If any one has the ability to assist me, I'm searching for the exact birth and death dates, and place of burial for one: Clayton Marshall Hubbanrd He was born in Wisconsin in 1902 per hand-written family records, and died age 57 in 1961 but the math is slightly off His parents were Mary Alice and Charles Hubbard Thank you for any tips! Linda in Alaska

Hi Lars, This one is from the first newspaper. Newspaper: Norwalk Daily Reflector; 29 Apr 1893; Page: 1 Terribly Mangled. Cleveland , April 29.—Oscar Oakes, a boarding house keeper at 419 Willson avenue, was struck and instantly killed by Lake Shore passenger train No. 5 yesterday, while he was walking on the tracks. The man’s head was torn off and the body terribly mangled. He left a wife, but no children. The remains were taken to the morgue. I don’t have access to the dates needed for the Akron Beacon Journal. -Thanks! Mark Erickson

Hello Judi, Yes this is mostly possible to do research before 1801, although some churchbooks are hard to read. But first we have to know if the people here below mentioned from 1801 census are the right ones. I could not find the wedding in the churchrecords of Peder Pedersen from Furrebø + Massi Odgertsdr And the baptism of Their son Peder Pedersen in 1816 still must be found. I do not know what information is in the bygdebook you have read. Bygdebooks are secondairy information and one must always check this information with the churchrecords. Best whishes Reina -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Judi Burton Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 9:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NOR] Need help with Norwegian Ancestry Records | Reina, THANK YOU FOR THIS... I am so happy to know this. Question: Is it possible to research records before: 1801 census for my great great grandfather from in Furbø (Furrebø) from Førde? If so, how? I am certain I would have to ask to good research team here... thoughts? I am so grateful for this.....Best wishes, Judi On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 10:02 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Judi, > > Question: > > Marriage of the Peder Pedersen (Dale) Records: > - Great great great grandfather: Peder Pedersen* Furbø from Førde B. > 1791 D. 1867 > Wife: Madsi Oddgjertsdtr. Tjønneland B. 1787 D. 1862 > > > Answer: > > This must be Massie Odgiersdr b 1790. They lived Tiønneland, Førde parish, > Sogn og Fjordane > > 1801 census > Odgier Olsen 60 Manden Givt 1ste gang Gaardmand > 020 04 Kari Olsdatter 53 Hans kone Givt 1ste gang > 021 04 Ole Odgiersen 13 Deres børn Ugivt > 022 04 Oline Odgiersdatter 23 Deres børn Ugivt > 023 04 Mari Odgiersdatter 18 Deres børn Ugivt > 024 04 Massie Odgiersdatter 11 Deres børn Ugivt > > > <https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01058404000776> > > And this must be Peder Pedersen in Furbø (Furrebø) from Førde > > 1801 census Furrebøe in Førde parish > > <https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01058404000739> > > Peder Olsen Manden Han i 2dt og hun i første egteskab Gaardmand > Alet Odgiersdatter 46 Hans kone Han i 2dt og hun i første egteskab > Ole Pedersen 12 Deres børn > Peder Pedersen 4 Deres børn > Anna Marir Pedersdatter 9 Deres børn > > > I suppose you can (must) check this censusinformation with the information > in the bygdebok. > > I have tried to read the churchrecords, but hard to find those people in > the churchrecords. > > Reina >

Dear Listers! I have again found an obituary reference which I cannot quite make out. But since it is on ancestry, I hope that someone can help me find it? Ingeborg «Emma» Johnson from Luster Co., Norway married in Cleveland, OH in 1882 this gentleman: Oscar Oakes, for whom I find the following entry: Name: Oscar Oakes Death Date: 28 Apr 1893 Death Place: Cleveland, Ohio Newspaper Information: Newspaper: Norwalk Daily Reflector; Newspaper Date: 29 Apr 1893; Newspaper Page: 1 Column: 4; Repository: Hayes Presidential Library - Fremont, OH; Years Available: 1882-1892 Newspaper Information: Newspaper: Akron Beacon Journal Series; Newspaper Date: 29 Apr 1893; Newspaper Page: 3 Column: 5; Repository: Akron-Summit County Public Library; Years Available: 1841-51, 1860-1865, 1870, 1873-1884, 1886-1888 I would be very interested in reading what it says about Oscar and wish to thank you very much in advance for helping me out in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane

Hi Jim, I can't understand what I've done, but I do remember going into Hirsch's Fortegnelse over Danske og Norske Officers and finding my family there - but I thought I would go into it again this morning, so I could give you the link and I seem to come up with Archives instead - if my brain clicks back into place, then I will let you know, but I do know I printed all the family names out only a week or so ago and now have them in a plastic folder so I can go through them. The prints show Arkivalieronline at the top and show Forsvarets Arkiver, Arkivskabte Hjælpedmidler Hirsch' kartotek over danske og norske officerer - I have pages 108-127 but, as I say, I can't remember how I did it - but I have no doubt it will come back to me in time. In the meantime, perhaps you can access it, as I feel you are more experienced in these things than I am. Unfortunately everyone says these little memory losses as due to 'old age' - how dare they! Confusion still reigns though as I read yet another article which showed that a Fenrik back in 1690 would have been a young boy from a military academy and that seems to fit in with the age shown when my 7x g.grandfather died in 1740 - he was buried in the aisle of Garnisons Kirke in København and his age at death was shown as 63. However, I was told that in Ovenstad's it shows him as born in Germany - Sergeant in Bøynenbourg's infantry regiment 30 March 1689. Hirsch's show him as born in Mark Brandenburg and Fenrik (or Ensign) in the same infantry regiment in 1690 - one of the records must be wrong. But I won't give up! Thank you so much for all your help! Regards, Melva ------ Original Message ------ From: "Jim Wiborg" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: 19/04/2017 6:09:26 AM Subject: Re: [NOR] Boynenbourg's regiment in 1690 >Melva, > > >This is why I follow the Norway list - I often learn things! For >example, >you mentioned Hirsch’s! Thanks! > > >Do you have an online link to Hirsch’s, *Fortegnelse over Danske og >Norske >Offiserer 1648-1814*? I’d love to have such a link (or know where to >buy/borrow/steal a copy/DVD)! > > >––––––––––––––––––––––––– > > >Then you mention “I am not all that good with rankings and get quite >confused…" > > >I’m still quite confused myself and get more so with each passing year, >so >I understand confusion… > > >But (in a case of the blind trying to lead those who can see) here are >some >quick thoughts on Dano-Norwegian Army military ranks (1690 through >1800) >that might help with genealogy research a little… > > >I caution that this isn’t carefully researched (more stream of >consciousness this morning) but it is useful to me to write it out for >my >own use, so… > >––––––––––––––––––––––––– > > > >The basic building block of the Dano-Norwegian Army (or any other army >throughout Europe at the time) consisted of companies of about 100-200 >men. > > > >A number of Dano-Norwegian officers served in armies elsewhere in >Europe >before winding up in Norway (e.g., oberst von Boynenbourg was clearly >not >Norwegian) so they learned from one another. > > >A sample military company (picked out of 1688 because that’s the >closest I >found to your 1690) consisted, from the top down, of: > > >OFFICERS > > 1 Captain – commanding officer of a company (some companies were led >by >premier lieutenants) > > 1 Lieutenant – second in command > > 1 Fenrik (or fænrik) - a trainee (similar to a midshipman in the US >Navy, so not quite an officer, but in training to be one so if he does >well, he’ll become one) > > >ENLISTED > > 1 Master Sergeant – the senior enlisted man, typically a guy with >leadership skills who could motivate and keep order amongst the men > > 2 Sergeants – platoon leaders (a platoon was ~ 30-to-40 men) > > 4 Corporals – squad leaders (a squad was ~8 to 12 men) – squads make >up >platoons > > 10 senior soldiers – led a small team (what is now called a fire >team) – >teams make up squads > > 2 drummers – typically boys – different drum rolls conveyed orders >from >officers to troops during combat – two are handy in case you lose one >in >combat > > 115 Common soldiers – reported to senior soldiers/corporals as >member of >team > > > >––––––––––––––––––––––––– > > > >You’ll notice that military structure provides a certain amount of >redundancy (e.g., an executive officer backs up a commanding officer & >similarly there are several drummers). You expect to lose men in >combat >and have built in replacements throughout the chain of command to keep >the >company in the field & combat effective. > > >––––––––––––––––––––––––– > > > >Men with exceptional skills could see exceptional upward mobility >(especially in periods of combat). I’m aware of at least one man who >proceeded up from common soldier to colonel over a 7 year period. > > >That said, an officer had to have both leadership skills & the ability >to >read & write well (reading & writing was a bit rarer back then). Since >this >required education, you often see the army career descend in a family >(military sons of military fathers). For example I know of 3 sons of >an >officer who became officers, and several of his grandsons were also >officers. > > >Daughters of officers tend to marry officers as well. So looking for >military descendants among the military is sometimes useful. Ovenstad >has a >book on Military officer's wives as well - can find it in google books. > > > >––––––––––––––––––––––––– > > > >Companies were assembled into Regiments composed of perhaps 8 to 20 >companies (roughly 1000 men), typically commanded by an Oberst >(Colonel) or >General. The Regiments commanding officer would have a staff >consisting of: > > 1 Second in command – typically a colonel or major > > 2 or 3 Staff officers – typically majors or captains > > > >––––––––––––––––––––––––– > >At the time (and probably later as well) these regiments were >structured >into armies north of the Dovrefjeld & south of the Dovrefjeld. This was >a >response to the difficulty in communication over such a distance at >that >time. > > > >And they all came together in reporting to the “Statholder” – in 1690 >that >was Ulrich Friderich Gyldneløve – who provided top level command. > > > >––––––––––––––––––––––––– > > >Officers might be billeted on farms designated for that purpose, but >were >well paid by the standards of the day & typically bought farms in the >vicinity of their command. > > >Officers tend to be both easier & harder to track through history. On >the >plus side, they appear in military records and also often own land, >which >shows in the civil records. On the minus side, they may move more >frequently than others. > > > >––––––––––––––––––––––––– > > >Puzzling over history is part of the pleasure of seeking family >history. >Thanks for letting me think about this topic this morning. > > >Best – Jim > > >––––––––––––––––––––––––– > > >*From:* Melva Maguire <[email protected] ><https://mail.google.com/mail/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&[email protected]> >> >*Subject:* Re: [NOR] Boynenbourg's regiment in 1690 >*Date:* Tue, 18 Apr 2017 01:14:21 +0000 >*In-Reply-To:* < >[email protected]om> > > >Jim > >Thank you - I have been into Ovenstad now and found my 7x >g.grandfather, >one of his sons, his grandson and his son-in-law and daughter there. >I already had been into Hirsch's and have managed to print out pages >from those files. In Hirsch it has him as what looks like a Fendr in >Boynenbourgs regiment in 1690 and a Lt in Gyldenlow's regiment in 1700 >but in Ovenstad it shows him as Sersj. in Boynenbourgs infantry in 1689 >and Fenr in the same regiment in 1700 and Captain in 1707. As you >will understand, I am not all that good with rankings and get quite >confused - difficult as I am trying to work out just when he could have >been born, so I can try to find his parents. I did try to go into >that other link you sent me https://media but unfortunately couldn't >read it but thanks all the same. I also found an Oberst listed in >Hirschs but am still unable to work out just who he was as there is no >first name - definitely from my family though. > >Thank you again for your help. Regards, Melva >Norwaylist >Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > >RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB >http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > >guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the messagerbiographier Den Næræ

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Hello Judi, Question: Marriage of the Peder Pedersen (Dale) Records: - Great great great grandfather: Peder Pedersen* Furbø from Førde B. 1791 D. 1867 > Wife: Madsi Oddgjertsdtr. Tjønneland B. 1787 D. 1862 Answer: This must be Massie Odgiersdr b 1790. They lived Tiønneland, Førde parish, Sogn og Fjordane 1801 census Odgier Olsen 60 Manden Givt 1ste gang Gaardmand 020 04 Kari Olsdatter 53 Hans kone Givt 1ste gang 021 04 Ole Odgiersen 13 Deres børn Ugivt 022 04 Oline Odgiersdatter 23 Deres børn Ugivt 023 04 Mari Odgiersdatter 18 Deres børn Ugivt 024 04 Massie Odgiersdatter 11 Deres børn Ugivt <https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01058404000776> And this must be Peder Pedersen in Furbø (Furrebø) from Førde 1801 census Furrebøe in Førde parish <https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01058404000739> Peder Olsen Manden Han i 2dt og hun i første egteskab Gaardmand Alet Odgiersdatter 46 Hans kone Han i 2dt og hun i første egteskab Ole Pedersen 12 Deres børn Peder Pedersen 4 Deres børn Anna Marir Pedersdatter 9 Deres børn I suppose you can (must) check this censusinformation with the information in the bygdebok. I have tried to read the churchrecords, but hard to find those people in the churchrecords. Reina

Reina, THANK YOU FOR THIS... I am so happy to know this. Question: Is it possible to research records before: 1801 census for my great great grandfather from in Furbø (Furrebø) from Førde? If so, how? I am certain I would have to ask to good research team here... thoughts? I am so grateful for this.....Best wishes, Judi On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 10:02 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Judi, > > Question: > > Marriage of the Peder Pedersen (Dale) Records: > - Great great great grandfather: Peder Pedersen* Furbø from Førde B. > 1791 D. 1867 > Wife: Madsi Oddgjertsdtr. Tjønneland B. 1787 D. 1862 > > > Answer: > > This must be Massie Odgiersdr b 1790. They lived Tiønneland, Førde parish, > Sogn og Fjordane > > 1801 census > Odgier Olsen 60 Manden Givt 1ste gang Gaardmand > 020 04 Kari Olsdatter 53 Hans kone Givt 1ste gang > 021 04 Ole Odgiersen 13 Deres børn Ugivt > 022 04 Oline Odgiersdatter 23 Deres børn Ugivt > 023 04 Mari Odgiersdatter 18 Deres børn Ugivt > 024 04 Massie Odgiersdatter 11 Deres børn Ugivt > > > <https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01058404000776> > > And this must be Peder Pedersen in Furbø (Furrebø) from Førde > > 1801 census Furrebøe in Førde parish > > <https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01058404000739> > > Peder Olsen Manden Han i 2dt og hun i første egteskab Gaardmand > Alet Odgiersdatter 46 Hans kone Han i 2dt og hun i første egteskab > Ole Pedersen 12 Deres børn > Peder Pedersen 4 Deres børn > Anna Marir Pedersdatter 9 Deres børn > > > I suppose you can (must) check this censusinformation with the information > in the bygdebok. > > I have tried to read the churchrecords, but hard to find those people in > the churchrecords. > > Reina > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/ > index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Edward, THANK YOU SO MUCH for your help... I appreciate this information. Best wishes, Judi On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 4:42 AM, EDWARD A SCRIVEN <[email protected]> wrote: > On the census the 2 children are listed as deres Søn. Deres means their. > Usually if the child is not theirs together it will say hans for his or > henne for her. At the wedding they are 42 and 29. He is listed as > Enkemand, which is widower. She is Pige, which is single girl. His father > is Grdmd (farmer) Peder Pedersen, and her father is Grdmd (farmer) Ole > Oudjerdsen ( Not sure of the spelling). > > > Edward A. Scriven > Layton, Utah > Always be Happy!! > > > > ________________________________ > From: NORWAY <[email protected]> on behalf of > [email protected] <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 2:20 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NOR] Need help with Norwegian Ancestry Records | > > Your question: > - Great great grandfather: Peder Pederson Dale Junior > Christiane > Olsdotter (Sargeant _)(last name can not read on archives: HELP?)* > Marriage: > April 29, 1859 > (Pedersen) listed she is from: Tjonneland, Førde > NOT SURE if she is my: Great Great Grandmother 2, I am confused: NOT > SURE IF HE MARRIED TWICE>? HELP? > > Answers: > > <https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01038264002895> > Christiane Olsdatter - Folketelling 1865 for 1429P Ytre Holmedal > prestegjeld - Digitalarkivet - Arkivverket<https:// > digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01038264002895> > digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no > Digitalarkivet - The Digital Archives > > > > > 1865 census Ytre Holmedal prestegjeld Dale faste in Dale Sogn (Sogn og > Fjordane) > Peder Pedersen 49 Førde Prgj. Husfader g Gaardbruger og Selveier > 002 01 Christiane Olsdatter 37 Førde Prgj. hans Kone g > 003 01 Peder O. Pedersen 6 Yttre Holmedal deres Søn ug > 004 01 Andreas Pedersen 3 Yttre Holmedal deres Søn ug > 005 01 Janikke Olsdatter 17 Yttre Holmedal ug deres Tjenestepige > > The parents were born in Førde parish, the children in Yttre Holmedal. > > > Wedding in > Normally if a record is hard to read try both the Ministerial and the > Klokkerbok. > However in your case both are hard to read the Klokkerbok worse > > Ministerialbook: Fjordane > Fjaler (Ytre Holmedal) prestegjeld > > 1859 #2 weddingrecord Enkemand Peder Pedersen + Christiane Olsdr > <https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/1982/312> > > He was a widower thus indeed remarried > But Christiane Olsdr is the mother of Peder Olai > See baptism Halvor found: #22 > > <https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/1982/175> > > Reina > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > From: Judi Burton > Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 10:32 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NOR] Need help with Norwegian Ancestry Records | > > Hello: I do have some really good records and made some progress regarding > my Norwegian family roots. I would like to get further advise, links etc. > on a few things. > > > Norwegian family roots Dale, Norway (Sogn og Fjordane, Fjaler) I would like > to ask for help with a few questions for online links, etc. regarding > Births, Deaths, > Property. I did visit Dale, Norway May 2016 and was able to purchase a > reference book for the Farm: Fjaler: Gards-OG Aettesoge Bind II Dale Sokn. > (This did validate the existence and that my family existed here...but not > very clear on other details), which I hope to seek further with your help. > > > Questions: > > 1) Tracing Roots: Not sure about this: Peder Pedersen Marriages.... > Spanning 1790's to 1900's. > Marriage of the Peder Pedersen (Dale) Records: > - Great great great grandfather: Peder Pedersen* Furbø from Førde B. > 1791 D. 1867 > Wife: Madsi Oddgjertsdtr. Tjønneland B. 1787 D. 1862 > - Great great grandfather: Peder Pederson Dale Junior > Christiane > Olsdotter (Sargeant _)(last name can not read on archives: HELP?)* > Marriage: > April 29, 1859 > (Pedersen) listed she is from: Tjonneland, Førde > NOT SURE if she is my: Great Great Grandmother 2, I am confused: NOT > SURE IF HE MARRIED TWICE>? HELP? > - I saw this and not sure if I interpretted correctly: means.... > Dorte > Davidsdtr. Berge (Great Great Grandmother 1?) B. 1805 D. 18582) My great > grandfather: > - Great grandfather: Peder (Olai- I see this on some documents) Pedersen > Dale (oldest son), B. February 8, 1860, died March 1931 Dale, Norway. > > > 2) 1910 Census shows the following to confirm I read this correctly: > My great grandfather: Peder Pedersen and grandmother: Christine > Pedersen with their 3 sons moved away from Norway: 1881, moved back to > Dale, Norway 1907? > > 3) Is there a 1920 and 1930 Census available online? I could not find > either. > > 4) I purchased this reference book: Fjaler > Gards-og Aettesoge (BindII) > Dale Sokn. How do I obtain death records for both and possibly their 3 > sons? > Great grandfather: Died: March, 1931 buried in Dale, Norway. > How do I confirm my great grandmother is buried in Dale, Norway at the > Church? Died 1929 > > 5) Harald Pedersen: Dale in 1917? What does 1302 mean? > 6) Great granfather Peder Pedersen sold his 1/2 of the Dale Farm. > Not sure what year and to whom? Is this information online? No. of > the Farm: Dale. L.nr.147 a I. Br.nr 3, Skyld 2dal. 1 ort og 11 sk. > Ny skyld: 3,48 m. > 7) Great grandfather built a home in Dale, Norway after returning in 1907. > Are records available to see of this home building and sale? > 8) Great great grandfather: Peder Pedersen Dale > I understand he moved > from Furbø to Dale purchased land for this farm. > Are records available on this? > 1856 PNG: Doc is a little hard to read... Is this document a marriage or > birth? Deaths? > > I hope this is clear....I would greatly appreciate help in translating, I > have tried my very best with Norwegian online dictionaries etc. and would > greatly appreciate > further any help, thank you in advance, > > Best regards, JDaleBurton > Norwaylist > Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > RootsWeb: Genealogy Mailing Lists: Norway : NORWAY<http://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html> > lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com > A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in Norway. > Additional information can be found on the Norway List Web Site below: > > > > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > [http://rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/_heart5.jpg]<http:// > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm> > > Norway List Guidelines - RootsWeb.com Home Page<http://www.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm> > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com > Norway List Guidelines Karla Halsan Mattila - Listowner Write me anytime > at [email protected] Warnings: This list is not just genealogy. 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Hi Reina, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH for this information, links etc. I appreciate your kindness and help very much, Judi On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 3:20 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Your question: > - Great great grandfather: Peder Pederson Dale Junior > Christiane > Olsdotter (Sargeant _)(last name can not read on archives: HELP?)* > Marriage: > April 29, 1859 > (Pedersen) listed she is from: Tjonneland, Førde > NOT SURE if she is my: Great Great Grandmother 2, I am confused: NOT > SURE IF HE MARRIED TWICE>? HELP? > > Answers: > > <https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01038264002895> > > 1865 census Ytre Holmedal prestegjeld Dale faste in Dale Sogn (Sogn og > Fjordane) > Peder Pedersen 49 Førde Prgj. Husfader g Gaardbruger og Selveier > 002 01 Christiane Olsdatter 37 Førde Prgj. hans Kone g > 003 01 Peder O. Pedersen 6 Yttre Holmedal deres Søn ug > 004 01 Andreas Pedersen 3 Yttre Holmedal deres Søn ug > 005 01 Janikke Olsdatter 17 Yttre Holmedal ug deres Tjenestepige > > The parents were born in Førde parish, the children in Yttre Holmedal. > > > Wedding in > Normally if a record is hard to read try both the Ministerial and the > Klokkerbok. > However in your case both are hard to read the Klokkerbok worse > > Ministerialbook: Fjordane > Fjaler (Ytre Holmedal) prestegjeld > > 1859 #2 weddingrecord Enkemand Peder Pedersen + Christiane Olsdr > <https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/1982/312> > > He was a widower thus indeed remarried > But Christiane Olsdr is the mother of Peder Olai > See baptism Halvor found: #22 > > <https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/1982/175> > > Reina > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Judi Burton > Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 10:32 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NOR] Need help with Norwegian Ancestry Records | > > > Hello: I do have some really good records and made some progress regarding > my Norwegian family roots. I would like to get further advise, links etc. > on a few things. > > > Norwegian family roots Dale, Norway (Sogn og Fjordane, Fjaler) I would like > to ask for help with a few questions for online links, etc. regarding > Births, Deaths, > Property. I did visit Dale, Norway May 2016 and was able to purchase a > reference book for the Farm: Fjaler: Gards-OG Aettesoge Bind II Dale Sokn. > (This did validate the existence and that my family existed here...but not > very clear on other details), which I hope to seek further with your help. > > > Questions: > > 1) Tracing Roots: Not sure about this: Peder Pedersen Marriages.... > Spanning 1790's to 1900's. > Marriage of the Peder Pedersen (Dale) Records: > - Great great great grandfather: Peder Pedersen* Furbø from Førde B. > 1791 D. 1867 > Wife: Madsi Oddgjertsdtr. Tjønneland B. 1787 D. 1862 > - Great great grandfather: Peder Pederson Dale Junior > Christiane > Olsdotter (Sargeant _)(last name can not read on archives: HELP?)* > Marriage: > April 29, 1859 > (Pedersen) listed she is from: Tjonneland, Førde > NOT SURE if she is my: Great Great Grandmother 2, I am confused: NOT > SURE IF HE MARRIED TWICE>? HELP? > - I saw this and not sure if I interpretted correctly: means.... > Dorte > Davidsdtr. Berge (Great Great Grandmother 1?) B. 1805 D. 18582) My great > grandfather: > - Great grandfather: Peder (Olai- I see this on some documents) Pedersen > Dale (oldest son), B. February 8, 1860, died March 1931 Dale, Norway. > > > 2) 1910 Census shows the following to confirm I read this correctly: > My great grandfather: Peder Pedersen and grandmother: Christine > Pedersen with their 3 sons moved away from Norway: 1881, moved back to > Dale, Norway 1907? > > 3) Is there a 1920 and 1930 Census available online? I could not find > either. > > 4) I purchased this reference book: Fjaler > Gards-og Aettesoge (BindII) > Dale Sokn. How do I obtain death records for both and possibly their 3 > sons? > Great grandfather: Died: March, 1931 buried in Dale, Norway. > How do I confirm my great grandmother is buried in Dale, Norway at the > Church? Died 1929 > > 5) Harald Pedersen: Dale in 1917? What does 1302 mean? > 6) Great granfather Peder Pedersen sold his 1/2 of the Dale Farm. > Not sure what year and to whom? Is this information online? No. of > the Farm: Dale. L.nr.147 a I. Br.nr 3, Skyld 2dal. 1 ort og 11 sk. > Ny skyld: 3,48 m. > 7) Great grandfather built a home in Dale, Norway after returning in 1907. > Are records available to see of this home building and sale? > 8) Great great grandfather: Peder Pedersen Dale > I understand he moved > from Furbø to Dale purchased land for this farm. > Are records available on this? > 1856 PNG: Doc is a little hard to read... Is this document a marriage or > birth? Deaths? > > I hope this is clear....I would greatly appreciate help in translating, I > have tried my very best with Norwegian online dictionaries etc. and would > greatly appreciate > further any help, thank you in advance, > > Best regards, JDaleBurton > Norwaylist > Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list= > norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Halvor, THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!! You are so helpful. This will keep me busy for a few hours today!!! I appreciate your kindness and help very much. Best wishes, Judi On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 4:24 PM, Halvor Stokke <[email protected]> wrote: > I find Peder Harald Arthur Pedersen Dale dead 25 mai 1917, buried 30 mai > 1917 here at # 10 > > He was bor 1900 february 13th ( 1302 ) > > http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20050818020288.jpg > > Halvor in Lier > > -----Opprinnelig melding----- > Fra: NORWAY [mailto:[email protected]] På > vegne av Judi Burton > Sendt: mandag 17. april 2017 22.33 > Til: [email protected] > Emne: [NOR] Need help with Norwegian Ancestry Records | > > Hello: I do have some really good records and made some progress > regarding my Norwegian family roots. I would like to get further advise, > links etc. > on a few things. > > > Norwegian family roots Dale, Norway (Sogn og Fjordane, Fjaler) I would > like to ask for help with a few questions for online links, etc. regarding > Births, Deaths, Property. I did visit Dale, Norway May 2016 and was able > to purchase a reference book for the Farm: Fjaler: Gards-OG Aettesoge Bind > II Dale Sokn. > (This did validate the existence and that my family existed here...but not > very clear on other details), which I hope to seek further with your help. > > > Questions: > > 1) Tracing Roots: Not sure about this: Peder Pedersen Marriages.... > Spanning 1790's to 1900's. > Marriage of the Peder Pedersen (Dale) Records: > - Great great great grandfather: Peder Pedersen* Furbø from Førde B. > 1791 D. 1867 > Wife: Madsi Oddgjertsdtr. Tjønneland B. 1787 D. 1862 > - Great great grandfather: Peder Pederson Dale Junior > Christiane > Olsdotter (Sargeant _)(last name can not read on archives: HELP?)* > Marriage: > April 29, 1859 > (Pedersen) listed she is from: Tjonneland, Førde > NOT SURE if she is my: Great Great Grandmother 2, I am confused: > NOT SURE IF HE MARRIED TWICE>? HELP? > - I saw this and not sure if I interpretted correctly: means.... > Dorte Davidsdtr. Berge (Great Great Grandmother 1?) B. 1805 D. 18582) My > great > grandfather: > - Great grandfather: Peder (Olai- I see this on some documents) > Pedersen Dale (oldest son), B. February 8, 1860, died March 1931 Dale, > Norway. > > > 2) 1910 Census shows the following to confirm I read this correctly: > My great grandfather: Peder Pedersen and grandmother: Christine > Pedersen with their 3 sons moved away from Norway: 1881, moved back to > Dale, Norway 1907? > > 3) Is there a 1920 and 1930 Census available online? I could not find > either. > > 4) I purchased this reference book: Fjaler > Gards-og Aettesoge (BindII) > Dale Sokn. How do I obtain death records for both and possibly their 3 > sons? > Great grandfather: Died: March, 1931 buried in Dale, Norway. > How do I confirm my great grandmother is buried in Dale, Norway at the > Church? Died 1929 > > 5) Harald Pedersen: Dale in 1917? What does 1302 mean? > 6) Great granfather Peder Pedersen sold his 1/2 of the Dale Farm. > Not sure what year and to whom? Is this information online? No. of > the Farm: Dale. L.nr.147 a I. Br.nr 3, Skyld 2dal. 1 ort og 11 sk. > Ny skyld: 3,48 m. > 7) Great grandfather built a home in Dale, Norway after returning in 1907. > Are records available to see of this home building and sale? > 8) Great great grandfather: Peder Pedersen Dale > I understand he moved > from Furbø to Dale purchased land for this farm. > Are records available on this? > 1856 PNG: Doc is a little hard to read... Is this document a marriage > or birth? Deaths? > > I hope this is clear....I would greatly appreciate help in translating, I > have tried my very best with Norwegian online dictionaries etc. and would > greatly appreciate further any help, thank you in advance, > > Best regards, JDaleBurton > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/ > index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/ > index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Melva, This is why I follow the Norway list - I often learn things! For example, you mentioned Hirsch’s! Thanks! Do you have an online link to Hirsch’s, *Fortegnelse over Danske og Norske Offiserer 1648-1814*? I’d love to have such a link (or know where to buy/borrow/steal a copy/DVD)! ––––––––––––––––––––––––– Then you mention “I am not all that good with rankings and get quite confused…" I’m still quite confused myself and get more so with each passing year, so I understand confusion… But (in a case of the blind trying to lead those who can see) here are some quick thoughts on Dano-Norwegian Army military ranks (1690 through 1800) that might help with genealogy research a little… I caution that this isn’t carefully researched (more stream of consciousness this morning) but it is useful to me to write it out for my own use, so… ––––––––––––––––––––––––– The basic building block of the Dano-Norwegian Army (or any other army throughout Europe at the time) consisted of companies of about 100-200 men. A number of Dano-Norwegian officers served in armies elsewhere in Europe before winding up in Norway (e.g., oberst von Boynenbourg was clearly not Norwegian) so they learned from one another. A sample military company (picked out of 1688 because that’s the closest I found to your 1690) consisted, from the top down, of: OFFICERS 1 Captain – commanding officer of a company (some companies were led by premier lieutenants) 1 Lieutenant – second in command 1 Fenrik (or fænrik) - a trainee (similar to a midshipman in the US Navy, so not quite an officer, but in training to be one so if he does well, he’ll become one) ENLISTED 1 Master Sergeant – the senior enlisted man, typically a guy with leadership skills who could motivate and keep order amongst the men 2 Sergeants – platoon leaders (a platoon was ~ 30-to-40 men) 4 Corporals – squad leaders (a squad was ~8 to 12 men) – squads make up platoons 10 senior soldiers – led a small team (what is now called a fire team) – teams make up squads 2 drummers – typically boys – different