Hello Linda, Sorry, this is the frontpage <http://www.gamlegjerpen.no/index.htm> There is also a bygdebok online. I see information for Ballestad. <http://www.gamlegjerpen.no/Bygdebok/Ballestad/BallestadGml.htm> Maybe you recognise other gards Reina -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 8:41 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NOR] Sanvik Follestad Ballestad Gjerpen records Hello Linda I like this site with information from Gjerpen records and surroundings: <http://www.gamlegjerpen.no/Kirkeb.htm> Here is the frontpage: <http://www.gamlegjerpen.no/Kilder.htm> Kind regards Reina -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 4:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NOR] Sanvik Follestad Ballestad Gjerpen records I'm searching for some data from Gjerpen, in the area of Skien on my maternal great grandfather, Erik Nilson Sanvik's side. Many questions. First, i show his birth 11.27.1863 probably at Sandvikveien, Skien but other dates have surfaced with other relatives. Also, Erik used Eric Nilson for many years upon arriving in the US, arund 1881, then adopted "Sanvik" and other variations of all these spellings, from 1896 on. We do not find where my grandmother, his first child with Barbara, was born but we do have a baptism certificate of a pastor of South Zumbro Lutheran Church. Ida Kornelia was her birth name, using Nilson as parents' last names. Questions I have: #1. Is his birth 1863? or another year? #2. what year did he return to Norway, after 1889 we know but he also returned to the US, we know in 1893 and remained the remainder of his years. I have his, and his wife and son Bennie's site on FindaGrave if any of that helps. #3. It appears that Erik's 3 sons, Palmer (1898) Bennie (1900) and Obert (1903) had no middle names. Is that odd? #4. We show Erik's father as Nils Pedersen Follestad and later Jonnevald. Is it likely he changed names as he moved? We do not see his father using Sandvik or any variation, although we think Erik was born at the Sandvikveien place in the town of Skien. #5. Is it possible to learn the place of birth of Erik's siblings, Peder, Elisa, Ingebret and Tor? We are fairly sure it is in the Gjerpen area of Telemark but not sure where. We have contact with some second cousin of my mother but they say they do not have this information, altho living in Skien. Thank you for any tips on these 5 questions. Linda in Alaska Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I know you are thorough and probably already have this information: Minnesota Death Certificate Index, Margaret Lerum: http://people.mnhs.org/finder/dci/1961-MN-000744 The Find-A-Grave web site for Greenwood Cemetery, Bemidji, Beltrami County, Minnesota has a page for Margaret Lerum, and quotes a short obituary attributed to:Bemidji Daily Pioneer, Aug 1, 1961. https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&amp;GRid=113822174 Son, Roy H. Lerum's Find-A-Grave page (no info other than his mother's name and his sister's name for Find-A-Grave links) https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=114978328 MHS Death Certificate Index: http://people.mnhs.org/finder/dci/1963-MN-000823 Daughter, Mildred H. Lerum's Find-A-Grave page, has a very short two-paragraph obit from the Bemidji paper (there is only one paper in Bemidji) https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=119648418 MHS Birth Certificate Index (NB: note misspelling on first name): http://people.mnhs.org/finder/bci/1915-01620 MHS Death Certificate Index for Joe Lerum, died 22 January 1921 (I don't know where he is buried; he may have an unmarked grave with his wife and offspring.) http://people.mnhs.org/finder/dci/1921-MN-000576 Minnesota Official Marriage Index https://www.moms.mn.gov/ (I don't know why Margaret's surname is listed as Hill.) County Certificate Number Marriage Date Applicant 1 Applicant 2 BELTRAMI C/460 04/23/1909 LERUM, JOE HILL, MARGARET Apparently neither of their children ever married. 1920 US Census, Hagali Township, Beltrami County, Minnesota https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GR6G-9K8?mode=g&i=2&cc=1488411 The transcriber got the name wrong; I enlarged the image and it is Lerum, not Larum. It has Margaret born in Norway, immigration year 1906. Son Roy is listed as born in North Dakota. On 3/28/2017 7:24 AM, Lars E. Oyane wrote: > Dear Listers, > > Researching a certain Lerum family from Luster Co., Norway I have come across a daughter-in-law whose background is very «mysterious»: > > Margaret Lerum nee Haugen, supposedly born in San Francisco, CA Oct. 4, 1883, shortly thereafter returned to Norway with her parents, only to remigrate about 1906 to Minnesota! She married Joseph Lerum and died at Bemidji, MN July 31, 1961. > > Her obituary would be most welcome! > > Thanks a million in advance for your great assistance in this matter! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > > >

Hello Linda I like this site with information from Gjerpen records and surroundings: <http://www.gamlegjerpen.no/Kirkeb.htm> Here is the frontpage: <http://www.gamlegjerpen.no/Kilder.htm> Kind regards Reina -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 4:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NOR] Sanvik Follestad Ballestad Gjerpen records I'm searching for some data from Gjerpen, in the area of Skien on my maternal great grandfather, Erik Nilson Sanvik's side. Many questions. First, i show his birth 11.27.1863 probably at Sandvikveien, Skien but other dates have surfaced with other relatives. Also, Erik used Eric Nilson for many years upon arriving in the US, arund 1881, then adopted "Sanvik" and other variations of all these spellings, from 1896 on. We do not find where my grandmother, his first child with Barbara, was born but we do have a baptism certificate of a pastor of South Zumbro Lutheran Church. Ida Kornelia was her birth name, using Nilson as parents' last names. Questions I have: #1. Is his birth 1863? or another year? #2. what year did he return to Norway, after 1889 we know but he also returned to the US, we know in 1893 and remained the remainder of his years. I have his, and his wife and son Bennie's site on FindaGrave if any of that helps. #3. It appears that Erik's 3 sons, Palmer (1898) Bennie (1900) and Obert (1903) had no middle names. Is that odd? #4. We show Erik's father as Nils Pedersen Follestad and later Jonnevald. Is it likely he changed names as he moved? We do not see his father using Sandvik or any variation, although we think Erik was born at the Sandvikveien place in the town of Skien. #5. Is it possible to learn the place of birth of Erik's siblings, Peder, Elisa, Ingebret and Tor? We are fairly sure it is in the Gjerpen area of Telemark but not sure where. We have contact with some second cousin of my mother but they say they do not have this information, altho living in Skien. Thank you for any tips on these 5 questions. Linda in Alaska

Hello Carol and Arlene, My ancestors came from Fjære and lived in Grømstad. They lived also in Landvik for ages back in time as it seems. My ancestor born 1784 in Fjære moved with her parental family to Kristiansand in 1786. Whom are you looking for in Fjære? Kind regards Reina -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Arlene Camp Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 8:57 PM To: 'Carol Dallas' ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [NOR] Tromøy, Arendal, Grimstad, Fjære? My great grandfather was born on Tromøy on the Markevig farm. His mother was most likely a servant and had an affair with a Danish sailor. My great grandfather was illegitimate. I think his grandfather ended up raising him. I've got a couple of reasons for believing that which I won't go into. Someone in Norway told me that there is a Tromøy Bygdebok. I tried to get a copy of it through inter-library loan, but was unable to get a copy in the United States. There is a copy of it on-line, but it's all in Norwegian. However, the person who told me about the Bygdebok said he could find nothing about the Markevig farm. My great-great grandmother probably had her baby (my great grandfather) and then went back to live with her parents. Her parents lived in Austre Møland. He was baptized in the Austre Møland Parish. I did do research on Arendal. My grandfather changed his last name first to Christian Andersen-Leth and finally to Christian Leth. I don't think any of his descendants in the United States knew that he was born as Christian Andersen. He was confirmed in the Arendal church as Christian Andersen. My research in Arendal consisted of looking for the Leth connection. At that point I wasn't sure that Christian Andersen was my great grandfather. I did learn that there were a lot of prominent people in Arendal with the last name of Leth. Maybe my great grandfather lived with one of them, and they gave him permission to take their last name. I don't think I'll ever know. Someone from the Arendal archives sent me copies of information on different Leth families. It was all