Oh, my. I'm so used to getting great help from the Norwegians, I just blindly plowed ahead. Sorry, I'll resend to the Swedes. And, thanks to both Don and Bev for politely saying..."Hey, we are Norwegians, not Swedes!" Smiles, Yvonne

First, I'd suggest you subscribe to the Sweden List and ask these same questions of them. I'm sure they can help you since you have parish names and to find records in Sweden's Arkiv Digital records a parish name is necessary. Same routine as subscribing to the Norway List - write Subscribe in the Subject line, follow instructions in the confirmation email: [email protected] From an atlas with maps of the Swedish läns/counties featuring borders and names from pre-1997 changes (Some läns have changed names since then): Ekshårad is in Hagfors Härad, Värmlands län. Voxna is in Ovanåker Härad, Gävleborgs län. [Yes, like in Norway, V/W are interchangeable, so Woxna is an alternative spelling.] Linköping is a parish name (Linköpings domkyrkafg ?sp on the map), in Linköping Härad, Östergötlands län. If you want, off-list I can send you the individual map pages (some läns are on two pages), or a zipped file of 17.7 MB with all the pages of the atlas (the latter only if your ISP server will take a file that large). The maps have been invaluable in "following in the footsteps" of my own Swedish ancestors, some of whom moved to one or more parishes. Modern Swedish map web site: https://kso.etjanster.lantmateriet.se/?e Besides Arkiv Digital (fee-based web site), there is also SVAR which has some information (top right, click on Other languages, then English): https://sok.riksarkivet.se/svar-digitala-forskarsalen Swedish dictionaries (some of which can be downloaded; the copyright expired ages ago): http://swedishgenealogyguide.com/dictionaries/1788-swedish-english-dictionary https://books.google.com/books?id=hIECAAAAQAAJ http://swedishgenealogyguide.com/dictionaries/swedish-historical-dictionary-database-shdd https://books.google.com/books?id=oOAFAAAAQAAJ https://books.google.com/books?id=ZXstAAAAYAAJ https://books.google.com/books?id=BMEDAAAAQAAJ http://translation.babylon-software.com/swedish/to-english/Swedish-English-Online-Dictionary/ Hope this helps some. I am not currently subscribed to Arkiv Digital, so I can't look up the records for you. Hilsen, Bev On 2/10/2017 1:43 PM, Yvonne Morehouse wrote: > Listers: > > I'm on the trail of two possible relatives but I'm not doing well. I > hope you can help me out with family information on two people who > lived and died in Sweden in different places and during different time > frames. Some of my known Swedish ancestors were born in/around Hara, > Ekshärad, Värmland and had the surname, Pihlström. > > The possible relatives are Håkan Pihlström and Anna Mathilda (not sure > about Anna's middle name) Pihlström. > > Håkan was b. at Ekshärad in 1827 and d. at Gävleborgs län in 1877. > Håkan's wife is likely Carin Jansdotter also born at Ekshärad in 1827 > and died at Stockholm in 1877. > > Anna Mathilda(?) Pihlström b. at Woxna, Gävleborgs län, Sweden in 1857 > and died in 1935 at Stockholm. Anna married Carl Ludwig Cassel b. at > Linköping, Östergötland, Sweden in 1843 and died at Stockholm in 1922. > > I do appreciate your excellent help. > > Smiles, Yvonne >

Listers: I'm on the trail of two possible relatives but I'm not doing well. I hope you can help me out with family information on two people who lived and died in Sweden in different places and during different time frames. Some of my known Swedish ancestors were born in/around Hara, Ekshärad, Värmland and had the surname, Pihlström. The possible relatives are Håkan Pihlström and Anna Mathilda (not sure about Anna's middle name) Pihlström. Håkan was b. at Ekshärad in 1827 and d. at Gävleborgs län in 1877. Håkan's wife is likely Carin Jansdotter also born at Ekshärad in 1827 and died at Stockholm in 1877. Anna Mathilda(?) Pihlström b. at Woxna, Gävleborgs län, Sweden in 1857 and died in 1935 at Stockholm. Anna married Carl Ludwig Cassel b. at Linköping, Östergötland, Sweden in 1843 and died at Stockholm in 1922. I do appreciate your excellent help. Smiles, Yvonne

Nurse: Mr. Olsen, may I ask vhy yew and Lena drove to da hospital in separate cars? Ole: Dat vas mine aidea. I figured if ve got stuck in traffic, at least vun of us vould get dere on time. By da vay, is dere any news yet? Nurse: Ya, yew betcha, Mr. Olsen. Lena’s had her baby. Vould yew like to guess vhat she had? Ole: Vell, I hope it’s a girl. Nurse: No, it’s a boy. Ole: Dat’s okay. Dat vas my second choice. Lena bet me $100 dat da baby vil look like her side of da family, and I bet $100 it vould look ;like my side. So, vich side does he look like? Nurse: To be honest, Mr Olsen, all newborns look like baby monkeys. Ole: Uffda, den I vin. But I vonder, does he look at all like me? Nurse: Vell, vhen yew hold him a certain vay, he does indeed look like yew. But yew can’t hold him dat vay long, or all da blood rushes to his head. Ole: Dew I get to see da new baby sometime soon? Nurse: Lena asked dat ve vait until he is a little bit older, a little stronger, and can stand da shock. Ole: Dat Lena, she tinks of everyting Sent from my iPad John Ferman Minneapolis, MN

FamilySearch seems to have more than one Chalres Robinson in Sheridan County. Here is the marriage to Christine Schneider. Name Charles Percy Robinson Event Type Marriage Event Date 31 Dec 1902 Event Place , Sheridan, Wyoming, United States Gender Male Age 29 Marital Status Married Birth Year (Estimated) 1873 Spouse's Name Christina Schneider Spouse's Gender Female Spouse's Age 21 Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated) 1881 Citing this Record "Wyoming Marriages, 1869-1923," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XR4F-VY2 : accessed 10 February 2017), Charles Percy Robinson and Christina Schneider, 31 Dec 1902; citing , Sheridan, Wyoming, United States, Wyoming State Archives, Cheyenne; FHL microfilm 176,452. Annette On 2/9/17, Mark Erickson <[email protected]> wrote: > I’ve been looking at newspaper articles and trying to follow Andrew Olson > and daughter Christine “Olson” Robinson. They are very confusing. Just for > reference, here’s Charles and wife Christine in Find-a-Grave: > Charles Percy "Charlie" Robinson > Birth: Oct. 1, 1874; Williams, Hamilton County, Iowa > Death: Jul. 31, 1950; Sheridan, Sheridan County, Wyoming > Spouse: Christine O. Robinson (1877 - 1965)* > https://tinyurl.com/gne262o > > You said Christine was an Olson from Hamilton Co., IA. > * Christine Olson in Webster City, Hamilton Co., IA Aug. 27, 1877, still > lived in Hamilton Co., IA in 1895, but married her 1st husband Charles > Schneider in Sheridan Co., WY July 15, 1896 > > The 1920 Census has them listed with her daughter Lillian. > Charlie O Robinson 46 Head > Christine Robinson 42 Wife > Mary Robinson 8 Daughter > Lillian Schneider 21 Stepdaughter > Andrew Olson 83 Father-in-law > > So this is probably Charlie Robinson’s 1st wife in 1908? > Sheridan Enterprise no. 68 November 03, 1908, page 5 > TAKING A TRIP > Charlie Robinson, wife, son and daughter, of Beaver Creek, will leave this > afternoon for Clarinda, la., where they will visit friends and relatives > for about a month, and then go to Long Beach, Cal., to spend the winter. On > their return they will stop in Seattle, and take in the exposition, and in > all probability spend the rest of the summer in that city. They expect to > be gone about a year. > https://tinyurl.com/hunuwb8 > > Here’s where it starts to get confusing. > > NOTE- Very long obit. I’ll quote a few names and provide a link. > CLARINDA HERALD, Clarinda, Iowa, Apr 18, 1918 > Obituary of Henry Laub. > Had 13 children. These three are who we’re interested in: Mrs. George > Jenrick and Charles H. Laub of Sheridan, Wyo.; Mrs. Charles C. Robinson of > Porterville, Calif. > http://www.iagenweb.org/page/obituaries/julia/Preston.html > > That means Christine is a Laub? The 1922 article below seems to confirm it. > > Sheridan Post no. 72 August 02, 1922, page 4 > Mrs. Charlie Robinson, sister of Mrs. George Jenrick spent Wednesday night > with her sister at her home on Beaver creek. > Charlie Robinson, accompanied by Mrs. Leta Lamb and her daughter, Vera and > friend motored out to George Jenrick's ranch Thursday. > > BUT WAIT. Andrew is named as Charles Robinson’s father-in-law. > > Sheridan Post no. 112 September 13, 1921, page 5 > Charles Robinson and father-in-law Andre Olsen, made final on her homestead > September 6th. > > WHO IS THIS? Did he marry Christine in 1920? > > Sheridan Post no. 360 March 04, 1920, page 4 > Charles Robinson, brother of Surveyor Robinson, while east visiting friends > took unto himself a wife and returned with his bride Sunday. > https://tinyurl.com/zul5cyw > > At least you have a few new names to look at. > > BTW, I don’t think the links are working for the Wyoming papers. Here’s a > link to the main page. > http://newspapers.wyo.gov/ > Norwaylist > Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Just some thoughts about this thread:  Cemeteries should have Interment records that will provide information about the original purchaser of the plot or plots, and a list of the names of the people who are buried there....date of death, and date of burial. I have learned a lot by reviewing these records:  babies who died, but were un-named and who (for whatever reason) don't seem to be listed in official records; cause of death, especially for a person who died very long ago, and recently, that the date of death on the monument (1930s) was off by a lot...(he died in 1948!) No wonder I couldn't find a death certificate! If you have an approximate date of death and a surname, you can write to the cemetery administrator and inquire about the interment records.  Sometimes there is a fee; other times I offer a donation. Regards, Carol Dallas >

