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    1. [NORTON] Re: Alabama Nortons Indian Marriage
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Qi3.2ACIB/713.781.785.787.1026.1030.1.1 Message Board Post: Sorry the names nor dates match up, good luck on your search.

    10/29/2002 01:16:16
    1. [NORTON] Re: THOMAS NORTON
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Qi3.2ACIB/1617.1.2.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Sorry the obit doesn't list childrens names, His brothers I know of were Ellis, Ernest and Walter and Claude

    10/29/2002 01:07:37
    1. [NORTON] Re: ernest norton & musa dunevan Heard County
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Qi3.2ACIB/1603.1.1.1 Message Board Post: No, my gr grandfather fathers name was T.H. Norton, thanks anyway.

    10/29/2002 12:56:46
    1. [NORTON] Norton update-repost
    2. Regi Milan
    3. Hi all, I've been enjoying everyone's postings to the list, and realized I haven't posted any info myself in quite some time. So, I thought I'd shoot out there some of the info I have and see if I catch a line with anyone. Here are the locations and time periods my Nortons were found in: 1700-1787, Albany, New York (Reformed Dutch Church area) 1787-1804, Hyde Park and Essex, Vermont 1804-1892+, Eastern Townships of Quebec (mainly Missisquoi & Brome Counties) 1892-1940+, Orleans County area of Vermont (namely Barton, Newport, etc.) 1930-1970+, Hampden County area of Massachusetts (namely Springfield) My Nortons were of either German (or Dutch) descent as far as I can tell. Other surnames tied into my lines include: Blanchard Bowen Carter Coons (or Kunze) Davis DeVoe Emmons (or Emerson) Langlois Lyons (or Lyon or Lynd) Martin Reiffenberger Vosburgh and many, many more! Any of this sound familiar, I'd love to hear from you! Regi ___________________________________________________________________________ REGI MILAN Orem, Utah My genealogy can be viewed on Rootsweb.com's World Connect Project at: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=rmilan "Remember, sometimes you have to reach a bit to grab on to that right branch."

    10/29/2002 11:33:08
    1. [NORTON] Re: JACOB NORTON OF LAWRENCE COUNTY, AL
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Qi3.2ACIB/328.554.788.796.1393.1396.1.1 Message Board Post: Please email me

    10/29/2002 10:20:42
    1. [NORTON] Re: Alabama Nortons Indian Marriage
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Qi3.2ACIB/713.781.785.787.1026.1030.2 Message Board Post: I am unsure but you can write my dad and ask him. He is really into it right now and he will be able to help you. The name does sound familiar however, I have just bought a home and moved to NC and have not had time to keep up on it. My Dad is David Robertson, 5624 Cardiman Street, Milton, FL 32570. I am sure he would be happy to hear from you. I do know I had a great, great, grandmother who was full blooded indian named Elizabeth Martin.

    10/29/2002 09:53:40
    1. [NORTON] Tonbridge area, Kent
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Norton Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Qi3.2ACIB/1785 Message Board Post: Thomas Norton born 1830 in East Peckham, lived in Tonbridge, worked in Yalding. Believed to have married Frances Corke. She died in 1871. Family records say he then married Eliza Summers in 1874, but 1881 census shows him living with an Eliza Hodge. Family records show Thomas's father to be another Thomas b. 1795, d. 1866 and mother Harriett b. 1800, d. 1888. This Thomas's father believed to be James, mother Sarah. Any info on this family to fill in the blanks much appreciated.

    10/29/2002 01:39:55
    1. [NORTON] Re: ernest norton & musa dunevan Heard County
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Qi3.2ACIB/1603.1.1 Message Board Post: Ernest's mother was Liza she lived with them in Hogansville Ga. in 1930. They had 5 daughters, and 4 sons. He had two sisters, Mrs. Clarence Emery of Cartersville and Mrs lula Kimball of Atlanta, I don't know about brothers. His father was J. M. Norton. Maybe this will help you. Faye

    10/28/2002 10:08:28
    1. [NORTON] Re: JACOB NORTON OF LAWRENCE COUNTY, AL
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Qi3.2ACIB/328.554.788.796.1393.1396.1 Message Board Post: My grandfather Asbury. A. Norton was born in Town Creek AL in 1885, his father was Thomas Henry Norton, I believe he had 10 brothers and sisters, I think Walter and Ernest art two of his sibilings. Have you run across any of these names that would assist me?

    10/28/2002 10:31:33
    1. [NORTON] Re: ernest norton & musa dunevan Heard County
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Norton Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Qi3.2ACIB/1603.1 Message Board Post: I am interested in your Ernest Norton, do you know the fathers name or if he had any sibilings? My Gr Grandfather is A.A. Norton and he had a brother Ernest. The dates would just about be right.

    10/28/2002 09:49:53
    1. [NORTON] Re: Alabama Nortons Indian Marriage
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Norton, Lawson, Terry, Crocker Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Qi3.2ACIB/713.781.785.787.1026.1030.1 Message Board Post: Marvin, I am interested in both the obit and the photo - it could well be Catherine Lawson (full-blood indian). I realize some of the dates may differ but as it is so difficult to get info there's still quite a probability. Here’s what I know of this link in my family. Pam Crocker (me) b: in Birmingham, Alabama Father: Modies Eugene Crocker: b: 12/9/1920 in Clanton, Alabama other: Sarah Esther Henderson b: 6/6/1923 in Wedowee, Alabama Married: 10/4/1941 in Roanoke, Alabama Modies’ parents: Father: Lawson Edward Crocker b: 1/17/1898 in Medline, Alabama Mother: Laura Ann Terry b: 11/06/1900 in Perry, Alabama Married: 12/28/1919 in Perry County, Alabama Laura’s parents: Father: Sam P. Terry b: 4/1866 in Alabama Mother: Eliza Ann Norton b: 5/1869 in Alabama Married: 12/13/1894 in Perry County, Alabama Eliza was married to Coleman Logan before Sam Terry Children: Christopher Columbus Logan b: abt 1886 Thomas Henry Logan “Terry” b: 7/1888 James David Terry b: 9/1895 Rosa L. Terry b: 8/1899 Laura Ann Terry b: 11/6/1900 Lillie Terry b: 1903 John Terry b: 1905 Mattie Terry b: 1907 Grant Terry b: 1908 Eliza’s parents: Father: Thomas Norton b: 1812 in North Carolina Mother: Catherine F. Lawson b: 1843 in Sprott, Alabama Married: 3/5/1868 in Hale County, Alabama This is where our research ends. Catherine Lawson was a full-blood Native American (either Creek or Choctaw) --- family tradition indicates that she was Creek (which means most likely she was Upper Creek since the Poarch Band Creek were able to avoid the removal). The census information indicates that Catherine’s parents were born in Georgia (may or may-not be valid). Catherine and Thomas Norton had 3 children: Eliza Ann Norton b: 5/1869 Laura Norton b: abt 1870 Althea Norton b: 6/25/1875 According to family tradition – Catherine Lawson and the 3 girls had to travel to Oklahoma during the Removal. Thomas Norton then followed to Oklahoma and brought them back to Alabama. Supposedly, Catherine’s tribe was from the Beaver Dam, Creek area close to Marion, Alabama. Harvey Edwards is the son of Althea Norton. Apparently Thomas Norton and Catherine Lawson both died while Althea was still young. Althea was raised by Robert Lawson (living in Perry County, Alabama). In the same document where we located the marriage record of Thomas Norton and Catherine Lawson (Marriage Records of Marengo County, Alabama 1818-1860) – there were several other Lawson marriages noted (no way to know if they are related in any way). Malinea Lawson married Jacob Spiedle 12/25/1827 Matilda Lawson married Pleasant Henderson 12/25/1827 Cheborn Lawson provided the marriage bond for the 2 women (His name also appears as Cheborn and Chaboon). As it is such an unusual name, I thought it might indicate the Native American connection to the Lawsons. On 1/29/1833 – Martha Lawson married Samuel A. Cochran (John Lawson provided the bond).

    10/27/2002 01:15:30
    1. [NORTON] Norton and Field
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Norton, Field Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Qi3.2ACIB/1113.2 Message Board Post: Lisa, Do you know where this Norton family lived? Are there other names in the Bible? If so could you let me know what they are? Most of my Nortons are from CO, MO, KS area, But they did originate in NY/CT.

    10/27/2002 12:04:50
    1. [NORTON] Re: ANY NORTONS IN ALABAMA
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Qi3.2ACIB/328.713 Message Board Post: My Gr Grandfather, Asbury A Norton was born in Town Creek Ala 10 Oct 1885. I believe his father was Thomas Henry Norton 1856-1898. I beilieve T.H. Norton had 10 children one being Asbury along with Ernest, Walter and others. Does this fit in your family at all?

    10/27/2002 04:53:14
    1. [NORTON] Re: Alabama Nortons Indian Marriage
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Qi3.2ACIB/713.781.785.787.1026.1030 Message Board Post: I know you posted this almost 2 years ago but I just started looking at my family tree. My Gr Grandfather is Asbury A Norton born in Town Creek AL 10 Oct 1885, his father was Thomas Henry Norton, 1856-1898, had ten children when he was killed. I have a photo of a woman who is Indian and I was told it was a grandmother but have not been able to find a name for her or fit her in, could there be a connection?

    10/27/2002 04:03:08
    1. [NORTON] Re: Norton and Field
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: A.A. Norton Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Qi3.2ACIB/1113.1 Message Board Post: This is a long shot, my Gr Grandfather Asbury A Norton born Oct 10 1885, also brother Ernest, and a brother Walter. Are they listed in your bible?

    10/27/2002 03:28:02
    1. [NORTON] Re: Norton's in (Lawrence & ? Counties) AL
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: A.A. Norton Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Qi3.2ACIB/1719.2 Message Board Post: My Gr Grandfather Asbury A Norton was born in Town Creek AL, Lawrence County, 10 Oct 1885. I believe his father was Thomas Henry Norton born Sep 28 1856 and died Dec 19 1898. I believe his brothers were, Ernest, Claude, Bill, James, and Walter and maybe more. The obit I have on T.H. Norton stated he left 10 children and a wife. Do you have any information that could help me, I am really at a dead end after this. Thanks Marvin Tucker

    10/27/2002 02:21:47
    1. [NORTON] Calvin Norton Mirred Sally Mills and May Weaver WI
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Norton, Mills, and Weaver Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Qi3.2ACIB/1784 Message Board Post: Calvin b 13 Apr 1866 d 3 Jul 1928 Shawano, WI M 14 Jan 1891 to Sally Ann Mills b 1855 WI d 1 Dec 1901 Shawano, WI. They had two children William Edward m Jessie Lake and Pearl Edith Polly m William Hacker. Them Calvin Married Alice May Weaver b 2 May 1878 Salem, MI d 1 Mar 1950. They had two children Calvin Art and Clara.

    10/26/2002 04:23:28
    1. [NORTON] Re: THOMAS NORTON
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Qi3.2ACIB/1617.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: My husband's Norton line is from TN,so your obit probably wouldn't do me any good,thanks for mentioning it though.

