Pasadena Independent; Tuesday, December 5, 1961; page 20 WALKER—Edith L.Walker of 224 West Verdugo, Burbank passed away Dec. 2,1961. A native of Minnesota, she had been a resident of this vicinity the past two years. Survived by her husband Robert D. Walker and daughter Lori Lee Walker; also four brothers and four sisters at the Red Lake Indian Reservation, Red Lake, Minnesota. Services will be held Thursday, Dec. 7, at 3 p.m. at the Lamb Funeral Home, 415 East Orange Grove Blvd., to be conducted by the Rev. Omar Gjerness. Interment private.

Dear Cliff, Mark and other Listers, Thank you very much, Cliff, for your latest comment on Chuck Wadelin! It is sometimes indeed a "small world"! In the meantime I have also found out Chuck Wadelin was for several years a resident of the US Naval Base on Hawaii, and I wonder, wouldn't that reflect where Chuck was residing at the time of his marriage, Puohala village Kaneohe in Honolulu Co., HI? I have also found out he was born at Pt. Orchard, WA, so, my biography on the Wadelins seems to come fairly well together! Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On May 14, 2015, at 5:25 PM, Cliff M via wrote: > A little more On Charlie/Chuck Wadelin: > > Stationed aboard the Submarine USS Carp (SS338) in 1954, he was a 2nd Class > Electricians Mate (EM2) > SS (Qualified in Submarines......I was aboard USS Blackfin (SS322) at the > same time.....Small world.... > > I seem to remember looking this guy up several years ago?? Or maybe another > Sub sailor? Hummm > > Cliff M > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lars E. Oyane via > Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 2:04 PM > To: norway@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NOR] Charlie Jack Wadelin (1933-1974) - military career? > > Dear Annette, Mark and other Listers! > > Thank you very much for your quick replies to my latest inquiry about US > Navy serviceman Charlie Jack "Chuck" Wadelin, and thanks to you, Mark, for > the extra newspaper clippings. > > With the information you sent me I expect to be able to contact some of the > now-living family members; maybe that way I can obtain more precise facts... > > Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On May 14, 2015, at 2:48 PM, Mark Erickson via wrote: > >> I sent his obit off list along with a couple of other articles. Here’s >> their daughter Mary L. (Wadelin) Higley in Find A Grave. It says her >> father went by the name “Chuck”. >> >> http://tinyurl.com/pqzbt4t >> >> -Mark >> > On 5/14/15, Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> Dear Listers! >> >> I am having some difficulties obtaining a biography of this US Navy >> person. >> Can someone please help me? >> >> Charlie Jack WADELIN >> born Jan. 31, 1933 in ........, WA >> parents Fred J. Wadelin and Alice Endsley (married Jan. 10, 1931 at >> Shelton, >> WA) >> died Oct. 29, 1974 in Tucson, AZ >> >> Name: Charlie Wadelin >> Gender: Male >> Birth Date: 31 Jan 1933 >> Death Date: 29 Oct 1974 >> Cause of Death: Natural >> SSN: 575285754 >> Branch 1: NAVY >> Enlistment Date 1: 14 Aug 1950 >> Release Date 1: 16 Jun 1969 >> >> He was apparently a US Navy career person, but is it possible to find >> information like: >> >> * What was his title? >> >> * Where did he reside? >> >> * Where (in WA) was he born? >> >> Thank you very much in advance for your great assistance in this matter! >> >> Very sincerely yours, >> >> Lars E. Oyane >> > Norwaylist > Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Listers! I have this evening finally managed to obtain contact with a lady whose family background is very "diffuse". Her mother: Edith L. Walker, whose mother's maiden name was Luchier, born in Michigan (or Minnesota? - very often the state references in the California death index of MI and MN have been "mixed"!) Apr. 18, 1927, was killed in a car accident in Los Angeles, CA Dec. 2, 1961. Her husband, Robert Donald, aka Donald Walker (born in Sioux Falls, SD Jan. 22, 1924, raised in Eau Claire, WI, died in Los Angeles, CA Jan. 20 1977) brought the little girl to his sister in San Diego, CA to be raised with her. The daughter, the lady I just talked to, was born in St. Paul, MN in August of 1959, but was eventually adopted by her aunt, and her birth certificate does not show in the MN birth index! She tells me that her father Donald Walker was a military (officer?) residing at St. Paul, MN at the time she was born, but he was "kicked out" due to alcoholism, and then the family shortly thereafter moved to Los Angeles, CA! I have two questions: * Is it possible to find Robert Donald aka Donald Walker in any military records from Minnesota (or elsewhere)? * Is it at all possible to identify the wife, Edith L., whose mother's maiden name was Luchier? Any assistance in this matter would be greatly appreciated, both by their daughter as well as by myself! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane

Here is the probate record of Otto Henrik von Printzen in Christiania 1761-1762, from Oslo/ Christiania skifterett 1757-1762. Good eyesight needed. http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/25403/379/ And he is mentioned in 1731 as a lieutenant at Basmo fort at the border between Akershus and Østfold, in "Basmo Festning" by Tron Daldorff 1931. Regards, Petter -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: norway-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:norway-bounces@rootsweb.com] På vegne av p.maguire via Sendt: 14. mai 2015 00:22 Til: norway@rootsweb.com Emne: [NOR] help needed Dear Listers, I am trying to find birth records for my family who were born in Norway. Frederich Wilhelm von Printzen, born in Norway in 1697, the eldest son of Major Hjob Wilhelm von Printzen and his wife Birgitta Chalanna. This information comes from Naval Officerers since 1660. Commander Captain Friderich Wilhelm von Printzen married Susanna Elisabeth Clavel de Letang at Holmens Kirk in Denmark on 22 October 1734 - he was aged 37 and she aged 19. According to his naval records, it shows on 7 January 1740 Friderich was recruiting officer in Egersund and in 1743 he was on the naval ship Nordstiernen in Esk. On 10 June 1747 he was Commander Captain. He died on 25 January 1748 in Kobenhavn. Otto Henrik von Printzen, son of Major Hjob Wilhelm von Printzen and I think a Birgitte Chalanna. According to Ovenstad's Militaerbiographier den Norske Hoers Officerer Fra 18 Januar 1628-17 Mai 1814, pp 267-268, it says he was born between 1701/05 in Kristiansand Norway. Entered military service ca 1719 and served first with the naval cadets for three years and later with Romlings infantry regiment. He retired on 9 December 1760 and died in 1761. He was buried on 20 November 1761 in Kristiana (vor Freisers Kirke). He married Tugendreich Sophie Zeplin (daughter of Jaegermaester Joachim Christoffer von Zeplin and his third wife Ida von Rheder. Birgitte Cathrine von Printzen - no record at all for her birth but she was the youngest of the family. She married a Captain Peter Helmich who came from Hamburg. He and Birgitte lived in Fredrikstad, Ostfold, Norway where Peter died on 21 February 1738. Birgitte then moved to Kobenhavn and became Lady in Waiting to Queen Louise - her father, Major Hjob Wilhelm von Printzen lived with her until his death in 1740. Any help at all will be most appreciated. Melva Printzen-Maguire --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

He died in an avalanche - a snow slide. The remark in the right hand column says that he was reported to have been out hunting. Hope this helps you! Ingrid -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: norway-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:norway-bounces@rootsweb.com] På vegne av EDWARD A SCRIVEN via Sendt: 14. mai 2015 15:33 Til: norway@rootsweb.com Emne: [NOR] Death information translation Greetings, everyone. I have an unfortunate death record that needs help. This is from Sortland in Nordland, and it is the very 1st entry on the page for Jens Albert Johansen. He was married on 24 July 1920 and died in some kind of an accident just 6 months later on 30 January 1921. Could some kind person please give me the Norwegian words written in columns 9 and 12, and then the translation? I thank you in advance. Source information: Nordland county, Sortland in Sortland, Parish register (official) nr. 895A09 (1915-1925), Death and burial records 1921, page 182. Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=39703&idx_id=39703&uid=ny& idx_side=-175Permanent imagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb10041104072178.jpg Edward A. Scriven Layton, Utah Always be Happy!! Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Annette, Mark and other Listers! Thank you very much for your quick replies to my latest inquiry about US Navy serviceman Charlie Jack "Chuck" Wadelin, and thanks to you, Mark, for the extra newspaper clippings. With the information you sent me I expect to be able to contact some of the now-living family members; maybe that way I can obtain more precise facts... Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On May 14, 2015, at 2:48 PM, Mark Erickson via wrote: > I sent his obit off list along with a couple of other articles. Here’s their daughter Mary L. (Wadelin) Higley in Find A Grave. It says her father went by the name “Chuck”. > > http://tinyurl.com/pqzbt4t > > -Mark > On 5/14/15, Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Dear Listers! > > I am having some difficulties obtaining a biography of this US Navy person. > Can someone please help me? > > Charlie Jack WADELIN > born Jan. 31, 1933 in ........, WA > parents Fred J. Wadelin and Alice Endsley (married Jan. 10, 1931 at Shelton, > WA) > died Oct. 29, 1974 in Tucson, AZ > > Name: Charlie Wadelin > Gender: Male > Birth Date: 31 Jan 1933 > Death Date: 29 Oct 1974 > Cause of Death: Natural > SSN: 575285754 > Branch 1: NAVY > Enlistment Date 1: 14 Aug 1950 > Release Date 1: 16 Jun 1969 > > He was apparently a US Navy career person, but is it possible to find > information like: > > * What was his title? > > * Where did he reside? > > * Where (in WA) was he born? > > Thank you very much in advance for your great assistance in this matter! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane >

A little more On Charlie/Chuck Wadelin: Stationed aboard the Submarine USS Carp (SS338) in 1954, he was a 2nd Class Electricians Mate (EM2) SS (Qualified in Submarines......I was aboard USS Blackfin (SS322) at the same time.....Small world.... I seem to remember looking this guy up several years ago?? Or maybe another Sub sailor? Hummm Cliff M -----Original Message----- From: Lars E. Oyane via Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 2:04 PM To: norway@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NOR] Charlie Jack Wadelin (1933-1974) - military career? Dear Annette, Mark and other Listers! Thank you very much for your quick replies to my latest inquiry about US Navy serviceman Charlie Jack "Chuck" Wadelin, and thanks to you, Mark, for the extra newspaper clippings. With the information you sent me I expect to be able to contact some of the now-living family members; maybe that way I can obtain more precise facts... Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On May 14, 2015, at 2:48 PM, Mark Erickson via wrote: > I sent his obit off list along with a couple of other articles. Here’s > their daughter Mary L. (Wadelin) Higley in Find A Grave. It says her > father went by the name “Chuck”. > > http://tinyurl.com/pqzbt4t > > -Mark > On 5/14/15, Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Dear Listers! > > I am having some difficulties obtaining a biography of this US Navy > person. > Can someone please help me? > > Charlie Jack WADELIN > born Jan. 31, 1933 in ........, WA > parents Fred J. Wadelin and Alice Endsley (married Jan. 10, 1931 at > Shelton, > WA) > died Oct. 29, 1974 in Tucson, AZ > > Name: Charlie Wadelin > Gender: Male > Birth Date: 31 Jan 1933 > Death Date: 29 Oct 1974 > Cause of Death: Natural > SSN: 575285754 > Branch 1: NAVY > Enlistment Date 1: 14 Aug 1950 > Release Date 1: 16 Jun 1969 > > He was apparently a US Navy career person, but is it possible to find > information like: > > * What was his title? > > * Where did he reside? > > * Where (in WA) was he born? > > Thank you very much in advance for your great assistance in this matter! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It is under genealogiske samling - diverse - finn kilde: http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/finn_kilde?s=&fra=&til=&kt%5B%5D=GSAM Jostein A ----- Original Message ----- From: "nukilik via" <norway@rootsweb.com> To: "norwaylist" <norway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 2:58 PM Subject: [NOR] Lassens samlinger (was help needed) Hello Jostein, Where at the Digital archives can I find “Lassens samlinger”? I believe this is letter –P – all the time. I like to see letter –E- and –G-. Thank you very much Reina

Hello Jostein, Where at the Digital archives can I find “Lassens samlinger”? I believe this is letter –P – all the time. I like to see letter –E- and –G-. Thank you very much Reina Jostein wrote: I wonder if you have this forum at the digital-archive: http://forum.arkivverket.no/topic/176686-hjob-wilhelm-von-printzen-o1670-tyskland/?hl=printzen There are not much other info about Printzen-family that is online, this is from "Lassens samlinger": Kildeinformasjon: Lassens samlinger, Personalhistoriske samlinger, Personalhistorie, ordnet etter slektsnavn, bind 33 (RA/PA-0051/F/Fa), 0-, oppb: Riksarkivet. Merknader: Pla-Qvae Permanent sidelenke: http://arkivverket.no/URN:db_read/db/40156/117/ Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-sa20110412630117.jpg Jostein A

I sent his obit off list along with a couple of other articles. Here’s their daughter Mary L. (Wadelin) Higley in Find A Grave. It says her father went by the name “Chuck”. http://tinyurl.com/pqzbt4t -Mark

His name is on this list of "the men who sailed Carp from 1950 to 1954" in 1954. http://home.comcast.net/~emtyler/50crew.html Other than his marriage in California, this is all I found. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-29947-23028-2?cc=1804002 On 5/14/15, Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Dear Listers! > > I am having some difficulties obtaining a biography of this US Navy person. > Can someone please help me? > > Charlie Jack WADELIN > born Jan. 31, 1933 in ........, WA > parents Fred J. Wadelin and Alice Endsley (married Jan. 10, 1931 at Shelton, > WA) > died Oct. 29, 1974 in Tucson, AZ > > Name: Charlie Wadelin > Gender: Male > Birth Date: 31 Jan 1933 > Death Date: 29 Oct 1974 > Cause of Death: Natural > SSN: 575285754 > Branch 1: NAVY > Enlistment Date 1: 14 Aug 1950 > Release Date 1: 16 Jun 1969 > > He was apparently a US Navy career person, but is it possible to find > information like: > > * What was his title? > > * Where did he reside? > > * Where (in WA) was he born? > > Thank you very much in advance for your great assistance in this matter! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > > > > Norwaylist > Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Listers! I am having some difficulties obtaining a biography of this US Navy person. Can someone please help me? Charlie Jack WADELIN born Jan. 31, 1933 in ........, WA parents Fred J. Wadelin and Alice Endsley (married Jan. 10, 1931 at Shelton, WA) died Oct. 29, 1974 in Tucson, AZ Name: Charlie Wadelin Gender: Male Birth Date: 31 Jan 1933 Death Date: 29 Oct 1974 Cause of Death: Natural SSN: 575285754 Branch 1: NAVY Enlistment Date 1: 14 Aug 1950 Release Date 1: 16 Jun 1969 He was apparently a US Navy career person, but is it possible to find information like: * What was his title? * Where did he reside? * Where (in WA) was he born? Thank you very much in advance for your great assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane

I wonder if you have this forum at the digital-archive: http://forum.arkivverket.no/topic/176686-hjob-wilhelm-von-printzen-o1670-tyskland/?hl=printzen There are not much other info about Printzen-family that is online, this is from "Lassens samlinger": Kildeinformasjon: Lassens samlinger, Personalhistoriske samlinger, Personalhistorie, ordnet etter slektsnavn, bind 33 (RA/PA-0051/F/Fa), 0-, oppb: Riksarkivet. Merknader: Pla-Qvae Permanent sidelenke: http://arkivverket.no/URN:db_read/db/40156/117/ Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-sa20110412630117.jpg Jostein A ----- Original Message ----- From: "p.maguire via" <norway@rootsweb.com> To: <norway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 12:21 AM Subject: [NOR] help needed > Dear Listers, > > I am trying to find birth records for my family who were born in Norway. > > Frederich Wilhelm von Printzen, born in Norway in 1697, the eldest son > of Major Hjob Wilhelm von Printzen and his wife Birgitta Chalanna. > This information comes from Naval Officerers since 1660. Commander > Captain Friderich Wilhelm von Printzen married Susanna Elisabeth Clavel > de Letang at Holmens Kirk in Denmark on 22 October 1734 - he was aged 37 > and she aged 19. According to his naval records, it shows on 7 > January 1740 Friderich was recruiting officer in Egersund and in 1743 he > was on the naval ship Nordstiernen in Esk. On 10 June 1747 he was > Commander Captain. He died on 25 January 1748 in Kobenhavn. > > Otto Henrik von Printzen, son of Major Hjob Wilhelm von Printzen and I > think a Birgitte Chalanna. According to Ovenstad's > Militaerbiographier den Norske Hoers Officerer Fra 18 Januar 1628-17 Mai > 1814, pp 267-268, it says he was born between 1701/05 in Kristiansand > Norway. Entered military service ca 1719 and served first with the > naval cadets for three years and later with Romlings infantry regiment. > He retired on 9 December 1760 and died in 1761. He was buried on 20 > November 1761 in Kristiana (vor Freisers Kirke). He married > Tugendreich Sophie Zeplin (daughter of Jaegermaester Joachim Christoffer > von Zeplin and his third wife Ida von Rheder. > > Birgitte Cathrine von Printzen - no record at all for her birth but she > was the youngest of the family. She married a Captain Peter Helmich > who came from Hamburg. He and Birgitte lived in Fredrikstad, Ostfold, > Norway where Peter died on 21 February 1738. Birgitte then moved to > Kobenhavn and became Lady in Waiting to Queen Louise - her father, Major > Hjob Wilhelm von Printzen lived with her until his death in 1740. > > Any help at all will be most appreciated. Melva Printzen-Maguire

Greetings, everyone. I have an unfortunate death record that needs help. This is from Sortland in Nordland, and it is the very 1st entry on the page for Jens Albert Johansen. He was married on 24 July 1920 and died in some kind of an accident just 6 months later on 30 January 1921. Could some kind person please give me the Norwegian words written in columns 9 and 12, and then the translation? I thank you in advance. Source information: Nordland county, Sortland in Sortland, Parish register (official) nr. 895A09 (1915-1925), Death and burial records 1921, page 182. Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=39703&idx_id=39703&uid=ny&idx_side=-175Permanent imagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb10041104072178.jpg Edward A. Scriven Layton, Utah Always be Happy!!

Lars, I believe from looking at the other possibilities that showed up during my search on FamilySearch.org that the man buried in Nelson County is a different man, with a different birth date, and NOT the man you are seeking. Greg Holter From: Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> To: norway@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 1:49 PM Subject: [NOR] Ludvig Hillestad - Helestad (1885-1937)? - disappeared in North Dakota? Dear Listers! For years I have tried to figure out what became of this gentleman: Ludvig Christopherson Hillestad born Aug. 10, 1884 in Hafslo parish, Luster Co., Norway emigrated in 1904 as a machinist to Minnesota was in 1918 (WW1 draft) a farm laborer at Mandan, Morton Co., ND When Ludvig's father died in Bergen, Norway in 1921, it was said they had not heard from Ludvig since 1915, and noone knew whether he was still alive! In the East Sarnia cemetery in Nelson Co., ND is buried this man: Ludvig HELESTAD  1885-1937 However, I don't find thus person in the ND Death Index - maybe due to a misspelling? I strongly suspect this be "our" Ludvig, but can someone please help me find additional details about him? * An exact date and place of his death? * An obituary? * Maybe other newspaper clippings? * Where was he in the 1910, 1920 and 1930 censuses? Thanks a million in advance for your great assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane

Lars, A search for Ludvig Hillestad on FamilySearch.org gives his WWI draft registration, made in Mandan, North Dakota, in September 1918.  It has the correct birth date.  It indicates that he has lost an eye.  If you have trouble accessing this, let me know and I will forward a copy of the digitized image. Greg Holter From: Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> To: norway@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 1:49 PM Subject: [NOR] Ludvig Hillestad - Helestad (1885-1937)? - disappeared in North Dakota? Dear Listers! For years I have tried to figure out what became of this gentleman: Ludvig Christopherson Hillestad born Aug. 10, 1884 in Hafslo parish, Luster Co., Norway emigrated in 1904 as a machinist to Minnesota was in 1918 (WW1 draft) a farm laborer at Mandan, Morton Co., ND When Ludvig's father died in Bergen, Norway in 1921, it was said they had not heard from Ludvig since 1915, and noone knew whether he was still alive! In the East Sarnia cemetery in Nelson Co., ND is buried this man: Ludvig HELESTAD  1885-1937 However, I don't find thus person in the ND Death Index - maybe due to a misspelling? I strongly suspect this be "our" Ludvig, but can someone please help me find additional details about him? * An exact date and place of his death? * An obituary? * Maybe other newspaper clippings? * Where was he in the 1910, 1920 and 1930 censuses? Thanks a million in advance for your great assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane

Dear Listers, I am trying to find birth records for my family who were born in Norway. Frederich Wilhelm von Printzen, born in Norway in 1697, the eldest son of Major Hjob Wilhelm von Printzen and his wife Birgitta Chalanna. This information comes from Naval Officerers since 1660. Commander Captain Friderich Wilhelm von Printzen married Susanna Elisabeth Clavel de Letang at Holmens Kirk in Denmark on 22 October 1734 - he was aged 37 and she aged 19. According to his naval records, it shows on 7 January 1740 Friderich was recruiting officer in Egersund and in 1743 he was on the naval ship Nordstiernen in Esk. On 10 June 1747 he was Commander Captain. He died on 25 January 1748 in Kobenhavn. Otto Henrik von Printzen, son of Major Hjob Wilhelm von Printzen and I think a Birgitte Chalanna. According to Ovenstad's Militaerbiographier den Norske Hoers Officerer Fra 18 Januar 1628-17 Mai 1814, pp 267-268, it says he was born between 1701/05 in Kristiansand Norway. Entered military service ca 1719 and served first with the naval cadets for three years and later with Romlings infantry regiment. He retired on 9 December 1760 and died in 1761. He was buried on 20 November 1761 in Kristiana (vor Freisers Kirke). He married Tugendreich Sophie Zeplin (daughter of Jaegermaester Joachim Christoffer von Zeplin and his third wife Ida von Rheder. Birgitte Cathrine von Printzen - no record at all for her birth but she was the youngest of the family. She married a Captain Peter Helmich who came from Hamburg. He and Birgitte lived in Fredrikstad, Ostfold, Norway where Peter died on 21 February 1738. Birgitte then moved to Kobenhavn and became Lady in Waiting to Queen Louise - her father, Major Hjob Wilhelm von Printzen lived with her until his death in 1740. Any help at all will be most appreciated. Melva Printzen-Maguire --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Dear Greg and other Listers! Thank you very much, Greg, for your quick reply to my latest inquiry about Ludvig Hillestad - Helestad(?). There is no need to send me the WW1 draft record since I can also access this from my side (FamilySearch and ancestry.com). I can see why you question whether the Ludvig Helestad I found in Nelson Co., ND can be the "right" Ludvig! There was also a Ludvig Helseth who in 1918 was a resident of Petersburg in Nelson Co., ND, and he was born near Aalesund, Norway Dec. 5, 1885! Hmmm, I wonder... But then I see on ancestry.com a family tree of one Louis Nicoli Helseth, born in Norway Dec. 4, 1884, who died in Anoka, MN July 8, 1967! He does look suspiciously like Ludvig Helseth, doesn't he? His SS record even shows he was born Dec. 4, 1885! SO, I still believe Ludvig Helestad in the East Sarnia cemetery in Nelson Co., ND MAY be "my" Ludvig...? Thanks again for any suggestions and assistance to find the answers to my questions!! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On May 13, 2015, at 6:43 PM, Gregory Holter via wrote: > Lars, > > I believe from looking at the other possibilities that showed up during my search on FamilySearch.org that the man buried in Nelson County is a different man, with a different birth date, and NOT the man you are seeking. > > Greg Holter > > From: Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> > To: norway@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 1:49 PM > Subject: [NOR] Ludvig Hillestad - Helestad (1885-1937)? - disappeared in North Dakota? > > Dear Listers! > > For years I have tried to figure out what became of this gentleman: > > Ludvig Christopherson Hillestad > born Aug. 10, 1884 in Hafslo parish, Luster Co., Norway > emigrated in 1904 as a machinist to Minnesota > was in 1918 (WW1 draft) a farm laborer at Mandan, Morton Co., ND > > When Ludvig's father died in Bergen, Norway in 1921, it was said they had not heard from Ludvig since 1915, and noone knew whether he was still alive! > > In the East Sarnia cemetery in Nelson Co., ND is buried this man: > > Ludvig HELESTAD 1885-1937 > > However, I don't find thus person in the ND Death Index - maybe due to a misspelling? > > I strongly suspect this be "our" Ludvig, but can someone please help me find additional details about him? > > * An exact date and place of his death? > > * An obituary? > > * Maybe other newspaper clippings? > > * Where was he in the 1910, 1920 and 1930 censuses? > > Thanks a million in advance for your great assistance in this matter! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane

Hello Cliff and all listers,   More questions about Kari Rolandsdatter. She died so young - leaving 12 year old Lars and maybe another child out of wedlock - any idea who this is?   Where did she come from and who are her parents? I'm hoping someone can help me with this This is my only brick wall in Berge's ancestry.   Thanks everyone, Marilyn   ----- Original Message ----- From: "maeallen via" <norway@rootsweb.com> To: "Cliff Lien" <cjl@interbaun.com>, norway@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, May 8, 2015 9:13:47 AM Subject: Re: [NOR] Berge Olson Linde Family Lars had two children the same year to two mothers and then later had two more, Marthe 1837 and Sigrid 1840 to Britha Nielsdatter.   Was there anything more about Kari's parents?   Again, taking time to look this up is so appreciated. Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff Lien via" <norway@rootsweb.com> To: norway@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, May 8, 2015 8:36:07 AM Subject: Re: [NOR] Berge Olson Linde Family Here's where we get the birth year of 1778 for Kari Rolandsdatter... Kari Rolandd Lindehagen died 7 Jan 1822 and was buried 12 Jan 1822 in Vik She was 44 yrs old but since it was early January we should probably be thinking born 1777 not 1778. Entry 6 for 1822... Kildeinformasjon: Sogn og Fjordane fylke, Vik, Ministerialbok nr. A 6 (1821-1831), Døde og begravede 1822, side 337-338. Permanent sidelenke: www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=11757&idx_id=11757&uid=ny&idx_side=-112 Cliff Lien Alberta, Canada cjl@interbaun.com -----Original Message----- From: Cliff Lien via Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 7:21 AM To: maeallen@comcast.net ; Norway List Subject: Re: [NOR] Berge Olson Linde Family OK, working backwards... Here is the christening record of Ole Larsen Linde in Vik I Sogn parish, Sogn og Fjordane Top half of the right page. 24 Jan 1810 Unwed mother Kari Rolandsdatter - I think her second child out of wedlock? Father Lars Larsen Skidtvigen - A note says "Faderen Lars Larsen Skidtvigen tiener hos Elling Qvame" Note that Lars Larsen Skidtvigen is also the father of Maritha, daughter of Synneva Stephensdatter The very next entry after Ole on the 26th of January. Kildeinformasjon: Sogn og Fjordane fylke, Vik, Ministerialbok nr. A 5 (1787-1820), Fødte og døpte 1810, side 266-267. Permanent sidelenke: www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=11756&idx_id=11756&uid=ny&idx_side=-123 Lars and Kari married later that year 22 July 1810 and both are from the farm Qvame at the time. Kildeinformasjon: Sogn og Fjordane fylke, Vik, Ministerialbok nr. A 5 (1787-1820), Ekteviede 1810-1812, side 312-313. Permanent sidelenke: www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=11756&idx_id=11756&uid=ny&idx_side=-146 Cliff Lien Alberta, Canada cjl@interbaun.com From: maeallen@comcast.net Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 5:45 AM To: Cliff Lien ; norway@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NOR] Berge Olson Linde Family I found the information I have on Berge's grandparents at the archives in Bergen. In my notes I wrote that Lars Larson and Kari were not married. I thought I would make one last try at filling in Berg"s ancestry. I used to be