Dear friends, A Norwegian-American I also am a composer, my principal passion in life - have been writing music for the past 50++ years! Here is a piece of mine for Clarinet and Piano from around 20 years ago - it is sort of "neoclassical", a mixture of modernist and traditional ideas. I hope you like it. Here's the URL on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eZmVzxtbE8&feature=youtu.be mange takk Richard St. Clair (Massachusetts, USA)

Dear friends, A Norwegian-American I also am a composer, my principal passion in life - have been writing music for the past 50++ years! Here is a piece of mine for Clarinet and Piano from around 20 years ago - it is sort of "neoclassical", a mixture of modernist and traditional ideas. I hope you like it. Here's the URL on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eZmVzxtbE8&feature=youtu.be mange takk Richard St. Clair (Massachusetts, USA)

Rollie, The state of South Dakota did not start keeping vital records until 1905. Some County level records were recorded before then, but I personally think if the dates are not on the gravestone this is going to be a hard pull. Early county records are kept by the state, but I do not see them as searchable. Here you will find contact information for any records held for Union County. I suggest contacting them. Perhaps they can find something for you. Good Luck, Don in Maine USA http://doh.sd.gov/records/county/union.aspx ---------------------------------------- From: "Rollie Natvig" <[email protected]> Subject: [NOR] Kari Olesdtr Staurlid Hovland 1809- Birth 6 NOV 1809 . Hola on Hovland, Naddvik, Norway Death Union County, South Dakota, USA

Mange Tusen Takk, Hans! I have forwarded them on to my friend. I know she will be thrilled with this info! I'm going to write to you off-list with some Myhre info on the one family I keep running into. Turns out they were near neighbors of my ancestors and relatives, so they all likely knew each other. I know there are multiple Myhre farms so they may not be related to you, but maybe you know someone who is tracking the family. Beste hilsen, Bev On 5/18/2017 9:58 AM, Hans Myhre wrote: > The Churchbooks on Nes has burned so we only have klokkerbok and only > baptisms to 1801 after that all. > Peder Vernersen Kiendli wife unknown > Son: > Hendrich Pedersen bapt. 08.08.1700 Kiendli, Nes wife unknown > son: > Hans Hendrichsen bapt, 21.01.1734 Texumeie, Nes wife Kari > Erichsdatter Grefsengeie > Daughter: > Helvig Hansdatter Grefengeie bapt, 29.08.1762 husband Other Larsen > bapt. 08.05.1768 Sølsbergeie son of Lars Svendsen Grefsengeie b. > 1737 wife Lisbeth Ottersdatter 1738 > Son: > Hans Othersen bapt. 03.11.1797 Grefsengeie Nes Agnethe Olsdatter > married woman from Ringsaker > Son: > Otto Hansen born 31.05.1826 Grefsengeie Out of wedlock. wife Karen > Andersdatter b, 06.10.1828 Vardal in Oppland > 8 children. > > Hans Myhre > > Den 18.05.2017 02:12, skrev Bev Anderson: >> Hans - >> >> In response to your inquiry which I copied and pasted in an email to >> her, my friend answered with an emphatic affirmative answer: >> >> "Do I want more info on the family of my great aunt's mother in law >> ? Of course!" >> >> That's a Please, Yes, and Thank You! :-) >> >> Best Wishes, >> Bev >> >> >>

Dear Friends, I am looking for a date of death for Kari Hovland born 06 November 1809 on Hovland, part of the Naddvik gard just east of Ardal, Sognefjord, Norway. She was the wife of Hans Orbech Oysteinsson Hovland his dates are Birth 1809 • Aardal i Sogn, Norway Death 1851 • Naddvik, Sogn og Fjordane, Norway. In 1870 she emigrated with their daughter Maren Hanson Ørbech Hovland Birth 20 OCT 1835 • Aardal i Sogn, Norway Death 15 DEC.1882 • Union County South Dakota and Maren's husband, Ola Andersson Hereid Birth 24 DECEMBER 1835 • Aardal i Sogn, Norway Death 23 OCT 1906 • Union County South Dakota. Ole Maren and Kari grave including photo can be found at; https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Hereid&GSiman=1&GScid=1973015&GRid=68575158& What this does not show is Kari, now going as Carrie O Hoveland date of death. 1880 census https:// www.ancestry.com/interactive/6742/4240107-00035/34594439?backurl=https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/8671474/person/-864457915/facts/citation/194059205/edit/record shows Kari/Carrie as now going by Carin Olson and the Hereid's using the last name Anderson (Olaf and Marin, the childrens names prove that this is still the right family no matter what last name they are using). So we know Kari is still alive in 1880. Can anyone help me find a date of death for Kari? Your help is most appreciated Rollie Natvig

Hei all, I finally found the newspaper articles about this Norwegian's killing. I had asked the list a couple of times so I thought that I would provide "closure" so that anyone losing sleep would be relieved. I have only looked at the Daily News for the articles of interest but there may be other newspapers at other times available in the digital collection. The "Bernhardt Rasmundsen" shooting story is on page 8, column 4. http://ufdc.ufl.edu/UF00075893/00540/8j mvh, Jostein

Hans - In response to your inquiry which I copied and pasted in an email to her, my friend answered with an emphatic affirmative answer: "Do I want more info on the family of my great aunt's mother in law ? Of course!" That's a Please, Yes, and Thank You! :-) Best Wishes, Bev

I have sent Chris the information he is looking for off List. Don in Maine USA ---------------------------------------- From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NOR] RE Rismoen Farm Question Can anyone tell me how a cousin who is coming to Norway in June could find the Rismoen farm in Eftelot Parish of Buskerud ? I do have info that says it has been called Haugmo since 1957- From Sandsvaer Historie by Aage Lunde - I have the copies of the pages 695-697 but it is in Norwegian and I cannot read it- My Great Great Grandparents Anton and Caroline Olsdatter (Hovslia) Johanneson Rismoen left from this farm in 1906. Any help finding the location would be greatly appreciated. You can email me direct at [email protected] Thanks, Chris Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone tell me how a cousin who is coming to Norway in June could find the Rismoen farm in Eftelot Parish of Buskerud ? I do have info that says it has been called Haugmo since 1957- From Sandsvaer Historie by Aage Lunde - I have the copies of the pages 695-697 but it is in Norwegian and I cannot read it- My Great Great Grandparents Anton and Caroline Olsdatter (Hovslia) Johanneson Rismoen left from this farm in 1906. Any help finding the location would be greatly appreciated. You can email me direct at [email protected] Thanks, Chris

Gratulerer med 17. mai! Ha en strålende dag! to all Norwegian friends! Don in Maine USA ---------------------------------------- From: "Bev Anderson" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 9:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NOR] Happy 17th of May! :-) Lovely greeting, Lars, mange takk! Happy Syttende Mai to you, to everyone in Norway, and to all the Listers and those with Norwegian heritage who take so much pride in being Norwegian (or part Norwegian). I hope everyone has a wonderful day, and if you're doing genealogy research, a productive day where you find lots of info! Beste hilsen, Bev On 5/17/2017 6:01 AM, Lars E. Oyane wrote: > Dear Listers! > > Happy «syttendemai» - 17th of May - everyone! That this day becomes a GREAT day of research success for everyone interested in Norwegian genealogy! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Happy Syttendemai! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lars E. Oyane" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:01:06 AM Subject: [NOR] Happy 17th of May! Dear Listers! Happy «syttendemai» - 17th of May - everyone! That this day becomes a GREAT day of research success for everyone interested in Norwegian genealogy! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Listers, I have a real challenge for you today which I have tried to solve for 35 years. Maybe now it’s time to finally figure out what happened to this guy? Jens Thorson Hauge, aka Jens or James Thompson (his father’s name was Thor Thomasson!), born in Luster Co., Norway Nov. 3, 1852, emigrated in 1868 to Blooming Prairie township, Dane Co, WI where he was a farm laborer with his aunt Betsy Johnson by the time of the 1870-census. He MAY be identical to a carpenter named Jens Thompson who lived single in Chicago, IL in 1880. Then when his mother died in Norway in 1904, Jens’ brother-in-law Torbjorn Heltne of Nelson, WI, an 1893 emigrant, wrote a letter to the probate court stating the following: «Jens Thompson had lived in Vernon Co., WI, then in La Crosse, WI, before moving to Minneapolis, MN. There he was married and did have a family, but about 1892 he left the family for Moorhead, MN, then on to Idaho, but he supposedly died at Spokane, WA about 1895». When I first tried to work on this challenge back in the early 1980’s, I had no records to consult trying to find out what really happened to Jens. Nowadays it should be easier, but is it possible to find out what the probate court never managed to find 113 years ago? What happened to Jens and what about his family in Minneapolis, MN? Ancestry.com shows these marriages in Hennepin Co., MN: ** James H. Thompson and Mary Carbine - married Nov. 15, 1885 ** James H. Thompson and Ella Smith - married Nov. 16, 1885 And I find a birth at the St. Paul Lutheran church in Minneapolis, MN on Nov. 1, 1886 of Christian, son of Jens Thomassen and wife Marit! But I have no idea whether any of these records pertain to «my» Jens! Let me add that Jens emigrated in 1868 along with a brother: Nels Thorson Hauge, aka Nels Thompson(?), born in Luster Co., Norway Mar. 4, 1845, but he supposedly had died prior to 1904 leaving no children! Any suggestions in regard to Jens/James Thompson will be very much appreciated! Thanks a million and again: a very happy syttendemai celebration to all of you! Very sincerely yours, Lars E Oyane

I accept. Do you need more about Hans Ottersen and Agnethe Olsdatter? She was fro Ringsaker and had a illegetimate Ole Pedersen b. Mar.14.1814 Soug , Ringsaker. Hans married 1831 Nes Severine Erichsdatter . Son: Andreas b. 1837. In 1865 he was a shoemaker and divorsed. Hans Den 17.05.2017 09:14, skrev Bev Anderson: > You are correct, Halvor, and I appreciate you letting me know. I feel > very contrite. > > My deepest apologies to Hans! I saw the H... and didn't think or read > further, but oddly enough I told my friend who is connected to this > family that 'Hans sent the info' so she knows where I got it. I was > composing an email to her at the same time and trying to get ready to > go grocery shopping, and my cat was pestering me for attention. I'm > not as good at multitasking as I used to be in my youth, but that's > still no excuse for not getting your name correct. I normally remember > your last name because there was a family with the same name and > spelling (Myhre) in the same county not all that far where I was born > and raised; I didn't know them growing up, but I was aware of the > family with the same name. They lived some +/- 25 miles from where our > family farm was and they were near other relatives who lived by the > town where we went to the doctor and that town has the only hospital > within a fifty mile radius and most people in the area were born there. > > I'm sorry, Hans. Please accept my belated gratitude to you, the > correct person, for your excellent work in finding the information for > my genealogy friend. She has had a brick wall on that line for a long > time, had asked my advice and assistance on Oline's family because the > "Lillehammer" reference had thrown her off, and she was thrilled to > get the information. > > Bev > > > On 5/17/2017 12:50 AM, Halvor Stokke wrote: >> Hello Bev >> I think Hans is the right person to thank this time ???? >> >> Halvor In Lier >> >> -----Opprinnelig melding----- >> Fra: NORWAY >> [mailto:[email protected]] På vegne >> av Bev Anderson >> Sendt: tirsdag 16. mai 2017 16.05 >> Til: [email protected] >> Emne: Re: [NOR] Word in confirmation record >> >> :-) Mange Tusen Takk, Halvor! >> >> What is the source of your info? The dates provide me with a much >> shorter time to find the microfilm images that I have not already >> found for the siblings, and while I knew Karen Andersdatter had to >> have died during those ten years between the censuses, I hadn't found >> her death record yet, so that is invaluable. (Ditto info on the >> second wife and their child.) Thank you so much. Having dates helps >> a great deal when one does research by family grouping (as I do), >> rather than just one person. >> >> Oddly, it is the emigration information that I am having problems with. >> Johan Ottosen/Ottesen, Oline's brother, also emigrated to America. >> 1900 US census lists Johan's year of immigration as 1882 (they were >> married in 1895, his wife was born in Iowa to Norwegian parents; they >> had two children). He died in Polk County, Minnesota in 1902 and I >> have the cemetery information on him. >> >> Of the two records for Helene Ottosdatter moving to Eidsfold in 1884 >> (two different months), I suspect one of them may technically be for >> Oline, but in the image section the Utflytting records are a mess for >> Ringsaker (if the person writing the records was as disorganized as >> the records, he could have easily made a mistake in recording the two >> sisters as one and the same for two different months; I just do not >> know). While I can find one record for Helene in the proper year, I >> haven't yet found the other one. The person recording the >> information puts different years in the column for Utflytting, but >> records them in different years, and that is consistent for a ten >> year period that I searched; it's as though he has a stack of papers >> from many different years, then sits down and records them when he >> has the time; they're not in chronological order. >> >> In the old Digitalarkivet database for transcriptions, I found >> Utflytting records for Oline Ottosdatter's siblings moving to Eidsfold, >> Østfold: Ole (1880), Karoline (1882), and two records for two >> different months of 1884 for Helene (one of which I suspect should >> technically be for Oline - Eidsfold is the only place I found with >> the location name Fjeldberg, which is the name she used as her >> American surname when she married Christian Evensen Solien in 1895 in >> Polk County, Minnesota (she uses the spelling Lina for her first >> name, middle initial O, and other records show her birth name as >> Ottoson [sic]). Christian/Christ/Krist was born in Vestre Toten, and >> I have the information on him. >> >> I have two years of immigration for Oline (US records), but don't >> know if either one is correct; she used the names Oline/Lina O. >> Fjeldberg, but in other records the name Ottoson/Otteson is recorded >> for her birth name. I have not found either her or Johan >> Ottosen/Ottesen in the Digitalarkivet emigration databases for >> Oslo/Kristiania or Fredrikstad. >> http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=uf04121814&spraak=e&metanr=3437 >> >> >> If you know a shortcut to finding emigration information in Norwegian >> records, that would be a great addition to these records! >> >> Again, Mange tusen takk! I appreciate your help! >> >> Bev >> >> >> On 5/16/2017 6:15 AM, Hans Myhre wrote: >>> Here is the family. >>> Otto Hansen born 31.05.1826 Grefsengeie Nes out of wedlock, married ? >>> Vardal/Gjøvik? >>> Karen Andersdatter born 06.10.1828 Vardal, Oppland >>> Children: >>> Anton Ottosen born 01.01.1851 Kolbergseie. Øvre Vardal, Oppland >>> married 28.12.1875 Ringsaker Ingeborg Jensdatter, Farlibakken. >>> Agnethe Ottosdatter b, 11.12.1853 Krogvigeie, Ringsaker Ole Ottosen b, >>> 12.10.1854 Krogvigeie, Ringsaker Helene Ottosdatter b, 12.10.1856 >>> Steensli under Vestre Saugstad, Ringsaker Johan Ottosen b. 15.10.1858 >>> Vestre Saugstadeie Ringsaker Caroline Ottosdatter b. 17.10.1860 >>> Sørlienseie, Brøttum Julie Ottosdatter b. 15.06.1863 Tandeeie, >>> Ringsaker Oline Ottosdatter b. 22.01.1866 KJoseie, Ringsaker >>> >>> Karen Andersdatter died 03.02.1874 Økildsrudeie, Ringsaker Otto >>> married 2) 23.09.1874 Kari Evensdatter b. 18.08.1844 Glestadeie, >>> Veldre >>> Children: >>> Kristine Ottosdatter b. 19.01.1875 Frislieie, Veldre. dide 25.02.1875 >>> Frislieie, Veldre. >>> >>> Confirmation: for one of the sibllngs it says Godt= Good and the rest >>> it says Temmelig godt=Pretty good. >>> I have not been searching for emigration or mooving out of the parish. >>> Hans Myhre >>> >> > > Norwaylist > Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

:-) Lovely greeting, Lars, mange takk! Happy Syttende Mai to you, to everyone in Norway, and to all the Listers and those with Norwegian heritage who take so much pride in being Norwegian (or part Norwegian). I hope everyone has a wonderful day, and if you're doing genealogy research, a productive day where you find lots of info! Beste hilsen, Bev On 5/17/2017 6:01 AM, Lars E. Oyane wrote: > Dear Listers! > > Happy «syttendemai» - 17th of May - everyone! That this day becomes a GREAT day of research success for everyone interested in Norwegian genealogy! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > >

Hello Bev I think Hans is the right person to thank this time ???? Halvor In Lier -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: NORWAY [mailto:[email protected]] På vegne av Bev Anderson Sendt: tirsdag 16. mai 2017 16.05 Til: [email protected] Emne: Re: [NOR] Word in confirmation record :-) Mange Tusen Takk, Halvor! What is the source of your info? The dates provide me with a much shorter time to find the microfilm images that I have not already found for the siblings, and while I knew Karen Andersdatter had to have died during those ten years between the censuses, I hadn't found her death record yet, so that is invaluable. (Ditto info on the second wife and their child.) Thank you so much. Having dates helps a great deal when one does research by family grouping (as I do), rather than just one person. Oddly, it is the emigration information that I am having problems with. Johan Ottosen/Ottesen, Oline's brother, also emigrated to America. 1900 US census lists Johan's year of immigration as 1882 (they were married in 1895, his wife was born in Iowa to Norwegian parents; they had two children). He died in Polk County, Minnesota in 1902 and I have the cemetery information on him. Of the two records for Helene Ottosdatter moving to Eidsfold in 1884 (two different months), I suspect one of them may technically be for Oline, but in the image section the Utflytting records are a mess for Ringsaker (if the person writing the records was as disorganized as the records, he could have easily made a mistake in recording the two sisters as one and the same for two different months; I just do not know). While I can find one record for Helene in the proper year, I haven't yet found the other one. The person recording the information puts different years in the column for Utflytting, but records them in different years, and that is consistent for a ten year period that I searched; it's as though he has a stack of papers from many different years, then sits down and records them when he has the time; they're not in chronological order. In the old Digitalarkivet database for transcriptions, I found Utflytting records for Oline Ottosdatter's siblings moving to Eidsfold, Østfold: Ole (1880), Karoline (1882), and two records for two different months of 1884 for Helene (one of which I suspect should technically be for Oline - Eidsfold is the only place I found with the location name Fjeldberg, which is the name she used as her American surname when she married Christian Evensen Solien in 1895 in Polk County, Minnesota (she uses the spelling Lina for her first name, middle initial O, and other records show her birth name as Ottoson [sic]). Christian/Christ/Krist was born in Vestre Toten, and I have the information on him. I have two years of immigration for Oline (US records), but don't know if either one is correct; she used the names Oline/Lina O. Fjeldberg, but in other records the name Ottoson/Otteson is recorded for her birth name. I have not found either her or Johan Ottosen/Ottesen in the Digitalarkivet emigration databases for Oslo/Kristiania or Fredrikstad. http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=uf04121814&spraak=e&metanr=3437 If you know a shortcut to finding emigration information in Norwegian records, that would be a great addition to these records! Again, Mange tusen takk! I appreciate your help! Bev On 5/16/2017 6:15 AM, Hans Myhre wrote: > Here is the family. > Otto Hansen born 31.05.1826 Grefsengeie Nes out of wedlock, married ? > Vardal/Gjøvik? > Karen Andersdatter born 06.10.1828 Vardal, Oppland > Children: > Anton Ottosen born 01.01.1851 Kolbergseie. Øvre Vardal, Oppland > married 28.12.1875 Ringsaker Ingeborg Jensdatter, Farlibakken. > Agnethe Ottosdatter b, 11.12.1853 Krogvigeie, Ringsaker Ole Ottosen b, > 12.10.1854 Krogvigeie, Ringsaker Helene Ottosdatter b, 12.10.1856 > Steensli under Vestre Saugstad, Ringsaker Johan Ottosen b. 15.10.1858 > Vestre Saugstadeie Ringsaker Caroline Ottosdatter b. 17.10.1860 > Sørlienseie, Brøttum Julie Ottosdatter b. 15.06.1863 Tandeeie, > Ringsaker Oline Ottosdatter b. 22.01.1866 KJoseie, Ringsaker > > Karen Andersdatter died 03.02.1874 Økildsrudeie, Ringsaker Otto > married 2) 23.09.1874 Kari Evensdatter b. 18.08.1844 Glestadeie, > Veldre > Children: > Kristine Ottosdatter b. 19.01.1875 Frislieie, Veldre. dide 25.02.1875 > Frislieie, Veldre. > > Confirmation: for one of the sibllngs it says Godt= Good and the rest > it says Temmelig godt=Pretty good. > I have not been searching for emigration or mooving out of the parish. > Hans Myhre > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Hans - Thank you! :-) I've copied and pasted your query in an email to my friend who is researching Oline Ottosdatter/Ottesdatter Fjeldberg's line which connects to someone she is related to. I know she works with family groupings like I do, so it wouldn't surprise me if she said yes and will add the info to her database. She has a large well-documented genealogy database, and she and I have worked together on each of our own genealogy lines as well as the side lineages if either of us gets stuck and needs help. She's at work right now so I'm not sure when she will get back to me. Beste, Bev On 5/17/2017 3:24 AM, Hans Myhre wrote: > I accept. Do you need more about Hans Ottersen and Agnethe > Olsdatter? She was fro Ringsaker and had a illegetimate Ole Pedersen > b. Mar.14.1814 Soug , Ringsaker. > Hans married 1831 Nes Severine Erichsdatter . Son: Andreas b. 1837. > In 1865 he was a shoemaker and divorsed. > Hans >

Dear Listers! Happy «syttendemai» - 17th of May - everyone! That this day becomes a GREAT day of research success for everyone interested in Norwegian genealogy! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane

You are correct, Halvor, and I appreciate you letting me know. I feel very contrite. My deepest apologies to Hans! I saw the H... and didn't think or read further, but oddly enough I told my friend who is connected to this family that 'Hans sent the info' so she knows where I got it. I was composing an email to her at the same time and trying to get ready to go grocery shopping, and my cat was pestering me for attention. I'm not as good at multitasking as I used to be in my youth, but that's still no excuse for not getting your name correct. I normally remember your last name because there was a family with the same name and spelling (Myhre) in the same county not all that far where I was born and raised; I didn't know them growing up, but I was aware of the family with the same name. They lived some +/- 25 miles from where our family farm was and they were near other relatives who lived by the town where we went to the doctor and that town has the only hospital within a fifty mile radius and most people in the area were born there. I'm sorry, Hans. Please accept my belated gratitude to you, the correct person, for your excellent work in finding the information for my genealogy friend. She has had a brick wall on that line for a long time, had asked my advice and assistance on Oline's family because the "Lillehammer" reference had thrown her off, and she was thrilled to get the information. Bev On 5/17/2017 12:50 AM, Halvor Stokke wrote: > Hello Bev > I think Hans is the right person to thank this time ???? > > Halvor In Lier > > -----Opprinnelig melding----- > Fra: NORWAY [mailto:[email protected]] På vegne av Bev Anderson > Sendt: tirsdag 16. mai 2017 16.05 > Til: [email protected] > Emne: Re: [NOR] Word in confirmation record > > :-) Mange Tusen Takk, Halvor! > > What is the source of your info? The dates provide me with a much shorter time to find the microfilm images that I have not already found for the siblings, and while I knew Karen Andersdatter had to have died during those ten years between the censuses, I hadn't found her death record yet, so that is invaluable. (Ditto info on the second wife and their child.) Thank you so much. Having dates helps a great deal when one does research by family grouping (as I do), rather than just one person. > > Oddly, it is the emigration information that I am having problems with. > Johan Ottosen/Ottesen, Oline's brother, also emigrated to America. 1900 US census lists Johan's year of immigration as 1882 (they were married in 1895, his wife was born in Iowa to Norwegian parents; they had two children). He died in Polk County, Minnesota in 1902 and I have the cemetery information on him. > > Of the two records for Helene Ottosdatter moving to Eidsfold in 1884 (two different months), I suspect one of them may technically be for Oline, but in the image section the Utflytting records are a mess for Ringsaker (if the person writing the records was as disorganized as the records, he could have easily made a mistake in recording the two sisters as one and the same for two different months; I just do not know). While I can find one record for Helene in the proper year, I haven't yet found the other one. The person recording the information puts different years in the column for Utflytting, but records them in different years, and that is consistent for a ten year period that I searched; it's as though he has a stack of papers from many different years, then sits down and records them when he has the time; they're not in chronological order. > > In the old Digitalarkivet database for transcriptions, I found Utflytting records for Oline Ottosdatter's siblings moving to Eidsfold, > Østfold: Ole (1880), Karoline (1882), and two records for two different months of 1884 for Helene (one of which I suspect should technically be for Oline - Eidsfold is the only place I found with the location name Fjeldberg, which is the name she used as her American surname when she married Christian Evensen Solien in 1895 in Polk County, Minnesota (she uses the spelling Lina for her first name, middle initial O, and other records show her birth name as Ottoson [sic]). Christian/Christ/Krist was born in Vestre Toten, and I have the information on him. > > I have two years of immigration for Oline (US records), but don't know if either one is correct; she used the names Oline/Lina O. Fjeldberg, but in other records the name Ottoson/Otteson is recorded for her birth name. I have not found either her or Johan Ottosen/Ottesen in the Digitalarkivet emigration databases for Oslo/Kristiania or Fredrikstad. > http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=uf04121814&spraak=e&metanr=3437 > > If you know a shortcut to finding emigration information in Norwegian records, that would be a great addition to these records! > > Again, Mange tusen takk! I appreciate your help! > > Bev > > > On 5/16/2017 6:15 AM, Hans Myhre wrote: >> Here is the family. >> Otto Hansen born 31.05.1826 Grefsengeie Nes out of wedlock, married ? >> Vardal/Gjøvik? >> Karen Andersdatter born 06.10.1828 Vardal, Oppland >> Children: >> Anton Ottosen born 01.01.1851 Kolbergseie. Øvre Vardal, Oppland >> married 28.12.1875 Ringsaker Ingeborg Jensdatter, Farlibakken. >> Agnethe Ottosdatter b, 11.12.1853 Krogvigeie, Ringsaker Ole Ottosen b, >> 12.10.1854 Krogvigeie, Ringsaker Helene Ottosdatter b, 12.10.1856 >> Steensli under Vestre Saugstad, Ringsaker Johan Ottosen b. 15.10.1858 >> Vestre Saugstadeie Ringsaker Caroline Ottosdatter b. 17.10.1860 >> Sørlienseie, Brøttum Julie Ottosdatter b. 15.06.1863 Tandeeie, >> Ringsaker Oline Ottosdatter b. 22.01.1866 KJoseie, Ringsaker >> >> Karen Andersdatter died 03.02.1874 Økildsrudeie, Ringsaker Otto >> married 2) 23.09.1874 Kari Evensdatter b. 18.08.1844 Glestadeie, >> Veldre >> Children: >> Kristine Ottosdatter b. 19.01.1875 Frislieie, Veldre. dide 25.02.1875 >> Frislieie, Veldre. >> >> Confirmation: for one of the sibllngs it says Godt= Good and the rest >> it says Temmelig godt=Pretty good. >> I have not been searching for emigration or mooving out of the parish. >> Hans Myhre >> >

Dear Listers! This is a real challenge that I have been working with for years. Maybe now, with the numerous newspapers that have been digitized, is it possible to figure out what happened to this guy? Edward Sidenbender, son av Charles Thomas aka Thomas C. Sidenbender from IN (1857-1945) and Guro aka Julia nee Beim from Norway (1864-1891), was born in St. Paul, MN Apr. 20, 1883, but came at the age 7 to a local orphanage in St. Paul, MN where he grew up. His two younger brothers, Clarence and John, were adopted in 1895 by a family in Dodge Co., MN, but for some unknown reason they didn’t take Edward, and in the 1900 census we find Edward Senderbender as a farm laborer with the Alfred Frederick family in Dunbar township, Faribault Co., MN, then said to be born in MN in December of 1882! He is no longer with the Fredericks in 1905 or 1910, but nobody knows what happened to him! I should add that his father Charles Thomas aka Thomas C. Sidenbender also disappeared from St. Paul, MN in the early 1890’s, and he didn’t she up in any census records until 1930, then residing with a cousin in Vigo Co., IN. He later moved to Tampa, FL, and he died at a Soldier’s Home at Bay Pines, FL June 18, 1945. (He had fought in the US Army against the Indians at Ft. Yates, ND in the late 1870’s!) Could it be that father and son stayed in contact between 1900 and 1930? I have no idea… Any suggestions would be more than welcome! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane

Here is the family. Otto Hansen born 31.05.1826 Grefsengeie Nes out of wedlock, married ? Vardal/Gjøvik? Karen Andersdatter born 06.10.1828 Vardal, Oppland Children: Anton Ottosen born 01.01.1851 Kolbergseie. Øvre Vardal, Oppland married 28.12.1875 Ringsaker Ingeborg Jensdatter, Farlibakken. Agnethe Ottosdatter b, 11.12.1853 Krogvigeie, Ringsaker Ole Ottosen b, 12.10.1854 Krogvigeie, Ringsaker Helene Ottosdatter b, 12.10.1856 Steensli under Vestre Saugstad, Ringsaker Johan Ottosen b. 15.10.1858 Vestre Saugstadeie Ringsaker Caroline Ottosdatter b. 17.10.1860 Sørlienseie, Brøttum Julie Ottosdatter b. 15.06.1863 Tandeeie, Ringsaker Oline Ottosdatter b. 22.01.1866 KJoseie, Ringsaker Karen Andersdatter died 03.02.1874 Økildsrudeie, Ringsaker Otto married 2) 23.09.1874 Kari Evensdatter b. 18.08.1844 Glestadeie, Veldre Children: Kristine Ottosdatter b. 19.01.1875 Frislieie, Veldre. dide 25.02.1875 Frislieie, Veldre. Confirmation: for one of the sibllngs it says Godt= Good and the rest it says Temmelig godt=Pretty good. I have not been searching for emigration or mooving out of the parish. Hans Myhre Den 16.05.2017 11:06, skrev Halvor Stokke: > As I can read it : Temmelig godt - > > Halvor in Lier > > -----Opprinnelig melding----- > Fra: NORWAY [mailto:[email protected]] På vegne av Bev Anderson > Sendt: tirsdag 16. mai 2017 09.28 > Til: Norway List <[email protected]> > Emne: [NOR] Word in confirmation record > > I have everything in this record except the word before godt in how this girl did in confirmation class. I couldn't see anything in Otto's dictionary that might compare. There's someone else further down the page that has the same words. Can anyone read the word and translate? > > SAH, Ringsaker prestekontor, K/Ka/L0012: Parish register (official) no. > 12, 1879-1890, p. 200 > https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070110660058 > Record #40: Oline Ottosdatter, Born 22 January 1866, Baptized 11 March 1866; born at Kjoseie, residing at Økelsrud; Parents: Inderst Otto Hansen and Karen Andersdatter; Smallpox vaccination 1866. ___ godt. > > This poor girl went from her parents home to being a ward of the parish as a pauper, so she had a pretty hard life. Eventually she emigrated to America. Three of her siblings moved to Eidsvold, and while I haven't found an utflytting record, I think Oline made it there, too. It's the only connection to the name Fjeldberg I can find (it's a hospital in Eidsvold), which is what she used as a surname in America. American records have her "from Lillehammer" but neither I nor the person who is connected to her can find a record of her or her family in Lillehammer. > > Mange takk! > Bev > > > > > > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message