Lars, After searching for a time for a Helen Mae Bartley born in February 1919 in the US censuses, I was drawing a blank.  Most of the possibilities were born back in the eastern United States, which didn't really make sense to me.  But then I noticed that in the 1940 census in the Sulphur Creek Election District in Lewis County, Washington, there is a Mae Bartley born 1919 married to a Bill Bartley.  It says that she was born in Idaho.  So maybe she was married previously to her marriage with Chester Melheim. Then  I went searching for Bill Bartley and came up with a marriage record on 1 May 1937 in Pacific County, Washington, between a William Reve Bartley and a Helen May Harrison.  The marriage record does not include birth dates or locations. So I wonder if this might be your Helen Mae Bartley.  All of these events occurred in western Washington.  But this is really circumstantial evidence, without some additional information. I checked and there are several Helen Bartleys in the 1930 census born in Idaho, but that census does not give birth month and year so I don't know how to pick her out from the possibilities easily. Greg Holter From: Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> To: norway@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 4:50 PM Subject: [NOR] 2nd attempt: Obituary assistance Brinnon, WA - Newspaper assistance Stevenson, WA, please? Dear Listers, This inquiry was posted about three months ago together with two inquiries for obituaries from Puyallup, WA.  Cliff helped me with the ones from Puyallup, WA, but this one from Brinnon, WA is still unsolved: Helen Mae MELHEIM, nee Bartley born Feb. 10, 1919  - unknown where! died Feb. 19, 1984  - her cremains were buried in the Brinnon cemetery in Jefferson Co., WA She married Chester Earl Melheim (1925-2007) at Stevenson, WA Sep. 20, 1954, but they divorced within 10 years! I have not been able to find any funeral homes in Brinnon, WA, and my contact with nearby funeral homes in Bremerton, WA and other cities in Kitsap Co., WA has been to no avail. What I try to find out, is primarily: * The exact place of Helen's BIRTH? * The exact place of Helen's DEATH? * Year of their DIVORCE? This information would presumably be included in an OBITUARY for her, if one can be found?  Or maybe their DIVORCE is referred in local newspapers? Thanks a million in advance for your great assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane

California death index has a death date different, but close. They show 18 Apr 1947. Per familysearch.org. On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Carol Whitley Larson via < norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I have tracked Olena (Lena or Oline) Christopherson (or Thorson) born 25 > Feb 1863 in York, Fillmore county Minnesota and her husband > George Swenson (born 19 Nov 1857 in Norway) from their marriage 09 Jan > 1881, Canfield, Fillmore county Minnesota to their years in St. Thomas, > Pembina county, North Dakota to their final move before 1920 to Los > Angeles. George dies in Los Angeles 21 of April 1947 and Lena dies the 7 > Sep 1947, also in Los Angeles. We need help in finding where they are > buried. > > > Does anyone on the list have any suggestions on finding an obituary for > either of them. I have tried Find a Grave but there are so many dead > people in Los Angeles that it is hard to find where they are buried? > > Thanks for any ideas on where they could be! > > Carol in Kentucky > Norwaylist Archiveshttp:// > archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- *John K Peterson*Summer Residence Deer Run Estates Lake Delton, Wisconsin

I have tracked Olena (Lena or Oline) Christopherson (or Thorson) born 25 Feb 1863 in York, Fillmore county Minnesota and her husband George Swenson (born 19 Nov 1857 in Norway) from their marriage 09 Jan 1881, Canfield, Fillmore county Minnesota to their years in St. Thomas, Pembina county, North Dakota to their final move before 1920 to Los Angeles. George dies in Los Angeles 21 of April 1947 and Lena dies the 7 Sep 1947, also in Los Angeles. We need help in finding where they are buried. Does anyone on the list have any suggestions on finding an obituary for either of them. I have tried Find a Grave but there are so many dead people in Los Angeles that it is hard to find where they are buried? Thanks for any ideas on where they could be! Carol in Kentucky

Save ▼ ⎙Print Share▼ Hellen Bartley in the 1920 United States Federal Census Record Image View ⌹View blank form ✎View/Add alternate info !Report issue Barbara_Armstrong_Samuelson Name: Hellen Bartley [Helen Mae Bartley] Age: 0 [2] Birth Year: abt 1920 [abt 1918] Birthplace: Virginia Home in 1920: Yokum Station, Lee, Virginia Race: White Gender: Female Relation to Head of House: Daughter (Child) Marital Status: Single Father's name: Rhea Bartley Father's Birthplace: Virginia Mother's name: Virgie Bartley Mother's Birthplace: Virginia Attended School: No Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Rhea Bartley 22 Virgie Bartley 22 Connor J Bartley 4 Ruth Bartley 2 Hellen Bartley 0 [2] Save ▼ Cancel -----Original Message----- From: Lars E. Oyane via Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 6:50 PM To: norway@rootsweb.com Subject: [NOR] 2nd attempt: Obituary assistance Brinnon,WA - Newspaper assistance Stevenson, WA, please? Dear Listers, This inquiry was posted about three months ago together with two inquiries for obituaries from Puyallup, WA. Cliff helped me with the ones from Puyallup, WA, but this one from Brinnon, WA is still unsolved: Helen Mae MELHEIM, nee Bartley born Feb. 10, 1919 - unknown where! died Feb. 19, 1984 - her cremains were buried in the Brinnon cemetery in Jefferson Co., WA She married Chester Earl Melheim (1925-2007) at Stevenson, WA Sep. 20, 1954, but they divorced within 10 years! I have not been able to find any funeral homes in Brinnon, WA, and my contact with nearby funeral homes in Bremerton, WA and other cities in Kitsap Co., WA has been to no avail. What I try to find out, is primarily: * The exact place of Helen's BIRTH? * The exact place of Helen's DEATH? * Year of their DIVORCE? This information would presumably be included in an OBITUARY for her, if one can be found? Or maybe their DIVORCE is referred in local newspapers? Thanks a million in advance for your great assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Save ▼ ⎙Print Share▼ Chester Melheim in the Washington, Marriage Records, 1865-2004 Record Image View ✎Add alternate information !Report issue Name: Chester Melheim Spouse: Helen Bartley Marriage Date: 20 Sep 1954 Marriage Place: Skamania Date Recorded: 30 Sep 1954 Reference Number: swskmmcbook34_181 Save ▼ Cancel Dear Listers, This inquiry was posted about three months ago together with two inquiries for obituaries from Puyallup, WA. Cliff helped me with the ones from Puyallup, WA, but this one from Brinnon, WA is still unsolved: Helen Mae MELHEIM, nee Bartley born Feb. 10, 1919 - unknown where! died Feb. 19, 1984 - her cremains were buried in the Brinnon cemetery in Jefferson Co., WA She married Chester Earl Melheim (1925-2007) at Stevenson, WA Sep. 20, 1954, but they divorced within 10 years! I have not been able to find any funeral homes in Brinnon, WA, and my contact with nearby funeral homes in Bremerton, WA and other cities in Kitsap Co., WA has been to no avail. What I try to find out, is primarily: * The exact place of Helen's BIRTH? * The exact place of Helen's DEATH? * Year of their DIVORCE? This information would presumably be included in an OBITUARY for her, if one can be found? Or maybe their DIVORCE is referred in local newspapers? Thanks a million in advance for your great assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Mark and other Listers! Thank you very much, Mark, for your efforts on my behalf. I am so grateful, but I guess we can only regret that Portland newspapers are so hard to find... Now, you mention finding references to his wife Emma Hill in "Genealogy Bank" in the Washington newspapers. Do we have any listers who subscribe to that and who may be willing to help me? I would be so happy and for ever indebted... Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On May 18, 2015, at 6:52 PM, Mark Erickson via wrote: > I looked for this man today, but noticed that there are very limited Portland newspapers for the year he died. I’m not sure why. There are plenty of other Oregon papers, but Portland seems to be missing 1894. Not just online, but also in microfilms. I haven’t done extensive research into the papers available for that date in Portland, but I did find him in the Oregon archives online. It says he died 2 April 1894, City of Portland. > > His wife seems to show up in GenealogyBank in the Washington newspapers, but I don’t have a subscription to that. > > -Mark ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dear Annette and other Listers! Thank you very much, Annette, for your attempts to find Erick Hill's obituary in Portland, OR. Maybe they never wrote one... Could it be that Erick Hill just "took off" abandoning Emma, just like he "took off" from his first "girlfriend" in Minnesota when she was pregnant? I keep wondering about Emma. Regardless of Erick, Emma must have lived somewhere between her marriage to Erick in 1890 and her 2nd marriage to Herbert Davey in 1918, but although I have today spent considerable time looking for her in the 1900 and 1910 censuses, even in city directories, I just canNOT find her, at least not for sure! There are several Emma Hills in various city directories from the Seattle/Everett, WA area, but none that can for sure be identified as Erick's wife or widow! Is it perhaps possible to find an obituary for Emma Holte Hill Davey from Mar. 12/16, 1931? A Seattle obituary probably wouldn't tell us much, but since her family lived at Stanwood, WA and she's buried there, maybe a "better" obituary can be found in the Stanwood paper? Thanks again for your wonderful assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On May 17, 2015, at 6:46 PM, Annette Bowen via wrote: > This is a site for Historic Oregon Newspapers. > http://oregonnews.uoregon.edu/search/pages/ > > I didn't have any luck finding your man. > > Annnette > > On 5/17/15, Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> Dear Listers! >> >> I have tonite done some "brainstorming" on this problem, and I found this >> death record in Seattle, WA: >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> Name: Emma Davey [Emma Holte] >> Gender: Female >> Marital Status: Married >> Race: White >> Age: 56 >> Birth Date: 13 Oct 1874 >> Birth Place: Norway >> Death Date: 12 Mar 1931 >> Death Place: Seattle, King, Washington >> Burial Date: 14 Mar 1931 >> Burial Place: Stanwood, Wisconsin (should be Washington!?) >> Father: P Holte >> Mother: >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> And I find the marriage of Herbert E. DAVEY and Emma G. HILL in Seattle, WA >> July 15, 1918 >> >> Herbert Edwin Davey was born in England Feb. 27, 1881 and returned to >> England where he died in Hammersmith, London 4th quarter of 1972. >> >> Interesting is it to see that Emma was buried at STANWOOD, WA. Find-a-grave >> reveals that's also the burial site of her father Jacob Holte who died in >> 1899, 64 years old, as well as her brothers Peter and Gotfred Holte! Erick >> Hill doesn't appear to be there!! >> >> Another "intreaguing" question would be: WHERE was Emma Hill between 1890 >> and 1918?? Was she maybe married to someone else between Erick Hill and >> Herbert Davey?? >> >> Thanks again for any additional information anyone can provide on this >> family! >> >> Very sincerely yours, >> >> Lars E. Oyane >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> On May 17, 2015, at 7:57 AM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: >> >>> Dear Listers! >>> >>>> From the Oregon Vital records index I have found that the Erick Hill who >>>> died in Portland, OR, died on Apr. 2, 1894. Maybe with an exact date it >>>> may be possible to find "something" in the Portland, OR NEWSPAPER? >>> >>> Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! >>> >>> Very sincerely yours, >>> >>> Lars E. Oyane >>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> On May 16, 2015, at 5:11 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Listers, >>>> >>>> I just made an unexpected discovery which may make the tracing of this >>>> Erick A. Hill somewhat easier: >>>> >>>> E. A. Hill of Snohomish Co., WA and Emma E. Holte of Snohomish Co., WA >>>> were married in Seattle, WA on Mar. 8, 1890 by Rev. C. O. Rosing! >>>> >>>> This has to be "my" Erick, but strangely enough, there is just nothing to >>>> be seen of this couple in any other sources. Maybe they moved directly >>>> to Portland, OR? >>>> >>>> Any suggestions would be more than welcome! >>>> >>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>> >>>> Lars E. Oyane >>>> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >

I forgot to mention that I looked at the nearby papers hoping to find something. The only mention of an April 2 death was the same article in both the Dalles (east of Portland) and Astoria (West of Portland). Both articles were in the April 3rd edition. If they can report a death from Paris, it shouldn’t be hard to report a local death. PARIS, April 2 - Prof. Brown Sequared, the supposed inventor of the elixir of life, died here today. I love how short both articles are. Nothing more needs to be said.

I looked for this man today, but noticed that there are very limited Portland newspapers for the year he died. I’m not sure why. There are plenty of other Oregon papers, but Portland seems to be missing 1894. Not just online, but also in microfilms. I haven’t done extensive research into the papers available for that date in Portland, but I did find him in the Oregon archives online. It says he died 2 April 1894, City of Portland. His wife seems to show up in GenealogyBank in the Washington newspapers, but I don’t have a subscription to that. -Mark

Dear Listers, This inquiry was posted about three months ago together with two inquiries for obituaries from Puyallup, WA. Cliff helped me with the ones from Puyallup, WA, but this one from Brinnon, WA is still unsolved: Helen Mae MELHEIM, nee Bartley born Feb. 10, 1919 - unknown where! died Feb. 19, 1984 - her cremains were buried in the Brinnon cemetery in Jefferson Co., WA She married Chester Earl Melheim (1925-2007) at Stevenson, WA Sep. 20, 1954, but they divorced within 10 years! I have not been able to find any funeral homes in Brinnon, WA, and my contact with nearby funeral homes in Bremerton, WA and other cities in Kitsap Co., WA has been to no avail. What I try to find out, is primarily: * The exact place of Helen's BIRTH? * The exact place of Helen's DEATH? * Year of their DIVORCE? This information would presumably be included in an OBITUARY for her, if one can be found? Or maybe their DIVORCE is referred in local newspapers? Thanks a million in advance for your great assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane

I have a Genealogy Bank subscription, but I'm not finding much. There is a simple death notice in the Seattle Daily Times for March 14, 1931 " ​Davey, Emma - 1600 Terry Ave., 37 - March 12" There are some other references to an Emma Davey, but they are from 1939, 1943, and 1949--too late for your Emma. There are also some articles about women named Emma Holte, but none are the right Emma. Marian ​ On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Dear Mark and other Listers! > > Thank you very much, Mark, for your efforts on my behalf. I am so > grateful, but I guess we can only regret that Portland newspapers are so > hard to find... > > Now, you mention finding references to his wife Emma Hill in "Genealogy > Bank" in the Washington newspapers. Do we have any listers who subscribe > to that and who may be willing to help me? I would be so happy and for > ever indebted... > > Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On May 18, 2015, at 6:52 PM, Mark Erickson via wrote: > > > I looked for this man today, but noticed that there are very limited > Portland newspapers for the year he died. I’m not sure why. There are > plenty of other Oregon papers, but Portland seems to be missing 1894. Not > just online, but also in microfilms. I haven’t done extensive research into > the papers available for that date in Portland, but I did find him in the > Oregon archives online. It says he died 2 April 1894, City of Portland. > > > > His wife seems to show up in GenealogyBank in the Washington newspapers, > but I don’t have a subscription to that. > > > > -Mark > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > >

Dear Annette and other Listers! Thank you very much, Annette, for sending me the reference to the Norwegian National Library. I cannot access their online records from Germany where I am living, but I have asked for help in Norway! By the way, Nils must have died in the State of Indiana(?), but I see no such person in the Indiana Death Indexes available online (ancestry.com and FamilySearch). Maybe those indexes are not complete? Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter so far! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On May 17, 2015, at 6:05 PM, Annette Bowen via wrote: > Lars, > I found this doing a Google search for Skandinaven. > > Chronicling America lists the libraries that have copies. Maybe > someone on the list lives near one of them. > http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83045493/holdings/ > > There was also this reply to a query asking about Skandinaven. > Apparently the Norwegian national Library has it on microfilm. > > From: R D <find_kin@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: Newspaper Skandinaven + Chicago newspapers > Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 00:03:45 -0800 (PST) > In-Reply-To: <200411162214.iAGMEeFR017455@lists5.rootsweb.com> > > http://www.nb.no/html/norsk-amerikanske_aviser_pa_mi.html > > While this webpage is from the Norwegian National > Library web site, it lists all the Norwegian-American > (Norse language) newspapers held on microfilm at that > library. The film numbers (and publication range) may > help you track it down at a Chicago or other US > location. This information was originally posted on > the Norway-L. (Check their archives for other > postings.) > > For example, > "Skandinaven (Chicago, Ill.: daglig utg.) > 10 (1876) -1930 > Skandinaven (Chicago, Ill.: semi-weekly utg.) > 1 (1866) - 76 (1941) > Skandinaven (Chicago, Ill.: sndagsutg.) > 28 (1893) - 35 (1901) > Skandinaven og Amerika (Chicago, Ill.) > Utgitt daglig, 1873, Jan. - June > Utgitt semi-weekly, 1873 July - Dec. > Sammensling av avisene: Skandinaven og Amerika, 1873 > 1873 Jan. - Dec." > > Annette > > On 5/17/15, Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> Dear Greg and other Listers! >> >> Thank you very much, Greg, for your latest message in regard to Nils >> Jorpeland. >> >> I don't know how much "other" newspapers would write about an incident like >> the one where Nils drowned, but we know it appeared in "Skandinaven". >> Doesn't anyone on the list have access to "Skandinaven"'s issues from 1916? >> >> Thanks again for your great help in this matter! >> >> Very sincerely yours, >> >> Lars E. Oyane >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> On May 17, 2015, at 7:21 AM, Greg Hanson via wrote: >> >>> I couldn't find anything on Nils Jorpeland, but here is a link to an >>> article about Indiana Harbor: >>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Harbor_and_Ship_Canal >>> >>> I did find an article on Chronicling America about a 24 year old Edward >>> Jorpeland who was run over by a streetcar in Marshalltown Iowa on or about >>> 17 March 1897. That was the only Jorpeland story I could find on either >>> Chronicling America or Genealogybank. >>> >>>> Date: Sun, 17 May 2015 04:59:44 -0500 >>>> To: norway@rootsweb.com >>>> Subject: [NOR] Nils Jorpeland - accident reported in Skandinaven 1916 - >>>> more details available? >>>> From: norway@rootsweb.com >>>> >>>> Dear Listers! >>>> >>>> The Stavanger Aftenblad Journal of Sep. 28, 1916 included a news item >>>> which I have read with great interest. It says as follows: >>>> >>>> ~~~~~ >>>> >>>> "Skandinaven" writes: A young Stavanger man named Nils Jorpeland, who >>>> worked for the Great Lake Dredge Co. out by Indiana Harbor, recently fell >>>> over board and drowned, noone knowing, how the accident could happen. >>>> Only three hours later he was found - dead. >>>> >>>> He was supposed to return home for Christmas. His father wanted to see >>>> him, so also his mother and his brothers and sisters - and now instead >>>> this sad message. >>>> >>>> Jorpeland was only 26 years old. >>>> >>>> ~~~~~ >>>> >>>> Can someone help me locate the original article from "Skandinaven"? >>>> >>>> I am interested in learning the following details ablut this man who >>>> emigrated in 1911 heading them for Norway, Dickey Co., ND: >>>> >>>> * The exact date of this incident? >>>> >>>> * And what would I write as the place of this accident (town in >>>> Indiana?)? >>>> >>>> * What kind of work should we say Nils was doing? >>>> >>>> Thanks a million for your assistance in this matter! >>>> >>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>> >>>> Lars E. Oyane

