This looks like Anna Marie's grave. If so, there is a message left by her great great great granddaughter. Maybe you can contact her for more information. https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Siverson&GSiman=1&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=51&GScnty=3023&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=125415124&df=all& Anne Maria Siverson Birth: Jan. 23, 1832 Death: Dec. 19, 1897 Burial: Scandinavian Baptist Cemetery Holmen La Crosse County Wisconsin, USA Created by: Anonymous Record added: Feb 20, 2014 Find A Grave Memorial# 125415124 Annette On 4/22/17, Annette Bowen <[email protected]> wrote: > This looks like the same family in the 1880 census, still in LaCrosse > County, WI. > > Household > Anna M Siverson Self F 47 Norway > Ida Siverson Daughter F 15 Wisconsin, United States > Olif Siverson Son M 16 Wisconsin, United States > Edward Siverson Son M 10 Wisconsin, United States > Stener Siverson Son M 8 Wisconsin, United States > Anna Siverson Daughter F 4 Wisconsin, United States > Citing this Record > > "United States Census, 1880," database with images, FamilySearch > (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MN4R-BJS : 14 July 2016), > Olif Siverson in household of Anna M Siverson, Hamilton, La Crosse, > Wisconsin, United States; citing enumeration district ED 49, sheet > 404C, NARA microfilm publication T9 (Washington D.C.: National > Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 1432; FHL microfilm > 1,255,432. > > Annette > > > On 4/22/17, Lars E. Oyane <[email protected]> wrote: >> Dear Hans! >> >> I find this birth in the church records of Upper Lewis Valley Lutheran at >> Mindoro, La Crosse Co., WI: >> >> * Ida Amalie - born June 18, christened Nov. 19, 1865 - parents Peder >> Syvertsen and Anna Marie Olsdtr - sponsors are Olava Amundsdtr, Thea >> Olsdtr, >> Erik Holberg and Lars Olsen >> >> The 1870 census has them in Neshonoe township, La Crosse Co., WI: >> >> Severson, Peter 38 Nor farmer >> Severson, Ann Maria 40 Nor keeping house >> Severson, Olaff 6 WI >> Severson, Edie 4 WI >> Severson, Edward 1 mo WI >> >> Hopefully this will help you? >> >> Very sincerely yours, >> >> Lars E. Oyane >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >>> On Apr 22, 2017, at 6:08 AM, Hans Myhre <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Need help here. >>> Peder Syvertsen and Anne Marie got Ida Amalie Syvertsen abt, 1866. She >>> married July 22, 1887 in La Crosse WI to Martin Olsen Gjestvang. >>> He is known but I cannot find out more about Peder Syvertsen and his >>> wife >>> Anna Marie. The name tells me they are Norwegians but I could not find >>> any age on them in census USA. >>> >>> Hans Myhre >>> >> >> >> Norwaylist >> Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway >> >> RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html >> >> guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >

This looks like the same family in the 1880 census, still in LaCrosse County, WI. Household Anna M Siverson Self F 47 Norway Ida Siverson Daughter F 15 Wisconsin, United States Olif Siverson Son M 16 Wisconsin, United States Edward Siverson Son M 10 Wisconsin, United States Stener Siverson Son M 8 Wisconsin, United States Anna Siverson Daughter F 4 Wisconsin, United States Citing this Record "United States Census, 1880," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MN4R-BJS : 14 July 2016), Olif Siverson in household of Anna M Siverson, Hamilton, La Crosse, Wisconsin, United States; citing enumeration district ED 49, sheet 404C, NARA microfilm publication T9 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 1432; FHL microfilm 1,255,432. Annette On 4/22/17, Lars E. Oyane <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Hans! > > I find this birth in the church records of Upper Lewis Valley Lutheran at > Mindoro, La Crosse Co., WI: > > * Ida Amalie - born June 18, christened Nov. 19, 1865 - parents Peder > Syvertsen and Anna Marie Olsdtr - sponsors are Olava Amundsdtr, Thea Olsdtr, > Erik Holberg and Lars Olsen > > The 1870 census has them in Neshonoe township, La Crosse Co., WI: > > Severson, Peter 38 Nor farmer > Severson, Ann Maria 40 Nor keeping house > Severson, Olaff 6 WI > Severson, Edie 4 WI > Severson, Edward 1 mo WI > > Hopefully this will help you? > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> On Apr 22, 2017, at 6:08 AM, Hans Myhre <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Need help here. >> Peder Syvertsen and Anne Marie got Ida Amalie Syvertsen abt, 1866. She >> married July 22, 1887 in La Crosse WI to Martin Olsen Gjestvang. >> He is known but I cannot find out more about Peder Syvertsen and his wife >> Anna Marie. The name tells me they are Norwegians but I could not find >> any age on them in census USA. >> >> Hans Myhre >> > > > Norwaylist > Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Need help here. Peder Syvertsen and Anne Marie got Ida Amalie Syvertsen abt, 1866. She married July 22, 1887 in La Crosse WI to Martin Olsen Gjestvang. He is known but I cannot find out more about Peder Syvertsen and his wife Anna Marie. The name tells me they are Norwegians but I could not find any age on them in census USA. Hans Myhre

Peder Jacobsen Smedaas, born 19 Dec 1834, immigrated in 1857. The date he left the parish I think is 27 Feb. He is #4 on page 335 Below is the quick link: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070129640326 I need help reading and translating the word before his name and also the comments/destination colum (the last column). Any and all help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Linda Greethurst

Dear Hans! I find this birth in the church records of Upper Lewis Valley Lutheran at Mindoro, La Crosse Co., WI: * Ida Amalie - born June 18, christened Nov. 19, 1865 - parents Peder Syvertsen and Anna Marie Olsdtr - sponsors are Olava Amundsdtr, Thea Olsdtr, Erik Holberg and Lars Olsen The 1870 census has them in Neshonoe township, La Crosse Co., WI: Severson, Peter 38 Nor farmer Severson, Ann Maria 40 Nor keeping house Severson, Olaff 6 WI Severson, Edie 4 WI Severson, Edward 1 mo WI Hopefully this will help you? Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > On Apr 22, 2017, at 6:08 AM, Hans Myhre <[email protected]> wrote: > > Need help here. > Peder Syvertsen and Anne Marie got Ida Amalie Syvertsen abt, 1866. She married July 22, 1887 in La Crosse WI to Martin Olsen Gjestvang. > He is known but I cannot find out more about Peder Syvertsen and his wife Anna Marie. The name tells me they are Norwegians but I could not find any age on them in census USA. > > Hans Myhre >

Hello Judi I have found this at the internet about your Peder Olsen Furrebøe. His ancestral line goes further back in time untill abt. 1650 <http://www.eri.no/slekt/getperson.php?personID=I11243&tree=JAN> Regards Reina

Dear Listers, After great information about Oscar Oakes from Cleveland, OH have discovered that his wife Emma’s 1st husband also must have suffered a rather «unusual» death. Ole Ellingson NORBERG, a shoemaker who abandoned his wife in Norway in the mid-1860’s and remarried in Madison, WI in 1872, moved with Emma to Cleveland, OH, where he died May 27, 1881. His death certificate shows he died by strangulation, and now I wonder whether there may be write-ups in Cleveland newspapers about this event? Thanks a million in advance for your great assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane

Here's John T. Lee. Forest City press., May 12, 1915, Image 2 Physicians had hard work saving the life of John T. Lee. aged 60, of Hayti, after be was found unconscious in a local hotel this morning, nearly asphyxiated, with a gas jet open. The fact that the room was provided with electric lights, and that it was unnecessary to use the gas, give rise to a rumor that it was an attempt at suicide, but this is denied. https://tinyurl.com/kbnnwsm Dakota farmers' leader., May 21, 1915, Image 3 John T. Lee, of Hayti, who was overcome by gas in a Sioux Falls hotel last week, died without regaining consciousness. Although there were electric lights in the room he used the gas light and failed to turn it off properly upon retiring. https://tinyurl.com/lyreqw6 Mark Erickson

Dear Listers, I have made an interesting discovery in Hamlin Co., SD, and I suspect a couple of local obituaries would help get an even better view of the family in question. Maybe someone with access to the newspaper databases could help me by taking a look for one or more of these? * Ole ENGLAND, born in Sogndal, Norway July 7, 1829, died at Hayti, SD Dec. 7, 1909 * John T. LEE, born in Lom, Norway Dec. 25, 1847, died at Sioux Falls, SD May 10, 1915, but resided near Hayti, SD * Hans JOHNSON, born in Winneshiek Co., IA Oct. 24, 1854, died at Hayti, SD Feb. 24, 1940 * Synneva «Susan» JOHNSON (nee England), born in Iowa Co., WI June of 1862, died at Hayti, SD June 9, 1945 * Christine SHELSTA (nee Lee), born in Lom, Norway Aug. 8, 1853, died at Watertown, SD May 17, 1933, but used to reside at Hayti, SD They are all buried in the West Norden cemetery in Hamlin Co., SD. Thanks a million in advance for your great assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane

Thank you very much Don! This may really be them. And it looks like they didn't have any children. Tove Midtlyng Lervik Citing this Record: "United States Census, 1910," database with images, FamilySearch, Henrietta Hansen in household of Harry Hansen, Jersey City Ward 1, Hudson, New Jersey, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) ED 79, sheet 6B, family 94, NARA microfilm publication T624 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1982), roll 888; FHL microfilm 1,374,901. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MKYX-Z86 ********** Citing this Record: "United States Census, 1920," database with images, FamilySearch, Henrietta Hansen in household of Harold Hansen, Jersey City Ward 1, Hudson, New Jersey, United States; citing ED 110, sheet 5B, line 81, family 88, NARA microfilm publication T625 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1992), roll 1043; FHL microfilm 1,821,043. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M4RV-WDL Don in Maine USA ---------------------------------------- From: "Tove Midtlyng Lervik" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 1:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NOR] Henriette Midtlyng Hello! Henriette Mathilde Midtlyng, born 30.11.1877 in Mer?ker Norway, emigrated to America in 1907. She travelled from Christiania/Oslo and arrived New York on 11th Dec 1907. Already the next day she married Harald August Hansen born 1879 in Christiania. Link to the marriage where her last name is misspelled: <https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24HY-1X1> I don't have access to any sources in USA, so this is all I have found out about her after she left Norway. Is there anyone who could try to look for her in the censuses or birth records for possibly children? Tove Midtlyng Lervik Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Ingrid! I knew there was more than just born and baptised. Thank you so much! Warm Regards, Stephanie Message: 3 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 10:11:18 -0400 From: Stephanie Bolster Benoit <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: [NOR] Hardanger Tree Project Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi all! As one of the genealogists for the Hardanger Lag, I started compiling a "tree" of the 236 Charter members who I put in Ancestry.com. Now I've been convinced to put data in this tree of the people who were in the Centennial booklet. Of course, the first one I put in has vague info about the emigrant so I took it upon myself to get details and I found the child recorded in the birth record but I can't quite read this whole thing so I am asking for your help and I am going to drag you all into this project. I know this won't be the last time I ask for help on this so I appreciate your kindness. She is #102 Sigri born 14 July out of wedlock. I'm having a hard time reading the other. The father is Ole Kristoffersen? the mother is also a Sigri Knudsdatter ?. https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/8313/41008/11 I don't know if there is anything of import that I'm missing in there but I'd at least like to have the names correct. Shaking my head -- what have I gotten myself and you all into...ha ha Thanks so much, ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 18:03:22 +0200 From: Ingrid Kj?nn?y <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NOR] Hardanger Tree Project Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I cannot read all of it, but it says that as the baby's father unmarried man Ole Kristoffersen something is reported, and the mother is married woman Sigrid Knutsdatter Berget. There is also something about his having been sentenced for theft and something about the jail (Tugthus) in Bergen. Someone else can read it better, I hope. Rather interesting family background for little Sigrid, I'd say. Ingrid

Hello! Henriette Mathilde Midtlyng, born 30.11.1877 in Meråker Norway, emigrated to America in 1907. She travelled from Christiania/Oslo and arrived New York on 11th Dec 1907. Already the next day she married Harald August Hansen born 1879 in Christiania. Link to the marriage where her last name is misspelled: <https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24HY-1X1> I don't have access to any sources in USA, so this is all I have found out about her after she left Norway. Is there anyone who could try to look for her in the censuses or birth records for possibly children? Tove Midtlyng Lervik

There is also a Rootsweb list for Quaker genealogy if you're interested. Perhaps someone who is still a Quaker would have an answer. http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Religion/QUAKER-ROOTS.html Beste, Bev On 4/20/2017 5:21 PM, Joe Aasland wrote: > > Hei Bev, > > Thanks. That's an interesting idea. I don't know much about the Quakers. Abelone's parents were Quakers but Abelone was baptised in Stavanger Domkirken so I doubt that she or Bernhard were Quakers. There is no Quaker meeting in Pensacola presently. The closest is in Tallahassee. If there is no other fruitful line of enquiry, I will contact them. > > mvh, > > Jostein > >

I cannot read all of it, but it says that as the baby's father unmarried man Ole Kristoffersen something is reported, and the mother is married woman Sigrid Knutsdatter Berget. There is also something about his having been sentenced for theft and something about the jail (Tugthus) in Bergen. Someone else can read it better, I hope. Rather interesting family background for little Sigrid, I'd say. Ingrid -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: NORWAY [mailto:[email protected]] På vegne av Stephanie Bolster Benoit Sendt: 20. april 2017 16:11 Til: [email protected] Emne: [NOR] Hardanger Tree Project Hi all! As one of the genealogists for the Hardanger Lag, I started compiling a "tree" of the 236 Charter members who I put in Ancestry.com. Now I've been convinced to put data in this tree of the people who were in the Centennial booklet. Of course, the first one I put in has vague info about the emigrant so I took it upon myself to get details and I found the child recorded in the birth record but I can't quite read this whole thing so I am asking for your help and I am going to drag you all into this project. I know this won't be the last time I ask for help on this so I appreciate your kindness. She is #102 Sigri born 14 July out of wedlock. I'm having a hard time reading the other. The father is Ole Kristoffersen? the mother is also a Sigri Knudsdatter ?. https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/8313/41008/11 I don't know if there is anything of import that I'm missing in there but I'd at least like to have the names correct. Shaking my head -- what have I gotten myself and you all into...ha ha Thanks so much,

Dear Mark, Annette and other Listers! Thanks a million, Mark, for providing me with these documents. Unfortunately, we don’t learn where Oscar came from, but at least we have an emigration year for him, 1874! Thanks again! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > On Apr 20, 2017, at 2:39 PM, Mark Erickson <[email protected]> wrote: > > Here's the original pages. > > Declarations of intention 1881-1884 vol 9 > https://tinyurl.com/jvsc8ch <https://tinyurl.com/jvsc8ch> > > Petitions for naturalization and petition evidence 1883-1884 vol 17 > https://tinyurl.com/m6f7mup <https://tinyurl.com/m6f7mup> ~~~~~~~~~ > On Apr 20, 2017, at 3:09 PM, Annette Bowen <[email protected]> wrote: > > Lars, > At that time there was no fixed naturalization form. Naturalization > could take place in any court, and each was different. My > great-grandfathers' forms did not ask where they were from or when > they came over. In the declaration of intent they just gave up their > allegiance to the reigning Sovereign of the Kingdom of Norway and > Sweden. This was in Goodhue County, Minn. The naturalization > certificates for both (1884 and 1887) were in Pierce County, Wis. They > swore that they renounced any allegiance to a Foreign Prince or > Sovereign, and in particular to Oscar the 2nd, King of Norway and > Sweden. I don't have any experience with Ohio. Maybe they asked for > more information. > > Annette > > On 4/20/17, Lars E. Oyane <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> Dear Greg, Mark and other Listers! >> >> Thank you very much for your messages from yesterday, and in particular to >> you, Mark, for finding the article! >> >> What a dreadful death… >> >> Now, in the meantime I have located naturalization papers on FamilySearch >> for Oscar Oakes, also spelt Oaks, from 1882 and 1884, and it appears he was >> born in SWEDEN about 1848/1849. >> >> Can anyone think of where in Sweden he may have come from? Would it say in >> the naturalization papers? Can they be viewed online? >> >> https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K84L-DFW >> <https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K84L-DFW <https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K84L-DFW>> >> >> https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K84L-DF4 <https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K84L-DF4> >> <https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K84L-DF4 <https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K84L-DF4>> >> >> Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! >> >> Very sincerely yours, >> >> Lars E. Oyane

Jostein - You mentioned that the parents were Quakers. I don't know how the Quakers do things in Norway, but here in America the Quakers have copious records in what they call Monthly Meetings, and when we're lucky those records are published. Have you tried contacting any Quakers in the region where the people you are looking for lived to see if Norwegian Quakers did the same thing, and if they have records that mention the incident you are referring to? If so, be aware that they may have a different dating system from us in that they have numbered months and days; they didn't use the names of the months or names of the days of the week because of the references to ancient deities and such found in the words. Some of my colonial New England ancestors in Rhode Island were Quakers (and helped found the state in the mid-1600s) which is why I know about their records and meeting notes here in the US. Good Luck! Beste, Bev On 4/20/2017 3:56 PM, Joe Aasland wrote: > Hei, > > I am wondering if anyone can help me with a newspaper account of the events in the following story in Pensacola, FL. I have looked on line for newspapers but did not find anything. I contacted the library in Pensacola by phone and e-mail without any response. Perhaps someone on the list can tell me if a newspaper account can be found. > > From Find a Grave, the details about Bernhard Rasmussen: > > Birth: Jul. 30, 1856 > Eigersund kommune > Rogaland fylke, Norway > Death: May 31, 1901 > > Burial: > Saint John's Cemetery > Pensacola > Escambia County > Florida, USA > Plot: Section 10 Lot 23 Space 7 No Marker > > My father and his parents lived in Lervig in east Stavanger where Abelone's corner store was located. Abelone was also a witness to the baptism of my great uncle's out of wedlock child. > > The following account was written by Abelone's great grand daughter. The account of the shooting is a bit strange to my ear and I would like a more realistic description if possible. > > mvh, > > Jostein > > > Abelone was born at "Hauge" Østenstad, Skjold in 1859. The youngest of four brothers and sisters who survived. Her parents were Quakers. Gudmund Gudmundsen was from Lindanger and Elen Oline, called "Lina" was from Hatlestad. Abelone’s father died when Abelone was only two years old. Her mother was left with four children between the ages of two and eleven. Lina took Abelone with her to Stavanger. Her three brothers all grew up as foster children on different farms in Tysvær, Skjold . > > Abelone grew up in Stavanger with her mother. Living in cramped housing with barely enough food and clothes. She learned early to struggle for her money. Her confirmation was in the Stavanger Cathedral in 1874. > > At the age of twenty-two she married steward Bernhard Rasmussen who was from Egersund. Like all sailors, he spent long periods at sea. Abelone had to handle births and childcare by herself. Without relatives and family around, there was little help. > > Abelone and Bernhard had five children. The first daughter born in 1882 is mentally handicapped; " Sindsyg " or " idiot " as it says in the sources. The last daughter, born in 1895, died after eight months. Abelone’s mother moved in with them now that she was getting older and unable to wash clothes for other people. One day Abelone offered to sail with her husband on an out of country trip. This was in 1901 and the popular steward Rasmussen sailed on Sigval Bergesen’s ship “Langfonn”. Abelone would be a cook aboard ship. She organized childcare for her children and shipped out. > > Perhaps this was something she regretted later. The trip wasn't what she had thought and hoped. In Pensacola, Florida, the two went for an evening walk. On the way to the docks and the ship a masked man suddenly jumps out of some bushes and shoots Bernhard. He dies aboard ship before the doctor arrives. > > A grief-stricken Abelone went home to her children in Stavanger. What could she do now? She's a widow; 40 years old with four children, including a developmentally disabled 19 year old. The youngest daughter is only eight. Abelone’s dear old mother of 81 also lives with them. > > Luckily she got some funds in compensation from Bergesen’s shipping company as well as some money collected by the ship’s crew. With this, she bought a house at Lervigsveien 19. Abelone opens a small shop in his house. This business feeds her and her family. To increase her income she rents out rooms. She was even able to afford a maid. > >

Hei Bev, Thanks. That's an interesting idea. I don't know much about the Quakers. Abelone's parents were Quakers but Abelone was baptised in Stavanger Domkirken so I doubt that she or Bernhard were Quakers. There is no Quaker meeting in Pensacola presently. The closest is in Tallahassee. If there is no other fruitful line of enquiry, I will contact them. mvh, Jostein ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bev Anderson" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 3:42:12 PM Subject: Re: [NOR] Bernhard Rasmussen Jostein - You mentioned that the parents were Quakers. I don't know how the Quakers do things in Norway, but here in America the Quakers have copious records in what they call Monthly Meetings, and when we're lucky those records are published. Have you tried contacting any Quakers in the region where the people you are looking for lived to see if Norwegian Quakers did the same thing, and if they have records that mention the incident you are referring to? If so, be aware that they may have a different dating system from us in that they have numbered months and days; they didn't use the names of the months or names of the days of the week because of the references to ancient deities and such found in the words. Some of my colonial New England ancestors in Rhode Island were Quakers (and helped found the state in the mid-1600s) which is why I know about their records and meeting notes here in the US. Good Luck! Beste, Bev On 4/20/2017 3:56 PM, Joe Aasland wrote: > Hei, > > I am wondering if anyone can help me with a newspaper account of the events in the following story in Pensacola, FL. I have looked on line for newspapers but did not find anything. I contacted the library in Pensacola by phone and e-mail without any response. Perhaps someone on the list can tell me if a newspaper account can be found. > > From Find a Grave, the details about Bernhard Rasmussen: > > Birth: Jul. 30, 1856 > Eigersund kommune > Rogaland fylke, Norway > Death: May 31, 1901 > > Burial: > Saint John's Cemetery > Pensacola > Escambia County > Florida, USA > Plot: Section 10 Lot 23 Space 7 No Marker > > My father and his parents lived in Lervig in east Stavanger where Abelone's corner store was located. Abelone was also a witness to the baptism of my great uncle's out of wedlock child. > > The following account was written by Abelone's great grand daughter. The account of the shooting is a bit strange to my ear and I would like a more realistic description if possible. > > mvh, > > Jostein > > > Abelone was born at "Hauge" Østenstad, Skjold in 1859. The youngest of four brothers and sisters who survived. Her parents were Quakers. Gudmund Gudmundsen was from Lindanger and Elen Oline, called "Lina" was from Hatlestad. Abelone’s father died when Abelone was only two years old. Her mother was left with four children between the ages of two and eleven. Lina took Abelone with her to Stavanger. Her three brothers all grew up as foster children on different farms in Tysvær, Skjold . > > Abelone grew up in Stavanger with her mother. Living in cramped housing with barely enough food and clothes. She learned early to struggle for her money. Her confirmation was in the Stavanger Cathedral in 1874. > > At the age of twenty-two she married steward Bernhard Rasmussen who was from Egersund. Like all sailors, he spent long periods at sea. Abelone had to handle births and childcare by herself. Without relatives and family around, there was little help. > > Abelone and Bernhard had five children. The first daughter born in 1882 is mentally handicapped; " Sindsyg " or " idiot " as it says in the sources. The last daughter, born in 1895, died after eight months. Abelone’s mother moved in with them now that she was getting older and unable to wash clothes for other people. One day Abelone offered to sail with her husband on an out of country trip. This was in 1901 and the popular steward Rasmussen sailed on Sigval Bergesen’s ship “Langfonn”. Abelone would be a cook aboard ship. She organized childcare for her children and shipped out. > > Perhaps this was something she regretted later. The trip wasn't what she had thought and hoped. In Pensacola, Florida, the two went for an evening walk. On the way to the docks and the ship a masked man suddenly jumps out of some bushes and shoots Bernhard. He dies aboard ship before the doctor arrives. > > A grief-stricken Abelone went home to her children in Stavanger. What could she do now? She's a widow; 40 years old with four children, including a developmentally disabled 19 year old. The youngest daughter is only eight. Abelone’s dear old mother of 81 also lives with them. > > Luckily she got some funds in compensation from Bergesen’s shipping company as well as some money collected by the ship’s crew. With this, she bought a house at Lervigsveien 19. Abelone opens a small shop in his house. This business feeds her and her family. To increase her income she rents out rooms. She was even able to afford a maid. > > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lars, At that time there was no fixed naturalization form. Naturalization could take place in any court, and each was different. My great-grandfathers' forms did not ask where they were from or when they came over. In the declaration of intent they just gave up their allegiance to the reigning Sovereign of the Kingdom of Norway and Sweden. This was in Goodhue County, Minn. The naturalization certificates for both (1884 and 1887) were in Pierce County, Wis. They swore that they renounced any allegiance to a Foreign Prince or Sovereign, and in particular to Oscar the 2nd, King of Norway and Sweden. I don't have any experience with Ohio. Maybe they asked for more information. Annette On 4/20/17, Lars E. Oyane <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Greg, Mark and other Listers! > > Thank you very much for your messages from yesterday, and in particular to > you, Mark, for finding the article! > > What a dreadful death… > > Now, in the meantime I have located naturalization papers on FamilySearch > for Oscar Oakes, also spelt Oaks, from 1882 and 1884, and it appears he was > born in SWEDEN about 1848/1849. > > Can anyone think of where in Sweden he may have come from? Would it say in > the naturalization papers? Can they be viewed online? > > https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K84L-DFW > <https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K84L-DFW> > > https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K84L-DF4 > <https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K84L-DF4> > > Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> On Apr 19, 2017, at 10:04 AM, Mark Erickson <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Hi Lars, >> This one is from the first newspaper. >> Newspaper: Norwalk Daily Reflector; 29 Apr 1893; Page: 1 >> >> Terribly Mangled. >> Cleveland , April 29.—Oscar Oakes, a boarding house keeper at 419 Willson >> avenue, was struck and instantly killed by Lake Shore passenger train No. >> 5 >> yesterday, while he was walking on the tracks. The man’s head was torn off >> and the body terribly mangled. He left a wife, but no children. The >> remains >> were taken to the morgue. >> >> I don’t have access to the dates needed for the Akron Beacon Journal. >> >> -Thanks! >> Mark Erickson > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> On Apr 19, 2017, at 4:17 AM, Lars E. Oyane <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Dear Listers! >> >> I have again found an obituary reference which I cannot quite make out. >> But since it is on ancestry, I hope that someone can help me find it? >> >> Ingeborg «Emma» Johnson from Luster Co., Norway married in Cleveland, OH >> in 1882 this gentleman: >> >> Oscar Oakes, for whom I find the following entry: >> >> >> Name: Oscar Oakes >> Death Date: 28 Apr 1893 >> Death Place: Cleveland, Ohio >> Newspaper Information: Newspaper: Norwalk Daily Reflector; Newspaper Date: >> 29 Apr 1893; Newspaper Page: 1 Column: 4; Repository: Hayes Presidential >> Library - Fremont, OH; Years Available: 1882-1892 >> Newspaper Information: Newspaper: Akron Beacon Journal Series; Newspaper >> Date: 29 Apr 1893; Newspaper Page: 3 Column: 5; Repository: Akron-Summit >> County Public Library; Years Available: 1841-51, 1860-1865, 1870, >> 1873-1884, 1886-1888 >> >> >> I would be very interested in reading what it says about Oscar and wish to >> thank you very much in advance for helping me out in this matter! >> >> Very sincerely yours, >> >> Lars E. Oyane >> > Norwaylist > Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hei, I am wondering if anyone can help me with a newspaper account of the events in the following story in Pensacola, FL. I have looked on line for newspapers but did not find anything. I contacted the library in Pensacola by phone and e-mail without any response. Perhaps someone on the list can tell me if a newspaper account can be found. >From Find a Grave, the details about Bernhard Rasmussen: Birth: Jul. 30, 1856 Eigersund kommune Rogaland fylke, Norway Death: May 31, 1901 Burial: Saint John's Cemetery Pensacola Escambia County Florida, USA Plot: Section 10 Lot 23 Space 7 No Marker My father and his parents lived in Lervig in east Stavanger where Abelone's corner store was located. Abelone was also a witness to the baptism of my great uncle's out of wedlock child. The following account was written by Abelone's great grand daughter. The account of the shooting is a bit strange to my ear and I would like a more realistic description if possible. mvh, Jostein Abelone was born at "Hauge" Østenstad, Skjold in 1859. The youngest of four brothers and sisters who survived. Her parents were Quakers. Gudmund Gudmundsen was from Lindanger and Elen Oline, called "Lina" was from Hatlestad. Abelone’s father died when Abelone was only two years old. Her mother was left with four children between the ages of two and eleven. Lina took Abelone with her to Stavanger. Her three brothers all grew up as foster children on different farms in Tysvær, Skjold . Abelone grew up in Stavanger with her mother. Living in cramped housing with barely enough food and clothes. She learned early to struggle for her money. Her confirmation was in the Stavanger Cathedral in 1874. At the age of twenty-two she married steward Bernhard Rasmussen who was from Egersund. Like all sailors, he spent long periods at sea. Abelone had to handle births and childcare by herself. Without relatives and family around, there was little help. Abelone and Bernhard had five children. The first daughter born in 1882 is mentally handicapped; " Sindsyg " or " idiot " as it says in the sources. The last daughter, born in 1895, died after eight months. Abelone’s mother moved in with them now that she was getting older and unable to wash clothes for other people. One day Abelone offered to sail with her husband on an out of country trip. This was in 1901 and the popular steward Rasmussen sailed on Sigval Bergesen’s ship “Langfonn”. Abelone would be a cook aboard ship. She organized childcare for her children and shipped out. Perhaps this was something she regretted later. The trip wasn't what she had thought and hoped. In Pensacola, Florida, the two went for an evening walk. On the way to the docks and the ship a masked man suddenly jumps out of some bushes and shoots Bernhard. He dies aboard ship before the doctor arrives. A grief-stricken Abelone went home to her children in Stavanger. What could she do now? She's a widow; 40 years old with four children, including a developmentally disabled 19 year old. The youngest daughter is only eight. Abelone’s dear old mother of 81 also lives with them. Luckily she got some funds in compensation from Bergesen’s shipping company as well as some money collected by the ship’s crew. With this, she bought a house at Lervigsveien 19. Abelone opens a small shop in his house. This business feeds her and her family. To increase her income she rents out rooms. She was even able to afford a maid.

Hi Bev, THANK YOU and Reina so much. I love this, and am so excited to be working on this project. BECAUSE OF YOU all through the kindness and expertise that you provide for us is so amazing! It just would happen without you, so I am very grateful. Judi On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Bev Anderson <[email protected]> wrote: > Judi - > > I'm glad Reina found this information for you! I just realized when I was > putting in search criteria that I had not checked for the years beginning > 178, so I missed Ole. The only thing I'd change is that Fødd dato is birth > date, not baptism date (døpt/døypt dato), and I had not checked the census > when I did the search. > > Reina is absolutely correct about the variations in spelling, how records > are kept, what's available, etc. She is an excellent researcher! She has > found several things for me through the years that I thought were > impossible to find. > > Beste, > > Bev > > > > On 4/20/2017 12:41 AM, [email protected] wrote: > >> Hello Bev and Judi, >> >> Yes the spelling of the names was not fixed in that time. You will get >> used >> to it. Also failures can be made in the original records, but mostly in >> the >> transcriptions. >> But putting different cues together, one can decide that they were the >> same >> people >> >> The name "Odjer or Odger" is presumably a local name as is the name "Ales, >> Alet, Alis, Aalit" etc. It's not such a frequent norwegian name, which >> makes it easier for you to decide that >> somebody is a familymember. Because the people named their children after >> their own parents, their uncles, aunts, brothers, sisters (on both side) >> etc. >> >> I also saw a child named Ole in 1801 census. >> Here is the baptism of Ole: >> >> <http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase& >> sidenr=1&filnamn=dp14321782&gardpostnr=517&personpostnr= >> 1526&merk=1526#ovre> >> >> Year 1787 born 31/5 >> 1526 Barn Ole m 3105 >> 1527 Far Peder Olsen Furrebøe >> 1528 Mor Aalit Olsdtr >> >> In former Norway it can be confusing because at most places the ministers >> only wrote down baptismal dates. In the records here in Førde there are >> sometimes birthdates mentioned but no >> baptismal dates or only baptismal dates and no birthdates. >> >> Since you know the dates now you can look in the original records to see >> who >> are the sponsors. Sponsors were mostly (in-laws) familymembers or >> acquaintances, neighbors. >> >> I say this now, but I see that only from 1799 timeonwards there are >> original >> baptisms online. The transcriptions at the digital archives are >> presumably >> taken from records in the archives themselves, which are not online! >> So we can'nt reach the original baptisms in between 1764 and 1799 and no >> original weddingrecords in between 1764 and 1783! >> >> <https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb/browse?counties%5B%5D=14 >> &parishes%5B%5D=1432S1&start_year=1750&end_year=1820&text=> >> >> Well fortunately Bev has transcribed and copied all children born from >> Peder >> and Ales Furrebøe, >> >> Here is their weddingrecord (they are online from 1783). >> Right side first item >> >> Engagement/Wedding of Peder Olsen Furrebøe >> 1784 Trolovet 20 Mai i Førde: Peder Olsen Furrebø + pige Aalet Odgiersdr >> Eicheland >> Best men Lars Olsen Gielde and Ole Olsen Qvaal >> Weddingdate 2 July 1784 >> <https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/11405/223?indexing=> >> >> Reina >> > > > > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list= > norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >