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    1. [NOR] Re: NORWAY Digest, Vol 13, Issue 102
    2. Tom Gerber
    3. There is not one perfect source. Depends on the area, region and time period.. For the NE USA I like this site: http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html For Minnesota region the MN Historical society has a great newspaper search for the area including lots of old photos: www.mnhs.org Hope these help > T > Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 13:00:32 -0500 > From: "Carol" <hansencj2010@gmail.com> > Subject: [NOR] Opinion needed > To: <norway@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <006101d3d351$51c8eb50$f55ac1f0$@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Listers: In your experience, what is the best websites to locate > obituaries > in newspapers? I am willing to pay but not for something that is not up to > par. >

    04/13/2018 12:06:07
    1. [NOR] Opinion needed
    2. Carol
    3. Listers: In your experience, what is the best websites to locate obituaries in newspapers? I am willing to pay but not for something that is not up to par. Carol J. Hansen hansencj2010@gmail.com 218-329-6979

    04/13/2018 12:00:32
    1. [NOR] Re: Heroes of Telemark
    2. Bev Anderson
    3. The Heavy Water War (Norwegian with English subtitles) https://www.amazon.com/Heavy-Water-War-Anna-Friel/dp/B01B21LUPO/ The King's Choice (Norwegian with English subtitles) https://www.amazon.com/Kings-Choice-Jesper-Christensen/dp/B07673TV86/ Trailer: The Heavy Water War https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_K3Ry2K4yNE The King's Choice (2017) Trailer (Norwegian with English subtitles - click on "Show More" and there's a description of the movie) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNtu-bCGi18 I highly recommend getting good movies or documentaries where people speak Norwegian (or Swedish or Danish) and there are English subtitles.  I use them to get my ears attuned to hearing the spoken language, hearing the cadence, the syllables stressed, unstressed.  As long as actors or voice-over speakers don't speak too fast and enunciate clearly, I can understand a few of the words, and then listen and understand more and more if I watch them fairly often, and I practice some of the words and hope I get at least a few pronounced correctly.  The terms we read all the time in genealogy sources I can understand without translation. Of the limited words I understand, Norwegian and Swedish are easier for me.  Danish sounds very guttural (more German) and pretty much defeats my efforts at trying to speak proper Danish pronunciation because they pronounce so many words back and down in the throat.  I suspect one has to be born into the language to say the words the way they do. Beste, Bev On 4/10/2018 3:40 PM, Nancy Amols wrote: > There is also a British series called > : The Heavy Water War. > > Nancy Amols > > > On Tue, Apr 10, 2018, 3:15 PM Bev Anderson <bevsbibelots@brainerd.net> > wrote: > >> I know we're talking about two different WWII incidents, only I don't >> know the one Doris talked about. However, the Heroes of Telemark are >> famous and here are a few links with historical details..., and info on >> the movie and the link to the movie on YouTube. I don't know how >> accurate the movie is, but it is very dramatic (put it on full screen on >> your computer or laptop). I've seen it at least two or three times >> several years ago and I'm going to watch it again. >> >> Beste, >> Bev >> >> Norwegian heavy water sabotage >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_heavy_water_sabotage >> >> Last hero of Telemark: The man who helped stop Hitler's A-bomb [25 April >> 2013] >> http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-22298739 >> >> 1943: The Heroes of Telemark >> >> https://www.hydro.com/en/about-hydro/Our-history/1929---1945/1943-The-Heroes-of-Telemark/ >> >> /The Heroes of Telemark/ [This is about the movie.] >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heroes_of_Telemark >> >> 1965 The Heroes of Telemark FULL Movie >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOiZswNfRis >> >> The Heroes of Telemark [movie for sale on Amazon] >> https://www.amazon.com/Heroes-Telemark-Richard-Harris/dp/B004IFYMXE >> Look at the titles for other movies and books for other titles offered. >> Perhaps the incident Doris talked about is among them. >> >> >> >>

    04/10/2018 07:05:02
    1. [NOR] Re: Norwegian Ships in World War II
    2. John Ferman
    3. The book I read was "The Winter Fortress" by Neal Bascomb. It has a very detailed index. The destruction was not a one time thing. There had to be several missions to scout the territory, how to get inside, how to obliterate the electrolysis cells, how to destroy the heavy water inventory ( just dumping it in the river works). Another book by one of the prime operators, Knut Haukelid, is "Skis Against The Atom." Sent from iPad John Ferman Minneapolis, MN My doctor says I have a malformed public-duty gland and as a result have a severe morale fibre deficiency, so I should not be expected to save the world." > On Apr 10, 2018, at 6:01 AM, norway-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > > I've read current articles on the destruction of the heavy water plant, in > recent archaeology magazines. Apparently when they got into the plant, it > was in good shape, simply deserted, as if the Nazis knew the game was up > and they had to just get out while they could. It was in a well hidden > place. I didn't realize books had been written on the topic. Do you know > tittles? It's all interesting stuff.