Dear Annette and other Listers! Thank you very much, Annette, for your attempts to find Erick Hill's obituary in Portland, OR. Maybe they never wrote one... Could it be that Erick Hill just "took off" abandoning Emma, just like he "took off" from his first "girlfriend" in Minnesota when she was pregnant? I keep wondering about Emma. Regardless of Erick, Emma must have lived somewhere between her marriage to Erick in 1890 and her 2nd marriage to Herbert Davey in 1918, but although I have today spent considerable time looking for her in the 1900 and 1910 censuses, even in city directories, I just canNOT find her, at least not for sure! There are several Emma Hills in various city directories from the Seattle/Everett, WA area, but none that can for sure be identified as Erick's wife or widow! Is it perhaps possible to find an obituary for Emma Holte Hill Davey from Mar. 12/16, 1931? A Seattle obituary probably wouldn't tell us much, but since her family lived at Stanwood, WA and she's buried there, maybe a "better" obituary can be found in the Stanwood paper? Thanks again for your wonderful assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On May 17, 2015, at 6:46 PM, Annette Bowen via wrote: > This is a site for Historic Oregon Newspapers. > http://oregonnews.uoregon.edu/search/pages/ > > I didn't have any luck finding your man. > > Annnette > > On 5/17/15, Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> Dear Listers! >> >> I have tonite done some "brainstorming" on this problem, and I found this >> death record in Seattle, WA: >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> Name: Emma Davey [Emma Holte] >> Gender: Female >> Marital Status: Married >> Race: White >> Age: 56 >> Birth Date: 13 Oct 1874 >> Birth Place: Norway >> Death Date: 12 Mar 1931 >> Death Place: Seattle, King, Washington >> Burial Date: 14 Mar 1931 >> Burial Place: Stanwood, Wisconsin (should be Washington!?) >> Father: P Holte >> Mother: >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> And I find the marriage of Herbert E. DAVEY and Emma G. HILL in Seattle, WA >> July 15, 1918 >> >> Herbert Edwin Davey was born in England Feb. 27, 1881 and returned to >> England where he died in Hammersmith, London 4th quarter of 1972. >> >> Interesting is it to see that Emma was buried at STANWOOD, WA. Find-a-grave >> reveals that's also the burial site of her father Jacob Holte who died in >> 1899, 64 years old, as well as her brothers Peter and Gotfred Holte! Erick >> Hill doesn't appear to be there!! >> >> Another "intreaguing" question would be: WHERE was Emma Hill between 1890 >> and 1918?? Was she maybe married to someone else between Erick Hill and >> Herbert Davey?? >> >> Thanks again for any additional information anyone can provide on this >> family! >> >> Very sincerely yours, >> >> Lars E. Oyane >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> On May 17, 2015, at 7:57 AM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: >> >>> Dear Listers! >>> >>>> From the Oregon Vital records index I have found that the Erick Hill who >>>> died in Portland, OR, died on Apr. 2, 1894. Maybe with an exact date it >>>> may be possible to find "something" in the Portland, OR NEWSPAPER? >>> >>> Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! >>> >>> Very sincerely yours, >>> >>> Lars E. Oyane >>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> On May 16, 2015, at 5:11 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Listers, >>>> >>>> I just made an unexpected discovery which may make the tracing of this >>>> Erick A. Hill somewhat easier: >>>> >>>> E. A. Hill of Snohomish Co., WA and Emma E. Holte of Snohomish Co., WA >>>> were married in Seattle, WA on Mar. 8, 1890 by Rev. C. O. Rosing! >>>> >>>> This has to be "my" Erick, but strangely enough, there is just nothing to >>>> be seen of this couple in any other sources. Maybe they moved directly >>>> to Portland, OR? >>>> >>>> Any suggestions would be more than welcome! >>>> >>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>> >>>> Lars E. Oyane >>>> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> >>>> On May 16, 2015, at 4:21 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Listers, >>>>> >>>>> I have for years tried to figure out what became of this gentleman: >>>>> >>>>> Erick Anderson HILL >>>>> born in Hafslo parish, Luster Co., Norway Mar. 9, 1861 >>>>> >>>>> He emigrated in the late 1870's to Swift Co., MN >>>>> >>>>> had by 1887 removed to Everett, WA where he is recorded in 1887 and >>>>> 1889. >>>>> >>>>> He then disappears! >>>>> >>>>> Find-a-grave has an interesting entry in the Lone Fir Pioneer Cemetery >>>>> in Portland, OR: >>>>> >>>>> Erick HILL - no birthdate - died in April of 1894 >>>>> >>>>> Is there any way we can find out whether this be the same person? Maybe >>>>> a news item from Portland, OR? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks a million for your great assistance in this matter! >>>>> >>>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>>> >>>>> Lars E. Oyane

The first couple are in Nordre Honningsvaag in FT 1910 http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01036982001702 -----Opprinnelig melding----- From: EDWARD A SCRIVEN via Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 6:22 AM To: norway@rootsweb.com Subject: [NOR] Help with a place in Finnmark On the enclosed page there are 6 references to a place Hvåg. The record is from 1906 in Kjelvik in Finnmark. I have found this place mentioned frequently here. I thought it was a parish as it is referred to in several places as being where individuals were confirmed. Anyone on here familiar with Finnmark to help me know of another spelling or where else I can look for records from there? Thanks Source information: Finnmark county, Kjelvik in Måsøy, Parish register (official) nr. 8 (1900-1910), Marriage records 1906, page 141. Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=4329&idx_id=4329&uid=ny&idx_side=-123 Permanent imagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20060504070546.jpg Edward A. Scriven Layton, Utah Always be Happy!! Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Could it be SKARSVÅG ??? "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skarsv%C3%A5g" Clark in Japan On 18-May-15 01:22 PM, EDWARD A SCRIVEN via wrote: > On the enclosed page there are 6 references to a place Hvåg. The record is from 1906 in Kjelvik in Finnmark. I have found this place mentioned frequently here. I thought it was a parish as it is referred to in several places as being where individuals were confirmed. Anyone on here familiar with Finnmark to help me know of another spelling or where else I can look for records from there? Thanks > Source information: Finnmark county, Kjelvik in Måsøy, Parish register (official) nr. 8 (1900-1910), Marriage records 1906, page 141. > Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=4329&idx_id=4329&uid=ny&idx_side=-123 > Permanent imagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20060504070546.jpg > > > Edward A. Scriven > Layton, Utah > Always be Happy!! > > > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Here is a twist to consider, from the 1900-telling: "http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=17&filnamn=f01933&gardpostnr=97&sokefelt=skjul" HENRIK Pedersen Naustnæs temporary residence is Finmarken, Paa Fiske Clark in Japan On 18-May-15 12:40 PM, Bev Anderson via wrote: > Edward - > > > I concur with Clark, except the spelling of the farm as I see it is Vardø Henriknæsset. The mark over the last letter of Vardo means the spelling is Vardø. I am not absolutely certain of the first part of the second name of the farm, but the last part I believe is ...riknæsset. The beginning letters could be Hen or Kve. > > Næsset, Nesset, Neset, other variants, means "peninsula." [It's common in my ancestral lineage in a different area of Norway, so I'm used to seeing many spelling variants.] > > Beste hilsen, > > Bev > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: C&M Pederson via <norway@rootsweb.com> > To: EDWARD A SCRIVEN <eascriv@msn.com>; norway@rootsweb.com > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 10:14 PM > Subject: Re: [NOR] Place name help > > Hei, Edward. > Searching for the farm name, I instead found what I believe to be your Elen Andreasen and her > daughter Alfine / Alfild in the 1900-telling. > "http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=17&filnamn=f01933&gardpostnr=263&sokefelt=skjul" > > I cannot find a farm name that comes close to what this looks like... "Vardo Henrikeasset?" > Have a nice day! > Clark in Japan > > On 18-May-15 11:09 AM, EDWARD A SCRIVEN via wrote: >> >From Balsfjord in Troms I have a birth and christening of a female (#30, 1st female on the page) Alfine Andersdatter. She is illegitimate, and I am struggling with the residence of the mother. It kind of looks like Henriksaasset. Is that what it says? I have not found it on my map. Can someone help me? >> Thanks >> Source information: Troms county, Balsfjord in Balsfjord, Parish register (official) nr. 5 (1884-1897), Birth and baptism records 1894, page 61. >> Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6713&idx_id=6713&idx_listetype=vi&idx_kjonn=&uid=ny&idx_side=-0 >> Permanent imagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20061212610292.jpg >

Hei, Edward. Searching for the farm name, I instead found what I believe to be your Elen Andreasen and her daughter Alfine / Alfild in the 1900-telling. "http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=17&filnamn=f01933&gardpostnr=263&sokefelt=skjul" I cannot find a farm name that comes close to what this looks like... "Vardo Henrikeasset?" Have a nice day! Clark in Japan On 18-May-15 11:09 AM, EDWARD A SCRIVEN via wrote: > >From Balsfjord in Troms I have a birth and christening of a female (#30, 1st female on the page) Alfine Andersdatter. She is illegitimate, and I am struggling with the residence of the mother. It kind of looks like Henriksaasset. Is that what it says? I have not found it on my map. Can someone help me? > Thanks > Source information: Troms county, Balsfjord in Balsfjord, Parish register (official) nr. 5 (1884-1897), Birth and baptism records 1894, page 61. > Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6713&idx_id=6713&idx_listetype=vi&idx_kjonn=&uid=ny&idx_side=-0 > Permanent imagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20061212610292.jpg

Dear Listers! I have today revealed that Ole A. Martinson of Leaf Mountain township, Burke Co., ND, born May 12. 1879, was indeed born on this date, but he came from Stange County in Hedmark fylke and is no relation to "our" Ole! But what a coincidence this was, same first name Ole, same father's first name Anders, same birthdate May 12, 1879, and almost the same emigration year (one in 1882, the other one in 1885)!! So, back again to "last stage". What in the world may have become of this family in the US? Any suggestions would be gold worth! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On May 17, 2015, at 4:02 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: > Dear Mark and other Listers! > > Thank you very much, Mark, for your messages in regard to the Sorenson family. > > I have studied the names you sent me; I am afraid I don't know of any Laurits in Andrew's immediate family; neither do I know of any Peder or Emil. > > As far as Anton O. Sorenson of Mountrail and McLean Cos., ND is concerned, I find him in various census records, showing he was born in IA about 1894, which doesn't "match" too well with "our" Anton... > > Could it be that the children went by different last names? > > I previously found a railroad worker in Minneapolis, MN in 1910 by the name Anton Anderson, 36 years old and emigrated in 1884, both very close "matches" to "our" Anton, but I am unable to identify him in the Minneapolis City Directories about 1910... > > I also find an Ole A. Martinson, born (according to the WW1 draft record) in Norway May 12, 1879, residing in Leaf Mountain township, Burke Co., ND in 1910 and later. He has the same birthdate as "our" Ole. Can he be the one we are looking for? > > Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On May 17, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Mark Erickson via wrote: > >> “The only place we now for sure the family resided, was in 1900 when the census for Township 161 Range 89 in Ward Co., ND (present-day Burke Co., ND)“ >> >> There is a SORENSEN, LAURITS P. buying 160 acres of that same land in 1905. Township 161 Range 89, Southeast quarter of section 21. The land patent was issued 19 Oct., 1905. Could be a relative. >> >> There’s also a SORENSEN, PEDER C, and SORENSEN, EMIL buying land nearby in 1902 and 1908. >> >> I also noticed these land purchases. Could he be your Anton? >> SORENSON, ANTON O >> Issue date: 6/26/1931 >> Township152N, Range 93W, Section 14 >> County: Mckenzie, Mountrail, North Dakota. >> (NOTE* This land stradles the Missouri River, that’s why it’s in two counties) >> >> SORENSON, ANTON O >> Issue date: 3/4/1916 >> Township152N, Range 91W, Section 32 >> County: Mountrail, North Dakota. >> >> Bismark Tribune; Wednesday, November 22, 1944 - Page 4 >> FOUR DAKOTANS LISTED AS CAUSUALTIES >> SORENSON, Odean Oral, Pfc, USMCR. Parents. Mr. and Mrs. Anton O. Sorenson, Max. >> (Max is a town in McLean County, North Dakota) >> >> -Mark > > Dear Listers! > > This problem has been discussed several times on the NORWAY list, last time in January of 2014, but a final "break-thru" is still to be made. Now, this part of my manuscript has to be published, and it be SO GREAT to be able to present a more complete family record! > > Does anyone live in or near BURKE CO., ND who might have a chance to look up land records at the Burke Co., ND courthouse? > > Anders Sorenson Odegaard > born in Hafslo, Norway Aug. 9, 1829 > married in Bergen, Norway May 8, 1870 to: > > Dorothea Simonsdotter Boe > born in Vang, Valdres, Norway Dec. 29, 1845 > > Anders was a potato merchant in Bergen until 1879, when he emigrated to the US, and in 1880 Dorothea followed. > > Children in this family: > > * Ole Larson (Boe), son of Dorothea and one Lars Olson Aasen, was born in Vang, Valdres, Norway Sep. 14, 1865 and is listed with Anders and Dorothea in the 1875 census, but then under the name Ole Anderson. He may have emigrated, but is so far unknown! > > * Anton Marius Anderson (Odegaard), born in Bergen, Norway May 30, 1875, emigrated to the US in 1885. > > * Anna Severine Anderson (Odegaard), born in Bergen, Norway May 2, 1876, emigrated to the US in 1885. > > * Ole Anderson (Odegaard), born in Bergen, Norway May 12, 1879, emigrated to the US in 1885 (he had a twin brother Marius who died shortly after birth). > > ~~~~~ > > When the three youngest children emigrated in 1885, they were "sent" by the Bergen City Welfare Department to their parents with address La Crosse, WI, but research has been done in La Crosse, WI - to no avail. They must have lived somewhere else at the time and only "picked up" the children in La Crosse, WI! > > The only place we now for sure the family resided, was in 1900 when the census for Township 161 Range 89 in Ward Co., ND (present-day Burke Co., ND) shows: > > SORENSON, Andrew not known 1822 aged 78 mar. 30 years Nor Nor Nor em. 1881 no occ. owns house fully paid > SORENSON, Tilda Mar 1847 aged 53 mar. 30 years 9(3) ch. Nor Nor Nor em. 1881 wife > SORENSON, Anton M May 1847 aged 23 single Nor Nor Nor em. 1881 son general laborer > > ~~~~~ > > What can be done next to find out what became of this family? I can only think of the following actions: > > ** Since Andrew Sorenson OWNED his house in Burke Co., ND (perhaps the current city of Bowbells?), there should be LAND RECORDS showing when he bought it and also when and how it changed owner after him. If we're real lucky, there may be a PROBATE RECORD involved showing death dates and addresses for the children... > > ** I presume there may also be NEWSPAPER ITEMS from the neighborhood telling about the Sorenson (Odegard) family, so if anyone has access to those, we might hav e a chance to find "something"! Maybe WEDDING ANNOUNCEMENTS involving the children? > > ** Finally, I presume it may also be worthwhile searching for MARRIAGE RECORDS at the Burke Co., ND courthouse for the three children, Anton Marius, Anna Severena and Ole, unless they would be recorded under Ward Co., ND (Minot), Burke being part of Ward Co. until 1910? > > Thanks again to all of you wonderful listers for any assistance or suggestions you may have! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane >

Honningsvåg? Lisbeth ----- Original Message ----- From: "EDWARD A SCRIVEN via" <norway@rootsweb.com> To: <norway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 6:22 AM Subject: [NOR] Help with a place in Finnmark On the enclosed page there are 6 references to a place Hvåg. The record is from 1906 in Kjelvik in Finnmark. I have found this place mentioned frequently here. I thought it was a parish as it is referred to in several places as being where individuals were confirmed. Anyone on here familiar with Finnmark to help me know of another spelling or where else I can look for records from there? Thanks Source information: Finnmark county, Kjelvik in Måsøy, Parish register (official) nr. 8 (1900-1910), Marriage records 1906, page 141. Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=4329&idx_id=4329&uid=ny&idx_side=-123 Permanent imagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20060504070546.jpg Edward A. Scriven Layton, Utah Always be Happy!! Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Edward - I concur with Clark, except the spelling of the farm as I see it is Vardø Henriknæsset. The mark over the last letter of Vardo means the spelling is Vardø. I am not absolutely certain of the first part of the second name of the farm, but the last part I believe is ...riknæsset. The beginning letters could be Hen or Kve. Næsset, Nesset, Neset, other variants, means "peninsula." [It's common in my ancestral lineage in a different area of Norway, so I'm used to seeing many spelling variants.] Beste hilsen, Bev ----- Original Message ----- From: C&M Pederson via <norway@rootsweb.com> To: EDWARD A SCRIVEN <eascriv@msn.com>; norway@rootsweb.com Cc: Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [NOR] Place name help Hei, Edward. Searching for the farm name, I instead found what I believe to be your Elen Andreasen and her daughter Alfine / Alfild in the 1900-telling. "http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=17&filnamn=f01933&gardpostnr=263&sokefelt=skjul" I cannot find a farm name that comes close to what this looks like... "Vardo Henrikeasset?" Have a nice day! Clark in Japan On 18-May-15 11:09 AM, EDWARD A SCRIVEN via wrote: > >From Balsfjord in Troms I have a birth and christening of a female (#30, 1st female on the page) Alfine Andersdatter. She is illegitimate, and I am struggling with the residence of the mother. It kind of looks like Henriksaasset. Is that what it says? I have not found it on my map. Can someone help me? > Thanks > Source information: Troms county, Balsfjord in Balsfjord, Parish register (official) nr. 5 (1884-1897), Birth and baptism records 1894, page 61. > Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6713&idx_id=6713&idx_listetype=vi&idx_kjonn=&uid=ny&idx_side=-0 > Permanent imagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20061212610292.jpg

out of the Norwegian National Library. The reference to it is below. The booklet is all the people in my Fermann root. Tittle Slektene Fermann : en oversikt Forfatter Busch, Anthon Carl 1900- Språk bokmål Utgitt Oslo, 1944 . - 47 numm., bl., 1 faks. Opplysninger Maskinskrevet Emner Fermann, Sleckten Hylleplass r q 929.2 Fermann ID 425191 Sent from my iPad John Ferman Minneapolis, MN