This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Qi3.2ACIB/1144.1168.1170 Message Board Post: Hi, i would be interesred in any info on the De Norville that appeared to come with William I - ie: he of the [later] Sharpenhoe estate, Streatley, Bedfordshire, UK..

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Norton Winch Uxbridge bef .1655 Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Qi3.2ACIB/1144.1199.1201.1203.1213.1214.1216.1217.1 Message Board Post: The Sharpenhoe Norton could be from the 'De Norville' of 1066 and all that and they sold up and dispered in the mid 1600's - to the America's for one, but not all went that far - as the Uxbridge parish register shows a Daniel Norton married a Dorothy WINCH [another good Bedfordshire name, back then] on 10th October 1655 - Where did he come from? Bedfordshire, just 15 miles from Rickmansworth where he is buried? of further? I would like to know where he came from. As to where he went, well not far from where I am right now, according to his, his wifes and descendants wills.

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Norton Maciver Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Qi3.2ACIB/1705 Message Board Post: I am interested in contacting descendants of this Florence Norton/MacIver union, or, her brothers and sisters. If you could advise of any other researcher or contact with this family I would be obliged to you. Florence Norton [b1857] youngest daughter of Daniel Norton. Florence is detailed in her fathers will as wife of Colonel H R H MacIver. The following comes from the "marriages" section of the Times on Friday June 28, 1878 "On the 27th June, at St Dunstan's Church West1, by the Rev. Richard Earle, Brigadier-General MACIVER to FLORENCE, youngest daughter of DANIEL NORTON, Esq. of Northwood Park and the Dell, Bonchurch, I.W." I also have a copy of the actual registration/license. Henry Ronald Hislop Douglas MacIver, a Soldier of Fortune, who served in some18 different armies, was a son of Ronald MacIver (c1815-c1858) Ross-Shire, Scotland and Anna Douglas (c1818-c1859) of Virginia of Scottish descent. . He was described in 'The World, Melbourne, Thursday, May 29, 1884.' as "Tall - say six feet - and erect in bearing, weather-bronzed face, clean shaven, except for military moustache and imperial; brown, grey-tinged hair, close cropped to the well-set head; keen grey eves with quiet resolution stamped on every feature - such in appearance is Brigadier-General MacIver, the soldier who has fought "under fourteen flags," who has won his way from cadetship to command of brigade." There is no mention of MacIver having married in any of the published books on him, his death certificate shows that he was a widower and his obit in the New York Times refers to a surviving daughter in England. Henry Ronald Hislop Douglas MacIver was a soldier of fortune that lived from 1841 to 1907. He was born on board a ship on its way to Virginia on Christmas Day 1841. His father was a Scottish gentleman from Ross-shire called Ronald MacIver. His mother was Anna Douglas, the daughter of a plantation owner in Virginia. MacIver spent the early years of his life in Virginia, learning to ride and shoot, but when he was 10 years old he was sent to Edinburgh to be educated, under the guardianship of a family friend, retired general Donald Graham. Florence Norton was the youngest daughter of Daniel Norton, a wealthy timber merchant who lived near Ruislip, Middlesex. The Norton's also had a home on the Isle of Wight, where MacIver was known to have holidayed after his Serbian campaign, so it is possible that they met there. It appears that Daniel Norton disapproved of the match and so on Florence's 21st Birthday (the earliest she could marry without parental consent) they married in St Dunstan's in the west, a church in Fleet Street, London. MacIver was 36. The incident has parallels with his attempted elopement with a 'Bianca' (see ref books). MacIver retired from active service and settled down to domesticity, fathering three daughters. But it appears that this was not to last. The fact that none of the published accounts of his life mentions his wife and family is strange. Although it was not unusual for the Victorians to virtually ignore women, not to acknowledge them at all is rare, especially after Under Fourtee! n Flags at least mentions some of his earlier liaisons. MacIver's final years were spent in enforced retirement, under difficult financial conditions. He lied about his age, claiming to be five, even ten years younger than he actually was, but it didn't seem to help him. He lived the life of a respectable vagrant, from boarding house to boarding house, but always taking care in his appearance and maintaining a gentlemanly manner. He had no inheritance from his marriage; Daniel Norton had ensured that after his death in 1888, Florence and her children were provided for from the trust [below], which made no allowance for MacIver. None of the nations or people he had fought for provided a pension, and many of the people he worked for were by then dead or deposed, and unable or unwilling to help. He made some money from selling his story to journalists such as Richard Harding Davis. By the turn of the century MacIver was still seeking employment. MacIver died in at his lodging ! house in New York on May 6 1907, and his death certificate makes interesting reading. According to known newspaper reports MacIver died from heart failure. . News of his death in New York was published in the New York Times along with a short resume of his life. It mentions just one daughter living in England. In fact he had three daughters although they may have pre-deceased him as his wife Florence had [as he was described as a widower]. The following passages are from the will of Daniel Norton, brother of William, Uncle of Algernon and the Great Uncle of the compiler of these extracts. Of interest to the foregoing section on Florence Norton, Colonel MacIver and their three children, is the 9th paragraph. Of general interest is Daniels attitude toward Florence's behavior and what provoked him to revisit her legacy. I note that Daniel revisited other behests, by use of codicil, to cut back sums awarded to the only niece he acknowledges. [Paragraph] 9. I bequeath to my trustees and assigns the sum of eight thousand pounds three pounds percent.. the said trust legacy /./herein after called the MacIver trust legacy upon trust to pay one equal moiety or half part of the dividends and income thereof to my daughter Florence MacIver the wife of Colonel MacIver for her life for her separate use independently or her present of any future husband and his debts and control /./for or towards the maintenance education advancement or benefit of all or any one or more ...of the three children of the said Florence MacIver by her present husband .......subject to the life interest of my said daughter Florence MacIver herein) in trust for all and every or any the three children or child of my said daughter Florence MacIver by her present husband who shall survive me and shall be /./the said three children shall live to attain a vested interest under the trusts hereinbefore contained then the MacIver trust legacy /./And I her! eby declare that my said daughter Florence MacIver shall from the day of my decease /./receive the monthly sum of ten pounds out of the income of my residuary estate the first of such monthly sums to accrue and be paid at /./ my decease And I further declare that my trustees shall receive the first half yearly dividend on the MacIver trust legacy when it shall have become due and shall pay to my said daughter Florence MacIver the sum of ten pounds every month until the next half yearly dividend on the said trust legacy shall become payable and such monthly payments shall continue during the life of my daughter Florence MacIver /./ I also hereby and declare and state that in and by my previous will I had appropriated the whole of life interest in the MacIver trust legacy for the benefit of my daughter Florence MacIver but in consequence of her unnatural conduct 2I have thought it my duty to make a great change and I have therefore reduced her interest by one half and made t! he other stipulations and provisions mentioned and referred to in this paragraph of my will' I am interested in contacting descendants of this Florence Norton/MacIver union, or, her brothers and sisters. If you could advise of any other researcher or contact with this family I would be obliged to you.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Norton Maciver Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Qi3.2ACIB/1704 Message Board Post: I am interested in contacting descendants of this Florence Norton/MacIver union, or, her brothers and sisters. If you could advise of any other researcher or contact with this family I would be obliged to you. Florence Norton [b1857] youngest daughter of Daniel Norton. Florence is detailed in her fathers will as wife of Colonel H R H MacIver. The following comes from the "marriages" section of the Times on Friday June 28, 1878 "On the 27th June, at St Dunstan's Church West1, by the Rev. Richard Earle, Brigadier-General MACIVER to FLORENCE, youngest daughter of DANIEL NORTON, Esq. of Northwood Park and the Dell, Bonchurch, I.W." I also have a copy of the actual registration/license. Henry Ronald Hislop Douglas MacIver, a Soldier of Fortune, who served in some18 different armies, was a son of Ronald MacIver (c1815-c1858) Ross-Shire, Scotland and Anna Douglas (c1818-c1859) of Virginia of Scottish descent. . He was described in 'The World, Melbourne, Thursday, May 29, 1884.' as "Tall - say six feet - and erect in bearing, weather-bronzed face, clean shaven, except for military moustache and imperial; brown, grey-tinged hair, close cropped to the well-set head; keen grey eves with quiet resolution stamped on every feature - such in appearance is Brigadier-General MacIver, the soldier who has fought "under fourteen flags," who has won his way from cadetship to command of brigade." There is no mention of MacIver having married in any of the published books on him, his death certificate shows that he was a widower and his obit in the New York Times refers to a surviving daughter in England. Henry Ronald Hislop Douglas MacIver was a soldier of fortune that lived from 1841 to 1907. He was born on board a ship on its way to Virginia on Christmas Day 1841. His father was a Scottish gentleman from Ross-shire called Ronald MacIver. His mother was Anna Douglas, the daughter of a plantation owner in Virginia. MacIver spent the early years of his life in Virginia, learning to ride and shoot, but when he was 10 years old he was sent to Edinburgh to be educated, under the guardianship of a family friend, retired general Donald Graham. Florence Norton was the youngest daughter of Daniel Norton, a wealthy timber merchant who lived near Ruislip, Middlesex. The Norton's also had a home on the Isle of Wight, where MacIver was known to have holidayed after his Serbian campaign, so it is possible that they met there. It appears that Daniel Norton disapproved of the match and so on Florence's 21st Birthday (the earliest she could marry without parental consent) they married in St Dunstan's in the west, a church in Fleet Street, London. MacIver was 36. The incident has parallels with his attempted elopement with a 'Bianca' (see ref books). MacIver retired from active service and settled down to domesticity, fathering three daughters. But it appears that this was not to last. The fact that none of the published accounts of his life mentions his wife and family is strange. Although it was not unusual for the Victorians to virtually ignore women, not to acknowledge them at all is rare, especially after Under Fourtee! n Flags at least mentions some of his earlier liaisons. MacIver's final years were spent in enforced retirement, under difficult financial conditions. He lied about his age, claiming to be five, even ten years younger than he actually was, but it didn't seem to help him. He lived the life of a respectable vagrant, from boarding house to boarding house, but always taking care in his appearance and maintaining a gentlemanly manner. He had no inheritance from his marriage; Daniel Norton had ensured that after his death in 1888, Florence and her children were provided for from the trust [below], which made no allowance for MacIver. None of the nations or people he had fought for provided a pension, and many of the people he worked for were by then dead or deposed, and unable or unwilling to help. He made some money from selling his story to journalists such as Richard Harding Davis. By the turn of the century MacIver was still seeking employment. MacIver died in at his lodging ! house in New York on May 6 1907, and his death certificate makes interesting reading. According to known newspaper reports MacIver died from heart failure. . News of his death in New York was published in the New York Times along with a short resume of his life. It mentions just one daughter living in England. In fact he had three daughters although they may have pre-deceased him as his wife Florence had [as he was described as a widower]. The following passages are from the will of Daniel Norton, brother of William, Uncle of Algernon and the Great Uncle of the compiler of these extracts. Of interest to the foregoing section on Florence Norton, Colonel MacIver and their three children, is the 9th paragraph. Of general interest is Daniels attitude toward Florence's behavior and what provoked him to revisit her legacy. I note that Daniel revisited other behests, by use of codicil, to cut back sums awarded to the only niece he acknowledges. [Paragraph] 9. I bequeath to my trustees and assigns the sum of eight thousand pounds three pounds percent.. the said trust legacy /./herein after called the MacIver trust legacy upon trust to pay one equal moiety or half part of the dividends and income thereof to my daughter Florence MacIver the wife of Colonel MacIver for her life for her separate use independently or her present of any future husband and his debts and control /./for or towards the maintenance education advancement or benefit of all or any one or more ...of the three children of the said Florence MacIver by her present husband .......subject to the life interest of my said daughter Florence MacIver herein) in trust for all and every or any the three children or child of my said daughter Florence MacIver by her present husband who shall survive me and shall be /./the said three children shall live to attain a vested interest under the trusts hereinbefore contained then the MacIver trust legacy /./And I her! eby declare that my said daughter Florence MacIver shall from the day of my decease /./receive the monthly sum of ten pounds out of the income of my residuary estate the first of such monthly sums to accrue and be paid at /./ my decease And I further declare that my trustees shall receive the first half yearly dividend on the MacIver trust legacy when it shall have become due and shall pay to my said daughter Florence MacIver the sum of ten pounds every month until the next half yearly dividend on the said trust legacy shall become payable and such monthly payments shall continue during the life of my daughter Florence MacIver /./ I also hereby and declare and state that in and by my previous will I had appropriated the whole of life interest in the MacIver trust legacy for the benefit of my daughter Florence MacIver but in consequence of her unnatural conduct 2I have thought it my duty to make a great change and I have therefore reduced her interest by one half and made t! he other stipulations and provisions mentioned and referred to in this paragraph of my will' I am interested in contacting descendants of this Florence Norton/MacIver union, or, her brothers and sisters. If you could advise of any other researcher or contact with this family I would be obliged to you.

Norton Lewis, d. October 30, 1841 @ 33y "Far from my native land I came, To find this peaceful grave." http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenese/stonechurch.htm

Anyone looking for Phebe ? Have not other info about her .. Was buried at Reed Cemetery- Oakfield, Genesee Co., NY Other Norton's with her do not know if related ? Norton, Elmer J. Jun. 1929 Jun. 1929 Our Baby 12 Norton, Ethel M 1907 1997 12 Norton, James E. 1906 1977 http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenese/reedcem.htm Jill ...

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Qi3.2ACIB/1703 Message Board Post: Looking for ANYTHING on my grandfather Daniel Norton. I know virtually nothing about his origins. I was told by an older relative that he was the youngest of 3 or maybe 4, the older siblings being all girls. I was also told that he was the only one born in the US, the older kids all born in Cork, Ireland (not certain). Another clue is that he was raised in Springfield, OH (or is that IL?) in the 1870s. He married Dorthy Tilghman and lived the majority of his life in Chandler, OK. He was also a Spanish War Veteran. I would kill to find his parents and/or sisters. Ring any bells??

a few Norton's from the 1870 Census , Long Island, NY NORTON, Chauncey 33 M W NY RIVERHEAD SUFFOLK NORTON, Chauncy W 34 M W NY SOUTHAMPTON SUFFOLK NORTON, Davis 80 M W NY BROOKHAVEN SUFFOLK NORTON, Edward S is M W NY RIVERHEAD SUFFOLK NORTON, Elisha 68 M W NY BROOKHAVEN SUFFOLK NORTON, Elizabeth 13 F W NY SOUTHOLD SUFFOLK NORTON, George 14 M W NY SOUTHOLD SUFFOLK NORTON, Jehiel S 48 M W NY BROOKHAVEN SUFFOLK NORTON, John L 67 M W NY HEMPSTEAD QUEENS NORTON, John L B 35 M W NY HEMPSTEAD QUEENS NORTON, John L C 25 M W NY HEMPSTEAD QUEENS NORTON, Laura D 13 F W NY ISLIP SUFFOLK NORTON, Maria 38 F W IREL ISLIP SUFFOLK NORTON, Martha 32 F W NY BROOKHAVEN SUFFOLK NORTON, Martin 33 M W NY 17-WD BROOKLYN KINGS NORTON, Minor 45 M W NY BROOKHAVEN SUFFOLK NORTON, Murtisia 60 F W PA 19-WD BROOKLYN KINGS NORTON, N Davis 50 M W NY BROOKHAVEN SUFFOLK NORTON: Nelson 63 M W NY BROOKHAVEN SUFFOLK NORTON, Noah 21 M W NY BROOKHAVEN SUFFOLK NORTON, Richard 50 M W NY RIVERHEAD SUFFOLK NORTON, Saml F 55 M W NY BROOKHAVEN SUFFOLK NORTON, Samuel R B 67 M W NY HEMPSTEAD QUEENS NORTON, Sarah 70 F W NY BROOKHAVEN SUFFOLK NORTON, Sarah 83 F W NY BROOKHAVEN SUFFOLK NORTON, Sidney 49 M W NY 21-WD BROOKLYN KINGS

James Norton, of Brookhaven. 31 Dec 1832. Adm. widow Cherry, father Bryan Norton. Bond William Griffing, George Miller, both of Riverhead. Children: Joel D., Lemuel F. ( or Samuel ? ) , Mary E, Bryant G., Fanny E., Alma S. ( or T . ), William W. File 2508. p.68. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Richard Norton, of Brookhaven. Oct 13, 1831. Adm. widow Sarah and son Nelson. Bond. Davis Norton, Austin Roe. Heirs; said widow and son, and Mary A., Richard A., James M.=( Jane Minerva) , Sidney S(mith) , and John M(ilton) , minor children. Bond: 2401. p 34. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jabez Norton, of Brookhaven. 22 May 1807 . Bequests to wife, not named. Legacy to "only daughter" Ruth. Balance to sons Richard and Davis. Exts: brother Bryan Norton, Joseph B. Roe. Wits: Joseph B. , Polly, and J Brewster Roe. Pro: 5 Jan 1811. pp 122-124. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Qi3.2ACIB/18.24.1.2.1.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Donna if you could give me some of the names of your Norton line especially the older ones maybe I might recognize some of them.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Qi3.2ACIB/18.24.1.2.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: I am sure there is a connection in some way. This Henry Wilson Norton is somehow part of my family and Van Zandt county plays right into where my Nortons came from TN. Let me know if you find any more info and I will let you know if I find anything else. Thanks. Donna

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Qi3.2ACIB/2.897 Message Board Post: I have a Thomas Norton born 11 July 1697 from CT. Most of the Nortons in my line are from Guilford CT. We trace our family back to Le Seigneur de Norville 1066 who came over with William The Conqueror.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Qi3.2ACIB/18.24.1.2.1.1.2 Message Board Post: I'm sorry I misread the age of H.W. and Elizabeth Norton's child. The baby was 6 months not 6 yrs. so if this is the same Henry Wilson Norton the child probably didn't live to 1860. I believe Elizabeth's maiden name was Crabtree. Malinda could be her sister if she had been married before which would explain her last name as Carter. David was supposed to have married Elizabeth's sister so if Malinda went by Linda or if the census taker for 1860 Parker County just heard Linda which would explain why she is listed as L. Norton then his 1st wife could have died and he then married Malinda. My David and Henry were both born in Tennessee as were both of the men on the 1850 census for Van Zandt County, Texas.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Qi3.2ACIB/18.24.1.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I am not sure but maybe. In 1860 David Owen Norton's wife is listed as L. Norton (He could have re-married) but he has a 15 yr. old with the initial J. and a 13 yr. old with the initial M which would fit. He doesn't have a child with T. E. initial age 11. His brother is John Fletcher Norton so the J. F. would probably be correct. Henry Wilson Norton's wife was named Elizabeth but I'm not sure about the child. In 1860 she would have been 16 and maybe married which would explain the reason she wasn't listed on that census with them. Not sure about Malinda Carter. I will check further. Are you related?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Qi3.2ACIB/18.24.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Sharon, I have the 1850 census for Van Zandt County, Texas showing a D. O. Norton, wife C. A. Norton, 5 year old child J. F., 3 year old child M. R. and 1 year old child T. E. Next door there is also a H. W. Norton with wife, Elizabeth, and children, F. L. age 6/12 and a Malinda Carter age 25. Does this fit into your info anywhere?

The following information comes from the Family History Resource File 1880 Census CD published by the LDS. Wells, Rutland County, Vermont is about 2 miles from Granville, New York Hope this helps Bruce Phalen bruce@ivisions.com Census Place: Wells, Rutland, Vermont Source: FHL Film 1255348 National Archives Film T9-1348 Page 472C Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Amos NORTON Self M M W 26 NY Occ: Farmer Fa: NY Mo: NY Josie NORTON Wife F M W 24 NY Occ: Keeping House Fa: NY Mo: NY James A. NORTON Son M S W 2 NY Fa: NY Mo: NY Nelson H. NORTON Son M S W 1 VT Fa: NY Mo: NY Cynthia NORTON Mother F W W 68 NY Occ: Keeping House Fa: RI Mo: MA William HILL Other M S W 24 NY Occ: Farm Laborer - Servant Fa: NY Mo: NY Theron MC CLURE Other M S W 15 NY Occ: Farm Laborer - Servant Fa: NY Mo: NY Bridget CONNOLLY Other F M W 31 IRE Occ: Domestic Servant Fa: IRE Mo: IRE

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Norton-Davis Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Qi3.2ACIB/2.896 Message Board Post: I am a Norton, ancestors mostly from NY and Mass. Farthest back I can go is to a James Norton, md to Charry (Charity) Davis, lived on Long Island in Patchogue/Brookhaven area. Have names/birthdates of all of their children - some sketchy info that some of the Norton's lived across LI Sound in CT and were sailors, that they may have come from the Salem/Gloucester area of Mass. Same family?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Norton Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Qi3.2ACIB/1691.2.1 Message Board Post: No, I am sorry but it is definitely "Rosie" and I think they are from Kansas, Illinois, or Ohio.