    04/10/2018 06:19:42
    1. [NOR] Re: Mt. Olive cemetery in Chicago, IL - help to avoid 1-800 number?
    2. Lars E. Oyane
    3. Dear Listers! I finally got in contact with Mt. Olive cemetery! The old number I had has been replaced by a new one, so everything has been taken care of! Thank you for listening! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > On Apr 10, 2018, at 9:39 AM, Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no> wrote: > > Dear Listers! > > In the past I have several times talked to the Mt. Olive cemetery in Chicago, IL in order to get some additional information about specific Norwegian emigrants who are buried there. Normally that has never been a problem, however, as I now try, and I have tried the whole day yesterday as well as this morning (your time), but to no avail, nobody answers! > > Their number, which I can call for free: (773)794-0707 > > I realize there is also this number: (800)587-3996 > > however, I am unable to call the 1-800 numbers from Europe, so what do I do? > > Is some kind soul willing to call them on my behalf, or is there another number I can call from Europe which is not a 1-800 number? > > Thanks million for any suggestions! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > >

    04/10/2018 03:34:24
    1. [NOR] Re: Heroes of Telemark
    2. Nancy Amols
    3. There is also a British series called : The Heavy Water War. Nancy Amols On Tue, Apr 10, 2018, 3:15 PM Bev Anderson <bevsbibelots@brainerd.net> wrote: > I know we're talking about two different WWII incidents, only I don't > know the one Doris talked about. However, the Heroes of Telemark are > famous and here are a few links with historical details..., and info on > the movie and the link to the movie on YouTube. I don't know how > accurate the movie is, but it is very dramatic (put it on full screen on > your computer or laptop). I've seen it at least two or three times > several years ago and I'm going to watch it again. > > Beste, > Bev > > Norwegian heavy water sabotage > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_heavy_water_sabotage > > Last hero of Telemark: The man who helped stop Hitler's A-bomb [25 April > 2013] > http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-22298739 > > 1943: The Heroes of Telemark > > https://www.hydro.com/en/about-hydro/Our-history/1929---1945/1943-The-Heroes-of-Telemark/ > > /The Heroes of Telemark/ [This is about the movie.] > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heroes_of_Telemark > > 1965 The Heroes of Telemark FULL Movie > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOiZswNfRis > > The Heroes of Telemark [movie for sale on Amazon] > https://www.amazon.com/Heroes-Telemark-Richard-Harris/dp/B004IFYMXE > Look at the titles for other movies and books for other titles offered. > Perhaps the incident Doris talked about is among them. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Norwaylist Archiveshttp:// > archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:norway-leave@rootsweb.com > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/norway@rootsweb.com/ > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

    04/10/2018 02:40:35
    1. [NOR] Heroes of Telemark
    2. Bev Anderson
    3. I know we're talking about two different WWII incidents, only I don't know the one Doris talked about.  However, the Heroes of Telemark are famous and here are a few links with historical details..., and info on the movie and the link to the movie on YouTube.  I don't know how accurate the movie is, but it is very dramatic (put it on full screen on your computer or laptop).  I've seen it at least two or three times several years ago and I'm going to watch it again. Beste, Bev Norwegian heavy water sabotage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_heavy_water_sabotage Last hero of Telemark: The man who helped stop Hitler's A-bomb [25 April 2013] http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-22298739 1943: The Heroes of Telemark https://www.hydro.com/en/about-hydro/Our-history/1929---1945/1943-The-Heroes-of-Telemark/ /The Heroes of Telemark/  [This is about the movie.] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heroes_of_Telemark 1965 The Heroes of Telemark FULL Movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOiZswNfRis The Heroes of Telemark [movie for sale on Amazon] https://www.amazon.com/Heroes-Telemark-Richard-Harris/dp/B004IFYMXE Look at the titles for other movies and books for other titles offered.  Perhaps the incident Doris talked about is among them.

    04/10/2018 01:15:37
    1. [NOR] Mt. Olive cemetery in Chicago, IL - help to avoid 1-800 number?
    2. Lars E. Oyane
    3. Dear Listers! In the past I have several times talked to the Mt. Olive cemetery in Chicago, IL in order to get some additional information about specific Norwegian emigrants who are buried there. Normally that has never been a problem, however, as I now try, and I have tried the whole day yesterday as well as this morning (your time), but to no avail, nobody answers! Their number, which I can call for free: (773)794-0707 I realize there is also this number: (800)587-3996 however, I am unable to call the 1-800 numbers from Europe, so what do I do? Is some kind soul willing to call them on my behalf, or is there another number I can call from Europe which is not a 1-800 number? Thanks million for any suggestions! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane

    04/10/2018 08:39:01
    1. [NOR] Re: NORWAY Digest, Vol 13, Issue 98
    2. I just recently watched an old movie on TV about the destruction of the heavy water plant in Norway. My grandmother was born in Norway and the family emigrated when she was a baby. My great grandmother passed when I was 9 my 16 year older than me cousin said our great grandmother had talked with her about Norway and how she used to ski. Wish I could have talked with her more. Nadine

    04/10/2018 08:15:58
    1. [NOR] Re: Norwegian Ships in World War II
    2. Alf Christophersen
    3. >I've read current articles on the destruction of the heavy water plant, in recent >archaeology magazines. Apparently when they got into the plant, it was in good >shape, simply deserted, as if the Nazis knew the game was up and they had to just >get out while they could. It was in a well hidden place. I didn't realize books had >been written on the topic. Do you know tittles? It's all interesting stuff. THe info >on the Shetland sounded more to me like it was an effort to get refugees out of >Norway, some for security reasons, some to be trained as part of the resistance >to go back to fight the Nazis whatever way they could, There are probably more >efforts to undercut the Nazis in Norway that any of us know of. Some were >Quislings, but most Norwegians were highly loyal to their country, If stated so, journalist had misunderstood everything completely. The production line was bombed, yes, but quickly repaired. Then the ferry was sinked and project feeding Germany was abandoned. But heavy water production continued for many years, even after I started studying in 1969. When production was abandoned due to other reasons, the production place had no value to owner, and production site was tried destroyed and entrance sealed. The hydrogen factory at Vemork which was the venue of heavy water production ceased some time before 1977, and the unnecessary factory was demolished by using dynamite, the production locality of heavy water included, jun. 21, 1977 and sealed. Everyone believed the room had been completely demolished, but something failed and when reopened, it turns out most was still intact and since the factory is protected by law, and is now planned to be made into a museum https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vemork

    04/10/2018 07:34:11
    1. [NOR] Re: Norwegian Ships in World War II
    2. Halvor Stokke
    3. This page might give som oinfo: http://www.warsailors.com/oddswar/frameoddlinks.html Halvor in Lier -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: Nancy Amols <amolsnancy@gmail.com> Sendt: tirsdag 10. april 2018 13.01 Til: norway@rootsweb.com Emne: [NOR] Re: Norwegian Ships in World War II I know only if The Shetland Bus. Mostly, I know of the seamen like my father ( from Hisoy) who sailed the international convoys in the North Atlantic. In Brooklyn there was Kreig Seilors club. I doubt there is anyone left a but there may be records. There was a gentlemen who helped with the pensions, and he helped my mother get my father's when he died; unfortunately he passed away a long time ago. Nancy Amols PA. On Tue, Apr 10, 2018, 12:09 AM Doris Waggoner <waggonerdoris@gmail.com> wrote: > I've read current articles on the destruction of the heavy water > plant, in recent archaeology magazines. Apparently when they got into > the plant, it was in good shape, simply deserted, as if the Nazis knew > the game was up and they had to just get out while they could. It was > in a well hidden place. I didn't realize books had been written on > the topic. Do you know tittles? It's all interesting stuff. THe info > on the Shetland sounded more to me like it was an effort to get > refugees out of Norway, some for security reasons, some to be trained > as part of the resistance to go back to fight the Nazis whatever way > they could, There are probably more efforts to undercut the Nazis in > Norway that any of us know of. Some were Quislings, but most > Norwegians were highly loyal to their country, > > I've never had the great good fortune to go there, and my current > health will probably preclude it, but I'm very proud of my Norwegian heritage. > I'm half and a smidge. 100% on my mother's side, and I learned that a > merchant from Frederikstat left ca. 1590 for Holland, where he married > a Dutch woman, got richer, and went to New Amsterdam, ultimately ended > up in Schenectady, where he became a big wig and intermarried one of > my mother's lines. Janny Vannema's book, which i recently > bought,outlines many of these relationships. > > Doris > > On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 7:54 PM, John Ferman <johnwferman@gmail.com> wrote: > > > There are at least two book written on the destruction of that > > Norwegian heavy water plant that killed the Nazi atomic bomb effort. > > > > Sent from iPad > > John Ferman > > Minneapolis, MN > > > > My doctor says I have a malformed public-duty gland and as a result > > have > a > > severe morale fibre deficiency, so I should not be expected to save > > the world." > > > > > > >

    04/10/2018 06:45:20
    1. [NOR] Re: Norwegian Ships in World War II
    2. Halvor Stokke
    3. https://www.adlibris.com/no/bok/tungtvannsaksjonen-9788205430372 If you search for "Tungtvannsaksjone" you get a lot of hits Halvor in Lier -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: Doris Waggoner <waggonerdoris@gmail.com> Sendt: tirsdag 10. april 2018 06.09 Til: Norway List <norway@rootsweb.com> Emne: [NOR] Re: Norwegian Ships in World War II I've read current articles on the destruction of the heavy water plant, in recent archaeology magazines. Apparently when they got into the plant, it was in good shape, simply deserted, as if the Nazis knew the game was up and they had to just get out while they could. It was in a well hidden place. I didn't realize books had been written on the topic. Do you know tittles? It's all interesting stuff. THe info on the Shetland sounded more to me like it was an effort to get refugees out of Norway, some for security reasons, some to be trained as part of the resistance to go back to fight the Nazis whatever way they could, There are probably more efforts to undercut the Nazis in Norway that any of us know of. Some were Quislings, but most Norwegians were highly loyal to their country, I've never had the great good fortune to go there, and my current health will probably preclude it, but I'm very proud of my Norwegian heritage. I'm half and a smidge. 100% on my mother's side, and I learned that a merchant from Frederikstat left ca. 1590 for Holland, where he married a Dutch woman, got richer, and went to New Amsterdam, ultimately ended up in Schenectady, where he became a big wig and intermarried one of my mother's lines. Janny Vannema's book, which i recently bought,outlines many of these relationships. Doris On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 7:54 PM, John Ferman <johnwferman@gmail.com> wrote: > There are at least two book written on the destruction of that > Norwegian heavy water plant that killed the Nazi atomic bomb effort. > > Sent from iPad > John Ferman > Minneapolis, MN > > My doctor says I have a malformed public-duty gland and as a result > have a severe morale fibre deficiency, so I should not be expected to > save the world." > >

    04/10/2018 06:42:15
    1. [NOR] Re: Norwegian Ships in World War II
    2. Nancy Amols
    3. I know only if The Shetland Bus. Mostly, I know of the seamen like my father ( from Hisoy) who sailed the international convoys in the North Atlantic. In Brooklyn there was Kreig Seilors club. I doubt there is anyone left a but there may be records. There was a gentlemen who helped with the pensions, and he helped my mother get my father's when he died; unfortunately he passed away a long time ago. Nancy Amols PA. On Tue, Apr 10, 2018, 12:09 AM Doris Waggoner <waggonerdoris@gmail.com> wrote: > I've read current articles on the destruction of the heavy water plant, in > recent archaeology magazines. Apparently when they got into the plant, it > was in good shape, simply deserted, as if the Nazis knew the game was up > and they had to just get out while they could. It was in a well hidden > place. I didn't realize books had been written on the topic. Do you know > tittles? It's all interesting stuff. THe info on the Shetland sounded > more to me like it was an effort to get refugees out of Norway, some for > security reasons, some to be trained as part of the resistance to go back > to fight the Nazis whatever way they could, There are probably more > efforts to undercut the Nazis in Norway that any of us know of. Some were > Quislings, but most Norwegians were highly loyal to their country, > > I've never had the great good fortune to go there, and my current health > will probably preclude it, but I'm very proud of my Norwegian heritage. > I'm half and a smidge. 100% on my mother's side, and I learned that a > merchant from Frederikstat left ca. 1590 for Holland, where he married a > Dutch woman, got richer, and went to New Amsterdam, ultimately ended up in > Schenectady, where he became a big wig and intermarried one of my mother's > lines. Janny Vannema's book, which i recently bought,outlines many of > these relationships. > > Doris > > On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 7:54 PM, John Ferman <johnwferman@gmail.com> wrote: > > > There are at least two book written on the destruction of that Norwegian > > heavy water plant that killed the Nazi atomic bomb effort. > > > > Sent from iPad > > John Ferman > > Minneapolis, MN > > > > My doctor says I have a malformed public-duty gland and as a result have > a > > severe morale fibre deficiency, so I should not be expected to save the > > world." > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/ > > index?list=norway > > > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > > _______________________________________________ > > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: https://lists.rootsweb > . > > ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:norway-leave@rootsweb.com > > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > > > View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb. > > ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/norway@rootsweb.com/ > > > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. > > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > Norwaylist Archiveshttp:// > archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:norway-leave@rootsweb.com > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/norway@rootsweb.com/ > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

    04/10/2018 05:00:59
    1. [NOR] Re: Norwegian Ships in World War II
    2. Doris Waggoner
    3. I've read current articles on the destruction of the heavy water plant, in recent archaeology magazines. Apparently when they got into the plant, it was in good shape, simply deserted, as if the Nazis knew the game was up and they had to just get out while they could. It was in a well hidden place. I didn't realize books had been written on the topic. Do you know tittles? It's all interesting stuff. THe info on the Shetland sounded more to me like it was an effort to get refugees out of Norway, some for security reasons, some to be trained as part of the resistance to go back to fight the Nazis whatever way they could, There are probably more efforts to undercut the Nazis in Norway that any of us know of. Some were Quislings, but most Norwegians were highly loyal to their country, I've never had the great good fortune to go there, and my current health will probably preclude it, but I'm very proud of my Norwegian heritage. I'm half and a smidge. 100% on my mother's side, and I learned that a merchant from Frederikstat left ca. 1590 for Holland, where he married a Dutch woman, got richer, and went to New Amsterdam, ultimately ended up in Schenectady, where he became a big wig and intermarried one of my mother's lines. Janny Vannema's book, which i recently bought,outlines many of these relationships. Doris On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 7:54 PM, John Ferman <johnwferman@gmail.com> wrote: > There are at least two book written on the destruction of that Norwegian > heavy water plant that killed the Nazi atomic bomb effort. > > Sent from iPad > John Ferman > Minneapolis, MN > > My doctor says I have a malformed public-duty gland and as a result have a > severe morale fibre deficiency, so I should not be expected to save the > world." > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/ > index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: https://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:norway-leave@rootsweb.com > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/norway@rootsweb.com/ > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

    04/09/2018 10:08:46
    1. [NOR] Re: Proposal for a Music Project
    2. Bev Anderson
    3. *Richard - http://www.oddcast.com/home/demos/tts/tts_example.php** ** **It would be long and laborious, but the above web site has pronunciations of words in whatever language you select, and different voices saying the word(s).  I use it rather often. Normally I only have it pronounce one word at a time, or pronounce the three extra vowels one at a time so I can try to remember how each sounds for a while.  I did take Norwegian for two years back in the early '80s, promptly forgot most of it because I didn't have anyone with whom to practice speaking the language.  I do remember how to pronounce some words and most of the alphabet, but I assume I do so with an American accent and probably don't stress the correct syllables.  I do know how to pronounce a few words properly, but those are the ones we use in genealogy research and titles such as Oldemor (=gr-grandmother so I can teach my gr-grandson who I am instead of the relationship way of designating who I am).  At least I can trill the R sound which I know some Americans can't (or won't).  This is why it's easier for children to learn foreign languages: they aren't afraid of making new sounds, or at least trying to make new sounds.** ** **Your project sounds interesting.  As an aside since it is not your style of music, the performers in Eurovision usually sing in English rather than their native languages.  Almost all winners have sung in English, and it's understood by all audiences since so many countries teach English as a second language -  I know the Scandinavian countries do so from grade school through high school and college which is why tourists have no problem communicating with people there.  The hosts of the show speak in English and French, and individual countries break in with their own announcers.  Last year's Eurovision winner was from Portugal and he did sing in Portuguese (I confess, I didn't understand a word and didn't like his performance either), so the contest will be in Lisbon this year.  I notice more entries this year are in performers' native languages.** ** **The Eurovision song I'm rooting for this year was composed in English by two Swedes and is performed by Rasmussen from Denmark.  Their first live performance (outside of the night they won in Denmark) will be on the night of the second semi-final - and hopefully in the final as the winner (Norway and Sweden are also performing in the second semi-final, and hopefully the final). * **Rasmussen - Higher Ground - Denmark - Official Video - Eurovision 2018** ****https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeraDSzu0nw ***Sung by Jonas Flodager Rasmussen, written by the Swedish duo Niclas Arn & Karl Eurén.  Rasmussen - Higher Ground (Eurovision Denmark 2018) Dansk Melodi Grand Prix 2018 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rasmussen_(singer) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higher_Ground_(Rasmussen_song) “Higher Ground” is an interpretation of The Viking Age with references to an old Viking legend where some Vikings chose not to fight with weapons but chose peace instead. Arranger of the national contest, Mads Enggaard, described the song to Danish broadcaster, DR: "The message is strong and forever applicable; an invitation to seek peaceful solutions to conflicts and is inspired by the legend of Viking Magnus Erlendsson." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnus_Erlendsson,_Earl_of_Orkney * **Interestingly, I can hear the Scandinavian pronunciation in the English words sung by Abba and English lyrics sung by today's Norwegians, Danes, and Swedes, particularly in how the S sound is made.  Abba won Eurovision in 1974, and the accent is more pronounced with the O sound when they sing 'book' and 'lose.' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FsVeMz1F5c *;-)  The Vikings invaded Lisbon ca 844 ACE.... ;-D Why not a peaceful and musical invasion in 2018? ;-) Alexander Rybak of Norway has an entry this year, but it's not as good as his 2009 entry which got the highest score in Eurovision history, and that score was not topped (under the old scoring system).  Eurovision now has a new scoring system, but both he and the dance group Frikar did a wonderful job.  Look them both up on Wikipedia for more info and bios. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiH4BFTELME Whenever you get your music composed and recorded (and on video?), be sure to let the list know so we can listen/watch. Beste, Bev * On 4/8/2018 8:04 PM, Richard St. Clair via NORWAY wrote: > I'm rather thinking of poems of Olav Hauge. I like the economy of means and directness of his language. > > I just don't know how to pronounce Norwegian, for I wish to set his Norwegian to music. > > Anyone have any clue on how Norwegian is pronounced? I know there are various dialects. I don't know which dialect Olav Hauge spoke. > > Richard >

    04/09/2018 09:30:05
    1. [NOR] Re: Norwegian Ships in World War II
    2. John Ferman
    3. There are at least two book written on the destruction of that Norwegian heavy water plant that killed the Nazi atomic bomb effort. Sent from iPad John Ferman Minneapolis, MN My doctor says I have a malformed public-duty gland and as a result have a severe morale fibre deficiency, so I should not be expected to save the world." >

    04/09/2018 08:54:35
    1. [NOR] Re: Norwegian Ships in World War II
    2. Doris Waggoner
    3. Norman, That sounds very heroic, indeed. But the title doesn't sound familiar, and I remember the book I read being about a single incident that began in the UK. My memory isn't what it used to be, so the book I read may have been about one piece of what this website is about. Thanks for finding it for us. Doris On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 7:04 PM, Norman <norman.johnsen@comcast.net> wrote: > The Shetland Bus may be the book you read. Real events, non fiction. > > > http://shetlandbus.com/ > > > Norman Johnsen > > Tucson > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Doris Waggoner" <waggonerdoris@gmail.com> > To: "Norway List" <norway@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 4/9/2018 5:05:21 PM > Subject: [NOR] Re: Norwegian Ships in World War II > > I know that there were at least a very few instances of Allied spies going >> in the other direction during WW II. I read a book--non-fiction--about >> one >> such instance where a crew went from the UK in what as I recall was a >> >> >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list= > norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:norway-leave@rootsweb.com > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestr > y.com/hyperkitty/list/norway@rootsweb.com/ > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

    04/09/2018 08:45:39
    1. [NOR] Re: Norwegian Ships in World War II
    2. Norman
    3. The Shetland Bus may be the book you read. Real events, non fiction. http://shetlandbus.com/ Norman Johnsen Tucson ------ Original Message ------ From: "Doris Waggoner" <waggonerdoris@gmail.com> To: "Norway List" <norway@rootsweb.com> Sent: 4/9/2018 5:05:21 PM Subject: [NOR] Re: Norwegian Ships in World War II >I know that there were at least a very few instances of Allied spies >going >in the other direction during WW II. I read a book--non-fiction--about >one >such instance where a crew went from the UK in what as I recall was a > >> >>

    04/09/2018 08:04:43
    1. [NOR] Re: Norwegian Ships in World War II
    2. Doris Waggoner
    3. I know that there were at least a very few instances of Allied spies going in the other direction during WW II. I read a book--non-fiction--about one such instance where a crew went from the UK in what as I recall was a purported fishing boat up the west coast of Norway into one of the fjords, to meet up with Resistance people waiting for them. They ran into a lot of trouble, some with the boat, some with the Nazis. It took them a long time to escape, but with the help of the Sami, they got out safely, minus some frostbite, with the information they were seeking. I don't recall how they got out of Norway, probably through Sweden. This is all very vague, I know, and may not help you at all. I do recall that the book had a number of maps showing the route of the man who was the major spy involved--who was Norwegian. He's considered a Norwegian hero, of course. If I could remember his name, Wikipedia would have an article. I do keep lists of the books I read, but went back to 2015 and couldn't find the book. Doris On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 10:54 AM, John Ferman <johnwferman@gmail.com> wrote: > I have seen single remarks about Norwegian skippers spiriting their ships > past the Nazi to join the Allied maritime. West coast skippers would have > had it easier to escape, but east coast home port ships would have had it > more difficult. My ancestors were mariners based in Kragerø and it is said > one captain did. This is a long-winded way of asking if there are any books > written on Norwegian ship escapes from the Nazi. > > Sent from iPad > John Ferman > Minneapolis, MN > > My doctor says I have a malformed public-duty gland and as a result have a > severe morale fibre deficiency, so I should not be expected to save the > world." > > _______________________________________________ > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/ > index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: https://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:norway-leave@rootsweb.com > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/norway@rootsweb.com/ > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

    04/09/2018 06:05:21
    1. [NOR] Re: Proposal for a Music Project
    2. Anne Hildrum
    3. He was from Ulvik in Hardanger in Hordaland. I saw the title of some of work, and I would guess he either used his local Hardanger dialect or used New Norwegian (Nynorsk). Beeing Norwegian I of course know how to pronounce Norwegian. Anne -----Original Message----- From: Richard St. Clair via NORWAY <norway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 3:04 AM To: norway@rootsweb.com Cc: Richard St. Clair <sshin02143@aol.com> Subject: [NOR] Re: Proposal for a Music Project I'm rather thinking of poems of Olav Hauge. I like the economy of means and directness of his language. I just don't know how to pronounce Norwegian, for I wish to set his Norwegian to music. Anyone have any clue on how Norwegian is pronounced? I know there are various dialects. I don't know which dialect Olav Hauge spoke. Richard -----Original Message----- From: Keith Wheeler <wheeler.ok@gmail.com> To: norway <norway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Apr 8, 2018 8:25 pm Subject: [NOR] Re: Proposal for a Music Project Could the work of the late Erik Bye be of any use? While he was a fairly recent Norwegian media personality he was also known as a poet. It is said that, "The poem 'Vårherres klinkekule' (Our Lords Marble) is one of the most beloved in the history of Norwegian poetry." His musical performance of this poem can be found online with English subtitles. https://youtu.be/yEikFGKAFUo and in Norwegian: https://genius.com/Erik-bye-varherres-klinkekule-lyrics His book (in English) "Blow, Silver Wind" holds an honored spot on my bookshelf. Also see: https://thornews.com/2014/10/13/erik-bye-the-giant-we-will-never-forget/ http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0125754/bio https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_Bye Keith from California www.WheelerFolk.org On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 7:53 AM, Richard St. Clair via NORWAY < norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Dear listers, > > Would anyone here like to help me make some songs to Norwegian lyrics? > > I am an established composer of modern classical music, but I have > never set Norwegian lyrics to music before. > > What I suggest is someone to provide me with a recording of actual > spoken Norwegian poems, so I will know how they sound in speech. I > then plan to set the poems to music as songs for singer with piano > accompaniment, providing the listener with English translations. > > I have a couple of anthologies of Norwegian poems in parallel English > translation that I'd like to use. > > Does this sound like something interesting? > > Best regards, > Richard St. Clair > > My website: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_St._Clair > > > > _______________________________________________ > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/ > index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > Mailing Lists. 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    04/08/2018 07:40:14