Dear Sarah, Sherrie and other listers! Thank you very much for your quick replies to my inquiry about the Sturgells! I am amazed and quite happy with your findings! Two small questions though: * While the headstone in the Sunset Memorial Park cemetery shows Ethel died in 1959, and her obituary seems to have appeared in the Alamogordo Daily News from Aug. 4, 1959, the text over shows she died July 22, 1958. I suspect 1958 to be a «typo», but wanted to make sure…? * The only detail now missing about this couple is the exact date of birth for Ethel in Madison, WI in July of 1871. Her obituary didn’t give a date, did it? Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter and for making the NORWAY list to one of the greatest lists ever! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > On Apr 24, 2018, at 5:26 PM, Sarah Thorson Little via NORWAY <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Lars --- death dates and parents for Ethel and James Sturgill: > > Ethel Ada (Larson) Sturgill > > Born July 1871 in Madison, Dane,Wisconsin > > Died July 22, 1958 in Alamogordo,Otero, New Mexico > > Parents: Lewis and Elizabeth (Bartlett) Larson > > 1880 Census: Otranto, Mitchell, Iowa; Roll: 356; Page: 524B; Enumeration District:310 {Atheline Larson] > > 1900 Census: Mehurin, Lac QuiParle, Minnesota; Page: 2; Enumeration District: 131 > > AlamogordoDaily News-- Alamogordo, New Mexico – August 4, 1959 > > James C. Sturgell > > Born August 31, 1872 inCatlettsburg, Boyd, Kentucky > > Died June 18, 1957 in Las Cruces, Doña Ana, New Mexico > > Parents: James and Maleina (Hatton)Sturgill > > Fairbanks Daily News-Miner-- Fairbanks, Alaska – July 18, 1957 > ~~~~~~~~~~ > > On Tuesday, April 24, 2018, 11:59:36 AM PDT, Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no> wrote: > > Dear Listers! > > I have for some time been «hunting» information about this couple: > > James Cavanaugh Sturgell, born in Boyd Co., KY Aug. 31, 1873 > > Ethel Ada Sturgell, nee Larson or Lawson, born in Dane Co., WI July of 1871 > > James went to Alaska as a carpenter and a bridge builder in 1897, and Ethel apparently arrived there shortly after 1900. They were married at Fairbanks, AK Oct. 20, 1917. Census records from Fairbanks, AK show that Ethel systematically pretended being 12/15 years younger than she really was, for whatever reason…, but we know for sure she is the one we want to find! > > Some time in the 1940’s the couple retired to Albuquerque, NM where I understand they both died, James in 1957, and Ethel in 1959. > > They had an adopted daughter who had them buried in the Sunset Memorial Park cemetery in Minneapolis, MN, but their headstones have no exact dates! > > I am particularly interested in finding further details regarding their deaths! Maybe obituaries can be researched in Albuquerque, NM, or even in Fairbanks, AK? > > Thanks a million in advance for your great assistance in this matter! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > >

I believe Dennis is another grandson. Harold <http://www.intelius.com/redir.php?adword=PS.SING.RESULTS.NAME&refer=3123&qf=Dennis&qmi=A&qn=Koselke&qc=Camano+Island&qs=WA&search2=0C2EK66B3EC> Dennis A Koselke 332 N Sunset DR Camano Island, WA 98282 (509) 933-1680 ________________________________ From: Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 1:30 PM To: norway@rootsweb.com Cc: Sarah Thorson Little; Sherrie Stahl; Harold Christensen; Leslie Quist Subject: Re: [NOR] Re: Help to find family in the Seatle, WA area? Dear Leslie, Harold, Sherrie, Sarah and other Listers! Thank you all so very much for your great messages in regard to my Jorgenson family! Now with the full obituaries of Margaret Whitsett and Helen Koselke, there seems to be four surviving grandchildren of John and Anna Jorgenson’s: * Robert Crossen of Sedro Wolley, WA (with the same phone number that I have tried for days listed on Ronald Crossen) * Sharon Justus of Hermiston, OR (whose number works, and I have left her a message!) * Marilyn Howard of Eugene, OR (whose number on whitepages is out ofd service) * Larry Koselke of Cle Elum, WA (whose number is only available on Whitepages premium…) I appreciate very much, Leslie, your willingness to do additional research in Yakima Co., WA for this family. John Jorgenson, the sheep shearer, «of Lewiston, ID» was married at Moxee, Yakima Co., WA Apr. 2, 1913 to Anna M. Schmitz, supposedly born in Yakima Co., WA Jan. 19, 1895, the daughter of Frank and Mary Schmitz. The Schmitz family lived in Yakima Co., WA at least until the 1910’s, but Frank and Mary appear to have divorced some time prior to 1920, and Mary moved to Seattle, WA! Maybe you can find church records in the Yakima, WA area including the Schmitz family helping us to Anna’s middle name? I believe they were German Catholic! Thanks again for your great assistance trying to help me with tracing this family. Hopefully I will sooner or later get hold of Sharon Justus or one of the other Jorgenson descendants… Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~ On Apr 24, 2018, at 12:04 PM, Sarah Thorson Little via NORWAY <norway@rootsweb.com<mailto:norway@rootsweb.com>> wrote: Lars, it looks like she has two surviving children from her complete obituary from the East Oregonian in Pendleton, Oregon on December 11, 2003 WHITSETT -- Margaret Whitsett , 78, of Hermiston, a retired accountant,died Monday, Dec. 8, 2003, at Good Samaritan Center in Hermiston. A memorialservice will be held later with private inurnment. Mrs. Whitsett was born Aug.17, 1925, at Seattle, to John and Anna Jorgenson. She grew up and attendedschools in Seattle, then graduated from business school with a degree in accounting.In September 1960, she married Floyd A. Whitsett at Seattle. She was employedas an accountant for G.O. Guy Drugs for several years. In 1973, the Whitsettsmoved to Valdez, Alaska, and later to Anchorage, Alaska. After her retirement,the couple moved to Baker City in 1985 and to Reno, Nev., in 1992. They movedto Alger, Wash., in 1994 and to Hermiston four years ago. Mrs. Whitsett was aformer member of the Eagles and Moose lodges. She enjoyed playing cribbage,traveling, animals, loved being a grandmother and was a champion bowler. Survivorsinclude her husband, at the home; son, Robert Crossen of Alger, Wash.;daughter, Sharon Justus, of Hermiston; 11 grandchildren; and several greatgrandchildren. She was preceded in death by her parents, by a daughter, DiannaCrossen and by sons, Ron Crossen and Gary Crossen. *** Sharon Justus, 80613 Allen Lane, Hermiston, OR 541-567-3986 ~~~~~ On Apr 24, 2018, at 12:01 PM, Sherrie Stahl <sherriestahl@gmail.com<mailto:sherriestahl@gmail.com>> wrote: Helen Agnes KOSELKE Helen Agnes (Doucett) Koselke, 91, passed away at NW Hospital in Seattle on February 4th. Helen was born September 11, 1919 in Everett, WA, daughter to William James Doucett & Elizabeth Alyque (Reid) Doucett. Helen later moved to Ballard with her family and attended Ballard High School. She married Neil Anthony Koselke in 1949 and lived in Seattle until her passing. Helen is survived by 5 children; Marilyn Howard of Eugene, OR, Larry Koselke of Cle Elum, WA, Dennis Koselke of Camano Island, WA, Eugene Koselke of Camano Island, WA & Loreto B.C.S. Mexico, and Debra Egeck of Woodinville, WA. Helen is also survived by 11 grandchildren, 12 great grandchildren, 6 great-great grandchildren, her brother James Ronald Doucett of Monroe, WA and numerous nieces, nephews and close friends. Helen was predeceased in death by her first husband, Alfred James Jorgenson in 1948, and her husband of 45 years Neil Anthony Koselke in 1994, her son James Jorgenson in 2007 and her brother John Walter Doucett in 2007. A graveside service will be held Wednesday February 9th, 11:00 a.m. at Calvary Cemetery 5041 - 35th Ave NE, Seattle, WA. Helen requested that in lieu of flowers remembrances can be made to St. Catherine of Sienna School or Children's Hospital, both in Seattle. Sherrie stahl sherriestahl@gmail.com<mailto:sherriestahl@gmail.com> ~~~~~ On Tuesday, April 24, 2018, 9:47:18 AM PDT, Harold Christensen <haroldmable@hotmail.com<mailto:haroldmable@hotmail.com>> wrote: Lars, The 1940 census for Seattle shows Alfred Jorgenson, age 25, wife Helen, age 20, son Alfred S, age 1, and sister, Margaret, age 14. Alfred is a cement finisher working on a government project. All of these were born in Washington. Harold ~~~~~ On Apr 24, 2018, at 9:26 AM, Leslie Quist <mamakitty@charter.net<mailto:mamakitty@charter.net>> wrote: Lars, you don't say who John married in Yakima County. It is quite a large county too and covers more ground than some states. I live in Yakima, but I need a name! There are places to look and I know some of them. He may have worked for the Sheep Company that ran sheep around here about that time. I remember hearing about them when I was a child and my father knew one of the herders. Send me information and I'll spend some time looking for a marriage in 1913. The library in downtown Yakima has the archives of the Yakima Herald and Yakima Republic and also the Polks directory. The Yakima Valley Genealogy Society also has a file of the obituarys that were published in the newspaper. All neatly and alphabetically filed. But I need names! Leslie Quist ~~~~~ From: Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no<mailto:lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no>> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 5:46 AM To: norway@rootsweb.com<mailto:norway@rootsweb.com> Subject: [NOR] Help to find family in the Seatle, WA area? Dear Listers! I am frustrated! It appears to be soo hard to locate nowliving descendants of certain families in the Seattle, WA area, but maybe someone can help me? John Jorgensen (1878-1966) was a sheep shearer and lived for many years in Seattle, WA. He was married and had two children: * Alfred Jorgensen (1914-1948) who married Helen Doucett - she remarried Neil Koselke and died in Seattle, WA Feb. 4, 2011. Her obituary appeared isn the Seattle Times on Feb. 8, 2011. I cannot get up the actual obituary, but an «abstract» of this obituary on FamilySearch gives the following names of spouses and children: Neil Anthony Koselke, husband Marilyn Howard, daughter Larry Koselke, son Dennis Koselke, son Eugene Koselke, son Debra Egeck, daughter Alfred James Jorgenson, husband James Jorgenson, son * Margaret Jorgenson (1925-2003) married three times, 1st to Robert Lennstrom, 2nd to Crossen and 3rd to Floyd Whitsett. No obituary can be found for Margaret, but Floyd Whitsett died at Richland, OR Mar. 31, 2006, and an extract of his obituary from the East Oregonian dated Apr. 11, 2006 lists the following spouse and children: Margaret Anna Crossen, wife Dianna Crossen, daughter Gary Crossen, son Sharon Justus, daughter Ron Crossen, son Robert Crossen, son Margaret Whitsett appears to have died at Sedro Woolley, WA, and there is a Ronald Crossen in the Sedro Woolley telephone directory, but despite dozens of calls, I get no answer… Could it be that the original obituaries include more precise information about these families, or maybe someone has other suggestions how I can get in contact with family members? PS: My REAL Challenge with this family is the following: John Jorgenson (Joranger) from Hafslo (Aug. 5, 1827- ) and Caroline Jensdotter from Maalselv (Apr. 11, 1852) farmed at least until 1888 the E½ NW¼ of Section 18 in Wheaton township, Chippewa Co., WI - near the Elk Mound, WI settlement and had at least five children: * Betsy Marie Jorgenson - born 1876/1877 * John Peder Jorgenson - born Oct. 20, 1878 - ended up as a sheep shearer in Seattle, WA * Carl Jorgenson - born June 25, 1880 - was also a sheep shearer in Seattle, WA, but never married * Nels H. Jorgenson, born Dec. 27, 1882 * Christine Jorgenson, born Sep. 4, 1884 When John married in Yakima Co., WA in 1913, he was a resident of Lewiston, ID, and he may also have lived in Carbon Co., WY prior to that, but NOWHERE can I find any members of this family in the 1900 or 1910 censuses!! My hope is that children of Alfred’s or Margaret’s MAY have heard about aunt Betsy, uncle Nels or aunt Christine… Or maybe someone has other suggestions how this family can be traced?? Thanks a million for your great assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane, a frustrated Norwegian!

Lars --- death dates and parents for Ethel and James Sturgill: Ethel Ada (Larson) Sturgill Born July 1871 in Madison, Dane,Wisconsin Died July 22, 1958 in Alamogordo,Otero, New Mexico Parents:  Lewis and Elizabeth (Bartlett) Larson 1880  Census: Otranto, Mitchell, Iowa; Roll: 356; Page: 524B; Enumeration District:310 {Atheline Larson] 1900 Census: Mehurin, Lac QuiParle, Minnesota; Page: 2; Enumeration District: 131 AlamogordoDaily News-- Alamogordo, New Mexico – August 4, 1959 James C. Sturgell  Born August 31, 1872 inCatlettsburg, Boyd, Kentucky Died June 18, 1957 in Las Cruces,  Doña Ana, New Mexico Parents: James and Maleina (Hatton)Sturgill Fairbanks Daily News-Miner-- Fairbanks, Alaska – July 18, 1957   On Tuesday, April 24, 2018, 11:59:36 AM PDT, Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no> wrote: Dear Listers! I have for some time been «hunting» information about this couple: James Cavanaugh Sturgell, born in Boyd Co., KY Aug. 31, 1873 Ethel Ada Sturgell, nee Larson or Lawson, born in Dane Co., WI July of 1871 James went to Alaska as a carpenter and a bridge builder in 1897, and Ethel apparently arrived there shortly after 1900.  They were married at Fairbanks, AK Oct. 20, 1917.  Census records from Fairbanks, AK show that Ethel systematically pretended being 12/15 years younger than she really was, for whatever reason…, but we know for sure she is the one we want to find! Some time in the 1940’s the couple retired to Albuquerque, NM where I understand they both died, James in 1957, and Ethel in 1959. They had an adopted daughter who had them buried in the Sunset Memorial Park cemetery in Minneapolis, MN, but their headstones have no exact dates! I am particularly interested in finding further details regarding their deaths!  Maybe obituaries can be researched in Albuquerque, NM, or even in Fairbanks, AK? Thanks a million in advance for your great assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane _______________________________________________ Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm _______________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb Mailing Lists.  Manage your email preferences at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:norway-leave@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/norway@rootsweb.com/ Your privacy is important to us.  View our Privacy Statement at https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information.  Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Lars, Here is Larry's phone number: Larry D Koselke<http://www.intelius.com/redir.php?adword=PS.SING.RESULTS.NAME&refer=3123&qf=Larry&qmi=D&qn=Koselke&qc=Cle+Elum&qs=WA&search2=065CXG9WNVP> 520 Canyon Heights DR Cle Elum, WA 98922 (509) 674-7059 Found it on Zabasearch.com Harold ________________________________ From: Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 1:30 PM To: norway@rootsweb.com Cc: Sarah Thorson Little; Sherrie Stahl; Harold Christensen; Leslie Quist Subject: Re: [NOR] Re: Help to find family in the Seatle, WA area? Dear Leslie, Harold, Sherrie, Sarah and other Listers! Thank you all so very much for your great messages in regard to my Jorgenson family! Now with the full obituaries of Margaret Whitsett and Helen Koselke, there seems to be four surviving grandchildren of John and Anna Jorgenson’s: * Robert Crossen of Sedro Wolley, WA (with the same phone number that I have tried for days listed on Ronald Crossen) * Sharon Justus of Hermiston, OR (whose number works, and I have left her a message!) * Marilyn Howard of Eugene, OR (whose number on whitepages is out ofd service) * Larry Koselke of Cle Elum, WA (whose number is only available on Whitepages premium…) I appreciate very much, Leslie, your willingness to do additional research in Yakima Co., WA for this family. John Jorgenson, the sheep shearer, «of Lewiston, ID» was married at Moxee, Yakima Co., WA Apr. 2, 1913 to Anna M. Schmitz, supposedly born in Yakima Co., WA Jan. 19, 1895, the daughter of Frank and Mary Schmitz. The Schmitz family lived in Yakima Co., WA at least until the 1910’s, but Frank and Mary appear to have divorced some time prior to 1920, and Mary moved to Seattle, WA! Maybe you can find church records in the Yakima, WA area including the Schmitz family helping us to Anna’s middle name? I believe they were German Catholic! Thanks again for your great assistance trying to help me with tracing this family. Hopefully I will sooner or later get hold of Sharon Justus or one of the other Jorgenson descendants… Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~ On Apr 24, 2018, at 12:04 PM, Sarah Thorson Little via NORWAY <norway@rootsweb.com<mailto:norway@rootsweb.com>> wrote: Lars, it looks like she has two surviving children from her complete obituary from the East Oregonian in Pendleton, Oregon on December 11, 2003 WHITSETT -- Margaret Whitsett , 78, of Hermiston, a retired accountant,died Monday, Dec. 8, 2003, at Good Samaritan Center in Hermiston. A memorialservice will be held later with private inurnment. Mrs. Whitsett was born Aug.17, 1925, at Seattle, to John and Anna Jorgenson. She grew up and attendedschools in Seattle, then graduated from business school with a degree in accounting.In September 1960, she married Floyd A. Whitsett at Seattle. She was employedas an accountant for G.O. Guy Drugs for several years. In 1973, the Whitsettsmoved to Valdez, Alaska, and later to Anchorage, Alaska. After her retirement,the couple moved to Baker City in 1985 and to Reno, Nev., in 1992. They movedto Alger, Wash., in 1994 and to Hermiston four years ago. Mrs. Whitsett was aformer member of the Eagles and Moose lodges. She enjoyed playing cribbage,traveling, animals, loved being a grandmother and was a champion bowler. Survivorsinclude her husband, at the home; son, Robert Crossen of Alger, Wash.;daughter, Sharon Justus, of Hermiston; 11 grandchildren; and several greatgrandchildren. She was preceded in death by her parents, by a daughter, DiannaCrossen and by sons, Ron Crossen and Gary Crossen. *** Sharon Justus, 80613 Allen Lane, Hermiston, OR 541-567-3986 ~~~~~ On Apr 24, 2018, at 12:01 PM, Sherrie Stahl <sherriestahl@gmail.com<mailto:sherriestahl@gmail.com>> wrote: Helen Agnes KOSELKE Helen Agnes (Doucett) Koselke, 91, passed away at NW Hospital in Seattle on February 4th. Helen was born September 11, 1919 in Everett, WA, daughter to William James Doucett & Elizabeth Alyque (Reid) Doucett. Helen later moved to Ballard with her family and attended Ballard High School. She married Neil Anthony Koselke in 1949 and lived in Seattle until her passing. Helen is survived by 5 children; Marilyn Howard of Eugene, OR, Larry Koselke of Cle Elum, WA, Dennis Koselke of Camano Island, WA, Eugene Koselke of Camano Island, WA & Loreto B.C.S. Mexico, and Debra Egeck of Woodinville, WA. Helen is also survived by 11 grandchildren, 12 great grandchildren, 6 great-great grandchildren, her brother James Ronald Doucett of Monroe, WA and numerous nieces, nephews and close friends. Helen was predeceased in death by her first husband, Alfred James Jorgenson in 1948, and her husband of 45 years Neil Anthony Koselke in 1994, her son James Jorgenson in 2007 and her brother John Walter Doucett in 2007. A graveside service will be held Wednesday February 9th, 11:00 a.m. at Calvary Cemetery 5041 - 35th Ave NE, Seattle, WA. Helen requested that in lieu of flowers remembrances can be made to St. Catherine of Sienna School or Children's Hospital, both in Seattle. Sherrie stahl sherriestahl@gmail.com<mailto:sherriestahl@gmail.com> ~~~~~ On Tuesday, April 24, 2018, 9:47:18 AM PDT, Harold Christensen <haroldmable@hotmail.com<mailto:haroldmable@hotmail.com>> wrote: Lars, The 1940 census for Seattle shows Alfred Jorgenson, age 25, wife Helen, age 20, son Alfred S, age 1, and sister, Margaret, age 14. Alfred is a cement finisher working on a government project. All of these were born in Washington. Harold ~~~~~ On Apr 24, 2018, at 9:26 AM, Leslie Quist <mamakitty@charter.net<mailto:mamakitty@charter.net>> wrote: Lars, you don't say who John married in Yakima County. It is quite a large county too and covers more ground than some states. I live in Yakima, but I need a name! There are places to look and I know some of them. He may have worked for the Sheep Company that ran sheep around here about that time. I remember hearing about them when I was a child and my father knew one of the herders. Send me information and I'll spend some time looking for a marriage in 1913. The library in downtown Yakima has the archives of the Yakima Herald and Yakima Republic and also the Polks directory. The Yakima Valley Genealogy Society also has a file of the obituarys that were published in the newspaper. All neatly and alphabetically filed. But I need names! Leslie Quist ~~~~~ From: Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no<mailto:lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no>> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 5:46 AM To: norway@rootsweb.com<mailto:norway@rootsweb.com> Subject: [NOR] Help to find family in the Seatle, WA area? Dear Listers! I am frustrated! It appears to be soo hard to locate nowliving descendants of certain families in the Seattle, WA area, but maybe someone can help me? John Jorgensen (1878-1966) was a sheep shearer and lived for many years in Seattle, WA. He was married and had two children: * Alfred Jorgensen (1914-1948) who married Helen Doucett - she remarried Neil Koselke and died in Seattle, WA Feb. 4, 2011. Her obituary appeared isn the Seattle Times on Feb. 8, 2011. I cannot get up the actual obituary, but an «abstract» of this obituary on FamilySearch gives the following names of spouses and children: Neil Anthony Koselke, husband Marilyn Howard, daughter Larry Koselke, son Dennis Koselke, son Eugene Koselke, son Debra Egeck, daughter Alfred James Jorgenson, husband James Jorgenson, son * Margaret Jorgenson (1925-2003) married three times, 1st to Robert Lennstrom, 2nd to Crossen and 3rd to Floyd Whitsett. No obituary can be found for Margaret, but Floyd Whitsett died at Richland, OR Mar. 31, 2006, and an extract of his obituary from the East Oregonian dated Apr. 11, 2006 lists the following spouse and children: Margaret Anna Crossen, wife Dianna Crossen, daughter Gary Crossen, son Sharon Justus, daughter Ron Crossen, son Robert Crossen, son Margaret Whitsett appears to have died at Sedro Woolley, WA, and there is a Ronald Crossen in the Sedro Woolley telephone directory, but despite dozens of calls, I get no answer… Could it be that the original obituaries include more precise information about these families, or maybe someone has other suggestions how I can get in contact with family members? PS: My REAL Challenge with this family is the following: John Jorgenson (Joranger) from Hafslo (Aug. 5, 1827- ) and Caroline Jensdotter from Maalselv (Apr. 11, 1852) farmed at least until 1888 the E½ NW¼ of Section 18 in Wheaton township, Chippewa Co., WI - near the Elk Mound, WI settlement and had at least five children: * Betsy Marie Jorgenson - born 1876/1877 * John Peder Jorgenson - born Oct. 20, 1878 - ended up as a sheep shearer in Seattle, WA * Carl Jorgenson - born June 25, 1880 - was also a sheep shearer in Seattle, WA, but never married * Nels H. Jorgenson, born Dec. 27, 1882 * Christine Jorgenson, born Sep. 4, 1884 When John married in Yakima Co., WA in 1913, he was a resident of Lewiston, ID, and he may also have lived in Carbon Co., WY prior to that, but NOWHERE can I find any members of this family in the 1900 or 1910 censuses!! My hope is that children of Alfred’s or Margaret’s MAY have heard about aunt Betsy, uncle Nels or aunt Christine… Or maybe someone has other suggestions how this family can be traced?? Thanks a million for your great assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane, a frustrated Norwegian!

Dear Listers! I have for some time been «hunting» information about this couple: James Cavanaugh Sturgell, born in Boyd Co., KY Aug. 31, 1873 Ethel Ada Sturgell, nee Larson or Lawson, born in Dane Co., WI July of 1871 James went to Alaska as a carpenter and a bridge builder in 1897, and Ethel apparently arrived there shortly after 1900. They were married at Fairbanks, AK Oct. 20, 1917. Census records from Fairbanks, AK show that Ethel systematically pretended being 12/15 years younger than she really was, for whatever reason…, but we know for sure she is the one we want to find! Some time in the 1940’s the couple retired to Albuquerque, NM where I understand they both died, James in 1957, and Ethel in 1959. They had an adopted daughter who had them buried in the Sunset Memorial Park cemetery in Minneapolis, MN, but their headstones have no exact dates! I am particularly interested in finding further details regarding their deaths! Maybe obituaries can be researched in Albuquerque, NM, or even in Fairbanks, AK? Thanks a million in advance for your great assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane

Dear Leslie, Harold, Sherrie, Sarah and other Listers! Thank you all so very much for your great messages in regard to my Jorgenson family! Now with the full obituaries of Margaret Whitsett and Helen Koselke, there seems to be four surviving grandchildren of John and Anna Jorgenson’s: * Robert Crossen of Sedro Wolley, WA (with the same phone number that I have tried for days listed on Ronald Crossen) * Sharon Justus of Hermiston, OR (whose number works, and I have left her a message!) * Marilyn Howard of Eugene, OR (whose number on whitepages is out ofd service) * Larry Koselke of Cle Elum, WA (whose number is only available on Whitepages premium…) I appreciate very much, Leslie, your willingness to do additional research in Yakima Co., WA for this family. John Jorgenson, the sheep shearer, «of Lewiston, ID» was married at Moxee, Yakima Co., WA Apr. 2, 1913 to Anna M. Schmitz, supposedly born in Yakima Co., WA Jan. 19, 1895, the daughter of Frank and Mary Schmitz. The Schmitz family lived in Yakima Co., WA at least until the 1910’s, but Frank and Mary appear to have divorced some time prior to 1920, and Mary moved to Seattle, WA! Maybe you can find church records in the Yakima, WA area including the Schmitz family helping us to Anna’s middle name? I believe they were German Catholic! Thanks again for your great assistance trying to help me with tracing this family. Hopefully I will sooner or later get hold of Sharon Justus or one of the other Jorgenson descendants… Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~ > On Apr 24, 2018, at 12:04 PM, Sarah Thorson Little via NORWAY <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Lars, it looks like she has two surviving children from her complete obituary from the East Oregonian in Pendleton, Oregon on December 11, 2003 > > WHITSETT -- Margaret Whitsett , 78, of Hermiston, a retired accountant,died Monday, Dec. 8, 2003, at Good Samaritan Center in Hermiston. A memorialservice will be held later with private inurnment. Mrs. Whitsett was born Aug.17, 1925, at Seattle, to John and Anna Jorgenson. She grew up and attendedschools in Seattle, then graduated from business school with a degree in accounting.In September 1960, she married Floyd A. Whitsett at Seattle. She was employedas an accountant for G.O. Guy Drugs for several years. In 1973, the Whitsettsmoved to Valdez, Alaska, and later to Anchorage, Alaska. After her retirement,the couple moved to Baker City in 1985 and to Reno, Nev., in 1992. They movedto Alger, Wash., in 1994 and to Hermiston four years ago. Mrs. Whitsett was aformer member of the Eagles and Moose lodges. She enjoyed playing cribbage,traveling, animals, loved being a grandmother and was a champion bowler. Survivorsinclude her husband, at the home; son, Robert Crossen of Alger, Wash.;daughter, Sharon Justus, of Hermiston; 11 grandchildren; and several greatgrandchildren. She was preceded in death by her parents, by a daughter, DiannaCrossen and by sons, Ron Crossen and Gary Crossen. > > *** > > Sharon Justus, 80613 Allen Lane, Hermiston, OR 541-567-3986 > ~~~~~ > On Apr 24, 2018, at 12:01 PM, Sherrie Stahl <sherriestahl@gmail.com> wrote: > > Helen Agnes KOSELKE Helen Agnes (Doucett) Koselke, 91, passed away at NW Hospital in Seattle on February 4th. Helen was born September 11, 1919 in Everett, WA, daughter to William James Doucett & Elizabeth Alyque (Reid) Doucett. Helen later moved to Ballard with her family and attended Ballard High School. She married Neil Anthony Koselke in 1949 and lived in Seattle until her passing. Helen is survived by 5 children; Marilyn Howard of Eugene, OR, Larry Koselke of Cle Elum, WA, Dennis Koselke of Camano Island, WA, Eugene Koselke of Camano Island, WA & Loreto B.C.S. Mexico, and Debra Egeck of Woodinville, WA. Helen is also survived by 11 grandchildren, 12 great grandchildren, 6 great-great grandchildren, her brother James Ronald Doucett of Monroe, WA and numerous nieces, nephews and close friends. Helen was predeceased in death by her first husband, Alfred James Jorgenson in 1948, and her husband of 45 years Neil Anthony Koselke in 1994, her son James Jorgenson in 2007 and her brother John Walter Doucett in 2007. A graveside service will be held Wednesday February 9th, 11:00 a.m. at Calvary Cemetery 5041 - 35th Ave NE, Seattle, WA. Helen requested that in lieu of flowers remembrances can be made to St. Catherine of Sienna School or Children's Hospital, both in Seattle. > > Sherrie stahl > sherriestahl@gmail.com <mailto:sherriestahl@gmail.com> ~~~~~ > On Tuesday, April 24, 2018, 9:47:18 AM PDT, Harold Christensen <haroldmable@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Lars, > > The 1940 census for Seattle shows Alfred Jorgenson, age 25, wife Helen, age 20, son Alfred S, age 1, and sister, Margaret, age 14. Alfred is a cement finisher working on a government project. All of these were born in Washington. > > Harold ~~~~~ > On Apr 24, 2018, at 9:26 AM, Leslie Quist <mamakitty@charter.net> wrote: > > Lars, you don't say who John married in Yakima County. It is quite a large county too and covers more ground than some states. I live in Yakima, but I need a name! There are places to look and I know some of them. He may have worked for the Sheep Company that ran sheep around here about that time. I remember hearing about them when I was a child and my father knew one of the herders. Send me information and I'll spend some time looking for a marriage in 1913. The library in downtown Yakima has the archives of the Yakima Herald and Yakima Republic and also the Polks directory. The Yakima Valley Genealogy Society also has a file of the obituarys that were published in the newspaper. All neatly and alphabetically filed. But I need names! > Leslie Quist ~~~~~ > From: Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no> > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 5:46 AM > To: norway@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NOR] Help to find family in the Seatle, WA area? > > Dear Listers! > > I am frustrated! It appears to be soo hard to locate nowliving descendants of certain families in the Seattle, WA area, but maybe someone can help me? > > John Jorgensen (1878-1966) was a sheep shearer and lived for many years in Seattle, WA. He was married and had two children: > > * Alfred Jorgensen (1914-1948) who married Helen Doucett - she remarried Neil Koselke and died in Seattle, WA Feb. 4, 2011. Her obituary appeared isn the Seattle Times on Feb. 8, 2011. I cannot get up the actual obituary, but an «abstract» of this obituary on FamilySearch gives the following names of spouses and children: > > Neil Anthony Koselke, husband > Marilyn Howard, daughter > Larry Koselke, son > Dennis Koselke, son > Eugene Koselke, son > Debra Egeck, daughter > Alfred James Jorgenson, husband > James Jorgenson, son > > * Margaret Jorgenson (1925-2003) married three times, 1st to Robert Lennstrom, 2nd to Crossen and 3rd to Floyd Whitsett. No obituary can be found for Margaret, but Floyd Whitsett died at Richland, OR Mar. 31, 2006, and an extract of his obituary from the East Oregonian dated Apr. 11, 2006 lists the following spouse and children: > > Margaret Anna Crossen, wife > Dianna Crossen, daughter > Gary Crossen, son > Sharon Justus, daughter > Ron Crossen, son > Robert Crossen, son > > Margaret Whitsett appears to have died at Sedro Woolley, WA, and there is a Ronald Crossen in the Sedro Woolley telephone directory, but despite dozens of calls, I get no answer… > > Could it be that the original obituaries include more precise information about these families, or maybe someone has other suggestions how I can get in contact with family members? > > PS: My REAL Challenge with this family is the following: > > John Jorgenson (Joranger) from Hafslo (Aug. 5, 1827- ) and Caroline Jensdotter from Maalselv (Apr. 11, 1852) farmed at least until 1888 the E½ NW¼ of Section 18 in Wheaton township, Chippewa Co., WI - near the Elk Mound, WI settlement and had at least five children: > > * Betsy Marie Jorgenson - born 1876/1877 > * John Peder Jorgenson - born Oct. 20, 1878 - ended up as a sheep shearer in Seattle, WA > * Carl Jorgenson - born June 25, 1880 - was also a sheep shearer in Seattle, WA, but never married > * Nels H. Jorgenson, born Dec. 27, 1882 > * Christine Jorgenson, born Sep. 4, 1884 > > When John married in Yakima Co., WA in 1913, he was a resident of Lewiston, ID, and he may also have lived in Carbon Co., WY prior to that, but NOWHERE can I find any members of this family in the 1900 or 1910 censuses!! > > My hope is that children of Alfred’s or Margaret’s MAY have heard about aunt Betsy, uncle Nels or aunt Christine… Or maybe someone has other suggestions how this family can be traced?? > > Thanks a million for your great assistance in this matter! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane, a frustrated Norwegian! > >

Lars, it looks like she has two surviving children from her complete obituary from the East Oregonian in Pendleton, Oregon on  December 11, 2003 WHITSETT -- Margaret Whitsett , 78, of Hermiston, a retired accountant,died Monday, Dec. 8, 2003, at Good Samaritan Center in Hermiston. A memorialservice will be held later with private inurnment. Mrs. Whitsett was born Aug.17, 1925, at Seattle, to John and Anna Jorgenson. She grew up and attendedschools in Seattle, then graduated from business school with a degree in accounting.In September 1960, she married Floyd A. Whitsett at Seattle. She was employedas an accountant for G.O. Guy Drugs for several years. In 1973, the Whitsettsmoved to Valdez, Alaska, and later to Anchorage, Alaska. After her retirement,the couple moved to Baker City in 1985 and to Reno, Nev., in 1992. They movedto Alger, Wash., in 1994 and to Hermiston four years ago. Mrs. Whitsett was aformer member of the Eagles and Moose lodges. She enjoyed playing cribbage,traveling, animals, loved being a grandmother and was a champion bowler. Survivorsinclude her husband, at the home; son, Robert Crossen of Alger, Wash.;daughter, Sharon Justus, of Hermiston; 11 grandchildren; and several greatgrandchildren. She was preceded in death by her parents, by a daughter, DiannaCrossen and by sons, Ron Crossen and Gary Crossen.  *** Sharon Justus,   80613 Allen Lane, Hermiston, OR   541-567-3986 On Tuesday, April 24, 2018, 9:47:18 AM PDT, Harold Christensen <haroldmable@hotmail.com> wrote: Lars, The 1940 census for Seattle shows Alfred Jorgenson, age 25, wife Helen, age 20, son Alfred S, age 1, and sister, Margaret, age 14.  Alfred is a cement finisher working on a government project.  All of these were born in Washington. Harold ________________________________ From: Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 5:46 AM To: norway@rootsweb.com Subject: [NOR] Help to find family in the Seatle, WA area? Dear Listers! I am frustrated!  It appears to be soo hard to locate nowliving descendants of certain families in the Seattle, WA area, but maybe someone can help me? John Jorgensen (1878-1966) was a sheep shearer and lived for many years in Seattle, WA.  He was married and had two children: * Alfred Jorgensen (1914-1948) who married Helen Doucett - she remarried Neil Koselke and died in Seattle, WA Feb. 4, 2011.  Her obituary appeared isn the Seattle Times on Feb. 8, 2011.  I cannot get up the actual obituary, but an «abstract» of this obituary on FamilySearch gives the following names of spouses and children: Neil Anthony Koselke, husband Marilyn Howard, daughter Larry Koselke, son Dennis Koselke, son Eugene Koselke, son Debra Egeck, daughter Alfred James Jorgenson, husband James Jorgenson, son * Margaret Jorgenson (1925-2003) married three times, 1st to Robert Lennstrom, 2nd to Crossen and 3rd to Floyd Whitsett.  No obituary can be found for Margaret, but Floyd Whitsett died at Richland, OR Mar. 31, 2006, and an extract of his obituary from the East Oregonian dated Apr. 11, 2006 lists the following spouse and children: Margaret Anna Crossen, wife Dianna Crossen, daughter Gary Crossen, son Sharon Justus, daughter Ron Crossen, son Robert Crossen, son Margaret Whitsett appears to have died at Sedro Woolley, WA, and there is a Ronald Crossen in the Sedro Woolley telephone directory, but despite dozens of calls, I get no answer… Could it be that the original obituaries include more precise information about these families, or maybe someone has other suggestions how I can get in contact with family members? PS: My REAL Challenge with this family is the following: John Jorgenson (Joranger) from Hafslo (Aug. 5, 1827-    ) and Caroline Jensdotter from Maalselv (Apr. 11, 1852) farmed at least until 1888 the E½ NW¼ of Section 18 in Wheaton township, Chippewa Co., WI - near the Elk Mound, WI settlement and had at least five children: * Betsy Marie Jorgenson - born 1876/1877 * John Peder Jorgenson - born Oct. 20, 1878 - ended up as a sheep shearer in Seattle, WA * Carl Jorgenson - born June 25, 1880 - was also a sheep shearer in Seattle, WA, but never married * Nels H. Jorgenson, born Dec. 27, 1882 * Christine Jorgenson, born Sep. 4, 1884 When John married in Yakima Co., WA in 1913, he was a resident of Lewiston, ID, and he may also have lived in Carbon Co., WY prior to that, but NOWHERE can I find any members of this family in the 1900 or 1910 censuses!! My hope is that children of Alfred’s or Margaret’s MAY have heard about aunt Betsy, uncle Nels or aunt Christine…  Or maybe someone has other suggestions how this family can be traced?? Thanks a million for your great assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. 