in Norwegian, I didn't know anyone who could read Norwegian. When I learned for sure that Christian Andersen was really Christian Leth, I discarded all the information on the Leth's. Now I know people that can read Norwegian, and I'm sorry I discarded everytihing. The passports were issued to Christian Andersen Leth. Arlene -----Original Message----- From: NORWAY [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carol Dallas Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 8:01 AM To: Norway List Subject: [NOR] Tromøy, Arendal, Grimstad, Fjære? Is there anyone on this list who has been researching ancestors from these areas of Norway? My ancestors lived in these areas in the 1800s, and the family farm/home is still there. One of my "cousins" is still living in Arendal. I have tracked one of my lines back to about 1750, but so far have never met anyone else researching these areas. Regards, Carol Dallas

Is there a difference between dairy maid with goats and dairy maid with cows? Because I noticed that there are 2 sets of terms and since I don't speak even one word of Norwegian, I must ask the experts. Leslie Quist ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clark Pederson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; "Norway-List" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 11:45 PM Subject: Re: [NOR] Translation > "Meierske" = Dairymaid (or so I've been told...;-) ) > Trust you are well, Master Chief! > Da Chief in Japan > > On 28-Mar-17 3:35 AM, Cliff Magnussen wrote: >> Going through the 1900 census I found a occupation I can’t find a good >> translation for, >> Could some one please translate “Meierske” for me…. >> >> Mange takk, >> >> Cliff M >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >> >> Norwaylist >> Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway >> >> RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html >> >> guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > Norwaylist > Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Listers, Researching a certain Lerum family from Luster Co., Norway I have come across a daughter-in-law whose background is very «mysterious»: Margaret Lerum nee Haugen, supposedly born in San Francisco, CA Oct. 4, 1883, shortly thereafter returned to Norway with her parents, only to remigrate about 1906 to Minnesota! She married Joseph Lerum and died at Bemidji, MN July 31, 1961. Her obituary would be most welcome! Thanks a million in advance for your great assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane

I don't know sources others have. Haugen's Norwegian-American Dictionary has: meierske = dairymaid [spelled as one word] meierest = dairyman [spelled as one word] meieri / smør = (dairy-made) butter The terms are not in Otto's Dictionary. Haugen's Norwegian-American Dictionary has: budeie = dairy maid, milkmaid [dairy maid as two words] bu / drått = the output of milk products (butter, cheese) on a farm. Otto's Dictionary has: budeie = milkmaid. I see the two meieri (dairy) occupation terms are sex-specific to whether or not a man or woman is doing the tasks. Would meierske cover the summer occupation of taking cows or goats to the high mountain pastures where it seems to have been most often women who lived in the seter (old spelling saeter) who turned the milk and/or cream into cheese or butter? Obviously, a meierest could do the same thing, but I remember reading something long ago that women often made the cheese or butter at summer seters, and some women had local renown for making good cheese (only I can't remember this second where I read it, only that I read it many years ago). I'm thinking of the imported Norwegian geitost (goat cheese) I buy at the local delicatessen. It's sweet and oh-so-delicious! Years ago my Norwegian teacher said the sweet version was made differently, and that one had to acquire a taste "for real goat's cheese" which isn't sweet. The brand name on this one is spelled Gjetost, and this semi-soft cheese (at room temperature) practically melts in one's mouth. I cut off little pieces and eat it with or without waverly crackers sometimes if I'm watching a video online (where I now watch all TV shows since I am not much of a television fan and only keep track of a very few shows). http://www.snofrisk.com/products/ski-queen Bev On 3/28/2017 4:54 AM, Ingrid Kjønnøy wrote: > Dairymaid, well. The ones who worked in the barns and milked the cows, were called "budeie". A "meierske" worked with milk and milk products in a "meieri". Two different terms in Norwegian because these were different tasks. Do you only have "dairymaid" in English? > Ingrid > > Sendt frå paddå mi > >> Den 28. mar. 2017 kl. 08.45 skrev Clark Pederson <[email protected]>: >> >> "Meierske" = Dairymaid (or so I've been told...;-) ) >> Trust you are well, Master Chief! >> Da Chief in Japan >> >>> On 28-Mar-17 3:35 AM, Cliff Magnussen wrote: >>> Going through the 1900 census I found a occupation I can’t find a good translation for, >>> Could some one please translate “Meierske” for me…. >>> >>> Mange takk, >>> >>> Cliff M >>>