I’ve been looking at newspaper articles and trying to follow Andrew Olson and daughter Christine “Olson” Robinson. They are very confusing. Just for reference, here’s Charles and wife Christine in Find-a-Grave: Charles Percy "Charlie" Robinson Birth: Oct. 1, 1874; Williams, Hamilton County, Iowa Death: Jul. 31, 1950; Sheridan, Sheridan County, Wyoming Spouse: Christine O. Robinson (1877 - 1965)* https://tinyurl.com/gne262o You said Christine was an Olson from Hamilton Co., IA. * Christine Olson in Webster City, Hamilton Co., IA Aug. 27, 1877, still lived in Hamilton Co., IA in 1895, but married her 1st husband Charles Schneider in Sheridan Co., WY July 15, 1896 The 1920 Census has them listed with her daughter Lillian. Charlie O Robinson 46 Head Christine Robinson 42 Wife Mary Robinson 8 Daughter Lillian Schneider 21 Stepdaughter Andrew Olson 83 Father-in-law So this is probably Charlie Robinson’s 1st wife in 1908? Sheridan Enterprise no. 68 November 03, 1908, page 5 TAKING A TRIP Charlie Robinson, wife, son and daughter, of Beaver Creek, will leave this afternoon for Clarinda, la., where they will visit friends and relatives for about a month, and then go to Long Beach, Cal., to spend the winter. On their return they will stop in Seattle, and take in the exposition, and in all probability spend the rest of the summer in that city. They expect to be gone about a year. https://tinyurl.com/hunuwb8 Here’s where it starts to get confusing. NOTE- Very long obit. I’ll quote a few names and provide a link. CLARINDA HERALD, Clarinda, Iowa, Apr 18, 1918 Obituary of Henry Laub. Had 13 children. These three are who we’re interested in: Mrs. George Jenrick and Charles H. Laub of Sheridan, Wyo.; Mrs. Charles C. Robinson of Porterville, Calif. http://www.iagenweb.org/page/obituaries/julia/Preston.html That means Christine is a Laub? The 1922 article below seems to confirm it. Sheridan Post no. 72 August 02, 1922, page 4 Mrs. Charlie Robinson, sister of Mrs. George Jenrick spent Wednesday night with her sister at her home on Beaver creek. Charlie Robinson, accompanied by Mrs. Leta Lamb and her daughter, Vera and friend motored out to George Jenrick's ranch Thursday. BUT WAIT. Andrew is named as Charles Robinson’s father-in-law. Sheridan Post no. 112 September 13, 1921, page 5 Charles Robinson and father-in-law Andre Olsen, made final on her homestead September 6th. WHO IS THIS? Did he marry Christine in 1920? Sheridan Post no. 360 March 04, 1920, page 4 Charles Robinson, brother of Surveyor Robinson, while east visiting friends took unto himself a wife and returned with his bride Sunday. https://tinyurl.com/zul5cyw At least you have a few new names to look at. BTW, I don’t think the links are working for the Wyoming papers. Here’s a link to the main page. http://newspapers.wyo.gov/