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Lars, The 1940 census for Seattle shows Alfred Jorgenson, age 25, wife Helen, age 20, son Alfred S, age 1, and sister, Margaret, age 14. Alfred is a cement finisher working on a government project. All of these were born in Washington. Harold ________________________________ From: Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 5:46 AM To: norway@rootsweb.com Subject: [NOR] Help to find family in the Seatle, WA area? Dear Listers! I am frustrated! It appears to be soo hard to locate nowliving descendants of certain families in the Seattle, WA area, but maybe someone can help me? John Jorgensen (1878-1966) was a sheep shearer and lived for many years in Seattle, WA. He was married and had two children: * Alfred Jorgensen (1914-1948) who married Helen Doucett - she remarried Neil Koselke and died in Seattle, WA Feb. 4, 2011. Her obituary appeared isn the Seattle Times on Feb. 8, 2011. I cannot get up the actual obituary, but an «abstract» of this obituary on FamilySearch gives the following names of spouses and children: Neil Anthony Koselke, husband Marilyn Howard, daughter Larry Koselke, son Dennis Koselke, son Eugene Koselke, son Debra Egeck, daughter Alfred James Jorgenson, husband James Jorgenson, son * Margaret Jorgenson (1925-2003) married three times, 1st to Robert Lennstrom, 2nd to Crossen and 3rd to Floyd Whitsett. No obituary can be found for Margaret, but Floyd Whitsett died at Richland, OR Mar. 31, 2006, and an extract of his obituary from the East Oregonian dated Apr. 11, 2006 lists the following spouse and children: Margaret Anna Crossen, wife Dianna Crossen, daughter Gary Crossen, son Sharon Justus, daughter Ron Crossen, son Robert Crossen, son Margaret Whitsett appears to have died at Sedro Woolley, WA, and there is a Ronald Crossen in the Sedro Woolley telephone directory, but despite dozens of calls, I get no answer… Could it be that the original obituaries include more precise information about these families, or maybe someone has other suggestions how I can get in contact with family members? PS: My REAL Challenge with this family is the following: John Jorgenson (Joranger) from Hafslo (Aug. 5, 1827- ) and Caroline Jensdotter from Maalselv (Apr. 11, 1852) farmed at least until 1888 the E½ NW¼ of Section 18 in Wheaton township, Chippewa Co., WI - near the Elk Mound, WI settlement and had at least five children: * Betsy Marie Jorgenson - born 1876/1877 * John Peder Jorgenson - born Oct. 20, 1878 - ended up as a sheep shearer in Seattle, WA * Carl Jorgenson - born June 25, 1880 - was also a sheep shearer in Seattle, WA, but never married * Nels H. Jorgenson, born Dec. 27, 1882 * Christine Jorgenson, born Sep. 4, 1884 When John married in Yakima Co., WA in 1913, he was a resident of Lewiston, ID, and he may also have lived in Carbon Co., WY prior to that, but NOWHERE can I find any members of this family in the 1900 or 1910 censuses!! My hope is that children of Alfred’s or Margaret’s MAY have heard about aunt Betsy, uncle Nels or aunt Christine… Or maybe someone has other suggestions how this family can be traced?? Thanks a million for your great assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane, a frustrated Norwegian! _______________________________________________ Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm _______________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:norway-leave@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/norway@rootsweb.com/ Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Lars, The 1940 census for Marysville, Washington, shows a John Jorgensen born in Wisconsin, age 62, wife Josephine born in Minnesota, brother Carl, born in Wisconsin, age 58, and sister-in-law, Lena, born in South Dakota. Both John and Carl are working for the Great Northern Rail Road. I don't know if this is your family but it sounds as if it could be. Harold ________________________________ From: Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 5:46 AM To: norway@rootsweb.com Subject: [NOR] Help to find family in the Seatle, WA area? Dear Listers! I am frustrated! It appears to be soo hard to locate nowliving descendants of certain families in the Seattle, WA area, but maybe someone can help me? John Jorgensen (1878-1966) was a sheep shearer and lived for many years in Seattle, WA. He was married and had two children: * Alfred Jorgensen (1914-1948) who married Helen Doucett - she remarried Neil Koselke and died in Seattle, WA Feb. 4, 2011. Her obituary appeared isn the Seattle Times on Feb. 8, 2011. I cannot get up the actual obituary, but an «abstract» of this obituary on FamilySearch gives the following names of spouses and children: Neil Anthony Koselke, husband Marilyn Howard, daughter Larry Koselke, son Dennis Koselke, son Eugene Koselke, son Debra Egeck, daughter Alfred James Jorgenson, husband James Jorgenson, son * Margaret Jorgenson (1925-2003) married three times, 1st to Robert Lennstrom, 2nd to Crossen and 3rd to Floyd Whitsett. No obituary can be found for Margaret, but Floyd Whitsett died at Richland, OR Mar. 31, 2006, and an extract of his obituary from the East Oregonian dated Apr. 11, 2006 lists the following spouse and children: Margaret Anna Crossen, wife Dianna Crossen, daughter Gary Crossen, son Sharon Justus, daughter Ron Crossen, son Robert Crossen, son Margaret Whitsett appears to have died at Sedro Woolley, WA, and there is a Ronald Crossen in the Sedro Woolley telephone directory, but despite dozens of calls, I get no answer… Could it be that the original obituaries include more precise information about these families, or maybe someone has other suggestions how I can get in contact with family members? PS: My REAL Challenge with this family is the following: John Jorgenson (Joranger) from Hafslo (Aug. 5, 1827- ) and Caroline Jensdotter from Maalselv (Apr. 11, 1852) farmed at least until 1888 the E½ NW¼ of Section 18 in Wheaton township, Chippewa Co., WI - near the Elk Mound, WI settlement and had at least five children: * Betsy Marie Jorgenson - born 1876/1877 * John Peder Jorgenson - born Oct. 20, 1878 - ended up as a sheep shearer in Seattle, WA * Carl Jorgenson - born June 25, 1880 - was also a sheep shearer in Seattle, WA, but never married * Nels H. Jorgenson, born Dec. 27, 1882 * Christine Jorgenson, born Sep. 4, 1884 When John married in Yakima Co., WA in 1913, he was a resident of Lewiston, ID, and he may also have lived in Carbon Co., WY prior to that, but NOWHERE can I find any members of this family in the 1900 or 1910 censuses!! My hope is that children of Alfred’s or Margaret’s MAY have heard about aunt Betsy, uncle Nels or aunt Christine… Or maybe someone has other suggestions how this family can be traced?? Thanks a million for your great assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane, a frustrated Norwegian! _______________________________________________ Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm _______________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:norway-leave@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/norway@rootsweb.com/ Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Lars, The 1920 census for Seattle shows John, his wife, Anna, son Alfred, and brother Carl. Harold ________________________________ From: Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 5:46 AM To: norway@rootsweb.com Subject: [NOR] Help to find family in the Seatle, WA area? Dear Listers! I am frustrated! It appears to be soo hard to locate nowliving descendants of certain families in the Seattle, WA area, but maybe someone can help me? John Jorgensen (1878-1966) was a sheep shearer and lived for many years in Seattle, WA. He was married and had two children: * Alfred Jorgensen (1914-1948) who married Helen Doucett - she remarried Neil Koselke and died in Seattle, WA Feb. 4, 2011. Her obituary appeared isn the Seattle Times on Feb. 8, 2011. I cannot get up the actual obituary, but an «abstract» of this obituary on FamilySearch gives the following names of spouses and children: Neil Anthony Koselke, husband Marilyn Howard, daughter Larry Koselke, son Dennis Koselke, son Eugene Koselke, son Debra Egeck, daughter Alfred James Jorgenson, husband James Jorgenson, son * Margaret Jorgenson (1925-2003) married three times, 1st to Robert Lennstrom, 2nd to Crossen and 3rd to Floyd Whitsett. No obituary can be found for Margaret, but Floyd Whitsett died at Richland, OR Mar. 31, 2006, and an extract of his obituary from the East Oregonian dated Apr. 11, 2006 lists the following spouse and children: Margaret Anna Crossen, wife Dianna Crossen, daughter Gary Crossen, son Sharon Justus, daughter Ron Crossen, son Robert Crossen, son Margaret Whitsett appears to have died at Sedro Woolley, WA, and there is a Ronald Crossen in the Sedro Woolley telephone directory, but despite dozens of calls, I get no answer… Could it be that the original obituaries include more precise information about these families, or maybe someone has other suggestions how I can get in contact with family members? PS: My REAL Challenge with this family is the following: John Jorgenson (Joranger) from Hafslo (Aug. 5, 1827- ) and Caroline Jensdotter from Maalselv (Apr. 11, 1852) farmed at least until 1888 the E½ NW¼ of Section 18 in Wheaton township, Chippewa Co., WI - near the Elk Mound, WI settlement and had at least five children: * Betsy Marie Jorgenson - born 1876/1877 * John Peder Jorgenson - born Oct. 20, 1878 - ended up as a sheep shearer in Seattle, WA * Carl Jorgenson - born June 25, 1880 - was also a sheep shearer in Seattle, WA, but never married * Nels H. Jorgenson, born Dec. 27, 1882 * Christine Jorgenson, born Sep. 4, 1884 When John married in Yakima Co., WA in 1913, he was a resident of Lewiston, ID, and he may also have lived in Carbon Co., WY prior to that, but NOWHERE can I find any members of this family in the 1900 or 1910 censuses!! My hope is that children of Alfred’s or Margaret’s MAY have heard about aunt Betsy, uncle Nels or aunt Christine… Or maybe someone has other suggestions how this family can be traced?? Thanks a million for your great assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane, a frustrated Norwegian! _______________________________________________ Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm _______________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:norway-leave@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/norway@rootsweb.com/ Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Lars, you don't say who John married in Yakima County. It is quite a large county too and covers more ground than some states. I live in Yakima, but I need a name! There are places to look and I know some of them. He may have worked for the Sheep Company that ran sheep around here about that time. I remember hearing about them when I was a child and my father knew one of the herders. Send me information and I'll spend some time looking for a marriage in 1913. The library in downtown Yakima has the archives of the Yakima Herald and Yakima Republic and also the Polks directory. The Yakima Valley Genealogy Society also has a file of the obituarys that were published in the newspaper. All neatly and alphabetically filed. But I need names! Leslie Quist > > I am frustrated! It appears to be soo hard to locate nowliving > descendants of certain families in the Seattle, WA area, but maybe someone > can help me? > * Betsy Marie Jorgenson - born 1876/1877 > * John Peder Jorgenson - born Oct. 20, 1878 - ended up as a sheep shearer > in Seattle, WA > * Carl Jorgenson - born June 25, 1880 - was also a sheep shearer in > Seattle, WA, but never married > * Nels H. Jorgenson, born Dec. 27, 1882 > * Christine Jorgenson, born Sep. 4, 1884 > > When John married in Yakima Co., WA in 1913, he was a resident of > Lewiston, ID, and he may also have lived in Carbon Co., WY prior to that, > but NOWHERE can I find any members of this family in the 1900 or 1910 > censuses!! > > My hope is that children of Alfred’s or Margaret’s MAY have heard about > aunt Betsy, uncle Nels or aunt Christine… Or maybe someone has other > suggestions how this family can be traced?? > > Thanks a million for your great assistance in this matter! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane, a frustrated Norwegian! > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Norwaylist > Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to > mailto:norway-leave@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/norway@rootsweb.com/ > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Dear Listers! I am frustrated! It appears to be soo hard to locate nowliving descendants of certain families in the Seattle, WA area, but maybe someone can help me? John Jorgensen (1878-1966) was a sheep shearer and lived for many years in Seattle, WA. He was married and had two children: * Alfred Jorgensen (1914-1948) who married Helen Doucett - she remarried Neil Koselke and died in Seattle, WA Feb. 4, 2011. Her obituary appeared isn the Seattle Times on Feb. 8, 2011. I cannot get up the actual obituary, but an «abstract» of this obituary on FamilySearch gives the following names of spouses and children: Neil Anthony Koselke, husband Marilyn Howard, daughter Larry Koselke, son Dennis Koselke, son Eugene Koselke, son Debra Egeck, daughter Alfred James Jorgenson, husband James Jorgenson, son * Margaret Jorgenson (1925-2003) married three times, 1st to Robert Lennstrom, 2nd to Crossen and 3rd to Floyd Whitsett. No obituary can be found for Margaret, but Floyd Whitsett died at Richland, OR Mar. 31, 2006, and an extract of his obituary from the East Oregonian dated Apr. 11, 2006 lists the following spouse and children: Margaret Anna Crossen, wife Dianna Crossen, daughter Gary Crossen, son Sharon Justus, daughter Ron Crossen, son Robert Crossen, son Margaret Whitsett appears to have died at Sedro Woolley, WA, and there is a Ronald Crossen in the Sedro Woolley telephone directory, but despite dozens of calls, I get no answer… Could it be that the original obituaries include more precise information about these families, or maybe someone has other suggestions how I can get in contact with family members? PS: My REAL Challenge with this family is the following: John Jorgenson (Joranger) from Hafslo (Aug. 5, 1827- ) and Caroline Jensdotter from Maalselv (Apr. 11, 1852) farmed at least until 1888 the E½ NW¼ of Section 18 in Wheaton township, Chippewa Co., WI - near the Elk Mound, WI settlement and had at least five children: * Betsy Marie Jorgenson - born 1876/1877 * John Peder Jorgenson - born Oct. 20, 1878 - ended up as a sheep shearer in Seattle, WA * Carl Jorgenson - born June 25, 1880 - was also a sheep shearer in Seattle, WA, but never married * Nels H. Jorgenson, born Dec. 27, 1882 * Christine Jorgenson, born Sep. 4, 1884 When John married in Yakima Co., WA in 1913, he was a resident of Lewiston, ID, and he may also have lived in Carbon Co., WY prior to that, but NOWHERE can I find any members of this family in the 1900 or 1910 censuses!! My hope is that children of Alfred’s or Margaret’s MAY have heard about aunt Betsy, uncle Nels or aunt Christine… Or maybe someone has other suggestions how this family can be traced?? Thanks a million for your great assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane, a frustrated Norwegian!

Hello Carol Put the names, dates and place online here and we might see what we can find/help you with. Halvor in Lier -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: Anne Hildrum <ahildrum@gmail.com> Sendt: onsdag 18. april 2018 21.40 Til: FalkLiebe@t-online.de; norway@rootsweb.com Emne: [NOR] Re: Opinion needed That depends a lot on where who you are looking for lived. Aftenposten are more Oslo and surrounding areas If people lived west or norh it would be totally differen newspapers. If you use the forums you might get people to look them up for youi, Like Dis forum or Digitalarkivet's forum. Also some of the Facebook groups have people with access to different newspapers. Ann Anne -----Original Message----- From: FalkLiebe@t-online.de <FalkLiebe@t-online.de> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 9:03 PM To: norway@rootsweb.com Subject: [NOR] Re: Opinion needed Hi Carol, Aftenposten I would say Regards Falk (Liebezeit) -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: [NOR] Opinion needed Datum: 2018-04-13T20:01:06+0200 Von: "Carol" <hansencj2010@gmail.com> An: "norway@rootsweb.com" <norway@rootsweb.com> Listers: In your experience, what is the best websites to locate obituaries in newspapers? I am willing to pay but not for something that is not up to par. Carol J. Hansen hansencj2010@gmail.com 218-329-6979

That depends a lot on where who you are looking for lived. Aftenposten are more Oslo and surrounding areas If people lived west or norh it would be totally differen newspapers. If you use the forums you might get people to look them up for youi, Like Dis forum or Digitalarkivet's forum. Also some of the Facebook groups have people with access to different newspapers. Ann Anne -----Original Message----- From: FalkLiebe@t-online.de <FalkLiebe@t-online.de> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 9:03 PM To: norway@rootsweb.com Subject: [NOR] Re: Opinion needed Hi Carol, Aftenposten I would say Regards Falk (Liebezeit) -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: [NOR] Opinion needed Datum: 2018-04-13T20:01:06+0200 Von: "Carol" <hansencj2010@gmail.com> An: "norway@rootsweb.com" <norway@rootsweb.com> Listers: In your experience, what is the best websites to locate obituaries in newspapers? I am willing to pay but not for something that is not up to par. Carol J. Hansen hansencj2010@gmail.com 218-329-6979 _______________________________________________ Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm _______________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:norway-leave@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/norway@rootsweb.com/ Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community  _______________________________________________ Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm _______________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:norway-leave@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/norway@rootsweb.com/ Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Carol, Aftenposten I would say Regards Falk (Liebezeit) -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: [NOR] Opinion needed Datum: 2018-04-13T20:01:06+0200 Von: "Carol" <hansencj2010@gmail.com> An: "norway@rootsweb.com" <norway@rootsweb.com> Listers: In your experience, what is the best websites to locate obituaries in newspapers? I am willing to pay but not for something that is not up to par. Carol J. Hansen hansencj2010@gmail.com 218-329-6979 _______________________________________________ Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm _______________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:norway-leave@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/norway@rootsweb.com/ Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community 

Dear Listers, I have discovered another emigrant family from Luster Co., Norway ending (so far) with this lady: Margaret WHITSETT maiden name Jorgensen born Aug. 25, 1925 in Seattle, WA died Dec. 8, 2003 at Sedro Woolley, Skagit Co., WA but used to reside in Seattle, King Co., WA Can someone please help me locate an OBITUARY for this lady? Thanks a million in advance! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane

Everyone, I hadn't heard of a couple of the suggestions. I will check into them. Thank you. Carol J. Hansen hansencj2010@gmail.com 218-329-6979

Take a look at AncestorHunt.com - has lots of links to free papers Fantastic source. > > On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 11:00 AM, Carol <hansencj2010@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Listers: In your experience, what is the best websites to locate > > obituaries > > in newspapers? I am willing to pay but not for something that is not up > to > > par. > > > > Carol J. Hansen > > > > hansencj2010@gmail.com >

As far as paid sites go, l I've used Newspapers.com, Genealogy Bank, NewspaperArchive, and the 19th Century Newspapers database available through NEHGS. Whether paying for any of them is worth it really depends and where you are looking and the time periods that you are looking for. I think all of them provide free access to the lists of which papers they have. Family History Centers have Newspaper Archive, and I think most local libraries have access to at least one newspaper database. And I think some even let you access them from home with a library card. Personally, I have given up on paying for any (except I have an NEHGS membership). I first try the free databases online, then visit the FHC and local libraries (I happen to have easy access to two different counties with different "library systems") if I haven't found anything in the free sites. Marian On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 11:00 AM, Carol <hansencj2010@gmail.com> wrote: > Listers: In your experience, what is the best websites to locate > obituaries > in newspapers? I am willing to pay but not for something that is not up to > par. > > > > > > Carol J. Hansen > > hansencj2010@gmail.com > > 218-329-6979 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/ > index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: https://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:norway-leave@rootsweb.com > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/norway@rootsweb.com/ > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Chronicling America.  Pick a state, any state, and see what they have available for newspapers, locations, time periods.  Web site is free and you can link back to the article(s). https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/ In Minnesota this is duplicated by the Minnesota Historical Society who partnered with the Library of Congress' Chronicling America; again, all free, able to link back to the article(s). http://www.mnhs.org/collections/projects/ndnp.php A friend (and fellow genealogist) likes fee-based Newspapers.org and has found useful things on the site (including some items for me based on names searches), but I can't vouch for the site, just that it was useful in name searches one day.  If you have specific newspapers and locations in mind and know they have the papers that are not available elsewhere, perhaps a one-time short subscription?  That's up to you. Good Luck! Bev On 4/13/2018 1:00 PM, Carol wrote: > Listers: In your experience, what is the best websites to locate obituaries > in newspapers? I am willing to pay but not for something that is not up to > par. > Carol J. Hansen > hansencj2010@gmail.com > 218-329-6979 > > > > >