    10/26/2002 10:13:35
    1. [NORTON] Memoirs of Thomas Patrick Norton II (1920- )
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Norton Classification: Biography Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Qi3.2ACIB/1783 Message Board Post: Memoirs of Thomas Patrick Norton prepared on February 02, 1998, Part 1: At the request of my youngest son, Richard Arthur Norton, I am attempting to recall a few of my earliest memories for inclusion in our family genealogy record which Richard is researching. It is said that strong memories can many times be associated with traumatic events and in my case my earliest has to do with intense pain. When I was about five years old I developed an ear infection which resulted in mastoiditis and I can remember when the specialist who was recommended by our family doctor came to our home at 603 Garfield Avenue in Jersey City, New Jersey to examine me, and my mother's tearful reaction when he told her that I would have to be hospitalized and operated on to drain the abscessed ear. I can still remember fighting the ether mask and how sick to my stomach I was when I finally awoke and also how heavy my head felt when I tried to get up. The next time I was hospitalized and given ether, I was a little older and wiser and did breathe slowly and deeply as I was told and as a result did not suffer the same after effects. This was for a minor overnight stay to remove my tonsils and adenoids when I was about eight years old. I was the first born and may have been a little premature because I weighed only about five pounds. My brothers and my sister were bigger and were in the seven to eight pound range at birth. I only mention this because I seemed to be the one who was to get all the childhood diseases and one of the worst was a very bad case of scarlet fever. This was when I was about ten and I was kept under quarantine at home. I was isolated in a small room which had to be kept dark to protect my eyes and the doorway was covered by a sheet dampened by a solution of Lysol. The effect of the fever caused a mild heart murmur and as I continued to grow up, a gradual lessening of flexibility in my joints. I remember this very well because in junior high school we had to take physical education under the supervision of a special teacher in a gymnasium (in elementary school we just went outside to play games while the teachers watched) and the special teacher, a Mr. Schenkle, a grossly overweight, loud-mouthed, profane, bully was, to me, a sorry example to set as a result of physical education. Again, intense pain is the reason this is burned into my memory because when we were doing our exercises and were required to reach down and touch our toes, I could not get much further than my knees and Mr. Schenkle who loved to vocally excoriate "slackers" as he called the non-achievers, decided to help me by coming up behind me and pushing my back down. This just about finished me as he strained not only my back, but my hamstrings as well. I was no! t able to go to school for quite a while and never took physical education again. The subject is required under New Jersey state law but I was able to avoid it by having my doctor petition the school authorities to excuse me due to my heart murmur. I developed mastoiditis in my other ear when I was twelve years old but it was caught earlier and the operation was merely to puncture the eardrum to drain out the infection. It was performed at home by the same specialist, a Doctor Morris Pyle who had his office at Exchange Place in Jersey City. My most serious medical problem was a burst appendix which resulted in gangrene and peritonitis and almost cost me my life. I remember the pain. I had the attack in high school when I was just sixteen and the nurse sent me home. We had no telephone then and really never had an automobile (my father had won a car in a church raffle some years before but he was such a poor driver that my mother had him sell it. Jersey city was not a good place to have a car anyway because there was no place to garage the car or to park it.) I lived about two miles from the high school and started to walk home. When I was one block away from my house my appendix must have burst because I remember trying to hold myself upright by grabbing the pole that held the sign for Stegman Street and ocean avenue but I gradually slipped down to my knees and then blacked out. I do not know who got me home or how my mother got word to the doctor but it took time before he could get to me and make t! he arrangements to get me to the hospital. It was an emergency operation which was performed about midnight and the delay undoubtedly led to the serious nature of the infection. I was in the hospital for a month and was given the last rites of the church. I was kept under sedation by morphine not only for the pain but also to keep me from writhing and inadvertently pulling out the tubes which were feeding me but also draining the infection. I lost twenty five pounds and came out as a living skeleton. Our family doctor, George Brick (the one who sent me to Dr. Pyle, the specialist and who arranged for me to be sent to the St. Francis hospital for the appendectomy) gave my father a recipe for a tonic to help me gain back some of the weight I had lost. It was like an eggnog with milk and cinnamon but was fortified with sherry wine. My dad dutifully made this for me every day and at the same time made one for himself. It gradually helped me to gain back some of the lost ! weight but unfortunately caused him to gain weight he did not need. My general health improved considerably after the appendix operation and recovery and to compensate for the missing physical education at school I took up dynamic tension, a form of non-equipment exercise. I always like to run and so kept in good shape. When I graduated from high school at sixteen I was, in a way, still a kid. I was small and shy but I got a full time job as a clerk in our local eagle grocery store. It was a two man store-- the manager and me. The pay was five dollars a week for sixty hours of work but I did such a good job that the manager, an old man named Bill Miller who suffered from ulcers, gave me an extra fifty cents out of his own pocket because I did most of the work and let him take it easy if possible. The corner grocery store in 1937 was a far cry from the supermarkets of today. As the clerk of the two man staff I had to sweep the sidewalk every morning, put up or down the awnings as the weather dictated, wash the display windows once a week and when the grocery delivery was made the truckmen would just put the barrels and boxes on the sidewalk, the manager would confirm the delivery, sign for it and I would have to move it all inside to the back storeroom. Also much of the items such as flour, sugar, butter, milk, eggs, potatoes, etc. had to be broken down into smaller amounts such as pounds, dozens, quarts, etc. This was my job also. I had to restock the shelves by carefully removing the old items, wiping the shelf and then replacing the old items in front of the newer ones. When the store was busy I also would wait on customers by physically moving about the store to bring whatever they wanted to the counter, wrapping it up and also delivering it to their home if ! that was requested. That was usually worth a ten cent tip! There were no scanners then so you had to know all the prices and you had to add up the total (twice as a matter of fact for the required confirmation). After about a year I left Mr. Miller to work as an experienced clerk for the National Grocery Company at a salary of eight dollars a week. Grocery stores then were open six days a week from 8 am until 6 Monday through Thursday and from 8 a.m. until 9 p.m. on Friday and Saturday. When I was eighteen I got a job with the Eagle Printing Ink Company as a shipping clerk on the recommendation of Pete Van Deusen who used to live next door to us on Garfield Avenue. Pete was seven years older than me and had the same job with Mr. Miller when he was just out of high school. He was a quality control inspector at the ink plant and was the manager of the company softball team in the jersey city industrial league. He wanted me to play on the company team and I agreed to do it. I had played for him once before in the Sunday softball league in Bayside Park in Jersey City. About this time in my life I became a member of the Jersey City Lancers a local neighborhood sports club made up of young men for fun more than anything else. It was encouraged by the grownups because we played at the local parks or schools and generally kept out of trouble. Besides working at the ink plant and playing on their softball team in the summer, I also played softball and baseball for the lancers on Sunday in the summer and football in the fall and winter. I played football for the lancers on Thanksgiving day in 1939 and was hurt so that I could not go to work the next day at the ink company. Since we did not have a telephone, there was no way that I could report my reason for being absent and when I went to work on the following Monday I found out that I was fired. I went to the state unemployment office to see if I could register for benefits. (I was not sure if my circumstances were covered) and instead they sent me on an interview for a job with the Mutual Chemical Company of America a large bulk processing and refining company in Jersey City. They were looking to hire a traffic clerk. I had never worked as a traffic clerk before or even knew what one did but I had observed how the shipping room operated at the ink company and told them I was willing to learn and they hired me for fifteen dollars for a five and a half day, forty-four hour week. The traffic clerk job was to keep the necessary records of all of the incoming raw materials and the outgoing finished products. It involved both railroad and trucking and domestic and overseas shipments. I worked under the traffic manager who was also the office manager and paymaster and he encouraged me to go with him to the local traffic club when they had educational seminars in order to broaden my knowledge. When our country went to war against the axis in December, 1941 I felt particularly obliged to contribute because one of my friends from the lancers was killed in the attack on Pearl Harbor. He had joined the Navy only about six months before. I told them at the chemical company that I was going to enter the service and they said my job would be there when I returned. When I went to the navy recruiting office in New York City in early 1942 to enlist, I failed the physical because I was underweight, had bad hearing and the heart murmur. They suggested that I try to gain eight pounds to bring me up to their standard for my height and build to ensure that I had no chronic health problem which was keeping my weight so low and to be re-tested. It took me several months to gain the weight (I had to eat a lot of bananas and cream plus a regular high calorie diet) and when I was re-tested I was sent to the officer in charge, a full navy captain, who explained that he would have to make a recommendation because my hearing and heart were not 100%. He said the problems were slight but enough to keep me out under ordinary circumstances but this was wartime and if I still wanted to join the navy he would approve a limited duty enlistment which would mean I could not serve in the submarine service or in the naval flight service. I agreed and was sent to the U.S. Naval training station in Newport, Rhode Island for boot camp then to Bedford Springs, Pennsylvania for radio school and then to Noroton Heights, Connecticut for special advanced communication school. I was finally assigned to the United States Navy armed guard service facility at the Brooklyn Naval Armory in late November of 1942. The armed guard service of the navy provided gunners and communication personnel for allied shipping which moved in convoys under naval protection against German planes and submarines. My first ship, the James Iradell, was in the invasion of Casablanca in December, 1942 and in the invasion of Sicily in 1943. During my almost three years of sea duty I was on many ships and went to Cuba, Trinidad, Jamaica, England, Ireland, Scotland, France and Algeria as well. To some of these countries many times. I was discharged from the Navy at the Lido Beach Separation Center in Long Island in late 1945. Source: Thomas Patrick Norton II (1920- ), Written Testimony, February 02, 1998

    10/25/2002 05:14:09
    1. [NORTON] Re: THOMAS NORTON
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Qi3.2ACIB/1617.1.2.2.1 Message Board Post: Does the obit list the children by name? If not, it will not help me.

    10/25/2002 05:25:30