My thanks to all the kind folks here on the NorwayList. I am especially grateful for the help provided by Bev, Don and Reina to better help me understand the birth/baptism record for Anne Olsdatter. I am glad to read that you too thought the writing was just "awful." Let me apologize for sending the wrong link and now I better understand the link that works best for those who want to help. "Quick link" it is for my future requests. Thank you too for the record to look at on FamilySearch showing Anne Olsdatter [Anne Olesdatter]. I am pleased to learn that her father, Ole Johnsen was a farmer. Now I'll try to learn the specific kind he was by looking for further definition of plassbruger and lodbruger [lotbruger]. Your help was very much appreciate. Best regards, Darlene

Linda, Erik's birth and baptism are shown at the following link: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/5990/30763/85 Born 27 November 1863, baptized 28 February 1864.  Entry number 16. Greg Holter From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 2:41 PM Subject: [NOR] Sanvik Follestad Ballestad Gjerpen records I'm searching for some data from Gjerpen, in the area of Skien on my maternal great grandfather, Erik Nilson Sanvik's side. Many questions.  First, i show his birth 11.27.1863 probably at Sandvikveien, Skien but other dates have surfaced with other relatives. Also, Erik used Eric Nilson for many years upon arriving in the US, arund 1881, then adopted "Sanvik" and other variations of all these spellings, from 1896 on. We do not find where my grandmother, his first child with Barbara, was born but we do have a baptism certificate of a pastor of South Zumbro Lutheran Church.  Ida Kornelia was her birth name, using Nilson as parents' last names. Questions I have: #1.  Is his birth 1863?  or another year? #2.  what year did he return to Norway, after 1889 we know but he also returned to the US, we know in 1893 and remained the remainder of his years. I have his, and his wife and son Bennie's site on FindaGrave if any of that helps. #3.  It appears that Erik's 3 sons, Palmer (1898) Bennie (1900) and Obert (1903) had no middle names.  Is that odd? #4.  We show Erik's father as Nils Pedersen Follestad and later Jonnevald.  Is it likely he changed names as he moved?  We do not see his father using Sandvik or any variation, although we think Erik was born at the Sandvikveien place in the town of Skien. #5.  Is it possible to learn the place of birth of Erik's siblings, Peder, Elisa, Ingebret and Tor?  We are fairly sure it is in the Gjerpen area of Telemark but not sure where. We have contact with some second cousin of my mother but they say they do not have this information, altho living in Skien. Thank you for any tips on these 5 questions. Linda in Alaska

The 1875 census for them is at this link: http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1875&knr=0806&kenr=004&bnr=0072&lnr=00 From: Gregory Holter <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [NOR] Sanvik Follestad Ballestad Gjerpen records Linda, The information below appears to be the family in the 1865 census in the city of Skien.  I suspect Sandvikveien is a street in Skien.  Note that this information agrees that Erik and his brother Peder were born in Skien but that his parents and Erik's older sister were born in Gjerpen. I would suggest you look in the church books in Skien to find/confirm Erik's date of birth.       - Census year: 1865   - Municipality: Skien   - Municipality number: 0806   - Street name:   - Street number: 374 429   - City district:   - House owner: Nils Pedersen   - Number of flats: 3 Number of persons in this domicile: 12 |  | Name | Family status | Marital status | Occupation | Birth year | Place of birth | Ethnicity | |  | Nils Pedersen | Huusfader | g | Møllerkjører | 1828 | Gjerpens Prgj. |  | |  | Christiane Eriksdatter | hans Kone | g |  | 1834 | Gjerpens Prgj. |  | |  | Elise Dorthea Nilsdatter | Deres Datter | ug |  | 1859 | Gjerpens Prgj. |  | |  | Peder Nilsen | Deres Søn | ug |  | 1860 | Skien |  | |  | Erik Nilsen | Deres Søn | ug |  | 1864 | Skien |  | |  | Anne Kirstine Abrahamsen | Huusmoder | e |  | 1817 | Skien |  | |  | Oline Nilsdatter | hendes Datter | ug |  | 1849 | Skien |  | |  | Johanne Dorthea Nilsdatter | hendes Datter | ug |  | 1851 | Skien |  | |  | Carl Christian Nilsen | hendes Søn | ug |  | 1853 | Skien |  | |  | Abraham Nilsen | hendes Søn | ug |  | 1857 | Skien |  | |  | Ingeborg Nilsdatter | Huusmoder | e |  | 1798 | Bamble Prgj. |  | |  | Nils Anthonisen | hendes Søn | ug | Arbeidsmand | 1823 | Skien |  | Greg Holter       From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 2:41 PM Subject: [NOR] Sanvik Follestad Ballestad Gjerpen records   I'm searching for some data from Gjerpen, in the area of Skien on my maternal great grandfather, Erik Nilson Sanvik's side. Many questions.  First, i show his birth 11.27.1863 probably at Sandvikveien, Skien but other dates have surfaced with other relatives. Also, Erik used Eric Nilson for many years upon arriving in the US, arund 1881, then adopted "Sanvik" and other variations of all these spellings, from 1896 on. We do not find where my grandmother, his first child with Barbara, was born but we do have a baptism certificate of a pastor of South Zumbro Lutheran Church.  Ida Kornelia was her birth name, using Nilson as parents' last names. Questions I have: #1.  Is his birth 1863?  or another year? #2.  what year did he return to Norway, after 1889 we know but he also returned to the US, we know in 1893 and remained the remainder of his years. I have his, and his wife and son Bennie's site on FindaGrave if any of that helps. #3.  It appears that Erik's 3 sons, Palmer (1898) Bennie (1900) and Obert (1903) had no middle names.  Is that odd? #4.  We show Erik's father as Nils Pedersen Follestad and later Jonnevald.  Is it likely he changed names as he moved?  We do not see his father using Sandvik or any variation, although we think Erik was born at the Sandvikveien place in the town of Skien. #5.  Is it possible to learn the place of birth of Erik's siblings, Peder, Elisa, Ingebret and Tor?  We are fairly sure it is in the Gjerpen area of Telemark but not sure where. We have contact with some second cousin of my mother but they say they do not have this information, altho living in Skien. Thank you for any tips on these 5 questions. Linda in Alaska

Linda, The information below appears to be the family in the 1865 census in the city of Skien.  I suspect Sandvikveien is a street in Skien.  Note that this information agrees that Erik and his brother Peder were born in Skien but that his parents and Erik's older sister were born in Gjerpen. I would suggest you look in the church books in Skien to find/confirm Erik's date of birth.   - Census year: 1865 - Municipality: Skien - Municipality number: 0806 - Street name: - Street number: 374 429 - City district: - House owner: Nils Pedersen - Number of flats: 3 Number of persons in this domicile: 12 | | Name | Family status | Marital status | Occupation | Birth year | Place of birth | Ethnicity | | | Nils Pedersen | Huusfader | g | Møllerkjører | 1828 | Gjerpens Prgj. | | | | Christiane Eriksdatter | hans Kone | g | | 1834 | Gjerpens Prgj. | | | | Elise Dorthea Nilsdatter | Deres Datter | ug | | 1859 | Gjerpens Prgj. | | | | Peder Nilsen | Deres Søn | ug | | 1860 | Skien | | | | Erik Nilsen | Deres Søn | ug | | 1864 | Skien | | | | Anne Kirstine Abrahamsen | Huusmoder | e | | 1817 | Skien | | | | Oline Nilsdatter | hendes Datter | ug | | 1849 | Skien | | | | Johanne Dorthea Nilsdatter | hendes Datter | ug | | 1851 | Skien | | | | Carl Christian Nilsen | hendes Søn | ug | | 1853 | Skien | | | | Abraham Nilsen | hendes Søn | ug | | 1857 | Skien | | | | Ingeborg Nilsdatter | Huusmoder | e | | 1798 | Bamble Prgj. | | | | Nils Anthonisen | hendes Søn | ug | Arbeidsmand | 1823 | Skien | | Greg Holter From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 2:41 PM Subject: [NOR] Sanvik Follestad Ballestad Gjerpen records I'm searching for some data from Gjerpen, in the area of Skien on my maternal great grandfather, Erik Nilson Sanvik's side. Many questions.  First, i show his birth 11.27.1863 probably at Sandvikveien, Skien but other dates have surfaced with other relatives. Also, Erik used Eric Nilson for many years upon arriving in the US, arund 1881, then adopted "Sanvik" and other variations of all these spellings, from 1896 on. We do not find where my grandmother, his first child with Barbara, was born but we do have a baptism certificate of a pastor of South Zumbro Lutheran Church.  Ida Kornelia was her birth name, using Nilson as parents' last names. Questions I have: #1.  Is his birth 1863?  or another year? #2.  what year did he return to Norway, after 1889 we know but he also returned to the US, we know in 1893 and remained the remainder of his years. I have his, and his wife and son Bennie's site on FindaGrave if any of that helps. #3.  It appears that Erik's 3 sons, Palmer (1898) Bennie (1900) and Obert (1903) had no middle names.  Is that odd? #4.  We show Erik's father as Nils Pedersen Follestad and later Jonnevald.  Is it likely he changed names as he moved?  We do not see his father using Sandvik or any variation, although we think Erik was born at the Sandvikveien place in the town of Skien. #5.  Is it possible to learn the place of birth of Erik's siblings, Peder, Elisa, Ingebret and Tor?  We are fairly sure it is in the Gjerpen area of Telemark but not sure where. We have contact with some second cousin of my mother but they say they do not have this information, altho living in Skien. Thank you for any tips on these 5 questions. Linda in Alaska

A woman who worked in a dairy (meieri). OK? Ingrid -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: NORWAY [mailto:[email protected]] På vegne av Bev Anderson Sendt: 27. mars 2017 20:42 Til: [email protected] Emne: Re: [NOR] Translation My Haugen's Norwegian-English Dictionary says a meierske is a 'dairymaid.' There are no secondary meanings listed, just 'dairymaid.' Bev On 3/27/2017 1:35 PM, Cliff Magnussen wrote: > Going through the 1900 census I found a occupation I can’t find a good > translation for, Could some one please translate “Meierske” for me…. > > Mange takk, > > Cliff M

She is working in the dairy, or milking cows. Best wishes from Hanne ________________________________ Fra: NORWAY <[email protected]> på vegne av Cliff Magnussen <[email protected]> Sendt: 27. mars 2017 20:35 Til: Norway-List Emne: [NOR] Translation Going through the 1900 census I found a occupation I can’t find a good translation for, Could some one please translate “Meierske” for me…. Mange takk, Cliff M Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html RootsWeb: Genealogy Mailing Lists: Norway : NORWAY<http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html> lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in Norway. Additional information can be found on the Norway List Web Site below: guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm [http://rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/_heart5.jpg]<http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm> Norway List Guidelines - RootsWeb.com Home Page<http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm> www.rootsweb.ancestry.com Norway List Guidelines Karla Halsan Mattila - Listowner Write me anytime at [email protected] Warnings: This list is not just genealogy. It also includes ... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tools Ancestry Barbara Eidem 1875–1963 Birth 1875-02-12 • Eidem,Selbu,,Norway Death 1963-05-21 • Kasson,,Minnesota,USA LifeStory Facts Gallery Navigation Research Tabs Facts Name and gender Birth 1875-02-12 • Eidem,Selbu,,Norway 1875 (AGE) Marriage 1893-12-20 • Canisteo Dodge,,Minnesota,USA  Eric Nilsen Sanvik (1864–1943) 1893 18 Death 1963-05-21 • Kasson,,Minnesota,USA 1963 88 Skip to Family Sources Ancestry Sources  Ancestry Family Trees Skip to Facts Family Parents  Bardo Anderson Eidem 1850–1931  Ingeborg Petersdatter Ellevollslokken 1848–1928 Spouse & Children  Eric Nilsen Sanvik 1864–1943  Ida Sanvik 1894–1972  Nora Sanvik 1896–1977  Palmer Sanvik 1898–1995  Benny Sanvik 1900–1992  Obert Sanvik 1903–1981  Ester Sanvik 1906–  Clara Sanvik 1908–1991 Tena Constance Sanvik 1911–1984 Comments Close Comments Support Center Ancestry Blog Site Map Gift Memberships Careers Visit our other sites:United StatesUnited KingdomCanada (English)Canada (Français)AustraliaDeutschlandItaliaFranceSverigeMéxicoAncestry CorporateAncestry.ie CorporateFamilyTreeMaker.comFold3.comMyCanvas.comNewspapers.comProGenealogists.comRootsWeb.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 4:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NOR] Sanvik Follestad Ballestad Gjerpen records I'm searching for some data from Gjerpen, in the area of Skien on my maternal great grandfather, Erik Nilson Sanvik's side. Many questions. First, i show his birth 11.27.1863 probably at Sandvikveien, Skien but other dates have surfaced with other relatives. Also, Erik used Eric Nilson for many years upon arriving in the US, arund 1881, then adopted "Sanvik" and other variations of all these spellings, from 1896 on. We do not find where my grandmother, his first child with Barbara, was born but we do have a baptism certificate of a pastor of South Zumbro Lutheran Church. Ida Kornelia was her birth name, using Nilson as parents' last names. Questions I have: #1. Is his birth 1863? or another year? #2. what year did he return to Norway, after 1889 we know but he also returned to the US, we know in 1893 and remained the remainder of his years. I have his, and his wife and son Bennie's site on FindaGrave if any of that helps. #3. It appears that Erik's 3 sons, Palmer (1898) Bennie (1900) and Obert (1903) had no middle names. Is that odd? #4. We show Erik's father as Nils Pedersen Follestad and later Jonnevald. Is it likely he changed names as he moved? We do not see his father using Sandvik or any variation, although we think Erik was born at the Sandvikveien place in the town of Skien. #5. Is it possible to learn the place of birth of Erik's siblings, Peder, Elisa, Ingebret and Tor? We are fairly sure it is in the Gjerpen area of Telemark but not sure where. We have contact with some second cousin of my mother but they say they do not have this information, altho living in Skien. Thank you for any tips on these 5 questions. Linda in Alaska Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tools Ancestry  Eric Nilsen Sanvik 1864–1943 Birth 27 NOV 1864 • Skien, Norway Death 19 JAN 1943 • Kasson, , Minnesota, USA -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 4:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NOR] Sanvik Follestad Ballestad Gjerpen records I'm searching for some data from Gjerpen, in the area of Skien on my maternal great grandfather, Erik Nilson Sanvik's side. Many questions. First, i show his birth 11.27.1863 probably at Sandvikveien, Skien but other dates have surfaced with other relatives. Also, Erik used Eric Nilson for many years upon arriving in the US, arund 1881, then adopted "Sanvik" and other variations of all these spellings, from 1896 on. We do not find where my grandmother, his first child with Barbara, was born but we do have a baptism certificate of a pastor of South Zumbro Lutheran Church. Ida Kornelia was her birth name, using Nilson as parents' last names. Questions I have: #1. Is his birth 1863? or another year? #2. what year did he return to Norway, after 1889 we know but he also returned to the US, we know in 1893 and remained the remainder of his years. I have his, and his wife and son Bennie's site on FindaGrave if any of that helps. #3. It appears that Erik's 3 sons, Palmer (1898) Bennie (1900) and Obert (1903) had no middle names. Is that odd? #4. We show Erik's father as Nils Pedersen Follestad and later Jonnevald. Is it likely he changed names as he moved? We do not see his father using Sandvik or any variation, although we think Erik was born at the Sandvikveien place in the town of Skien. #5. Is it possible to learn the place of birth of Erik's siblings, Peder, Elisa, Ingebret and Tor? We are fairly sure it is in the Gjerpen area of Telemark but not sure where. We have contact with some second cousin of my mother but they say they do not have this information, altho living in Skien. Thank you for any tips on these 5 questions. Linda in Alaska Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

ooooooohhhhhhh :} ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Ferman" <[email protected]> To: "Rootsweb Norway" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 12:23:00 PM Subject: [NOR] Todays Joke Little Ole was talking to his grandpa one day. “Grampa Olsen, vat position dew yew play on da football team?” “I’m tew old tew play football, Little Ole,” his grandpa replied. “Dat’s funny,” said Little Ole, “Papa said ve could afford tew go on vacation as soon as yew kicked off.” Sent from my iPad John Ferman Minneapolis, MN Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm searching for some data from Gjerpen, in the area of Skien on my maternal great grandfather, Erik Nilson Sanvik's side. Many questions. First, i show his birth 11.27.1863 probably at Sandvikveien, Skien but other dates have surfaced with other relatives. Also, Erik used Eric Nilson for many years upon arriving in the US, arund 1881, then adopted "Sanvik" and other variations of all these spellings, from 1896 on. We do not find where my grandmother, his first child with Barbara, was born but we do have a baptism certificate of a pastor of South Zumbro Lutheran Church. Ida Kornelia was her birth name, using Nilson as parents' last names. Questions I have: #1. Is his birth 1863? or another year? #2. what year did he return to Norway, after 1889 we know but he also returned to the US, we know in 1893 and remained the remainder of his years. I have his, and his wife and son Bennie's site on FindaGrave if any of that helps. #3. It appears that Erik's 3 sons, Palmer (1898) Bennie (1900) and Obert (1903) had no middle names. Is that odd? #4. We show Erik's father as Nils Pedersen Follestad and later Jonnevald. Is it likely he changed names as he moved? We do not see his father using Sandvik or any variation, although we think Erik was born at the Sandvikveien place in the town of Skien. #5. Is it possible to learn the place of birth of Erik's siblings, Peder, Elisa, Ingebret and Tor? We are fairly sure it is in the Gjerpen area of Telemark but not sure where. We have contact with some second cousin of my mother but they say they do not have this information, altho living in Skien. Thank you for any tips on these 5 questions. Linda in Alaska

Is there anyone on this list who has been researching ancestors from these areas of Norway?  My ancestors lived in these areas in the 1800s, and the family farm/home is still there.  One of my "cousins" is still living in Arendal. I have tracked one of my lines back to about 1750, but so far have never met anyone else researching these areas. Regards, Carol Dallas

My Haugen's Norwegian-English Dictionary says a meierske is a 'dairymaid.' There are no secondary meanings listed, just 'dairymaid.' Bev On 3/27/2017 1:35 PM, Cliff Magnussen wrote: > Going through the 1900 census I found a occupation I can’t find a good translation for, > Could some one please translate “Meierske” for me…. > > Mange takk, > > Cliff M > Sent from Mail for Windows 10

My great grandfather was born on Tromøy on the Markevig farm. His mother was most likely a servant and had an affair with a Danish sailor. My great grandfather was illegitimate. I think his grandfather ended up raising him. I've got a couple of reasons for believing that which I won't go into. Someone in Norway told me that there is a Tromøy Bygdebok. I tried to get a copy of it through inter-library loan, but was unable to get a copy in the United States. There is a copy of it on-line, but it's all in Norwegian. However, the person who told me about the Bygdebok said he could find nothing about the Markevig farm. My great-great grandmother probably had her baby (my great grandfather) and then went back to live with her parents. Her parents lived in Austre Møland. He was baptized in the Austre Møland Parish. I did do research on Arendal. My grandfather changed his last name first to Christian Andersen-Leth and finally to Christian Leth. I don't think any of his descendants in the United States knew that he was born as Christian Andersen. He was confirmed in the Arendal church as Christian Andersen. My research in Arendal consisted of looking for the Leth connection. At that point I wasn't sure that Christian Andersen was my great grandfather. I did learn that there were a lot of prominent people in Arendal with the last name of Leth. Maybe my great grandfather lived with one of them, and they gave him permission to take their last name. I don't think I'll ever know. Someone from the Arendal archives sent me copies of information on different Leth families. It was all in Norwegian, I didn't know anyone who could read Norwegian. When I learned for sure that Christian Andersen was really Christian Leth, I discarded all the information on the Leth's. Now I know people that can read Norwegian, and I'm sorry I discarded everytihing. The passports were issued to Christian Andersen Leth. Arlene -----Original Message----- From: NORWAY [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carol Dallas Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 8:01 AM To: Norway List Subject: [NOR] Tromøy, Arendal, Grimstad, Fjære? Is there anyone on this list who has been researching ancestors from these areas of Norway? My ancestors lived in these areas in the 1800s, and the family farm/home is still there. One of my "cousins" is still living in Arendal. I have tracked one of my lines back to about 1750, but so far have never met anyone else researching these areas. Regards, Carol Dallas Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message