able to read the Digitalarkivet easily, but not anymore. I have Lars dying at Linde in 1854 so you would think Kari at maybe age 76 would be nearby. Quite a puzzle. Thanks for trying to figure this out. Marilyn From: "Cliff Lien via" <norway@rootsweb.com> To: "nukilik" <nukilik@xs4all.nl>, norway@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2015 6:42:09 PM Subject: Re: [NOR] Berge Olson Linde Family Tricky one I think... Reina, I think the 4th child of the Roland Olsen you found is Sigri not Kari. See here at Urnæss in Hafsloe in the 1801 census. Looks like all the children and Margrethe Olsd are here with maybe a wrong age transcription for Elisabet? So maybe the wrong Roland? Marilyn, Where did you come up with the 1778 birth year for Kari Rolandsdatter? I have not found a good candidate in the 1801 census. Cliff Lien Alberta, Canada cjl@interbaun.com -----Original Message----- From: nukilik via Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 1:29 PM To: maeallen ; norway@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NOR] Berge Olson Linde Family Here is a probaterecord out of 1780 of Roland Olsen. He was married to Margrethe Olsdr (as far as I read the protocol in the right way) and they got the children Ole Rolandsen age 14, Elisabeth Rolandsdr age 18, Marthe Rolandsdr age 10, Kari Rolandsdr age 7 and Ingeris Rolandsdr age 4, page 613b. Start of the protocol at the previous page 613a <http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/24141/288/?size=full&mode=0> This is the only Roland Olsen with a probate record. I am not sure if this can be your Kari Rolandsdr. Reina -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: maeallen via Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 8:53 PM To: Cliff Lien ; norway@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NOR] Berge Olson Linde Family Yes, this is all the right family and it is Berges grandmother Kari Rolandsdatter that I can't find anything about. I went to the archives in Bergen and the only prospect I could find was Roland Olson and Ragnild Botolfsdatter and this might be way off. So any help to solve this will greatly appreciated. Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff Lien via" <norway@rootsweb.com> To: norway@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2015 9:31:43 AM Subject: Re: [NOR] Berge Olson Linde Family Oh, it's the parents of Kari Rolandsdatter b. abt 1778 we are seeking... Lars Larsen Qvame married Kari Rolandd. Qvame 7 July 1810 in Vik I Sogn Cliff Lien Alberta, Canada cjl@interbaun.com -----Original Message----- From: Cliff Lien via Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 7:46 AM To: nukilik ; norway@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NOR] Berge Olson Linde Family So my best bet for Birger's mother using the S og F Fylksarkivet databases... Britha Thord. born in Vik 5 Oct 1813 Father Thor Birges. Tenefossen Mother Ingebiør Ellingd. Just because the father is Birgesen Here is the image at lower right... Kildeinformasjon: Sogn og Fjordane fylke, Vik, Ministerialbo nr. A 5 (1787-1820), Fødte og døpte 1813, side 408-409. Permanent sidelenke: www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=11756&idx_id=11756&uid=ny&idx_side=-193 Cliff Lien Alberta, Canada cjl@interbaun.com Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Listers! For years I have tried to figure out what became of this gentleman: Ludvig Christopherson Hillestad born Aug. 10, 1884 in Hafslo parish, Luster Co., Norway emigrated in 1904 as a machinist to Minnesota was in 1918 (WW1 draft) a farm laborer at Mandan, Morton Co., ND When Ludvig's father died in Bergen, Norway in 1921, it was said they had not heard from Ludvig since 1915, and noone knew whether he was still alive! In the East Sarnia cemetery in Nelson Co., ND is buried this man: Ludvig HELESTAD 1885-1937 However, I don't find thus person in the ND Death Index - maybe due to a misspelling? I strongly suspect this be "our" Ludvig, but can someone please help me find additional details about him? * An exact date and place of his death? * An obituary? * Maybe other newspaper clippings? * Where was he in the 1910, 1920 and 1930 censuses? Thanks a million in advance for your great assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane