Members Parents ? William H Cooke1880 - ? ? Minnie E Cook1883 - ? Spouse & Children? ? Otto D Bolstad1901 - 1989 ? ? Private ? ? Private ? ? Private ? ? Daniel William Bolstad1928 - 2014 ? ? David Wesley Bolstad1930 - 1953 ? ... View Family Group Sheet Source Information @1920 -------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars E. Oyane via" <norway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 9:06 PM To: <norway@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [NOR] Otto Bolstad's marriages 1926 and 1950? > Dear Listers! > > Again I am hoping for newspaper articles to help me out finding answers to > these questions, and since no answers have reached me this last week, I > decided I would relaunch the questions. > > Thanks a million for your wonderful assistance! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On Mar 6, 2015, at 6:15 AM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: > >> Dear Listers! >> >> I have for quite some time tried to find the PLACES of these two >> marriages, but so far to no avail: >> >> Otto Daniel BOLSTAD, born in Pope Co., MN Jne 21, 1901, died at Chelan, >> WA Feb. 20, 1989 >> >> He was married 1st time June 10, 1926 - presumably in or near Evanston, >> IL - to >> >> Minnie Blanche COOK, born at Toronto, ON Sep. 16, 1902, died in Portland, >> OR Dec. 22, 1945 >> >> He was married 2nd time Nov. 11, 1950 - presumably in Sequim, WA or in >> Anchorage, AK - to >> >> Cecile Pearl REINKE, nee BLANCHARD, born in Waushara Co., WI June 23, >> 1894, died in Spokane, WA Sep. 10, 1966 >> >> He also married a 3rd time at Coeur d'Alene, ID Oct. 13, 1969, but that >> marriage has been taken care of before... >> >> I am rather "stumped" with the fact that I cannot find these marriages >> anywhere, so now I ask you, dear Listers, whether you can help me? Maybe >> newspaper announcements can be found? >> >> Thanks a million in advance for your great assistance in this matter! >> >> Very sincerely yours, >> >> Lars E. Oyane > > Norwaylist > Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >

Lars, I found a brief obit for his first wife, Minnie, in 1945, and a longer obit for their son David, who died in a plane crash in North Africa in 1953. Neither gave any clue as to the marriage location. there was an Otto Bolstad in Grand Forks, ND, a teacher, but your Otto would not have been old enough to be that man. Minnie died 22 Dec., was the wife of Otto D. Bolstad, mother of Daniel, David, Ralph, Helen, Jean, Doris, Lois and Joan, daughter of William H. Cook. She was a member of Central Lutheran Church and was buried at Lincoln memorial Park. (Oregonian, Portland, Dec. 25, 1945) David was born in Chicago October 30, 1930, attended school at Sequim, Wash., and Benson High School in Portland, Oregon. His survivors were his widow, Nina D. Bolstad, Rossier City, La. (this should be Bossier City), who was expecting their second child in May, one son David W. Bolstad, Jr., 3, father and step-mother Mr. and Mrs. Otto D. Bolstad, Mountain View, Alaska; five sisters, Helen Campbell, Chicago; Lois Olson, Lowell, Wash.; Joan Bolstad, Mountain View, Alaska, and Jean Anson and Doris Liebe, Hermiston; two brothers, Airman 1/C Daniel Bolstad, Tripoli, and Ralph Bolstad, Everett, and grandparents, mr. and Mrs. H. D. Bolstad, Everett. He was buried in Willamette National Cemetery.(Portland Oregonian, Feb. 25, 1953) Annette On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 8:06 PM, Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Dear Listers! > > Again I am hoping for newspaper articles to help me out finding answers to > these questions, and since no answers have reached me this last week, I > decided I would relaunch the questions. > > Thanks a million for your wonderful assistance! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On Mar 6, 2015, at 6:15 AM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: > > > Dear Listers! > > > > I have for quite some time tried to find the PLACES of these two > marriages, but so far to no avail: > > > > Otto Daniel BOLSTAD, born in Pope Co., MN Jne 21, 1901, died at Chelan, > WA Feb. 20, 1989 > > > > He was married 1st time June 10, 1926 - presumably in or near Evanston, > IL - to > > > > Minnie Blanche COOK, born at Toronto, ON Sep. 16, 1902, died in > Portland, OR Dec. 22, 1945 > > > > He was married 2nd time Nov. 11, 1950 - presumably in Sequim, WA or in > Anchorage, AK - to > > > > Cecile Pearl REINKE, nee BLANCHARD, born in Waushara Co., WI June 23, > 1894, died in Spokane, WA Sep. 10, 1966 > > > > He also married a 3rd time at Coeur d'Alene, ID Oct. 13, 1969, but that > marriage has been taken care of before... > > > > I am rather "stumped" with the fact that I cannot find these marriages > anywhere, so now I ask you, dear Listers, whether you can help me? Maybe > newspaper announcements can be found? > > > > Thanks a million in advance for your great assistance in this matter! > > > > Very sincerely yours, > > > > Lars E. Oyane > > Norwaylist Archiveshttp:// > archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

John Baihm Birth 1853 in Germany Death +Save this person to your tree ?Comment on this ?View his family tree ?View family members ?Print? More options?Overview Facts and Sources Media Gallery Comments Member Connect Media Gallery No photos, stories, audio or video have been added yet. Timeline 1 Source? Birth 1853 Germany 1 Source? Residence 1900 Age: 47 Menominee town (excl. Menominee city), Dunn, Wisconsin View details + Add Comment Comments No comments have been added yet. Family Members Parents ? No Father ? No Mother Spouse & Children? ? Margaret Brehm1862 - ? ? John Brihm1883 - ? ? Dora E Johnson Trinko1884 - 1969 ? ? Louis Brihm1891 - ? ? Mary Brihm1898 - ? ... View Family Group Sheet Source Informatio -------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars E. Oyane via" <norway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 9:28 PM To: <norway@rootsweb.com> Subject: [NOR] Dora Trinko Johnson of Milwaukee,WI - her family background via Menomonie, WI - help, please? > Dear Listers, > > This problem has been presented on a list of emigration from Germany, but > no decisive information has come out of it, so now I try you > Norway-listers, hoping that maybe newspaper articles, perhaps obituaries, > can be found in and around Menomonie, WI? > > I am trying to identify one Dora E. TRINKO who was probably born at > ERDWEIS, Niederoesterreich, Austria Nov. 24, 1884 as the daughter of one > Jos. Trinko and wife Mary, and who supposedly emigrated to Menomonie, WI > about 1892. She married in Milwaukee, WI June 17, 1909 to Christian > Johnson from Buffalo Co.,WI, born June 10, 1882. Both parents came from > Norway! > > There are several TRINKO families in and around Menomonie, WI, and I > suspect they are all related. I am trying to find information about > Dora's background! > > * Anton Trinko (born 1848) who with wife Maria (born 1855) apparently > emigrated in 1891 with 6 children, including Sylvester (1886) said to be > born at ERDWEIS in 1886 (re: WW2 draft record). > > * Johan "John" Trinko (born 1850), Clerk of Court in Dunn Co., WI about > 1900, apparently emigrated as a widower in 1888 with a son Joseph (born > 1876) > > * Frank Trinko (born 1857), supposedly emigrated in 1881, settled in Pepin > Co., WI > > * Silvester Trinko (born 1862), supposedly emigrated in 1881, resided at > Menomonie, WI > > One of these Trinkos was a County Official in Dunn Co., WI > > I believe Anton, John, Frank and Silvester were brothers, and I suspect > they had another brother Joseph who married a Mary and who stayed behind > in Austria. Their daughter Dora emigrated in the early 1890's, probably > accompanying a relative, maybe "uncle" Anton? > > By the way, I discovered an old debate on ancestry.com including this > family (posted in 2004) (This family is, just like Sylvester above, > referred to Erdweis): > > 1. Anna Marie (Kahl)1 Trinko was born in Beinhofen, Austria circa 1770. > Anna died Jan 31, 1848 in Erdweis, Niederoesterreich, Austria, at 77 years > of age. She married Lorenz Trinko in Erdweis, Niederoesterreich, Austria, > circa 1797. Lorenz was born in Erdweis, Austria circa 1766. Lorenz died > Aug 26, 1830 in Erdweis, Niederoesterreich, Austria, at 64 years of age. > Anna Marie (Kahl) Trinko and Lorenz Trinko had the following children: > > i. Eleanora Trinko was born in Erdweis, Niederoesterreich, Austria Feb 17, > 1798. > ii. Johannes Trinko was born in Erdweis, Niederoesterreich, Austria May > 28, 1800. > iii. Magdalena Trinko was born in Erdweis, Niederoesterreich, Austria Jul > 9, 1803. > iv. Anna Maria Trinko was born in Erdweis, Niederoesterreich, Austria Aug > 10, 1806. > v. Joseph Trinko was born Mar 5, 1808 and died Jun 18, 1873. > vi. Elisabetha Trinko was born in Erdweis, Niederoesterreich, Austria Nov > 10, 1810. > vii. Andreas Trinko was born in Erdweis, Niederoesterreich, Austria Nov > 30, 1813. > > Thanks a million for any assistance I can get identifying Dora and her > family relationship! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > > > > Norwaylist > Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >

Dora E Johnson Trinko Birth 24 November 1884 in Austria Death 24 February 1969 in Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, United States of America +Save this person to your tree ?Comment on this ?View her family tree ?View family members ?Print? More options?Overview Facts and Sources Media Gallery Comments Member Connect Media Gallery No photos, stories, audio or video have been added yet. Timeline 7 Sources? Birth 1884 24 Nov Austria 1 Source? Arrival 1892 Age: 8 1 Source? Arrival 1895 Age: 11 1 Source? Residence 1900 Age: 16 Menominee Town (Excl. Menominee City), Dunn, Wisconsin 1 Source? Residence 1910 Age: 26 Milwaukee Ward 16, Milwaukee, Wisconsin 1 Source? Residence 1920 Age: 36 Milwaukee Ward 23, Milwaukee, Wisconsin 1 Source? Residence 1930 Age: 46 Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Wisconsin 1 Source? Residence 1940 1 Apr Age: 55 Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, United States 2 Sources? Death 1969 24 Feb Age: 84 Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, United States of America View details + Add Comment Comments No comments have been added yet. Family Members Parents ? John Baihm1853 - ? ? Margaret Brehm1862 - ? Show siblings? Spouse & Children? ? Christian Johnson1882 - ? ? Private ? ? Private ? ? Private ? ? Virginia M Johnson1915 - 2003 ? ? Donald F Johnson1916 - 2003 ? ? Oliver Johnson1917 - 1993 ? ? Jeanette Johnson1919 - 1993 ? ... View Family Group Sheet Source Information @1900 United State -------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars E. Oyane via" <norway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 9:28 PM To: <norway@rootsweb.com> Subject: [NOR] Dora Trinko Johnson of Milwaukee,WI - her family background via Menomonie, WI - help, please? > Dear Listers, > > This problem has been presented on a list of emigration from Germany, but > no decisive information has come out of it, so now I try you > Norway-listers, hoping that maybe newspaper articles, perhaps obituaries, > can be found in and around Menomonie, WI? > > I am trying to identify one Dora E. TRINKO who was probably born at > ERDWEIS, Niederoesterreich, Austria Nov. 24, 1884 as the daughter of one > Jos. Trinko and wife Mary, and who supposedly emigrated to Menomonie, WI > about 1892. She married in Milwaukee, WI June 17, 1909 to Christian > Johnson from Buffalo Co.,WI, born June 10, 1882. Both parents came from > Norway! > > There are several TRINKO families in and around Menomonie, WI, and I > suspect they are all related. I am trying to find information about > Dora's background! > > * Anton Trinko (born 1848) who with wife Maria (born 1855) apparently > emigrated in 1891 with 6 children, including Sylvester (1886) said to be > born at ERDWEIS in 1886 (re: WW2 draft record). > > * Johan "John" Trinko (born 1850), Clerk of Court in Dunn Co., WI about > 1900, apparently emigrated as a widower in 1888 with a son Joseph (born > 1876) > > * Frank Trinko (born 1857), supposedly emigrated in 1881, settled in Pepin > Co., WI > > * Silvester Trinko (born 1862), supposedly emigrated in 1881, resided at > Menomonie, WI > > One of these Trinkos was a County Official in Dunn Co., WI > > I believe Anton, John, Frank and Silvester were brothers, and I suspect > they had another brother Joseph who married a Mary and who stayed behind > in Austria. Their daughter Dora emigrated in the early 1890's, probably > accompanying a relative, maybe "uncle" Anton? > > By the way, I discovered an old debate on ancestry.com including this > family (posted in 2004) (This family is, just like Sylvester above, > referred to Erdweis): > > 1. Anna Marie (Kahl)1 Trinko was born in Beinhofen, Austria circa 1770. > Anna died Jan 31, 1848 in Erdweis, Niederoesterreich, Austria, at 77 years > of age. She married Lorenz Trinko in Erdweis, Niederoesterreich, Austria, > circa 1797. Lorenz was born in Erdweis, Austria circa 1766. Lorenz died > Aug 26, 1830 in Erdweis, Niederoesterreich, Austria, at 64 years of age. > Anna Marie (Kahl) Trinko and Lorenz Trinko had the following children: > > i. Eleanora Trinko was born in Erdweis, Niederoesterreich, Austria Feb 17, > 1798. > ii. Johannes Trinko was born in Erdweis, Niederoesterreich, Austria May > 28, 1800. > iii. Magdalena Trinko was born in Erdweis, Niederoesterreich, Austria Jul > 9, 1803. > iv. Anna Maria Trinko was born in Erdweis, Niederoesterreich, Austria Aug > 10, 1806. > v. Joseph Trinko was born Mar 5, 1808 and died Jun 18, 1873. > vi. Elisabetha Trinko was born in Erdweis, Niederoesterreich, Austria Nov > 10, 1810. > vii. Andreas Trinko was born in Erdweis, Niederoesterreich, Austria Nov > 30, 1813. > > Thanks a million for any assistance I can get identifying Dora and her > family relationship! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > > > > Norwaylist > Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >

I don't know if you have this Christian Johnson Birth 23 Sep 1882 in Menomonie, Dunn, Wisconsin Death +Save this person to your tree ?Comment on this ?View his family tree ?View family members ?Print? More options?Overview Facts and Sources Media Gallery Comments Member Connect Media Gallery No photos, stories, audio or video have been added yet. Timeline 5 Sources? Birth 1882 23 Sep Menomonie, Dunn, Wisconsin 1 Source? Residence 1880 Alma, Jackson, Wisconsin, United States 1 Source? Residence 1900 Age: 18 Naples Town, Buffalo, Wisconsin 1 Source? Residence 1930 Age: 48 Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Wisconsin View details + Add Comment Comments No comments have been added yet. Family Members Parents ? Andrew H Johnson1853 - ? ? Anna Johnson1853 - ? Show siblings? Spouse & Children? ? Dora E Johnson Trinko1884 - 1969 ? ? Private ? ? Private ? ? Private ? ? Virginia M Johnson1915 - 2003 ? ? Donald F Johnson1916 - 2003 ? ? Oliver Johnson1917 - 1993 ? ? Jeanette Johnson1919 - 1993 ? ... View Family Group Sheet Source Information @1880 United States Federal Census1 citation -------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars E. Oyane via" <norway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 9:28 PM To: <norway@rootsweb.com> Subject: [NOR] Dora Trinko Johnson of Milwaukee,WI - her family background via Menomonie, WI - help, please? > Dear Listers, > > This problem has been presented on a list of emigration from Germany, but > no decisive information has come out of it, so now I try you > Norway-listers, hoping that maybe newspaper articles, perhaps obituaries, > can be found in and around Menomonie, WI? > > I am trying to identify one Dora E. TRINKO who was probably born at > ERDWEIS, Niederoesterreich, Austria Nov. 24, 1884 as the daughter of one > Jos. Trinko and wife Mary, and who supposedly emigrated to Menomonie, WI > about 1892. She married in Milwaukee, WI June 17, 1909 to Christian > Johnson from Buffalo Co.,WI, born June 10, 1882. Both parents came from > Norway! > > There are several TRINKO families in and around Menomonie, WI, and I > suspect they are all related. I am trying to find information about > Dora's background! > > * Anton Trinko (born 1848) who with wife Maria (born 1855) apparently > emigrated in 1891 with 6 children, including Sylvester (1886) said to be > born at ERDWEIS in 1886 (re: WW2 draft record). > > * Johan "John" Trinko (born 1850), Clerk of Court in Dunn Co., WI about > 1900, apparently emigrated as a widower in 1888 with a son Joseph (born > 1876) > > * Frank Trinko (born 1857), supposedly emigrated in 1881, settled in Pepin > Co., WI > > * Silvester Trinko (born 1862), supposedly emigrated in 1881, resided at > Menomonie, WI > > One of these Trinkos was a County Official in Dunn Co., WI > > I believe Anton, John, Frank and Silvester were brothers, and I suspect > they had another brother Joseph who married a Mary and who stayed behind > in Austria. Their daughter Dora emigrated in the early 1890's, probably > accompanying a relative, maybe "uncle" Anton? > > By the way, I discovered an old debate on ancestry.com including this > family (posted in 2004) (This family is, just like Sylvester above, > referred to Erdweis): > > 1. Anna Marie (Kahl)1 Trinko was born in Beinhofen, Austria circa 1770. > Anna died Jan 31, 1848 in Erdweis, Niederoesterreich, Austria, at 77 years > of age. She married Lorenz Trinko in Erdweis, Niederoesterreich, Austria, > circa 1797. Lorenz was born in Erdweis, Austria circa 1766. Lorenz died > Aug 26, 1830 in Erdweis, Niederoesterreich, Austria, at 64 years of age. > Anna Marie (Kahl) Trinko and Lorenz Trinko had the following children: > > i. Eleanora Trinko was born in Erdweis, Niederoesterreich, Austria Feb 17, > 1798. > ii. Johannes Trinko was born in Erdweis, Niederoesterreich, Austria May > 28, 1800. > iii. Magdalena Trinko was born in Erdweis, Niederoesterreich, Austria Jul > 9, 1803. > iv. Anna Maria Trinko was born in Erdweis, Niederoesterreich, Austria Aug > 10, 1806. > v. Joseph Trinko was born Mar 5, 1808 and died Jun 18, 1873. > vi. Elisabetha Trinko was born in Erdweis, Niederoesterreich, Austria Nov > 10, 1810. > vii. Andreas Trinko was born in Erdweis, Niederoesterreich, Austria Nov > 30, 1813. > > Thanks a million for any assistance I can get identifying Dora and her > family relationship! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > > > > Norwaylist > Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >

Dear Listers, This problem has been presented on a list of emigration from Germany, but no decisive information has come out of it, so now I try you Norway-listers, hoping that maybe newspaper articles, perhaps obituaries, can be found in and around Menomonie, WI? I am trying to identify one Dora E. TRINKO who was probably born at ERDWEIS, Niederoesterreich, Austria Nov. 24, 1884 as the daughter of one Jos. Trinko and wife Mary, and who supposedly emigrated to Menomonie, WI about 1892. She married in Milwaukee, WI June 17, 1909 to Christian Johnson from Buffalo Co.,WI, born June 10, 1882. Both parents came from Norway! There are several TRINKO families in and around Menomonie, WI, and I suspect they are all related. I am trying to find information about Dora's background! * Anton Trinko (born 1848) who with wife Maria (born 1855) apparently emigrated in 1891 with 6 children, including Sylvester (1886) said to be born at ERDWEIS in 1886 (re: WW2 draft record). * Johan "John" Trinko (born 1850), Clerk of Court in Dunn Co., WI about 1900, apparently emigrated as a widower in 1888 with a son Joseph (born 1876) * Frank Trinko (born 1857), supposedly emigrated in 1881, settled in Pepin Co., WI * Silvester Trinko (born 1862), supposedly emigrated in 1881, resided at Menomonie, WI One of these Trinkos was a County Official in Dunn Co., WI I believe Anton, John, Frank and Silvester were brothers, and I suspect they had another brother Joseph who married a Mary and who stayed behind in Austria. Their daughter Dora emigrated in the early 1890's, probably accompanying a relative, maybe "uncle" Anton? By the way, I discovered an old debate on ancestry.com including this family (posted in 2004) (This family is, just like Sylvester above, referred to Erdweis): 1. Anna Marie (Kahl)1 Trinko was born in Beinhofen, Austria circa 1770. Anna died Jan 31, 1848 in Erdweis, Niederoesterreich, Austria, at 77 years of age. She married Lorenz Trinko in Erdweis, Niederoesterreich, Austria, circa 1797. Lorenz was born in Erdweis, Austria circa 1766. Lorenz died Aug 26, 1830 in Erdweis, Niederoesterreich, Austria, at 64 years of age. Anna Marie (Kahl) Trinko and Lorenz Trinko had the following children: i. Eleanora Trinko was born in Erdweis, Niederoesterreich, Austria Feb 17, 1798. ii. Johannes Trinko was born in Erdweis, Niederoesterreich, Austria May 28, 1800. iii. Magdalena Trinko was born in Erdweis, Niederoesterreich, Austria Jul 9, 1803. iv. Anna Maria Trinko was born in Erdweis, Niederoesterreich, Austria Aug 10, 1806. v. Joseph Trinko was born Mar 5, 1808 and died Jun 18, 1873. vi. Elisabetha Trinko was born in Erdweis, Niederoesterreich, Austria Nov 10, 1810. vii. Andreas Trinko was born in Erdweis, Niederoesterreich, Austria Nov 30, 1813. Thanks a million for any assistance I can get identifying Dora and her family relationship! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane

Lars, City directories usually do have a time lag, of at least a year, for some people. So "your" Matilda might have still been legally married to J. Wm. Anderson until 1919, while living with Emory Webber, rather than J. Wm. Anderson, in the 1917 directory. Also, the definition of "common law" marriage is rather slippery. It doesn't mean living together and "pretending" to be married. In the states that permit common law marriage, a couple who lives together for a certain number of years, which varies by state, is legally married after that length of time. If they want to split up, they would have to get a divorce. So it's not pretending. "Just living together" is different--it really is just living together. I'm not sure if there are states where living together can turn into a common law marriage without a couple realizing it. I believe I have read a website which clarifies this for the various states, but given how common it has gotten for couples to forgo the marriage ceremony these days, I don't know if the difference matters so much. It is true that in many states now, a couple can register as "domestic partners" and get the rights and responsibilities of marriage without being married. The rights include among other things, that if one dies without a will, the other automatically inherits, and if one is in the hospital very ill, the other can make health decisions for them. If they are "just living together," they do not get those privileges. However, for the time period you're talking about, the distinction truly did matter. Don't know if this helps! Do you still need the marriage of John and Matilda, in the fall of 1919? If it was in OR or Seattle, and the paperwork still exists, I should be able to find it for you. Doris On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 6:37 PM, Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Dear Listers, > > Hoping that Clark doesn't accuse me for hijacking the list again (hehe), I > would like to relaunch this inquiry regarding John William Anderson and his > marriage to Mathilda Webber, and maybe even get some help to figure out > what became of John? I am completely "stuck" on this problem... Maybe > newspaper clippings can help? > > Thanks a million for your wonderful assistance! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On Mar 8, 2015, at 5:23 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: > > > Dear Barbara, Jerrald and other Listers! > > > > Thank you very much for your latest comments on my Mathilda Anderson > problem! > > > > I guess I expressed myself rather "clumsy" when I suggested that John > and Mathilda lived in a "common-law" union. It would be more correct to > say that they "lived together", pretending being husband and wife! OR, are > we talking about two different Mathilda's? > > > > To follow Emery Webber's later destiny falls "kind-of" outside my > project, but I note with interest that Emery must have remarried very > shortly after he divorced Mathilda! > > > > Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! Hopefully more > can be found on John William Anderson and his marriage to Mathilda... I > keep twisting my fingers... > > > > Very sincerely yours, > > > > Lars E. Oyane > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > On Mar 8, 2015, at 2:46 PM, Jerrald Lloyd via wrote: > > > >> > >> Emery E Webber in the 1920 United States Federal Census > >> > >> Name: > >> Emery E Webber > >> [Emery E Weller] > >> > >> Age: > >> 43 > >> > >> Birth Year: > >> abt 1877 > >> > >> Birthplace: > >> Minnesota > >> > >> Home in 1920: > >> Portland, Multnomah, Oregon > >> > >> Street: > >> 66th Street SE > >> > >> House Number: > >> 5512 > >> > >> Race: > >> White > >> > >> Gender: > >> Male > >> > >> Relation to Head of House: > >> Head > >> > >> Marital Status: > >> Married > >> > >> Spouse's Name: > >> Ethel Webber > >> > >> Father's Birthplace: > >> Holland > >> > >> Mother's Birthplace: > >> United States > >> [United States of America] > >> > >> Able to Speak English: > >> Yes > >> > >> Occupation: > >> Chimney Insp > >> > >> Industry: > >> Working Out > >> > >> Employment Field: > >> Wage or Salary > >> > >> Neighbors: > >> View others on page > >> > >> Household Members: > >> > >> Emery E Webber 43 > >> Ethel Webber 33 > >> Lillian E Batchelor 15 > >> Ida M Batchelor 12 > >> Henry M Batchelor 8 > >> Mary W Batchelor 6 > >> > >> > >> -------------------------------------------------- > >> From: "Lars E. Oyane via" <norway@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 1:38 PM > >> To: <norway@rootsweb.com> > >> Subject: Re: [NOR] 2nd attempt: Mathilda Ellsworth Anderson > >> (1874-1927) -biography 1913-1920 Portland, OR-Seattle, WA - newspaper > >> assistance? > >> > >>> Dear Listers, > >>> > >>> I have started asking myself what really happened in Portland, OR in > those > >>> years preceding 1920? > >>> > >>> The 1917 Portland city directory shows, among others, these entries: > >>> > >>> * J. Wm. Anderson (Matilda), printer, res. 1917 on 308 Jackson > >>> > >>> * Emery Webber (Matilda), chimney sweep., res. 690 1/2 E Morrison > >>> > >>> Can there be a "time lag" in the city directory? Is it possible that > >>> Matilda was still "formally" married to Emery Webber until 1919, while > in > >>> "reality" she was already in 1917 a "common-law" wife of John William > >>> Anderson's? > >>> > >>> In the WW1 draft records from 1918 Emery Webber is clearly alone, since > >>> his "nearest relative" was his mother, while John William Anderson's > >>> "nearest relative" was his wife Matilda? > >>> > >>> And yet I am convinced I have the "right" John William Anderson! They > >>> moved about 1919 to Seattle, King Co., WA where I find them in the city > >>> directories as follows: > >>> > >>> * 1920: John W. Anderson (Matilda), salesman, res. B3716 Angeline > >>> > >>> * 1922: John W. Anderson (Matilda), salesman Tent & Awning Co., res. > 3716 > >>> Angeline > >>> > >>> * 1924: J Wm Anderson (Matilda), res. 4017 23rd Ave SW > >>> > >>> * 1925: John W. Anderson (Mathilda), laborer, res. 4017 23rd Ave SW > >>> > >>> * 1926: Wm Anderson (Matilda), foreman ST&A Co, res. 4015(!) 23rd Ave > SW > >>> > >>> * 1927: John W Anderson (Mathilda), salesman, res. 4017 23rd Ave SW > >>> > >>> Then John married Lucette, and they are together for one year: > >>> > >>> * 1928: John W Anderson (Lucette), salesman ST&A Co, res. 713 28th Ave > >>> > >>> Lucette remained on the same address, while John moved out. Perhaps > these > >>> entries are for him: > >>> > >>> * 1929: J W Anderson, res. 2320 41st Ave SW > >>> > >>> * 1930: J W Anderson, laborer, res. Hazel, WA > >>> > >>> I have always wondered what became of John William Anderson! Any > >>> suggestions? > >>> > >>> Thanks again for your wonderful assistance identifying John William > >>> Anderson and his wife/wives! > >>> > >>> Very sincerely yours, > >>> > >>> Lars E. Oyane > >>> > >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >>> > >>> On Mar 7, 2015, at 7:41 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: > >>> > >>>> Dear Mark and other Listers! > >>>> > >>>> Mark, I have found something very interesting in the WW1 draft record > >>>> system which makes me wonder whether that divorce "debate" from > Portland, > >>>> OR could be a year or more off? > >>>> > >>>> Emery Elsworth Webber's WW1 draft record from 1918 shows him as being > >>>> unmarried and a ship yard worker, and his closest relative was his > mother > >>>> Ella Webber! Why would he be accused by Mathilda for NOT beig a ship > >>>> yard worker, when he already was one? > >>>> > >>>> Then I found this in the WW1 draft records: > >>>> > >>>> John William ANDERSON, born Aug. 4, 1877, a truck driver residing on > 492 > >>>> 1/2 E. Burnside in Portland, OR with nearest relative MATILDA > ANDERSON, > >>>> same address. The card is signed Sep. 12, 1918 and has an extra > notation > >>>> with a new address: 2957 Charles street, Seattle, WA! > >>>> > >>>> John's age is a perfect "match" with Mathilda's 4th husband, and they > did > >>>> move to Seattle, WA, so I believe this is the one we want! > >>>> > >>>> But then, Emery and Mathilda's divorce must have occurred BEFORE Sep > of > >>>> 1918. > >>>> > >>>> Next question: Can John and Mathilda's marriage be found in Oregon? > >>>> > >>>> Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! > >>>> > >>>> Very sincerely yours, > >>>> > >>>> Lars E. Oyane > >>>> > >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >>>> > >>>> On Mar 7, 2015, at 1:20 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Dear Mark, Barbara, Greg and other listers! > >>>>> > >>>>> "What a wonderful world - and list..." Thanks a million, Mark, for > >>>>> having discovered the "secret" behind Mathilda's 3rd marriage! It is > >>>>> just amazing what these newspaper columns may include of > information, as > >>>>> long as it's possible to search for names in them! Thanks also to > >>>>> Barbara and Greg for further comments! If it wasn't for Ellsworth > being > >>>>> of German background, I would have thought they were Ole and Lena > >>>>> arguing in that divorce procedure from Portland...!! > >>>>> > >>>>> Looking around a little bit, I see that Emery Elsworth Webber on his > WW1 > >>>>> draft says he was born Oct. 4, 1875, and he was then indeed working > in > >>>>> the ship yards!!! The 1880 census for Rice Co., MN gives his > father's > >>>>> name as Conrad Weber, and the family obviously got around! In 1900 > they > >>>>> were in Grand Forks, ND, but the children born between 1887 and 1896 > >>>>> were born in Washington! Then by 1910 Conrad had died, and his wife > had > >>>>> moved to Portland OR! > >>>>> > >>>>> Now that the "Ellsworth" part of this problem has been solved, I > hope it > >>>>> may also be possible to find Mathilda's 4th marriage to John W. > >>>>> Anderson? They must have been married in the fall of 1919, between > >>>>> Portland, OR and Seattle, WA? > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks again, Mark for once more making my day! > >>>>> > >>>>> Very sincerely yours, > >>>>> > >>>>> Lars E. Oyane > >>>>> > >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >>>>> > >>>>> On Mar 7, 2015, at 10:54 AM, Mark Erickson via wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> The Oregon Daily Journal (Portland, Oregon) · Sun, Apr 6, 1919 · > Page > >>>>>> 10 > >>>>>> DIVORCE COURT A BUSY PLACE > >>>>>> E. Ellsworth Webber, a chimney sweep, alleges in a complaint for > >>>>>> divorce > >>>>>> that his wife, Matilda, nagged him continually to change his > vocation > >>>>>> and seek more lucrative employment in the shipyards > Norwaylist Archiveshttp:// > archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Listers! Again I am hoping for newspaper articles to help me out finding answers to these questions, and since no answers have reached me this last week, I decided I would relaunch the questions. Thanks a million for your wonderful assistance! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Mar 6, 2015, at 6:15 AM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: > Dear Listers! > > I have for quite some time tried to find the PLACES of these two marriages, but so far to no avail: > > Otto Daniel BOLSTAD, born in Pope Co., MN Jne 21, 1901, died at Chelan, WA Feb. 20, 1989 > > He was married 1st time June 10, 1926 - presumably in or near Evanston, IL - to > > Minnie Blanche COOK, born at Toronto, ON Sep. 16, 1902, died in Portland, OR Dec. 22, 1945 > > He was married 2nd time Nov. 11, 1950 - presumably in Sequim, WA or in Anchorage, AK - to > > Cecile Pearl REINKE, nee BLANCHARD, born in Waushara Co., WI June 23, 1894, died in Spokane, WA Sep. 10, 1966 > > He also married a 3rd time at Coeur d'Alene, ID Oct. 13, 1969, but that marriage has been taken care of before... > > I am rather "stumped" with the fact that I cannot find these marriages anywhere, so now I ask you, dear Listers, whether you can help me? Maybe newspaper announcements can be found? > > Thanks a million in advance for your great assistance in this matter! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane

Lars, Remind us, please, what state or states you think this couple were married in, and the potential range of dates. If it was WA or OR, there are places I might be able to check. Doris On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 6:42 PM, Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Dear Listers! > > I would also like to relaunch this problem of mine. I am just hoping that > newspaper articles can be found in regard to this couple, Nels and Alma > (Dyer) Kins, who had to "escape" from her relatives to marry! > > Thanks again so much for your great assistance in this matter! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > On Mar 6, 2015, at 7:30 PM, Doris Waggoner via wrote: > > > >> Lars, > >> > >> Yes, there would have been truck farmers when you took your trip through > >> the Columbia River Gorge. I had a 63 Plymouth Fury too. Mine was red > and > >> white, and I loved that car! I sold it about 1970, because my > then-husband > >> wanted a VW bug. The Fury had never caused me any trouble at all, so I > was > >> reluctant to give it up. > >> > >> Hope someone will find you a marriage license for Nels and Alma, and > that > >> missing census too. That might help pin down the date. > >> > >> Doris > >> > >> On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Dear Barbara, Thelma, Doris, Kathy and other Listers! > >>> > >>> Thank you all very very much for your messages in regard to my > Norwegian > >>> cowboy Nels Kins! Now I have a better "image:" of what he did and > where > >>> they lived, and if I am not entirely mistaken, there were still "truck > >>> farmers" along the Columbia River when I in my "youth" drove past > there in > >>> 1973 with my '63 Plymouth Fury with pushbutton automatic! > >>> > >>> It was interesting also to see from Nels' obituary which Thelma came up > >>> with, that he had lived in Miami, OK for 25 years! That suggests he > had > >>> left Oregon several years before his wife died, and already then he > was a > >>> man with one leg and blind on one eye! No wonder he spent so many > years at > >>> the nursing home in Miami, OK! > >>> > >>> Still I am "hunting" for a marriage date for Nels and Alma. We must > >>> assume they did get married somewhere, but is it possible to find out? > >>> > >>> Thanks again for your great information so far! You are just a > wonderful > >>> team of researchers, and I love you all! > >>> > >>> Very sincerely yours, > >>> > >>> Lars E. Oyane > >>> > >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >>> > >>> On Mar 6, 2015, at 10:38 AM, Thelma Hartman via wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> Not much Lars but here is a death notice > >>>> > >>>> Joplin Globe 27 January 1970, page 5 > >>>> > >>>> Nels N. Kins > >>>> Miami, Okla - Nels N. Kins, 89, died at 3 am Monday in Miami Baptist > >>>> Hospital where he had been a patient since last Wednesday. Mr Kins was > >>> born > >>>> August 17 1880 in Wisconsin and had been a resident of Miami the last > 25 > >>>> years. He had been a patient in a Miami nursing home 17 years. He was > a > >>>> member of the Lutheran Church. There are no immidiate survivors. > Services > >>>> will be announced by Cooper Funeral Home of Miami. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Nels N. KINS > >>>> born Aug. 17, 1880 in Buffalo Co., WI > >>>> died Jan. 26, 1970 at Miami, Ottawa Co., OK > > Norwaylist Archiveshttp:// > archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Listers! I would also like to relaunch this problem of mine. I am just hoping that newspaper articles can be found in regard to this couple, Nels and Alma (Dyer) Kins, who had to "escape" from her relatives to marry! Thanks again so much for your great assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > On Mar 6, 2015, at 7:30 PM, Doris Waggoner via wrote: > >> Lars, >> >> Yes, there would have been truck farmers when you took your trip through >> the Columbia River Gorge. I had a 63 Plymouth Fury too. Mine was red and >> white, and I loved that car! I sold it about 1970, because my then-husband >> wanted a VW bug. The Fury had never caused me any trouble at all, so I was >> reluctant to give it up. >> >> Hope someone will find you a marriage license for Nels and Alma, and that >> missing census too. That might help pin down the date. >> >> Doris >> >> On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Dear Barbara, Thelma, Doris, Kathy and other Listers! >>> >>> Thank you all very very much for your messages in regard to my Norwegian >>> cowboy Nels Kins! Now I have a better "image:" of what he did and where >>> they lived, and if I am not entirely mistaken, there were still "truck >>> farmers" along the Columbia River when I in my "youth" drove past there in >>> 1973 with my '63 Plymouth Fury with pushbutton automatic! >>> >>> It was interesting also to see from Nels' obituary which Thelma came up >>> with, that he had lived in Miami, OK for 25 years! That suggests he had >>> left Oregon several years before his wife died, and already then he was a >>> man with one leg and blind on one eye! No wonder he spent so many years at >>> the nursing home in Miami, OK! >>> >>> Still I am "hunting" for a marriage date for Nels and Alma. We must >>> assume they did get married somewhere, but is it possible to find out? >>> >>> Thanks again for your great information so far! You are just a wonderful >>> team of researchers, and I love you all! >>> >>> Very sincerely yours, >>> >>> Lars E. Oyane >>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> On Mar 6, 2015, at 10:38 AM, Thelma Hartman via wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Not much Lars but here is a death notice >>>> >>>> Joplin Globe 27 January 1970, page 5 >>>> >>>> Nels N. Kins >>>> Miami, Okla - Nels N. Kins, 89, died at 3 am Monday in Miami Baptist >>>> Hospital where he had been a patient since last Wednesday. Mr Kins was >>> born >>>> August 17 1880 in Wisconsin and had been a resident of Miami the last 25 >>>> years. He had been a patient in a Miami nursing home 17 years. He was a >>>> member of the Lutheran Church. There are no immidiate survivors. Services >>>> will be announced by Cooper Funeral Home of Miami. >>>> >>>> >>>> Nels N. KINS >>>> born Aug. 17, 1880 in Buffalo Co., WI >>>> died Jan. 26, 1970 at Miami, Ottawa Co., OK

Dear Listers, Hoping that Clark doesn't accuse me for hijacking the list again (hehe), I would like to relaunch this inquiry regarding John William Anderson and his marriage to Mathilda Webber, and maybe even get some help to figure out what became of John? I am completely "stuck" on this problem... Maybe newspaper clippings can help? Thanks a million for your wonderful assistance! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Mar 8, 2015, at 5:23 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: > Dear Barbara, Jerrald and other Listers! > > Thank you very much for your latest comments on my Mathilda Anderson problem! > > I guess I expressed myself rather "clumsy" when I suggested that John and Mathilda lived in a "common-law" union. It would be more correct to say that they "lived together", pretending being husband and wife! OR, are we talking about two different Mathilda's? > > To follow Emery Webber's later destiny falls "kind-of" outside my project, but I note with interest that Emery must have remarried very shortly after he divorced Mathilda! > > Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! Hopefully more can be found on John William Anderson and his marriage to Mathilda... I keep twisting my fingers... > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On Mar 8, 2015, at 2:46 PM, Jerrald Lloyd via wrote: > >> >> Emery E Webber in the 1920 United States Federal Census >> >> Name: >> Emery E Webber >> [Emery E Weller] >> >> Age: >> 43 >> >> Birth Year: >> abt 1877 >> >> Birthplace: >> Minnesota >> >> Home in 1920: >> Portland, Multnomah, Oregon >> >> Street: >> 66th Street SE >> >> House Number: >> 5512 >> >> Race: >> White >> >> Gender: >> Male >> >> Relation to Head of House: >> Head >> >> Marital Status: >> Married >> >> Spouse's Name: >> Ethel Webber >> >> Father's Birthplace: >> Holland >> >> Mother's Birthplace: >> United States >> [United States of America] >> >> Able to Speak English: >> Yes >> >> Occupation: >> Chimney Insp >> >> Industry: >> Working Out >> >> Employment Field: >> Wage or Salary >> >> Neighbors: >> View others on page >> >> Household Members: >> >> Emery E Webber 43 >> Ethel Webber 33 >> Lillian E Batchelor 15 >> Ida M Batchelor 12 >> Henry M Batchelor 8 >> Mary W Batchelor 6 >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Lars E. Oyane via" <norway@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 1:38 PM >> To: <norway@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: Re: [NOR] 2nd attempt: Mathilda Ellsworth Anderson >> (1874-1927) -biography 1913-1920 Portland, OR-Seattle, WA - newspaper >> assistance? >> >>> Dear Listers, >>> >>> I have started asking myself what really happened in Portland, OR in those >>> years preceding 1920? >>> >>> The 1917 Portland city directory shows, among others, these entries: >>> >>> * J. Wm. Anderson (Matilda), printer, res. 1917 on 308 Jackson >>> >>> * Emery Webber (Matilda), chimney sweep., res. 690 1/2 E Morrison >>> >>> Can there be a "time lag" in the city directory? Is it possible that >>> Matilda was still "formally" married to Emery Webber until 1919, while in >>> "reality" she was already in 1917 a "common-law" wife of John William >>> Anderson's? >>> >>> In the WW1 draft records from 1918 Emery Webber is clearly alone, since >>> his "nearest relative" was his mother, while John William Anderson's >>> "nearest relative" was his wife Matilda? >>> >>> And yet I am convinced I have the "right" John William Anderson! They >>> moved about 1919 to Seattle, King Co., WA where I find them in the city >>> directories as follows: >>> >>> * 1920: John W. Anderson (Matilda), salesman, res. B3716 Angeline >>> >>> * 1922: John W. Anderson (Matilda), salesman Tent & Awning Co., res. 3716 >>> Angeline >>> >>> * 1924: J Wm Anderson (Matilda), res. 4017 23rd Ave SW >>> >>> * 1925: John W. Anderson (Mathilda), laborer, res. 4017 23rd Ave SW >>> >>> * 1926: Wm Anderson (Matilda), foreman ST&A Co, res. 4015(!) 23rd Ave SW >>> >>> * 1927: John W Anderson (Mathilda), salesman, res. 4017 23rd Ave SW >>> >>> Then John married Lucette, and they are together for one year: >>> >>> * 1928: John W Anderson (Lucette), salesman ST&A Co, res. 713 28th Ave >>> >>> Lucette remained on the same address, while John moved out. Perhaps these >>> entries are for him: >>> >>> * 1929: J W Anderson, res. 2320 41st Ave SW >>> >>> * 1930: J W Anderson, laborer, res. Hazel, WA >>> >>> I have always wondered what became of John William Anderson! Any >>> suggestions? >>> >>> Thanks again for your wonderful assistance identifying John William >>> Anderson and his wife/wives! >>> >>> Very sincerely yours, >>> >>> Lars E. Oyane >>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> On Mar 7, 2015, at 7:41 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Mark and other Listers! >>>> >>>> Mark, I have found something very interesting in the WW1 draft record >>>> system which makes me wonder whether that divorce "debate" from Portland, >>>> OR could be a year or more off? >>>> >>>> Emery Elsworth Webber's WW1 draft record from 1918 shows him as being >>>> unmarried and a ship yard worker, and his closest relative was his mother >>>> Ella Webber! Why would he be accused by Mathilda for NOT beig a ship >>>> yard worker, when he already was one? >>>> >>>> Then I found this in the WW1 draft records: >>>> >>>> John William ANDERSON, born Aug. 4, 1877, a truck driver residing on 492 >>>> 1/2 E. Burnside in Portland, OR with nearest relative MATILDA ANDERSON, >>>> same address. The card is signed Sep. 12, 1918 and has an extra notation >>>> with a new address: 2957 Charles street, Seattle, WA! >>>> >>>> John's age is a perfect "match" with Mathilda's 4th husband, and they did >>>> move to Seattle, WA, so I believe this is the one we want! >>>> >>>> But then, Emery and Mathilda's divorce must have occurred BEFORE Sep of >>>> 1918. >>>> >>>> Next question: Can John and Mathilda's marriage be found in Oregon? >>>> >>>> Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! >>>> >>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>> >>>> Lars E. Oyane >>>> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> >>>> On Mar 7, 2015, at 1:20 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Mark, Barbara, Greg and other listers! >>>>> >>>>> "What a wonderful world - and list..." Thanks a million, Mark, for >>>>> having discovered the "secret" behind Mathilda's 3rd marriage! It is >>>>> just amazing what these newspaper columns may include of information, as >>>>> long as it's possible to search for names in them! Thanks also to >>>>> Barbara and Greg for further comments! If it wasn't for Ellsworth being >>>>> of German background, I would have thought they were Ole and Lena >>>>> arguing in that divorce procedure from Portland...!! >>>>> >>>>> Looking around a little bit, I see that Emery Elsworth Webber on his WW1 >>>>> draft says he was born Oct. 4, 1875, and he was then indeed working in >>>>> the ship yards!!! The 1880 census for Rice Co., MN gives his father's >>>>> name as Conrad Weber, and the family obviously got around! In 1900 they >>>>> were in Grand Forks, ND, but the children born between 1887 and 1896 >>>>> were born in Washington! Then by 1910 Conrad had died, and his wife had >>>>> moved to Portland OR! >>>>> >>>>> Now that the "Ellsworth" part of this problem has been solved, I hope it >>>>> may also be possible to find Mathilda's 4th marriage to John W. >>>>> Anderson? They must have been married in the fall of 1919, between >>>>> Portland, OR and Seattle, WA? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks again, Mark for once more making my day! >>>>> >>>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>>> >>>>> Lars E. Oyane >>>>> >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 7, 2015, at 10:54 AM, Mark Erickson via wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The Oregon Daily Journal (Portland, Oregon) · Sun, Apr 6, 1919 · Page >>>>>> 10 >>>>>> DIVORCE COURT A BUSY PLACE >>>>>> E. Ellsworth Webber, a chimney sweep, alleges in a complaint for >>>>>> divorce >>>>>> that his wife, Matilda, nagged him continually to change his vocation >>>>>> and seek more lucrative employment in the shipyards

Dear Listers, I am facing another problem which I hope that someone can help me solve: Gullick aka George J. Lenvig, son of 1847 emigrant John P. Lenvig from Hafslo parish, Luster Co., Norway, was born at Rushford, Fillmore Co., MN May 22, 1866. In the 1870, 1880 and 1885 censuses he is found residing at home with his father in Rushford, MN, but an online family tree as well as find-a-grave shows that he died at Eugene, Lane Co., OR on Apr. 13, 1903. There is even a short obituary on the find-a-grave site! BUT, can someone please help me with following: * Where was George at the time of the 1900 census? * And what did George do for a living? Maybe newspaper clippings other than the find-a-grave obituary can be found for him? Thank you very much in advance for any assistance you can give me in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane

Hi Greg, I don't know if this was "the thing to do" in such a situation but I have heard of one who operated out of the east coast. He changed his name and disappeared. He had hijacked a load and his family adjusted to the thought that they caught up with him and did him in. About 50 years later he showed up.!! All the best Barbara in MA On 3/14/2015 7:08 PM, Gregory Holter via wrote: > Listers, > > I am trying to help a friend track what happened to Ole Olsen Eines after he returned to North America from Norway in April 1927, arriving in St. John, New Brunswick, Canada. He was born in 1888 and originally emigrated from Kristiansund on 05.05.1909. He had been living in the states of Washington and Alaska, and then returned to Norway for a visit. However, after he returns to North America, we have been unable to find any further traces of him. > > Perhaps one of the listers with Ancestry subscription that includes the newpapers can do a search. Or there may be some other sources we haven't thought to tap. > > We know that he was involved in the illegal alcohol trade in Washington during the Prohibition times, so we suspect it is possible that he may have just "disappeared" at some point. But I would like to see if there are any additional hints to what may have happened to him after April 1927. > > Tusen takk! > Greg Holter > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Barbara and other Listers! Thank you very much, Barbara, for your latest suggestions on this topic! To be honest, I have never thought of contacting the Episcopal Church in this or any other matters. It might indeed be worth tryiong, but I fear it may be a "tough" task! The cemetery as well as the funeral director were not able to help me any further, and I have found out there are at least four Episcopal churches in Little Rock, AR. It may seem like Reginald Moore's widow as well as her children all moved from Little Rock, AR after Reginald died, and then they MAY have taken grandma Ida with them, wherever they went, even though she was 89 years old! My hope was that SOMEONE would run across that name IDA PEASE when searching newspaper indexes? Sooner or later I feel she just has to show up... Thanks again for all new suggestions on this topic! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Mar 10, 2015, at 7:38 PM, Barbara Young via wrote: > Dear Lars, > > That is too bad. > > Her other children were in Little Rock - are they still there? > > Would the Episcopal Church have anything? The funeral director and > cemetery would have the name of the one who handled the arrangements if > she was till in Little Rock when she died. > > All the best > Sincerely, > Barbara > > On 3/10/2015 8:27 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: >> Dear Barbara and other Listers! >> >> Thank you very much, Barbara, for your latest message, >> >> Yes, I believe her last address was a nursing home, but it no longer exists! And who knows where the records went...? >> >> Very sincerely yours, >> >> Lars E. Oyane >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> On Mar 10, 2015, at 7:17 PM, Barbara Young wrote: >> >>> Dear Lars, >>> >>> It appears that she may have moved after her son died. Was she living with him? You might check that last address - it could be a Nursing home or a home for the elderly. They perhaps have more information. >>> >>> All the best, >>> Sincerely. >>> Barbara in MA >>> >>> On 3/10/2015 7:52 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: >>>> Dear Barbara, Jerrald and other listers! >>>> >>>> Thank you very much for your latest comments on this problem from yesterday! I tried a couple of years ago to find an obituary for William Pease but to no avail. I guess I am now hoping that something will show about him in some newspaper database!? >>>> >>>> As far as Ida Irene is concerned, she is (according to ancestry.com) listed in at least three Little Rock, AR city directories: >>>> >>>> Name: Mrs Ida I Pease >>>> Gender: Female >>>> Residence Year: 1949 >>>> Street address: 2310 S Tyler >>>> Residence Place: Little Rock, Arkansas, USA >>>> Publication Title: Little Rock, Arkansas, City Directory, 1949 >>>> >>>> Name: Ida Pease I (wid. William) >>>> Gender: Female >>>> Residence Year: 1951 >>>> Street address: 2310 S. Tyler >>>> Residence Place: Little Rock, Arkansas, USA >>>> >>>> Publication Title: Little Rock, Arkansas, City Directory, 1951 >>>> >>>> Name: Mrs Ida Pease >>>> Gender: Female >>>> Residence Year: 1958 >>>> Street address: 410 Commerce >>>> Residence Place: Little Rock, Arkansas, USA >>>> Publication Title: Little Rock, Arkansas, City Directory, 1958 >>>> >>>> In 1958 she was 89 years old. I should also add the her son in Little Rock, AR was Reginald E. MOORE who died at Little Rock, AR in 1958! His obituary follows: >>>> >>>> "Arkansas Gazette 6-18-1958 Page 13A >>>> >>>> Reginald E. Moore, Auto Broker >>>> >>>> Reginald E. Moore, aged 67, of 6609 E. Wakefield Drive, a retired auto broker, died Monday at a Little Rock hospital. He had lived at Little Rock for the past 16 years. He was an Episcopalian. Survivors include his wife; four sons, William Moore of Los Angeles and James Moore, Harold Moore and Richard Moore, all of Little Rock; a daughter, Mrs. Marion Towler of Los Angeles, his mother, Mrs. Ida Irene Pease of Little Rock and four grandchildren. Funeral arrangements will be announced by Drummond Funeral Home." >>>> >>>> According to the funeral home Reginald was buried in a single grave at the Pincrest Memorial Park cemetery at Alexander, AR. >>>> >>>> So, what happened to Ida?? >>>> >>>> Thanks again for your great assistance trying to solve this mystery! >>>> >>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>> >>>> Lars E. Oyane >>>> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> >>>> On Mar 9, 2015, at 6:08 PM, Jerrald Lloyd via wrote: >>>> >>>>> William W. Pease >>>>> Birth Aug 1857 in Anson, Somerset, Maine, USA Death 1913 in Minnesota >>>>> >>>>> Birth >>>>> 1857 >>>>> Aug >>>>> Anson, Somerset, Maine, USA >>>>> >>>>> Residence >>>>> 1860 >>>>> >>>>> Age: 3 >>>>> Anson, Somerset, Maine, USA >>>>> >>>>> Residence >>>>> 1870 >>>>> >>>>> Age: 13 >>>>> Anson, Somerset, Maine, USA >>>>> >>>>> Residence >>>>> 1885 >>>>> >>>>> 1 May >>>>> >>>>> Age: 27 >>>>> St Paul, Ramsey, Minnesota, USA >>>>> >>>>> Residence >>>>> 1895 >>>>> >>>>> Age: 38 >>>>> St Paul, Ramsey, Minnesota, USA >>>>> >>>>> Marriage to Ida Irene Felton >>>>> 1898 >>>>> 3 May >>>>> >>>>> Age: 40 >>>>> Blue Earth, Faribault, Minnesota, USA >>>>> >>>>> Residence >>>>> 1900 >>>>> >>>>> Age: 43 >>>>> St Paul, Ramsey, Minnesota, USA >>>>> >>>>> Divorce from Ida Irene Felton >>>>> 1905-1910 >>>>> >>>>> Age: 48 >>>>> St Paul, Ramsey, Minnesota, USA >>>>> >>>>> Occupation >>>>> 1910 >>>>> >>>>> Age: 53 >>>>> Tailor >>>>> >>>>> Residence >>>>> 1910 >>>>> >>>>> Age: 53 >>>>> St Paul, Ramsey, Minnesota, USA >>>>> >>>>> Death >>>>> 1913 >>>>> >>>>> Age: 56 >>>>> Minnesota(probable) >>>>> >>>>> Burial >>>>> 1913 >>>>> North Anson, Somerset, Maine, USA >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>> From: "Lars E. Oyane via" <norway@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 9:39 AM >>>>> To: <norway@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Subject: [NOR] Charles F. Moore's wife Ida Irene and her 2nd husband - >>>>> twonew brick walls - maybe solved by newspaper articles? >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Listers, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have no idea just how many hours I have spent researching this very >>>>>> "elusive" family, spreading out to Little Rock, AR as well as to Somerset >>>>>> Co., ME. I have finally put together the following manuscript, with a >>>>>> hope tat someone with expertise on newspaper research can help me find in >>>>>> particular TWO DEATHS and/or OBITUARIES. Let me show you my manuscript: >>>>>> >>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>>> >>>>>> Carl Fredrik aka Charles F. Moore, born in Sogndal Co., Norway Aug. 15, >>>>>> 1865, emigrated with his parents in 1869 and died in Chicago, IL July 5, >>>>>> 1927. He was married at Mankato, MN Nov. 2, 1885 to Ida Irene Gavin >>>>>> Felton, born in Olmsted Co., MN April ?, 1869. She died after 1959, >>>>>> probably at Little Rock, AR. >>>>>> >>>>>> ##### (exact date and place of death for Ida Irene Gavin Felton Moore >>>>>> Pease?) >>>>>> >>>>>> Charles and Ida were divorced about 1893, and Ida remarried in Mankato, MN >>>>>> May 5, 1898 to William Warren Pease, born in Somerset Co., ME Aug. ?, >>>>>> 1857. He supposedly died in Jan. or Feb. of 1913 and was buried in >>>>>> Somerset Co., ME. >>>>>> >>>>>> ##### (exact date and place of death for William Warren Pease?) >>>>>> >>>>>> William Pease was a tailor and he and Ida resided in St. Paul, Ramsey Co., >>>>>> MN, but were also divorced about 1908. Charles Moore was remarried in >>>>>> Chicago, IL Jan. 1, 1905 to Gertrude P. Heiserman, born in Fayette Co., IA >>>>>> July 6, 1874. She died at Oakland, CA July 26, 1951. Charles Moore was a >>>>>> pharmacist and a commercial salesman and lived with Ida at Mankato, Blue >>>>>> Earth Co., MN and at Fergus Falls, Otter tail Co., MN. After their >>>>>> divorce Charles moved to St.Louis, MO, but after he married Gertrude in >>>>>> 1905, he settled down in Chicago, Cook Co., IL. As a widow Gertrude moved >>>>>> in the 1930's to Oakland, Alameda Co., CA. Officially Charles had two >>>>>> sons, both by his 1st wife Ida, but rumors say he only fathered the oldest >>>>>> one of them. >>>>>> >>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>>> >>>>>> Any suggestions as to how the missing details about Ida and William can be >>>>>> found, would be more than appreciated! >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks a million! >>>>>> >>>>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>>>> >>>>>> Lars E. Oyane

I did hear from Rose Fatland Toupal, daughter of Guy and Mary. She is going to try to get more info from old papers, and sent what she remembers. I think it confrims we are on the right track. Thanks! Steve From: Rose Toupal Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 10:48 AM To: snatvig@midstatesd.net Subject: Norway Hey Steve, My computer is giving me trouble so I sent some info via Facebook on my phone . If our son remembers to check the trunk I have some info . I don't remember my Great grandfathers name on the Fatland side. However, Elsie Berhow) Fatlands parents signed The marriage certificate I have. Their names were Martin and Olive Berhow, from Westlake Iowa. My Grandpa W.B. Fatland died when my Dad was 16 years old . They owned a farm just North of Chamberlain, I think there are some wind turbines there now. Sounds like you have this information already. R Toupal PS > I do know how to make Potato Lefse and have taught our son to make it. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Also Dorthea Marie did not go back to Norway... This is her in Find-A-Grave for sure - exact birthdate http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=67284529&ref=acom Cliff Lien Alberta, Canada cjl@interbaun.com Doris wrote: "What I have that is a more firm information comes from a passenger list on Ancestry. In 1875, Hans and Dorothea Fatland and a long string of children emigrated from Norway. I don't remember the port they left from, but they were in Liverpool on their way to America. There Hans died--he was not a young man. Dorothea and the children went on, though eventually she returned to Norway, dying there in 1909"

Interesting, here is the out-migration of the family from Fjelberg 9 Mar 1875... Source information: Hordaland county, Fjelberg Parish register (official) nr. A 8 (1866-1879), Migration records 1875, page 319. Permanent pagelink: www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7004&idx_id=7004&uid=ny&idx_side=-244 Hans Andersen is 51, born 19 Jul 1824... Then Ancestry has the arrival in New York 7 Apr 1875 - The link if you can use it... http://interactive.ancestry.com/7488/NYM237_397-0343/16360853?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dnypl%26so%3d2%26pcat%3d40%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26rank%3d1%26new%3d1%26MSAV%3d2%26gss%3dangs-c%26gsfn_x%3dXO%26gsln%3dfatland%26gsln_x%3dNS_NP_NN%26msady%3d1875%26msady_x%3d1%26cpxt%3d0%26uidh%3dyh2%26cp%3d0&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults Andreas Fatland - Lab 7 Apr 1875 abt 1822 Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland Norwegian Italy Marie Fatland - Wife 7 Apr 1875 abt 1827 Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland Norwegian Italy Hans Fatland - Lab 7 Apr 1875 abt 1857 Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland Norwegian Italy These are all Child... Edw Fatland 7 Apr 1875 abt 1864 Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland Norwegian Italy Jonas Fatland 7 Apr 1875 abt 1865 Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland Norwegian Italy Ole Fatland 7 Apr 1875 abt 1866 Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland Norwegian Italy Ingeborg Fatland 7 Apr 1875 abt 1868 Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland Norwegian Italy Annina Fatland 7 Apr 1875 abt 1871 Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland Norwegian Italy Andreas? Hmmmm.... 1822 not 1824 like Hans but? Cliff Lien Alberta, Canada cjl@interbaun.com -----Original Message----- From: Doris Waggoner via Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 4:11 PM To: Norway List Subject: [NOR] Help locating a different Fatland family in Norway This is almost certainly my family, as the parents' names are correct, and this is the span of years during which their 10 children were born. I have that Hans died in Liverpool in April 1875, and the rest of the family arrived in NY in May 1875.

​I apologize for copying too much last time. I see Doris's Fatland names in the Kvinnherad farm book for that farm but not the other Fatland folk mentioned here previously. This url is for a google map showing where the Fatland farm inKvinnherad is *http://tinyurl.com/fatland-KV <http://tinyurl.com/fatland-KV>* I used the Norwegian OCR program at http://www.i2ocr.com/free-online-norwegian-ocr ​on my image of the farm book page with Doris' relatives. Here is the Norwegian ... can someone translate? Hans is a sibling of my 4th grandmother Metta Olsdatter Ve (Fatland) 2. Hans Olsson, 1740-1830, g m enkje Lisbet Jansdatter, 1742-82, fekk skøytet etter far sin 1762. I 1791 gifte han seg att m Ingeborg Pedersdatter Kjellesvik, 1742-1823. Ingeborg rekna seg av ñnt folk. Morfar og mormor var Kaptein Peter Lillienskiold og Dorthea Bagger. Barn etter Lisbet var: a Anna, 1764-, b Severina, 1765-, c Ola, 1768-, d Erik, 1769-. Barn etter Lisbet var: e Peder Lillienskiold. f Ola, husmann, g m Siri Olsdotter, med sonen Ola, f. 1833. Etter Hans Olsson si tid vart garden delt mel- lom sønene Ola og Peter, med ein halvdel kvar. ------------------------ I think e above is the Peter Hansen Lilieinskiold Fatland that Doris mentions ​On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 12:00 AM, <norway-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> I have the Fatland name back to Peter Hansen Lilieinskiold Fatland, >> 1784-1863, born and died in Norway. Not much help! One of his sons, Hans >> Anderson (Kjeka) Fatland, born in Norway in 1824, married twice. The >> first >> time was to an Oline Abrahamsdattar, in 1842; she died in 1844, after >> giving birth to a daughter Oline. He remarried in Fjelberg >> Parish,,Norway, >> 1849 to Dorothea Marie Pettersdatter Lilieinskiold, b. 1827 in Norway, d. >> 1909 in Norway. Unfortunately, the adjacent commas mean I do NOT know the >> county/flyke the couple were married in. And all this information comes >> from Ancestry family trees. The repetition of the name Lilienskold seems Kitty --------------------------------------------------------------- genetic genealogy blog at http://blog.kittycooper.com/ family history and genealogy at http://kittymunson.com

. . . south east of Bergen mostly east of Stord . . .  Hmmmmm . . . maybe I should have said south of Bergen and somewhat southeast of Stord . . . the islands near Skånevik and Åkra that we have talked about earlier. From: Don Angevine <donangevine@yahoo.com> To: Gregory Holter <waxlerfarms@frontier.com>; Doris Waggoner <waggonerdoris@gmail.com>; Norway List <norway@rootsweb.com>; "norway@rootsweb.com" <norway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [NOR] Help locating a different Fatland family in Norway I will send maps to Doris shortly to help her isolate the gard visually on one of the islands at Fjelberg, Hordaland. It is in the same general area on the ones in the earlier query, south east of Bergen mostly east of Stord.