Hi Dex, Thanks for responding so quickly. As you can see, I daughtered-out much earlier than you did, though we do follow the same line for 3 generations here in the US. As for what I have, I'm forwarding you a copy of my notes on our immigrant ancestor GEORGE, b ca 1605. I'd be happy to send more if you'd like. What do you have on THOMAS & WILLIAM born England and their spouses, GRACE WELLS and DENISE CHOLMELY? I don't have much of anything, though I've been told that this NORTON line dates quite far back. Looking forward to hearing from you. Betty Brady My notes on GEORGE NORTON, Authority: Ancestral Chart, data provided by Pelham St. G. Bissell, Jr. to William W. Molla, before 1981. GEORGE NORTON, to US in 1629, m. MARY. Authority: Notes from "The Little Black Book of Pelham St. George Bissell, Jr.," 1930-1943 as transcribed by his son, George Henry Bissell, in 1996, p. 17: 1. George Norton - of Salem, Mass., b. England. Emigrated from Higgenson to Salem in 1629. Went to Gloucester in 1641 and was selectman and its representative in General Court in 1642, 1643 & 1644, in which year he returned to Salem, where he d. 1659. m. Mary _____. Authority - The Great Migration Begins, Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, by NEGHS: GEORGE NORTON Origin: Unknown Immigration: 1629 First Residence: Salem Removes: Gloucester 1642, Wenham 1645, Salem Occupation: Carpenter. Innkeeper ("George Norton licensed to keep an ordinary upon the road where he dwells, and to sell strong waters to travellers," 29 June 1658 [EQC 2:100]; license renewed, 28 June 1659 [EQC 2:164]). Church Membership: Included in list of Salem church members compiled late in 1636 (with later annotation "dead") [SChR 5]; admission prior to 14 May 1634 implied by freemanship. 13 April 1645: "George Norton, a member of the church at Gloucester, was admitted to participate" in communion at Wenham [Fiske Notebook 31]. On 21 September 1645 Gloucester church issued a letter of dismission for George Norton, and on 28 September Wenham church, after examining his spiritual state, admitted him to the covenant [Fiske Notebook 36-38]. Freeman: 14 May 1634 [MBCR 1:368]. Education: Signed inventory of Mary Hersome of Wenham, 2 September 1646 [EQC 1:106]. OFFICES: Essex jury, 27 March 1638, 25 June 1639, 30 June 1640 [EQC 1:7, 11, 19]. Deputy of the Salem marshal (apparently for Gloucester), 2 November 1642 [EQC 1:52]. Essex grand jury (for Salem), 24 November 1657 [EQC 2:58]. Essex trial jury, 28 June 1659 [EQC 2:157]. Gloucester deputy to General Court, 8 September 1642, 10 May 1643 [MBCR 2:22, 33]. Gloucester member of committee on bounds between Ipswich and Gloucester, 3 May 1642 [MBCR 2:4]. Commissioner to end small causes at Gloucester, 10 May 1643 [MBCR 2:35]. On 29 May 1644 it was "ordered, (at the request of the town of Glocester,) that George Norton (as their eldest sergeant) shall exercise their military company" [MBCR 2:67]. Estate: In the 1636 Salem land grant received forty acres "above Mr. Cole" (in the "freeman's" section of the list) [STR 1:20, 26]. In the 25 December 1637 Salem division of marsh received three-quarters of an acre, with a household of five [STR 1:102]. In response to a petition, the General Court on 13 May 1640 granted to a "company" of men, including "Geo: Norton," "Jeffryes Creek, and land to erect a village there" [MBCR 1:289]. On 30 January 1643[/4] twelve acres meadow in the Great Meadow at Wenham laid out according to "former grants to Richard Prince Sarah the now wife of Daniell Rumbull in the right of George Norton and John White" [STR 1:181]. On 29 November 1659 administration on the estate of George Norton was granted to his wife, Mary Norton. The inventory of the estate of George Norton was taken 22 September 1659 and totalled œ134 11s. 6d., with no real estate included. Freegrace Norton and John Norton, children of George Norton, petitioned for division of the estate, mentioning mother Mary Norton, and listing the children: Freegrace, aged 24; John, aged 22; Nathaniel, aged 20; George, aged 18; Mary, aged 16; Mehittabell, aged 14; Sarah, aged 12; Hannah, aged 10; Abigaill, aged 8; and Ellizabeth, aged 5 [EPR 1:304]. Birth: By about 1610 based on estimated date of marriage. Death: Between June 1659 (tavern license) and 22 September 1659 (inventory). Marriage: By about 1635 Mary ____; she was admitted to Salem church 4 September 1637 [SChR 7]. She married (2) Ipswich 27 February 1659[/60] PHILIP FOWLER (with whom she defended her administration of George's estate, November Term 1665 [EQC 3:285]). (Seversmith dismisses the undocumented claim that she was Mary Machias; he also argues convincingly that the claim that Mary was sister of Bethia Cartwright of Salem derives from a misreading of the will of Bethia [TAG 15:194-95].) Children: i. FREEGRACE, b. about 1635; m. Ipswich 3 August 16[58-62] Lydia Spencer. ii. JOHN, bp. Salem 2 October 1637 [SChR 16]; m. Salem 3 April 1660 Mary Sharp. iii. NATHANIEL, bp. Salem 29 May 1639 [SChR 17]; m. by about 1665 Mary Mills, daughter of Richard Mills (eldest child b. about 1665 [TAG 15:197]; Mary Norton, daughter of "Nathanael & Mary, & grandchild of Mr. Mils" who "was in communion in the elder church in Stratford" was bp. in the "younger" church in Stratford on 28 September 1673 [TAG 9:18; see also FOOF 1:411]). iv. GEORGE, bp. Salem 28 March 1641 [SChR 18]; m. (1) Ipswich 7 October 1669 Sarah Hart; m. (2) Windsor 14 June 1683 Mercy (Barber) Gillett [CTVR 52], widow of John Gillett (son of JONATHAN GILLETT) and daughter of Thomas Barber [Manwaring 1:94]. v. MARY, b. Gloucester 28 February 1643; m. Ipswich 14 October 1664 Thomas Hart. vi. MEHITABLE, b. about 1645; m. Ipswich 20 December 1664 Samuel Adams. vii. SARAH, bp. Wenham 15 February 1646/7 [Fiske Notebook 49]; m. Ipswich [blank] Feb. 1678 Samuel Hart. viii. HANNAH, b. about 1649; living 1689 [TAG 15:196 (evidence not cited)]. ix. ABIGAIL, b. about 1651; prob. m. Andover 30 March 1676 Samuel Martin. x. ELIZABETH, b. about 1654; prob. m. Ipswich 13 November 1676 Josiah Bridges. (She did not marry John Wainwright [TAG 30:18; NEHGR 13:230].) Comments: In their 17 April 1629 letter to John Endicott, in a section informing him of various settlers being sent over that year, the Massachusetts Bay Company included "one Norton, a carpenter, whom we pray you respect as he shall deserve" [MBCR 1:396]. This has been assumed, with good reason, to be George Norton, since George was later referred to as a carpenter. George Norton was presented at Salem Court for "lying and subborning witnesses to scandalize the church of Wenham, to pay 20s. for two lies and seven witnesses three days, and to confess before the assembly met at Wenham in the meeting house, as follows: `I do confess and acknowledge that I have sinfully endeavored to justify myself and my turbulent and factious agitations against the just and orderly proceedings of the church against me for my sin in that I have incessantly labored out of the pride of my heart to gather up witnesses of all sorts to testify against the dealing of the church with me seeking thereby to lay a scandal upon the church which cannot but greatly tend to the dishonor of God and the reproach of religion.' Refusing to make this confession, to sit one hour in the stocks" [EQC 1:156]. (The misbehavior of George Norton was the principal matter of church business at Wenham throughout 1648 and 1649 [Fiske Notebook 57-88].) At November Term 1665, Mary Norton's new husband, Philip Fowler, in her right as administratrix of George Norton's estate, successfully sued Roger Preston for an incompleted lease on John Endicott's farm called "Groton." Norton had leased it for ten years, beginning 1 March 1655/6 for 118 per year, and was to build a strong and sufficient house, "in every way like that of Mr. Tredwell at Ipswich, except Norton was to make catted chimneys instead of brick, and was to leave the house tenantable at the end of the term ... in consideration for which he was to have one year of the rent of the farm free" [EQC 3:286]. Roger Preston had agreed to take over the lease starting 14 March 1659/60, but was reluctant after the death of Norton in 1659. Savage stated that between his residences at Gloucester and Wenham, George Norton resided briefly at Ipswich, but this was his son of the same name [TAG 15:196]. With regard to the baptism of daughter Mary in Gloucester in 1643, Savage made the peculiar statement "unless this were mistake, as to me seems probable for Henry" [Savage 3:291]. Since the list of children of George Norton does include a daughter Mary of the right age, but no Henry of any age, it is hard to understand what Savage intended here. In his treatment of George Norton, Herbert F. Seversmith provided baptismal dates for the last two daughters from the Salem church [TAG 15:196]. The dates are correct, but the first of them is for a son John rather than daughter Abigail. These two baptisms, in 1651 for John and 1653 for Elizabeth, are for children of "Mr. Norton," who at this time in Salem would be Francis Norton. Bibiliographic Note: In 1939 Herbert F. Seversmith compiled a sketch of the life and family of George Norton, along with an examination of Norton's possible English ancestry; Seversmith thought the derivation from the Nortons of Sharpenhoe, Bedfordshire, was unlikely [TAG 15:193-207]. Authority - (?) - The following text was sent to me from Scott McArthur, PC, 112 N. Atwater Street, Monmouth, Oregon 97361. January 15, 1995. George Norton sailed from Isle of Wight about May 11, 1629, previous port Gravesend, England, aboard the ship Talbot, of London, Thomas Beecher, Master, and arrived at Salem, Mass., July 29. He was a member of the party of Rev. Francis Higgingson, of Leicester, England, consisting of about 100 planters and servants. The Talbot was one of five ships. In April, 1629, George was a resident of Salem, a carpenter. He was a Freeman, Massachusetts Bay Colony on May 14, 1634. In 1634, he was contracted to build the meeting house at Salem for 100 pounds. He served on juries, 1638-1640. In 1640 he was one of a company of men authorized by the General Court to erect a village in Jeffries Creek, now Manchaster. In 1642 he was the owner of a farm at Little Good Harbor. In 1644-48 in Wenham. February 1648, George Norton in the Quarterly Court of Essex County sentenced to pay 20 shillings and sit one hour in the stocks (having refused to make confession) for "lying and subborning witnesses to scandalize the church at Wenham." In 1656 he leased a farm called Groton from Lucia Downing for 10 years from March 1, 1656, at rent of 18 pounds per year payable in Indian corn, wheat, barley, port, butter, cheese, and cattle. he was to build a house, the chimney of brick, and therefore to have one year's rent free. He was Deputy of Massachusetts General Court 1642-43-44. Sergeant and Drill Master in 1644. Authority - The Compendium Of American Genealogy, Immigrant Ancestors, by Frederick Adams Virkus, CD/Genealgical Pub. Co., Inc., Disk 3, Vol. VII, p. 343: 9. GEORGE NORTON, from Eng. 1632, with Rev. Higginson; settled at Salem, Mass.; rep. from Gloucester to Gen Assembly, Boston, 1642-44; m. MARY MACHIAS; 8. GEORGE (1641-96), Ipswich, Mass.; ens., 1682; capt., 1693; m. 1st. SARAH HART (d. 1682); 1 Thomas NORTON b: Abt. 1589 in Prob. England 2 George NORTON, Sr., qv b: Bef. 1610 in England d: Bef. September 22, 1659 in of Salem,Gloucester, Wentham, MA ...... +MARY b: Abt. 1613 in of Salem, Essex, MA m: Bef. 1635 .. 3 George NORTON, Jr., Capt. b: Bef. March 28, 1641 in Salem, Essex Co., MA d: November 15, 1696 in Suffield, Hartford Co., CT ........ +Sarah HART b: Abt. 1648 in Ipswich, Essex, MA m: October 07, 1669 in Ipswich, MA d: June 23, 1682 in Suffield, Hartford Co., CT .... 4 George NORTON, 3rd. b: November 10, 1671 in Ipswich, Essex Co., MA d: February 13, 1741/42 in Suffield, Hartford, Co., CT .......... +Hannah YOUNGLOVE m: 1695 d: November 23, 1715 in Suffield, Hartford, CT ....... 5 John NORTON b: 1706 in Suffield, Hartford Co., CT d: April 30, 1783 in Suffield, Hartford Co., CT ............. +Rebecca SHELDON b: 1714 d: May 14, 1793 in Suffield, Hartford Co., CT ......... 6 Daniel NORTON b: September 13, 1751 in Suffield, Hartford Co., CT d: January 17, 1814 in Suffield, Hartford Co., CT ............... +Lucy KING b: 1753 m: November 07, 1790 in Suffield, Hartford Co., CT d: August 21, 1831 in Suffield, Hartford Co., CT ........... 7 Lucy King NORTON b: December 18, 1793 in Suffield, Hartford Co., CT d: March 16, 1865 in Suffield, Hartford Co., CT ................. +Asaph Leavitt BISSELL, MD b: January 01, 1791 in Suffield, Hartford Co., CT m: June 03, 1819 in Suffield, Hartford Co., CT d: August 01, 1850 in Suffield, Hartford Co., CT Original Message ----- From: "eleven" <eleven@mfi.net> To: <baylady5@comcast.net> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [NORTON] NORTON's arriving in 1600's > Hi Betty, > > We are distant cousins. > > My Lineage: > > My maternal Grandmother was Nellie Nichols, daughter of: > Tacy Norton b. OH 1833 m. Wm H Nichols > going on back the line: > Norton Wm b. PA 1805 m. Jane Michener > Norton, John b. PA 1760 m. Christina Jane Noss > Norton John b. CT ca 1740 > Norton, Thomas b. CT ca 1708 > Norton, George b. MA ca 1672 m. Hannah Younglove > Norton, George b MA 1641 m. Sarah Hart > Norton, George b. ca 1605 m. Mary Machias > Norton, Thomas b. Eng 1570 m. Grace Wells > Norton, William b. Eng 1534 m Denise Cholmley > > I have quite a bit of data on the NORTON family. > > What do you have? > > Dex White eleven@mfi.net > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <baylady5@comcast.net> > To: <NORTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 11:22 AM > Subject: [NORTON] NORTON's arriving in 1600's > > > > BlankThis is my first message to the Norton list service as I am a new > > member. > > > > I am a descendant of two NORTON families who arrived in the colonies > during > > the 1600's. > > > > They are: > > > > GEORGE NORTON SR, b 1609 England, d. 1659 Salem, MA > > > > & > > > > NICHOLAS NORTON, JR, b. 1610 England, d. aft April 17, 1690, Edgartown, > > Martha's Vineyard, MA. > > > > I would very much enjoy the opportunity to learn about either of the > above's > > ancestry. > > > > I would also enjoy sharing the information I have gathered regarding these > > two families. > > > > Looking forward to hearing from you. > > > > Betty > > > > > > > > ==== NORTON Mailing List ==== > > NORTON List Website > > Carlota Norton Robinson Memorial Website > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~norton > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > >