Michael: Further to Gen's message, I have checked my old 1992 microfiche edition of the IGI but cannot find the John Falcus etc baptism on it, even though it does include those from Stamfordham. The only explanation I can think of is that either you are well out with your estiiate of either the date or else of the likely parish (Stamfordham). Perhaps John was baptised in a non-C of E church which, in his day, would have to mean a Presyterian one. The good news, as they say, is that there was an old Presbyterian church in Stamfordham and it was founded by 1662, so was there when John was baptised. However, the bad news is that the surviving register go back only to 1754, which is much too late to help you. When searching the IGI I found that while some variations on the spelling were included under "Faucus", others were under "Fox" (!) and among those were "Fawkes". I know that there is at least one Fawkes family still in existence on Tyneside and it was only later that I made the connection that perhaps your ancestor had been a Fawkes, ie he and his family had pronounced their surname that way, and if so, then the might have been of the same religious persuasion as the famous/notorious Guy Fawkes - who was, of course, a Roman Catholic ! In Stamfordham parish there was an early Catholic church at Cheeseburn Grange. That was a large house, where the owner, of a well-known Northumbrian Catholic family, had a private Catholic chapel and maintained a priest, even in the days when to do so might mean instant arrest and eventual death. You will uinderstand that keeping paper records was not a good idea in those circumstances, and the official registers of what became Cheeseburn Grange Catholic church begin only in 1775. So, whether he was from a Presbyterian or a Roman Catholic family, it seems likely that for one reason or another, either his baptism was not recorded or, if it was, then the register has not survived. I think, before going any further with this one, it is worthwhile asking - What was it that made you expect to find his baptism in Stamfordham anyway? I hope you have allowed for the extent to which people moved around at that time - even if he lived in Stamfordham in later life, that is no evidence at all that he was born there. Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: gen listlass <[email protected]> To: northumbria <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 15:34 Subject: Re: [NMB] Stamfordham Parish Records Hello Michael I checked the transcripts for the Stamfordham registers (Microfilm M1123) at Woodhorn this morning and there are no entries for a John Fawcus/Falcus etc baptism in the PR John Fawcus/etc to an Ann marriage in the PR There are plenty with this surname BUT none of the ones you seek. Gen in NBL England > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 07:37:53 +0000 > Subject: Re: [NMB] Stamfordham Parish Records > > Thanks Geoff > Much appreciated, will try some of those options. > > I agree with your sentiments regarding your tea! > > Mike > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Geoff Nicholson > Sent: 19 February 2013 17:55 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NMB] Stamfordham Parish Records > > > Mike: > > Further to my last message, it has bene pointed out to me that the NDFHS has the information from those registers on its database. Also, many of the Wood transcripts were published on fiche by Northfiche some time ago. They used to be available (by post!) from Woodhorn, and perhaps still are. > > However, while I was strictly speaking correct in saying that the Wood transctripts cover the period you mention, I should qualify that by saying that, according to the National Index of Parish Registers, those for Stamfordham survive only from 1662-1695 and from 1722 onwards. That might affect your chances of finding the marriage you seek. However, you could be helped by the availability of Boyd's Marriage Index (information also on the old microfiche IGI and no doubt also nowadays on the LDS web site). If you still can't trace it and still think it could have been at Stamfordham 1696-1721 then you could always look at the microfiche index to Durham Diocese Marriage Bonds, just in case it was one of the 10% (max!) or so that were by Licence. > > Sorry for the brevity of my last message - caused by my tea being in danger of getting cold, and we can't have that! > > Geoff Nicholson > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Geoff Nicholson <[email protected]> > To: northumbria <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 17:07 > Subject: Re: [NMB] Stamfordham Parish Records > > > > Mike: > > The period you mention is covered by the H M Wood transcripts in Newcastle > Central Library. Perhaps that is nearer to you than is Woodhorn. > > Geoff Nicholson > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fairless, Michael <[email protected]> > To: northumbria <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:11 > Subject: [NMB] Stamfordham Parish Records > > > I don't know if anyone has access to Stamfordham Parish Records which might save > > me a trip to Woodhorn > > But I am looking for the baptism of a John Fawcus/Falcus/Faucus (etc !) in about > > 1673 to parents Robert and Barbara/Barbry and also the marriage of the said John > > (to Ann) probably about 21 years later (?) > > Many thanks for any help > > Mike Fairless > .. > > .. > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Geoff Very good of you Falcus/Fawcus/Faucus/Falkous it is all very much the the same! I have documents referred to as Fawcus but signed Falcus! But I can get back on Falcus to nearly 1700 in the Woodhorn/Bedlington/Longframlington area I was chasing up the Warkworth Falcus/Fawcus and seeing how they fit in when I found a deposition from William Straker of Warkworth setting out his pedigree from John Fawcus of Warkworth, carpenter. Dated 4th March 1735/6. "John Fawcus of Warkworth, carpenter, aged 62 years .....This deponent can the better depose as to his knowledge of the said George [Straker] for that he marryed this deponent's mother to his second wife". A small family tree shows that "George Straker = 2nd ... mother of John Fawcus of Warkworth, carpenter". Note that the name of the mother is not quoted but a Georgius Straker (Catholic?) married Barbara Faucas 15.7.1686 in Ponteland. "Barbara" was not a common name and the only marriage I can find for a "Barbara" to a Falcus/Fawcus prior to 1686 would be Robert Facus and Barbry Stodert 26.6.1666 Stamfordham and it would appear that there is the death of Robert Facus 19.5.1685 of Kirkly, which would leave his widow Barbara free to remarry after 1685. It would appear that Robert Facus had at least the following children all baptised in Stamfordham Issabelle 31.03.1667 Roger 04.07.1669 Elizabeth daughter of Robert, buried 14.1.1672 Thomas 14.09.1673 I though perhaps there might be one missing! Thanks Mike Fairless -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Geoff Nicholson Sent: 20 February 2013 16:23 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NMB] Stamfordham Parish Records Michael: Further to Gen's message, I have checked my old 1992 microfiche edition of the IGI but cannot find the John Falcus etc baptism on it, even though it does include those from Stamfordham. The only explanation I can think of is that either you are well out with your estiiate of either the date or else of the likely parish (Stamfordham). Perhaps John was baptised in a non-C of E church which, in his day, would have to mean a Presyterian one. The good news, as they say, is that there was an old Presbyterian church in Stamfordham and it was founded by 1662, so was there when John was baptised. However, the bad news is that the surviving register go back only to 1754, which is much too late to help you. When searching the IGI I found that while some variations on the spelling were included under "Faucus", others were under "Fox" (!) and among those were "Fawkes". I know that there is at least one Fawkes family still in existence on Tyneside and it was only later that I made the connection that perhaps your ancestor had been a Fawkes, ie he and his family had pronounced their surname that way, and if so, then the might have been of the same religious persuasion as the famous/notorious Guy Fawkes - who was, of course, a Roman Catholic ! In Stamfordham parish there was an early Catholic church at Cheeseburn Grange. That was a large house, where the owner, of a well-known Northumbrian Catholic family, had a private Catholic chapel and maintained a priest, even in the days when to do so might mean instant arrest and eventual death. You will uinderstand that keeping paper records was not a good idea in those circumstances, and the official registers of what became Cheese! burn Grange Catholic church begin only in 1775. So, whether he was from a Presbyterian or a Roman Catholic family, it seems likely that for one reason or another, either his baptism was not recorded or, if it was, then the register has not survived. I think, before going any further with this one, it is worthwhile asking - What was it that made you expect to find his baptism in Stamfordham anyway? I hope you have allowed for the extent to which people moved around at that time - even if he lived in Stamfordham in later life, that is no evidence at all that he was born there. Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: gen listlass <[email protected]> To: northumbria <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 15:34 Subject: Re: [NMB] Stamfordham Parish Records Hello Michael I checked the transcripts for the Stamfordham registers (Microfilm M1123) at Woodhorn this morning and there are no entries for a John Fawcus/Falcus etc baptism in the PR John Fawcus/etc to an Ann marriage in the PR There are plenty with this surname BUT none of the ones you seek. Gen in NBL England > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Geoff Nicholson > Sent: 19 February 2013 17:55 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NMB] Stamfordham Parish Records > > > Mike: > > Further to my last message, it has bene pointed out to me that the NDFHS has the information from those registers on its database. Also, many of the Wood transcripts were published on fiche by Northfiche some time ago. They used to be available (by post!) from Woodhorn, and perhaps still are. > > However, while I was strictly speaking correct in saying that the Wood transctripts cover the period you mention, I should qualify that by saying that, according to the National Index of Parish Registers, those for Stamfordham survive only from 1662-1695 and from 1722 onwards. That might affect your chances of finding the marriage you seek. However, you could be helped by the availability of Boyd's Marriage Index (information also on the old microfiche IGI and no doubt also nowadays on the LDS web site). If you still can't trace it and still think it could have been at Stamfordham 1696-1721 then you could always look at the microfiche index to Durham Diocese Marriage Bonds, just in case it was one of the 10% (max!) or so that were by Licence. > > Sorry for the brevity of my last message - caused by my tea being in danger of getting cold, and we can't have that! > > Geoff Nicholson > >

Hi Gen Many thanks for your time and trouble. Looks like I have to search elsewhere. Maybe Ponteland Thank you Mike Fairless -----Original Message----- From: gen listlass <[email protected]> To: northumbria <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 15:34 Subject: Re: [NMB] Stamfordham Parish Records Hello Michael I checked the transcripts for the Stamfordham registers (Microfilm M1123) at Woodhorn this morning and there are no entries for a John Fawcus/Falcus etc baptism in the PR John Fawcus/etc to an Ann marriage in the PR There are plenty with this surname BUT none of the ones you seek. Gen in NBL England > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 07:37:53 +0000 > Subject: Re: [NMB] Stamfordham Parish Records > > Thanks Geoff > Much appreciated, will try some of those options. > > I agree with your sentiments regarding your tea! > > Mike > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Geoff Nicholson > Sent: 19 February 2013 17:55 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NMB] Stamfordham Parish Records > > > Mike: > > Further to my last message, it has bene pointed out to me that the NDFHS has the information from those registers on its database. Also, many of the Wood transcripts were published on fiche by Northfiche some time ago. They used to be available (by post!) from Woodhorn, and perhaps still are. > > However, while I was strictly speaking correct in saying that the Wood transctripts cover the period you mention, I should qualify that by saying that, according to the National Index of Parish Registers, those for Stamfordham survive only from 1662-1695 and from 1722 onwards. That might affect your chances of finding the marriage you seek. However, you could be helped by the availability of Boyd's Marriage Index (information also on the old microfiche IGI and no doubt also nowadays on the LDS web site). If you still can't trace it and still think it could have been at Stamfordham 1696-1721 then you could always look at the microfiche index to Durham Diocese Marriage Bonds, just in case it was one of the 10% (max!) or so that were by Licence. > > Sorry for the brevity of my last message - caused by my tea being in danger of getting cold, and we can't have that! > > Geoff Nicholson > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Geoff Nicholson <[email protected]> > To: northumbria <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 17:07 > Subject: Re: [NMB] Stamfordham Parish Records > > > > Mike: > > The period you mention is covered by the H M Wood transcripts in Newcastle > Central Library. Perhaps that is nearer to you than is Woodhorn. > > Geoff Nicholson > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fairless, Michael <[email protected]> > To: northumbria <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:11 > Subject: [NMB] Stamfordham Parish Records > > > I don't know if anyone has access to Stamfordham Parish Records which might save > > me a trip to Woodhorn > > But I am looking for the baptism of a John Fawcus/Falcus/Faucus (etc !) in about > > 1673 to parents Robert and Barbara/Barbry and also the marriage of the said John > > (to Ann) probably about 21 years later (?) > > Many thanks for any help > > Mike Fairless > .. > > .. > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message