Dear Mark, Annette and other Listers! Thank you very much for your latest messages in regard to the Severson/Jacobson family. I have been in contact with the local parish, and it now seems like the «Larsina-problem» may be solved! Here is part of the message which I received: ~~~~~ Sever A. Jacobson, born 1828, died Jan. 12, 1900 The official death record for Siver from Sibley Co., MN shows he died Jan. 2, 1899, which is correct, I don’t know! Sever Jacobson The cemetery marker reads 1828-1900 – Norwegian Grove Lutheran Cemetery There is no record of a funeral (church service) which implies he was not a member of the congregation. Inger Jacobson, his wife, born 1833, died Jan. 15, 1917 Inger Martha Jacobsen Died 14 January 1917 Burial (church service) 19 January 1917 – Norwegian Grove Lutheran Cemetery Age 84 Parents: Rasmus & Gjøri Spouse: Syvar A. Jacobsen Larsina (in Find-a-grave showing as L. A. Ena(!)), born 1831, died 1903 There are two records! – Norwegian Grove Lutheran Cemetery The church book records: Lasena Jakobsen Died 11 December 1899 and buried 13 December 1899 These dates are recorded in the recorded in the official book (but no other information) There does not appear to be a cemetery marker (is this the same as the Lasena below?) The cemetery marker says: Lasena Jacobson 1831-1903 Again, there is no record of a funeral service with this date (church service). This marker appears to be a concrete (cement) markers which was not purchased from a monument company, but rather was made on a farm. It appears to be concrete that had the dates written in it—did the one who made this just guess at the years and it is the same as the Lasena above? ~~~~~ Strange how «wrong» some of these tombstones may be; I have seen several examples of inexact dates, but FOUR YEARS off!? Maybe an official death record can be found for Larsina Gurine Jacobson in Sibley Co., MN in 1899? Thanks again to all of you for your great interest and assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane PS: By the way, it appears that Sever Jacobson’s wife Inger had a daughter Nikolina «Lena» born in Borgund Co., Norway in 1860. She emigrated with her mother and later became the wife of Louis Overson, Ole Overson’s son!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > On Jan 30, 2017, at 12:05 PM, Mark Erickson <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hei Lars, > There’s a website for the cemetery and church that has a couple of Church histories with old church records pictured. It seems like they still have the old records. Maybe you could get in touch with someone at the church? > http://bytesofhistory.org/Cemeteries/MN_NorwGrove/index.html <http://bytesofhistory.org/Cemeteries/MN_NorwGrove/index.html> > > Their website lists both Ena, L.A.; 1831 - 1903, “no plot listed” and Jacobson, Lasena; 1831 - 1903; A / 17. > > It looks like Lasena got transcribed in the records as L.A. Ena. ~~~~~ > On Jan 29, 2017, at 9:31 PM, Annette Bowen <[email protected]> wrote: > > Lars, > Sometimes I get results from contacting the person who created the > entry on findagrave. I notice that the Jacobson entries were created > by the Sibley County Historical Society and that they have a web site. > http://www.sibleycountyhistoricalmuseum.com/ > > Perhaps they would be able to help you. > > Maybe the church would have records. > > It looks like Ole Overson was prominent in the Norwegian Grove > Lutheran Church and donated land for that cemetery. > https://findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=68879462 > > Annette > > > On 1/29/17, Lars E. Oyane <[email protected]> wrote: >> Dear Mark and other Listers! >> >> New «leads» have reached me in regard to Larsine Gurine Jacobson. Someone >> from something called Minnesota genealogy group in a Face Book insisted that >> Larsine by 1895 was back in Sibley Co., MN living with her brother Sivert >> Jacobson, and as I look at Sivert’s entry, I discover a >> >> Losine(?) Jacobson, aged 64, living in the household preceding Sivert and >> Inger, apparently keeping house for Oley Overson, aged 79 >> >> The person from the Minnesota genealogy group also says that Larsine is >> buried next to Sivert in the Norwegian Grove Lutheran cemetery at Gaylord, >> MN just showing her 1st name, and I do notice at Find-a-grave this entry: >> >> L. A. Ena - born 1831, died 1903 >> >> Maybe now an exact death date can be found for her? And maybe even an >> obituary? >> >> Thanks again a million for your great assistance with the family! >> >> Very sincerely yours, >> >> Lars E. Oyane

Don, Happy that you've done that, I won't have to continue dragging them out of my spam folder now :-) Cheers Dave H. On 9 February 2017 at 05:48, Don Angevine <[email protected]> wrote: > As noted in my previous message, I have just changed my email address away > from "Yahoo.com" . . . in my case, to an account provided by my local > Internet service provider. > > Interesting to observe that the very first message I sent after the > change, came back to me from the N-List server, as it always used to do, > but had not been doing for several months. > > My messages have been showing up in the archives since it has been working > again, but they have not been returned to me, when I have initiated a > thread. > > Don in Maine USA > > > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/ > index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

It works good here also! Reina -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Dave H Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 11:14 PM To: [email protected] ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [NOR] Attention "Yahoo.com" users Don, Happy that you've done that, I won't have to continue dragging them out of my spam folder now :-) Cheers Dave H. On 9 February 2017 at 05:48, Don Angevine <[email protected]> wrote: > As noted in my previous message, I have just changed my email address away > from "Yahoo.com" . . . in my case, to an account provided by my local > Internet service provider. > > Interesting to observe that the very first message I sent after the > change, came back to me from the N-List server, as it always used to do, > but had not been doing for several months. > > My messages have been showing up in the archives since it has been > working > again, but they have not been returned to me, when I have initiated a > thread. > > Don in Maine USA > >

Dear Mark, Jerry and other Listers! Thank you very much, Mark, for sending me the Bakken obituaries from Thief River Falls, MN. They contained some very interesting facts which I need for my manuscript, but, unfortunately, there is no mention of siblings in Peter’s obituary, which was my «big» hope… Well, I guess the search has to go on… As far as the John Olson family of Towner Co., ND is concerned, I have found the family in the 1910 census. At that time this John’s wife Olea was still alive and well as an older daughter. Also the son Ole’s age is 10 years off «my» John’s son Ole so this is definitely NOT the John who was Peter’s brother… Thanks again for your wonderful assistance tracing these «elusive» emigrant families from Sogn! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~ > On Feb 8, 2017, at 5:59 PM, Mark Erickson <[email protected]> wrote: > > Found him. > > http://j.tinyurl.com/zveav3c > > > Funeral Rites Held For Peder Bakken Wednesday > > Funeral services were held Wednesday afternoon, June 18, at one o’clock > at the Erie Lutheran church for Peder O. Bakken, who died at his home in > Hickory Township Saturday evening, June 14, at the age of 82 years, 7 > months and 24 days. Rev. Bjorgun offlciated. > > Deceased was born October 20, 1847 in Sogn, Norway, coming to this > country in 1888 and settling in Halstad, Minn. In 1904 he moved to a farm > in Norden Township and in 1912 he came to Hickory township, living there > ever since. He was a resident of Pennington County for 26 years. He is > survived by two sons, Carl and Ludvig, both of Erie, eight grandchildren > and eleven great grand children. His wife and one son preceded him in > death. Interment was made in the Erie Cemetery. ~~~~~ > On Feb 8, 2017, at 4:07 PM, Mark Erickson <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hei Lars, > According to Peder’s Find-a-Grave information, he was married to an Ellen, with at least one son named Carl. > http://j.tinyurl.com/je8vqlx <http://j.tinyurl.com/je8vqlx> > > “Thief River Falls MN Times” is online from 1892 through 2002. > http://j.tinyurl.com/z2kz3su <http://j.tinyurl.com/z2kz3su> > > I didn’t see Peder’s obit, but I found one for his son Ludwig. > http://j.tinyurl.com/gohxrcn <http://j.tinyurl.com/gohxrcn> > > Ludvig Bakken 85 Interred At Park Ridge Cemetery > Funeral services for Ludvig A. Bakken, 83, who died Sunday in Norden township, Pennlngton county, at the home of his niece, Mrs. Martin Solseng, were held at 2 p.m. today (Wednesday) at Slnding’s Funeral chapel. The Rev. Herbert Larson officiated and Mrs. Arnold Hammer served as organist and soloist. > Pallbearers were Verner Arveson, Clifford Strand, Martin Solseng Jr., Larry Martinson, Marin Bakken and Milton Olson. Interment was in the Park Ridge cemetery In Norden township. > Ludwig A. Bakken was bom Oct. 2, 1880 at Sogn, Norway, a son of the late Peder and Ellen Bakken. At the age of 12 years, he Immigrated to Karistad - where he attended elementary school. He later worked in that area In the Erie community and in rural Thief. For the past 32 years he had made his home with the Martin Solseng family. He never married. > He is survived by one brother, Carl Bakken of Thief River Falls and a number of nieces and nephews. ~~~~~ > On Feb 5, 2017, at 4:40 PM, Jerry Lloyd <[email protected]> wrote: > > Name: John Olson > Age: 69 > Birth Year: abt 1851 > Birthplace: Norway > Home in 1920: Zion, Towner, North Dakota > House Number: Farm > Race: White > Gender: Male > Immigration Year: 1893 > Relation to Head of House: Head > Marital Status: Widowed > [Widow] > Father's Birthplace: Norway > Mother's Birthplace: Norway > Native Tongue: Norwegian > Able to Speak English: Yes > Occupation: Farmer > Industry: General Farm > Employment Field: Own Account > Home Owned or Rented: Own > Home Free or Mortgaged: Free > Naturalization Status: Naturalized > Able to Read: Yes > Able to Write: Yes > Neighbors: View others on page <> > Household Members: > Name Age > John Olson  <> 69 > Ole Olson  <> 29 > ~~~~~ > On Feb 5, 2017, at 9:05 AM, Lars E. Oyane <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear Jerry and other Listers! > > Thank you very much, Jerry, for your recent messages in regard to Peter O. Bakken and his siblings. > > As far as Martin Olson is concerned, he appears to be a brother of Gina Olson Peterson whose death record has been found on the find-a-grave site: > > Name: Gena Peterson > Gender: Female > Burial Date: > Burial Place: > Death Date: 27 Feb 1936 > Death Place: Harmony V., Fillmore, Minnesota > Age: 76 > Birth Date: 24 Dec 1859 > Birthplace: Norway > Occupation: H Wife > Race: White > Marital Status: Widowed > Spouse's Name: > Father's Name: Ole Sharaasen > Father's Birthplace: Norway > Mother's Name: Dorothea > Mother's Birthplace: Norway > > It could have been the sister Sigrid, born 1859, having «changed» her name to Gina, but as we see, the birthdate is 6 months off, and also parents don’t «match». Our siblings had the parents Ole Peterson Aarethun and Sigrid Andersdotter! > > So, Martin Olson is not the one we want… > > As far as Andrew Olson in Wyoming 1920 is concerned, his age is a perfect «match», but we need to «trace him back» to identify him! I notice his daughter Christine Robinson was born as: > > * Christine Olson in Webster City, Hamilton Co., IA Aug. 27, 1877, still lived in Hamilton Co., IA in 1895, but married her 1st husband Charles Schneider in Sheridan Co., WY July 15, 1896. > > However, I don’t find Christine or her father Andrew in the 1880 census!! Where are they?? Maybe someone has a better vision that I do? > > Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > On Feb 2, 2017, at 6:49 PM, Jerry Lloyd <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Andrew Olson >> in the 1920 United States Federal Census >> >> Name: >> Andrew Olson >> >> Age: >> 83 >> >> Birth Year: >> abt 1837 >> >> Birthplace: >> Norway >> >> Home in 1920: >> Clearmont, Sheridan, Wyoming >> >> Race: >> White >> >> Gender: >> Male >> >> Immigration Year: >> 1860 >> [1880] >> >> Relation to Head of House: >> Father-in-law >> >> Marital Status: >> Widowed >> [Widow] >> >> Father's Birthplace: >> Norway >> >> Mother's Birthplace: >> Norway >> >> Native Tongue: >> Norwegian >> >> Naturalization Status: >> Naturalized >> >> Neighbors: >> View others on page >> >> Charlie O Robinson 46 >> Christine Robinson 42 >> Mary Robinson 8 >> [8 1/12] >> Lillian Schneider 21 >> Andrew Olson 83 > > ~~~~~~ > >> -----Original Message----- From: Lars E. Oyane >> Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 5:23 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [NOR] Peter O. Bakken - died 1930 near Thief River Falls, MN - obituary assistance, please? >> >> Dear Listers! >> >> I have again made an interesting discovery in Minnesota, and I am wondering whether someone can help me out with an obituary for this gentleman: >> >> Peter Olson BAKKEN >> born in Laerdal Co., Norway Oct. 20, 1847 >> died near Thief River Falls, Pennington Co., MN June 14, 1930 >> >> I tried to consult the Pennington County Historical Society Homepage, which I know from earlier experience has good records of people from that County, but I am unable to enter their site!! Maybe others have better luck? >> >> I am trying quite hard to locate the whereabouts of several siblings of Peter’s in America, including: >> >> ** Andrew Olson (Aarethun), born Hafslo, Luster Co., Norway June 19, 1837, presumably emigrated in the early 1860’s >> >> ** Christen Olson (Aarethun), born Hafslo, Luster Co., Norway July 23, 1839, presumably also emigrated in the early 1860’s >> >> ** Martin(us) Olson (Aarethun), born Laerdal Co., Norway July 13, 1854, emigrated in 1875 >> >> ** Johannes (John) Olson (Aarethun or Naset), born Laerdal Co., Norway Sep. 22, 1856, emigrated widowed in 1892 with son Ole born 1880/1881 >> >> ** Sigrid Olson (Aarethun), born Laerdal Co., Norway June 10, 1859, emigrated in 1881 >> >> Several of them man have settled in Northwestern Minnesota or Eastern North Dakota!? >> >> Hopefully some of them were still alive when Peter died and are mentioned in his obituary?? >> >> Thanks a million in advance for your great assistance in this matter! >> >> Very sincerely yours, >> >> Lars E. Oyane

Thank you for that information.  I have posted a few queries to other lists lately, and I could see my query in the Archives, but never received a copy.  Nor did I get even a single response to my queries.  I know that it is possible that no one knew the answer to either question, but highly unlikely. Carol Dallas From: Don Angevine <[email protected]> To: Norway-List <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 11:48 AM Subject: [NOR] Attention "Yahoo.com" users As noted in my previous message, I have just changed my email address away from "Yahoo.com" . . . in my case, to an account provided by my local Internet service provider.   Interesting to observe that the very first message I sent after the change, came back to me from the N-List server, as it always used to do, but had not been doing for several months.   My messages have been showing up in the archives since it has been working again, but they have not been returned to me, when I have initiated a thread.   Don in Maine USA   Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Found him. http://j.tinyurl.com/zveav3c Funeral Rites Held For Peder Bakken Wednesday Funeral services were held Wednesday afternoon, June 18, at one o’clock at the Erie Lutheran church for Peder O. Bakken, who died at his home in Hickory Township Saturday evening, June 14, at the age of 82 years, 7 months and 24 days. Rev. Bjorgun offlciated. Deceased was born October 20, 1847 in Sogn, Norway, coming to this country in 1888 and settling in Halstad, Minn. In 1904 he moved to a farm in Norden Township and in 1912 he came to Hickory township, living there ever since. He was a resident of Pennington County for 26 years. He is survived by two sons, Carl and Ludvig, both of Erie, eight grandchildren and eleven great grand children. His wife and one son preceded him in death. Interment was made in the Erie Cemetery.

Hei Lars, According to Peder’s Find-a-Grave information, he was married to an Ellen, with at least one son named Carl. http://j.tinyurl.com/je8vqlx “Thief River Falls MN Times” is online from 1892 through 2002. http://j.tinyurl.com/z2kz3su I didn’t see Peder’s obit, but I found one for his son Ludwig. http://j.tinyurl.com/gohxrcn Ludvig Bakken 85 Interred At Park Ridge Cemetery Funeral services for Ludvig A. Bakken, 83, who died Sunday in Norden township, Pennlngton county, at the home of his niece, Mrs. Martin Solseng, were held at 2 p.m. today (Wednesday) at Slnding’s Funeral chapel. The Rev. Herbert Larson officiated and Mrs. Arnold Hammer served as organist and soloist. Pallbearers were Verner Arveson, Clifford Strand, Martin Solseng Jr., Larry Martinson, Marin Bakken and Milton Olson. Interment was in the Park Ridge cemetery In Norden township. Ludwig A. Bakken was bom Oct. 2, 1880 at Sogn, Norway, a son of the late Peder and Ellen Bakken. At the age of 12 years, he Immigrated to Karistad - where he attended elementary school. He later worked in that area In the Erie community and in rural Thief. For the past 32 years he had made his home with the Martin Solseng family. He never married. He is survived by one brother, Carl Bakken of Thief River Falls and a number of nieces and nephews.

As noted in my previous message, I have just changed my email address away from "Yahoo.com" . . . in my case, to an account provided by my local Internet service provider. Interesting to observe that the very first message I sent after the change, came back to me from the N-List server, as it always used to do, but had not been doing for several months. My messages have been showing up in the archives since it has been working again, but they have not been returned to me, when I have initiated a thread. Don in Maine USA

E-Mail ADDRESS CHANGE PLEASE NOTE . . . Like Bev Anderson, because of "issues" related to "yahoo.com", I am changing all of my Rootsweb Lists to an old e-mail address I have had since the beginning of my Internet experience. In fact, Rootsweb is claiming it it still in force, tho I am certain I thought it was unsubscribed some time ago. New address: < [email protected] > Thanks, Don in Maine USA

I have gotten your email, this one and the previous one notifying us of your change of address. Bev On 2/8/2017 1:48 PM, Don Angevine wrote: > As noted in my previous message, I have just changed my email address away > from "Yahoo.com" . . . in my case, to an account provided by my local > Internet service provider. > > Interesting to observe that the very first message I sent after the > change, came back to me from the N-List server, as it always used to do, > but had not been doing for several months. > > My messages have been showing up in the archives since it has been working > again, but they have not been returned to me, when I have initiated a > thread. > > Don in Maine USA >

According to FamilySearch's list of German occupations, a Schichtmeister is a mine paymaster. Nancy On Monday, February 6, 2017 6:12 AM, Halvor Stokke <[email protected]> wrote: https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/sok/1801?fornavn=&etternavn=&kjonn= &familiestilling=&sivilstand=&yrke=Schigtm%C3%A6ster&fodselsaar=&alder=&ny_h usholdning=&merknader=&type=person&bosted=&bydel=&gaardsnummer= This is from Kongsberg, so I guess somethng to do with te mining industry. Lot of german people working in the mines, and this seems to have influence on this occopation name. Halvor in Lier -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: NORWAY [mailto:[email protected]] På vegne av [email protected] Sendt: mandag 6. februar 2017 15.06 Til: [email protected] Emne: [NOR] question about occupation in 1801 In 1801 census there is an occupation mentioned:  Schigtmæster. It must have to do with an industry (iron or silver) What is a Schigtmæster? Thanks in advance Reina Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That's fantastic Halvor! Thanks a lot. It's much more clear now. Thanks Reina -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Halvor Stokke Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 5:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NOR] Fw: question about occupation in 1801 Goyt the text elow from Bergverksmuseet and tried to tanslate it .... He was an accountant/bookkeeper. Maid monthly "Skiktaccounts for evry revir/part. It were three - four parts with many mines and stamp mills. In the skikts- account " wer registered salary and other expense to materials, transportation etc, at each mine and section. Maybe not a good translation, but hope you understend. Halvor in LIer Hei, en skiktmester var en regnskapsfører. Han førte månedlige skiktregnskap for hvert revir. Det var tre - fire revirer med en rekke gruver og pukkverk. I skiktregnskapene førtes arbeidslønn og andre utgifter til materialer, kjøring m.m. ved de enkelte gruvene og andre avdelingene. Vennlig hilsen Bjørn Ivar Berg forsker Norsk Bergverksmuseum Pb. 18, 3602 Kongsberg Tel. 918 41 738 Epost [email protected] -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: NORWAY [mailto:[email protected]] På vegne av Halvor Stokke Sendt: mandag 6. februar 2017 15.25 Til: [email protected] Emne: Re: [NOR] Fw: question about occupation in 1801 I have sent the question to Norsk Bergverksmuseum at Konsberg Halvor in Lier Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Goyt the text elow from Bergverksmuseet and tried to tanslate it .... He was an accountant/bookkeeper. Maid monthly "Skiktaccounts for evry revir/part. It were three - four parts with many mines and stamp mills. In the skikts- account " wer registered salary and other expense to materials, transportation etc, at each mine and section. Maybe not a good translation, but hope you understend. Halvor in LIer Hei, en skiktmester var en regnskapsfører. Han førte månedlige skiktregnskap for hvert revir. Det var tre - fire revirer med en rekke gruver og pukkverk. I skiktregnskapene førtes arbeidslønn og andre utgifter til materialer, kjøring m.m. ved de enkelte gruvene og andre avdelingene. Vennlig hilsen Bjørn Ivar Berg forsker Norsk Bergverksmuseum Pb. 18, 3602 Kongsberg Tel. 918 41 738 Epost [email protected] -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: NORWAY [mailto:[email protected]] På vegne av Halvor Stokke Sendt: mandag 6. februar 2017 15.25 Til: [email protected] Emne: Re: [NOR] Fw: question about occupation in 1801 I have sent the question to Norsk Bergverksmuseum at Konsberg Halvor in Lier