drum rolls conveyed orders from officers to troops during combat – two are handy in case you lose one in combat 115 Common soldiers – reported to senior soldiers/corporals as member of team ––––––––––––––––––––––––– You’ll notice that military structure provides a certain amount of redundancy (e.g., an executive officer backs up a commanding officer & similarly there are several drummers). You expect to lose men in combat and have built in replacements throughout the chain of command to keep the company in the field & combat effective. ––––––––––––––––––––––––– Men with exceptional skills could see exceptional upward mobility (especially in periods of combat). I’m aware of at least one man who proceeded up from common soldier to colonel over a 7 year period. That said, an officer had to have both leadership skills & the ability to read & write well (reading & writing was a bit rarer back then). Since this required education, you often see the army career descend in a family (military sons of military fathers). For example I know of 3 sons of an officer who became officers, and several of his grandsons were also officers. Daughters of officers tend to marry officers as well. So looking for military descendants among the military is sometimes useful. Ovenstad has a book on Military officer's wives as well - can find it in google books. ––––––––––––––––––––––––– Companies were assembled into Regiments composed of perhaps 8 to 20 companies (roughly 1000 men), typically commanded by an Oberst (Colonel) or General. The Regiments commanding officer would have a staff consisting of: 1 Second in command – typically a colonel or major 2 or 3 Staff officers – typically majors or captains ––––––––––––––––––––––––– At the time (and probably later as well) these regiments were structured into armies north of the Dovrefjeld & south of the Dovrefjeld. This was a response to the difficulty in communication over such a distance at that time. And they all came together in reporting to the “Statholder” – in 1690 that was Ulrich Friderich Gyldneløve – who provided top level command. ––––––––––––––––––––––––– Officers might be billeted on farms designated for that purpose, but were well paid by the standards of the day & typically bought farms in the vicinity of their command. Officers tend to be both easier & harder to track through history. On the plus side, they appear in military records and also often own land, which shows in the civil records. On the minus side, they may move more frequently than others. ––––––––––––––––––––––––– Puzzling over history is part of the pleasure of seeking family history. Thanks for letting me think about this topic this morning. Best – Jim ––––––––––––––––––––––––– *From:* Melva Maguire <[email protected] <https://mail.google.com/mail/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [NOR] Boynenbourg's regiment in 1690 *Date:* Tue, 18 Apr 2017 01:14:21 +0000 *In-Reply-To:* < [email protected]om> Jim Thank you - I have been into Ovenstad now and found my 7x g.grandfather, one of his sons, his grandson and his son-in-law and daughter there. I already had been into Hirsch's and have managed to print out pages from those files. In Hirsch it has him as what looks like a Fendr in Boynenbourgs regiment in 1690 and a Lt in Gyldenlow's regiment in 1700 but in Ovenstad it shows him as Sersj. in Boynenbourgs infantry in 1689 and Fenr in the same regiment in 1700 and Captain in 1707. As you will understand, I am not all that good with rankings and get quite confused - difficult as I am trying to work out just when he could have been born, so I can try to find his parents. I did try to go into that other link you sent me https://media but unfortunately couldn't read it but thanks all the same. I also found an Oberst listed in Hirschs but am still unable to work out just who he was as there is no first name - definitely from my family though. Thank you again for your help. Regards, Melva

Your question: - Great great grandfather: Peder Pederson Dale Junior > Christiane Olsdotter (Sargeant _)(last name can not read on archives: HELP?)* Marriage: April 29, 1859 (Pedersen) listed she is from: Tjonneland, Førde NOT SURE if she is my: Great Great Grandmother 2, I am confused: NOT SURE IF HE MARRIED TWICE>? HELP? Answers: <https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01038264002895> 1865 census Ytre Holmedal prestegjeld Dale faste in Dale Sogn (Sogn og Fjordane) Peder Pedersen 49 Førde Prgj. Husfader g Gaardbruger og Selveier 002 01 Christiane Olsdatter 37 Førde Prgj. hans Kone g 003 01 Peder O. Pedersen 6 Yttre Holmedal deres Søn ug 004 01 Andreas Pedersen 3 Yttre Holmedal deres Søn ug 005 01 Janikke Olsdatter 17 Yttre Holmedal ug deres Tjenestepige The parents were born in Førde parish, the children in Yttre Holmedal. Wedding in Normally if a record is hard to read try both the Ministerial and the Klokkerbok. However in your case both are hard to read the Klokkerbok worse Ministerialbook: Fjordane Fjaler (Ytre Holmedal) prestegjeld 1859 #2 weddingrecord Enkemand Peder Pedersen + Christiane Olsdr <https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/1982/312> He was a widower thus indeed remarried But Christiane Olsdr is the mother of Peder Olai See baptism Halvor found: #22 <https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/1982/175> Reina -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Judi Burton Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 10:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NOR] Need help with Norwegian Ancestry Records | Hello: I do have some really good records and made some progress regarding my Norwegian family roots. I would like to get further advise, links etc. on a few things. Norwegian family roots Dale, Norway (Sogn og Fjordane, Fjaler) I would like to ask for help with a few questions for online links, etc. regarding Births, Deaths, Property. I did visit Dale, Norway May 2016 and was able to purchase a reference book for the Farm: Fjaler: Gards-OG Aettesoge Bind II Dale Sokn. (This did validate the existence and that my family existed here...but not very clear on other details), which I hope to seek further with your help. Questions: 1) Tracing Roots: Not sure about this: Peder Pedersen Marriages.... Spanning 1790's to 1900's. Marriage of the Peder Pedersen (Dale) Records: - Great great great grandfather: Peder Pedersen* Furbø from Førde B. 1791 D. 1867 > Wife: Madsi Oddgjertsdtr. Tjønneland B. 1787 D. 1862 - Great great grandfather: Peder Pederson Dale Junior > Christiane Olsdotter (Sargeant _)(last name can not read on archives: HELP?)* Marriage: April 29, 1859 (Pedersen) listed she is from: Tjonneland, Førde NOT SURE if she is my: Great Great Grandmother 2, I am confused: NOT SURE IF HE MARRIED TWICE>? HELP? - I saw this and not sure if I interpretted correctly: means.... Dorte Davidsdtr. Berge (Great Great Grandmother 1?) B. 1805 D. 18582) My great grandfather: - Great grandfather: Peder (Olai- I see this on some documents) Pedersen Dale (oldest son), B. February 8, 1860, died March 1931 Dale, Norway. 2) 1910 Census shows the following to confirm I read this correctly: My great grandfather: Peder Pedersen and grandmother: Christine Pedersen with their 3 sons moved away from Norway: 1881, moved back to Dale, Norway 1907? 3) Is there a 1920 and 1930 Census available online? I could not find either. 4) I purchased this reference book: Fjaler > Gards-og Aettesoge (BindII) Dale Sokn. How do I obtain death records for both and possibly their 3 sons? Great grandfather: Died: March, 1931 buried in Dale, Norway. How do I confirm my great grandmother is buried in Dale, Norway at the Church? Died 1929 5) Harald Pedersen: Dale in 1917? What does 1302 mean? 6) Great granfather Peder Pedersen sold his 1/2 of the Dale Farm. Not sure what year and to whom? Is this information online? No. of the Farm: Dale. L.nr.147 a I. Br.nr 3, Skyld 2dal. 1 ort og 11 sk. Ny skyld: 3,48 m. 7) Great grandfather built a home in Dale, Norway after returning in 1907. Are records available to see of this home building and sale? 8) Great great grandfather: Peder Pedersen Dale > I understand he moved from Furbø to Dale purchased land for this farm. Are records available on this? 1856 PNG: Doc is a little hard to read... Is this document a marriage or birth? Deaths? I hope this is clear....I would greatly appreciate help in translating, I have tried my very best with Norwegian online dictionaries etc. and would greatly appreciate further any help, thank you in advance, Best regards, JDaleBurton Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On the census the 2 children are listed as deres Søn. Deres means their. Usually if the child is not theirs together it will say hans for his or henne for her. At the wedding they are 42 and 29. He is listed as Enkemand, which is widower. She is Pige, which is single girl. His father is Grdmd (farmer) Peder Pedersen, and her father is Grdmd (farmer) Ole Oudjerdsen ( Not sure of the spelling). Edward A. Scriven Layton, Utah Always be Happy!! ________________________________ From: NORWAY <[email protected]> on behalf of [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 2:20 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NOR] Need help with Norwegian Ancestry Records | Your question: - Great great grandfather: Peder Pederson Dale Junior > Christiane Olsdotter (Sargeant _)(last name can not read on archives: HELP?)* Marriage: April 29, 1859 (Pedersen) listed she is from: Tjonneland, Førde NOT SURE if she is my: Great Great Grandmother 2, I am confused: NOT SURE IF HE MARRIED TWICE>? HELP? Answers: <https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01038264002895> Christiane Olsdatter - Folketelling 1865 for 1429P Ytre Holmedal prestegjeld - Digitalarkivet - Arkivverket<https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01038264002895> digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no Digitalarkivet - The Digital Archives 1865 census Ytre Holmedal prestegjeld Dale faste in Dale Sogn (Sogn og Fjordane) Peder Pedersen 49 Førde Prgj. Husfader g Gaardbruger og Selveier 002 01 Christiane Olsdatter 37 Førde Prgj. hans Kone g 003 01 Peder O. Pedersen 6 Yttre Holmedal deres Søn ug 004 01 Andreas Pedersen 3 Yttre Holmedal deres Søn ug 005 01 Janikke Olsdatter 17 Yttre Holmedal ug deres Tjenestepige The parents were born in Førde parish, the children in Yttre Holmedal. Wedding in Normally if a record is hard to read try both the Ministerial and the Klokkerbok. However in your case both are hard to read the Klokkerbok worse Ministerialbook: Fjordane Fjaler (Ytre Holmedal) prestegjeld 1859 #2 weddingrecord Enkemand Peder Pedersen + Christiane Olsdr <https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/1982/312> He was a widower thus indeed remarried But Christiane Olsdr is the mother of Peder Olai See baptism Halvor found: #22 <https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/1982/175> Reina -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Judi Burton Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 10:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NOR] Need help with Norwegian Ancestry Records | Hello: I do have some really good records and made some progress regarding my Norwegian family roots. I would like to get further advise, links etc. on a few things. Norwegian family roots Dale, Norway (Sogn og Fjordane, Fjaler) I would like to ask for help with a few questions for online links, etc. regarding Births, Deaths, Property. I did visit Dale, Norway May 2016 and was able to purchase a reference book for the Farm: Fjaler: Gards-OG Aettesoge Bind II Dale Sokn. (This did validate the existence and that my family existed here...but not very clear on other details), which I hope to seek further with your help. Questions: 1) Tracing Roots: Not sure about this: Peder Pedersen Marriages.... Spanning 1790's to 1900's. Marriage of the Peder Pedersen (Dale) Records: - Great great great grandfather: Peder Pedersen* Furbø from Førde B. 1791 D. 1867 > Wife: Madsi Oddgjertsdtr. Tjønneland B. 1787 D. 1862 - Great great grandfather: Peder Pederson Dale Junior > Christiane Olsdotter (Sargeant _)(last name can not read on archives: HELP?)* Marriage: April 29, 1859 (Pedersen) listed she is from: Tjonneland, Førde NOT SURE if she is my: Great Great Grandmother 2, I am confused: NOT SURE IF HE MARRIED TWICE>? HELP? - I saw this and not sure if I interpretted correctly: means.... Dorte Davidsdtr. Berge (Great Great Grandmother 1?) B. 1805 D. 18582) My great grandfather: - Great grandfather: Peder (Olai- I see this on some documents) Pedersen Dale (oldest son), B. February 8, 1860, died March 1931 Dale, Norway. 2) 1910 Census shows the following to confirm I read this correctly: My great grandfather: Peder Pedersen and grandmother: Christine Pedersen with their 3 sons moved away from Norway: 1881, moved back to Dale, Norway 1907? 3) Is there a 1920 and 1930 Census available online? I could not find either. 4) I purchased this reference book: Fjaler > Gards-og Aettesoge (BindII) Dale Sokn. How do I obtain death records for both and possibly their 3 sons? Great grandfather: Died: March, 1931 buried in Dale, Norway. How do I confirm my great grandmother is buried in Dale, Norway at the Church? Died 1929 5) Harald Pedersen: Dale in 1917? What does 1302 mean? 6) Great granfather Peder Pedersen sold his 1/2 of the Dale Farm. Not sure what year and to whom? Is this information online? No. of the Farm: Dale. L.nr.147 a I. Br.nr 3, Skyld 2dal. 1 ort og 11 sk. Ny skyld: 3,48 m. 7) Great grandfather built a home in Dale, Norway after returning in 1907. Are records available to see of this home building and sale? 8) Great great grandfather: Peder Pedersen Dale > I understand he moved from Furbø to Dale purchased land for this farm. Are records available on this? 1856 PNG: Doc is a little hard to read... Is this document a marriage or birth? Deaths? I hope this is clear....I would greatly appreciate help in translating, I have tried my very best with Norwegian online dictionaries etc. and would greatly appreciate further any help, thank you in advance, Best regards, JDaleBurton Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html RootsWeb: Genealogy Mailing Lists: Norway : NORWAY<http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html> lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in Norway. 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Jim Thank you - I have been into Ovenstad now and found my 7x g.grandfather, one of his sons, his grandson and his son-in-law and daughter there. I already had been into Hirsch's and have managed to print out pages from those files. In Hirsch it has him as what looks like a Fendr in Boynenbourgs regiment in 1690 and a Lt in Gyldenlow's regiment in 1700 but in Ovenstad it shows him as Sersj. in Boynenbourgs infantry in 1689 and Fenr in the same regiment in 1700 and Captain in 1707. As you will understand, I am not all that good with rankings and get quite confused - difficult as I am trying to work out just when he could have been born, so I can try to find his parents. I did try to go into that other link you sent me https://media but unfortunately couldn't read it but thanks all the same. I also found an Oberst listed in Hirschs but am still unable to work out just who he was as there is no first name - definitely from my family though. Thank you again for your help. Regards, Melva ------ Original Message ------ From: "Jim Wiborg" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: 18/04/2017 10:32:49 AM Subject: Re: [NOR] Boynenbourg's regiment in 1690 >Melva, > > > >Oberst (Colonel) Herman Friderich von Boynenbourg commanded the 2nd >Gevorbne (Volunteer) Infantry Regiment in 1690 (see ( >https://media.digitalarkivet.no/ru10071210040019 ). If your ancestor >is >an officer, you can look up the officers serving under Oberst >Boynenbourg >from 1688 - 1692 at that link. From there you might look in Olai >Ovenstad: Militærbiografier Den norske hærs officerer 1628-1814 . > > >If your man was enlisted… > > > >Until the end of the Dano-Norwegian period (ending after the Napoleonic >Wars so ~1800) the regular Dano-Norwegian army in Norway was based on >the >"legd" system in which municipalities provided companies for the army. >One >to four farms (depending on farm size & time period) were grouped >together >& required to provide a soldier for the army. These soldiers would >serve on >behalf of those farms in the army. > > > >Military service brought with it benefits & obligations: > >· Legd soldiers served in companies named for the municipality >in >which the farm was located. > >· Soldiers drilled near the church on Sundays after the weekly >service. > >· During times of peace the soldiers lived on the "legd," (one >of >the sponsoring farms) which, as required by law, provided the soldier >with >a place to live and work. > >· Expenses related to equipment & uniform were covered by the >state. > >· In the event of war, the legd soldiers were called up to >active >duty. > >Although Norway anticipated a Swedish invasion, 1690 was a peace >period, so >the legd soldiers can be found at farms spread throughout their various >home municipalities. For example the soldiers in the Waage Company of >the >Oplandske Nasj. Inf. Regt. can all be found on farms in Waage (Vågå), >Opland. So, continuing the example, you can find your legd soldier >from >Opland listed at https://media.digitalarkivet.no/db/contents/51354 . >This >approach works well for most any legd soldier. > > > >A core part of the Norwegian Army in the 1690s consisted of these >conscripted legd soldiers, but the ancestor you seek, if he was in >“Boynenbourg's regiment," served in a gevorbne regiment! So one needs >to >say a few words about gevorbne… > > > >“Gevorbne" soldiers enlisted voluntarily and committed to serve for a >set >number of years. The conscripted legd farmer-army was supplemented by >“gevorbne" regiments which included Infantry, Dragoon, and Cavalry >regiments. They manned garrisons and staffed fortresses in key areas >along >the Swedish & coastal borders. > > > > Unfortunately the gevorbne units don’t have a convenient tie to >municipalities/farms that a legd unit does. You can look for them >along >the Swedish border (e.g., Kongsvinger & Fredrikstad) or at fortified >locations away from the border (e.g., Akershus & Bergenhus). Sorry, >you’ll >need further research is required to figure out where Oberst >Boynenbourg’s >Volunteer Infantry Regiment was stationed in 1690. > > > >Best of luck! Jim > > >-----Opprinnelig melding----- >Fra: NORWAY [mailto:[email protected] ><https://mail.google.com/mail/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&[email protected]>] >På >vegne av Melva Maguire >Sendt: søndag 16. april 2017 22.21 >Til: [email protected] ><https://mail.google.com/mail/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&[email protected]> >Emne: [NOR] Boynenbourg's regiment in 1690 > >Dear Listers, > >I wonder if anyone knows where I could find out where Boynenbourg's >regiment was stationed in Norway in 1690. I have found military >records which show my ancestor was in this Regiment in 1690. I am >hoping that once I know where he was living, I might be able to find >his >children's birth records. > >Any help would be much appreciated. Melva >Norwaylist >Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > >RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB >http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > >guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello again Judi If you go to this page and scoll down almost to the bootom you will find links to translation of the column headings in the parish registers: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/na20.html If you want to read mor about Norwegian genalogy I think you should look at this page: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/articles.html And here you hav the front page: ???? http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/index.html This should keep you busy for a couple of hours Halvor in Lier -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: NORWAY [mailto:[email protected]] På vegne av Judi Burton Sendt: mandag 17. april 2017 23.21 Til: [email protected] Emne: Re: [NOR] Need help with Norwegian Ancestry Records | I am a bit at a disadvantage...I don't read Norwegian...I am relying on online Dictionaries not sure if I am understanding correctly. many many thanks Halvor!!!!!!

I find Peder Harald Arthur Pedersen Dale dead 25 mai 1917, buried 30 mai 1917 here at # 10 He was bor 1900 february 13th ( 1302 ) http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20050818020288.jpg Halvor in Lier -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: NORWAY [mailto:[email protected]] På vegne av Judi Burton Sendt: mandag 17. april 2017 22.33 Til: [email protected] Emne: [NOR] Need help with Norwegian Ancestry Records | Hello: I do have some really good records and made some progress regarding my Norwegian family roots. I would like to get further advise, links etc. on a few things. Norwegian family roots Dale, Norway (Sogn og Fjordane, Fjaler) I would like to ask for help with a few questions for online links, etc. regarding Births, Deaths, Property. I did visit Dale, Norway May 2016 and was able to purchase a reference book for the Farm: Fjaler: Gards-OG Aettesoge Bind II Dale Sokn. (This did validate the existence and that my family existed here...but not very clear on other details), which I hope to seek further with your help. Questions: 1) Tracing Roots: Not sure about this: Peder Pedersen Marriages.... Spanning 1790's to 1900's. Marriage of the Peder Pedersen (Dale) Records: - Great great great grandfather: Peder Pedersen* Furbø from Førde B. 1791 D. 1867 > Wife: Madsi Oddgjertsdtr. Tjønneland B. 1787 D. 1862 - Great great grandfather: Peder Pederson Dale Junior > Christiane Olsdotter (Sargeant _)(last name can not read on archives: HELP?)* Marriage: April 29, 1859 (Pedersen) listed she is from: Tjonneland, Førde NOT SURE if she is my: Great Great Grandmother 2, I am confused: NOT SURE IF HE MARRIED TWICE>? HELP? - I saw this and not sure if I interpretted correctly: means.... Dorte Davidsdtr. Berge (Great Great Grandmother 1?) B. 1805 D. 18582) My great grandfather: - Great grandfather: Peder (Olai- I see this on some documents) Pedersen Dale (oldest son), B. February 8, 1860, died March 1931 Dale, Norway. 2) 1910 Census shows the following to confirm I read this correctly: My great grandfather: Peder Pedersen and grandmother: Christine Pedersen with their 3 sons moved away from Norway: 1881, moved back to Dale, Norway 1907? 3) Is there a 1920 and 1930 Census available online? I could not find either. 4) I purchased this reference book: Fjaler > Gards-og Aettesoge (BindII) Dale Sokn. How do I obtain death records for both and possibly their 3 sons? Great grandfather: Died: March, 1931 buried in Dale, Norway. How do I confirm my great grandmother is buried in Dale, Norway at the Church? Died 1929 5) Harald Pedersen: Dale in 1917? What does 1302 mean? 6) Great granfather Peder Pedersen sold his 1/2 of the Dale Farm. Not sure what year and to whom? Is this information online? No. of the Farm: Dale. L.nr.147 a I. Br.nr 3, Skyld 2dal. 1 ort og 11 sk. Ny skyld: 3,48 m. 7) Great grandfather built a home in Dale, Norway after returning in 1907. Are records available to see of this home building and sale? 8) Great great grandfather: Peder Pedersen Dale > I understand he moved from Furbø to Dale purchased land for this farm. Are records available on this? 1856 PNG: Doc is a little hard to read... Is this document a marriage or birth? Deaths? I hope this is clear....I would greatly appreciate help in translating, I have tried my very best with Norwegian online dictionaries etc. and would greatly appreciate further any help, thank you in advance, Best regards, JDaleBurton Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Your Peder Olai was born 6 february 1860, baptised 13 march 1860 at # 8 : http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070507650304.jpg Halvor in lier -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: NORWAY [mailto:[email protected]] På vegne av Judi Burton Sendt: mandag 17. april 2017 22.33 Til: [email protected] Emne: [NOR] Need help with Norwegian Ancestry Records | Hello: I do have some really good records and made some progress regarding my Norwegian family roots. I would like to get further advise, links etc. on a few things. Norwegian family roots Dale, Norway (Sogn og Fjordane, Fjaler) I would like to ask for help with a few questions for online links, etc. regarding Births, Deaths, Property. I did visit Dale, Norway May 2016 and was able to purchase a reference book for the Farm: Fjaler: Gards-OG Aettesoge Bind II Dale Sokn. (This did validate the existence and that my family existed here...but not very clear on other details), which I hope to seek further with your help. Questions: 1) Tracing Roots: Not sure about this: Peder Pedersen Marriages.... Spanning 1790's to 1900's. Marriage of the Peder Pedersen (Dale) Records: - Great great great grandfather: Peder Pedersen* Furbø from Førde B. 1791 D. 1867 > Wife: Madsi Oddgjertsdtr. Tjønneland B. 1787 D. 1862 - Great great grandfather: Peder Pederson Dale Junior > Christiane Olsdotter (Sargeant _)(last name can not read on archives: HELP?)* Marriage: April 29, 1859 (Pedersen) listed she is from: Tjonneland, Førde NOT SURE if she is my: Great Great Grandmother 2, I am confused: NOT SURE IF HE MARRIED TWICE>? HELP? - I saw this and not sure if I interpretted correctly: means.... Dorte Davidsdtr. Berge (Great Great Grandmother 1?) B. 1805 D. 18582) My great grandfather: - Great grandfather: Peder (Olai- I see this on some documents) Pedersen Dale (oldest son), B. February 8, 1860, died March 1931 Dale, Norway. 2) 1910 Census shows the following to confirm I read this correctly: My great grandfather: Peder Pedersen and grandmother: Christine Pedersen with their 3 sons moved away from Norway: 1881, moved back to Dale, Norway 1907? 3) Is there a 1920 and 1930 Census available online? I could not find either. 4) I purchased this reference book: Fjaler > Gards-og Aettesoge (BindII) Dale Sokn. How do I obtain death records for both and possibly their 3 sons? Great grandfather: Died: March, 1931 buried in Dale, Norway. How do I confirm my great grandmother is buried in Dale, Norway at the Church? Died 1929 5) Harald Pedersen: Dale in 1917? What does 1302 mean? 6) Great granfather Peder Pedersen sold his 1/2 of the Dale Farm. Not sure what year and to whom? Is this information online? No. of the Farm: Dale. L.nr.147 a I. Br.nr 3, Skyld 2dal. 1 ort og 11 sk. Ny skyld: 3,48 m. 7) Great grandfather built a home in Dale, Norway after returning in 1907. Are records available to see of this home building and sale? 8) Great great grandfather: Peder Pedersen Dale > I understand he moved from Furbø to Dale purchased land for this farm. Are records available on this? 1856 PNG: Doc is a little hard to read... Is this document a marriage or birth? Deaths? I hope this is clear....I would greatly appreciate help in translating, I have tried my very best with Norwegian online dictionaries etc. and would greatly appreciate further any help, thank you in advance, Best regards, JDaleBurton Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Can't give you answer on all your questions but some general information about published records in Norway. - Censuses are restricted for 100 years befor publishing - 1920 census comes in 2020 - Scanned church records have different limits, look here: http://arkivverket.no/eng/content/view/full/17726 For the online records look here: http://arkivverket.no/eng/Digitalarkivet Hope this can help you and give some answers Halvor in Lier -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: NORWAY [mailto:[email protected]] På vegne av Judi Burton Sendt: mandag 17. april 2017 22.33 Til: [email protected] Emne: [NOR] Need help with Norwegian Ancestry Records | Hello: I do have some really good records and made some progress regarding my Norwegian family roots. I would like to get further advise, links etc. on a few things. Norwegian family roots Dale, Norway (Sogn og Fjordane, Fjaler) I would like to ask for help with a few questions for online links, etc. regarding Births, Deaths, Property. I did visit Dale, Norway May 2016 and was able to purchase a reference book for the Farm: Fjaler: Gards-OG Aettesoge Bind II Dale Sokn. (This did validate the existence and that my family existed here...but not very clear on other details), which I hope to seek further with your help. Questions: 1) Tracing Roots: Not sure about this: Peder Pedersen Marriages.... Spanning 1790's to 1900's. Marriage of the Peder Pedersen (Dale) Records: - Great great great grandfather: Peder Pedersen* Furbø from Førde B. 1791 D. 1867 > Wife: Madsi Oddgjertsdtr. Tjønneland B. 1787 D. 1862 - Great great grandfather: Peder Pederson Dale Junior > Christiane Olsdotter (Sargeant _)(last name can not read on archives: HELP?)* Marriage: April 29, 1859 (Pedersen) listed she is from: Tjonneland, Førde NOT SURE if she is my: Great Great Grandmother 2, I am confused: NOT SURE IF HE MARRIED TWICE>? HELP? - I saw this and not sure if I interpretted correctly: means.... Dorte Davidsdtr. Berge (Great Great Grandmother 1?) B. 1805 D. 18582) My great grandfather: - Great grandfather: Peder (Olai- I see this on some documents) Pedersen Dale (oldest son), B. February 8, 1860, died March 1931 Dale, Norway. 2) 1910 Census shows the following to confirm I read this correctly: My great grandfather: Peder Pedersen and grandmother: Christine Pedersen with their 3 sons moved away from Norway: 1881, moved back to Dale, Norway 1907? 3) Is there a 1920 and 1930 Census available online? I could not find either. 4) I purchased this reference book: Fjaler > Gards-og Aettesoge (BindII) Dale Sokn. How do I obtain death records for both and possibly their 3 sons? Great grandfather: Died: March, 1931 buried in Dale, Norway. How do I confirm my great grandmother is buried in Dale, Norway at the Church? Died 1929 5) Harald Pedersen: Dale in 1917? What does 1302 mean? 6) Great granfather Peder Pedersen sold his 1/2 of the Dale Farm. Not sure what year and to whom? Is this information online? No. of the Farm: Dale. L.nr.147 a I. Br.nr 3, Skyld 2dal. 1 ort og 11 sk. Ny skyld: 3,48 m. 7) Great grandfather built a home in Dale, Norway after returning in 1907. Are records available to see of this home building and sale? 8) Great great grandfather: Peder Pedersen Dale > I understand he moved from Furbø to Dale purchased land for this farm. Are records available on this? 1856 PNG: Doc is a little hard to read... Is this document a marriage or birth? Deaths? I hope this is clear....I would greatly appreciate help in translating, I have tried my very best with Norwegian online dictionaries etc. and would greatly appreciate further any help, thank you in advance, Best regards, JDaleBurton Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway

Thanks you Wanda. It is the right persons. They are from Vemundvik, Nord-Trøndelag in Norway. I found an ancestyr tree listing all the siblings with their birthdates and death dates, and some in the census. The Ancestyr tree had a second wife and lots more children for the parents which is not correct, but the other was correct with birth dates. Now I got the death dates on most of them. Ellen Aune was their sister. Anne -----Original Message----- From: NORWAY [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Wanda Henderson Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 7:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NOR] Siblings from Vemundvik emigrated top USA U.S., WWI Draft Registrations, 1917-1918 @ ancestry: Hans Christian Olson, b 11 Jan 1875, naturalized living in Keystone, Holmes P.O., Albany Co, WY Foreman at Wyoming Timber Co in Keystone, WY nearest relative: Andrew Olson in Laramie, Albany Co, WY Also, there is a book at Google books "Medicine Bow Valley Pioneers" where 'Andy Olson' is mentioned several times, including "Andy Olson, Hans Olson and Otto and Ellen Aune formed the successful Boswell Ranch Company in Albany County..." BUT - states he is from Norway? Wanda -----Original Message----- From: Anne Hildrum <[email protected]> To: norway <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Apr 17, 2017 2:46 am Subject: [NOR] Siblings from Vemundvik emigrated top USA Andreas Konrad Engen (Oldervik) b dec 24th 1864, emigrated March 14th 1886 to Laramie, Wyoming, When he emigrated his name was listed as Andreas Ols. Aaldervig. He was married to a sweedish lady and had 2 children. He did very well with buying and developing forestparts. He became pretty wealthy and needed a safe place to invest his money, and had a bankmanager he trusted, but who ufortuneately was a dishonest man and his whole fortune was lost. He startged again with forests and build a new fortune. He also participated in churchlife and was titulated as churchminister. He was also a good shooter and traveled around and had displays. After a while he could call himself world champion in pigeon shooting. Julie Malena Olsdtr (Oldervik) b July 1st 1867. She emigrated Oct 25th 1920 and she was married to a Sweedish man. Iver Engelberth Olsen (Oldervik) b April 2nd 1870. He emigrated Aprfil 18th 1888 to Laramie, Wyoming. He was married and had many children. Hans Kristian Olsen (Oldervik) He was born in Jan 11th 1875 and emigrated April 24th 1907 to Laramie, Wyoming and he was unmarried. He run the forest business together with his brother. He also became well off Helmer Oluf Olsen (Oldervik) b Sep 29th 1878 and he emigrated Jan 11th 1899 to Laramie, Wyoming. He was in an accident in a stable and died. The younges sister Elen Julianne Olsdtr Oldervik b Sep 14th 1881 also emigrated to the USA in 1908 and married Otto Aune b 1877 in Overhalla, but her I have found as well as her husband. I don't think she had any children. One sister remained with their parents in Norway and her marriage and children I have. The children's parents were Ole Ingebrigtsen Furre and Hanna Caroline Andreasdtr Engene. It is the children who emigarted I am trying to find, but so far no luck. Mvh Anne Hildrum Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message