Hello Listers I am chasing a family of Colquhoun and variously Colquhound who seem to have lived in Winlaton from the late 1700s. William Colquhoun and his wife Elizabeth Oliver were married in Gateshead in June 1803 and had two children Rebecca and William baptised in Ryton in 1803 and 1805 but they say that they were born Winlaton in the censuses. I cannot find baptisms for William and Elizabeth nor the marriage of daughter Rebecca who had an illegitimate child Sarah baptised in Ryton in 1827 but was recorded as living in Winlaton. Most of the later events of this family are in Gateshead, where Sarah, after having an illegitimate son John, marries firstly Michael Gardner and later James Stewart having 9 children by both husbands before she died in Gateshead in 1891. Is anyone searching for Colquhouns and variants around Winlaton, Ryton and Gateshead? Many thanks Jill Forster

There were baptisms in the Ryton Holy Cross but as Winlaton Mill and adjacent areas but would still be in the Ryton parish registers. I am not sure if Winlaton Mill was a satellite chapel but could have been. Others on the board would know this. Ryton Holy Cross baptisms: Rebecca and William both baptised 25 Dec 1805, Rebecca born 18 Sep 1803, William born 9 Nov 1805, 1st daur and 1st son of William Colquhoun of Winlaton, smith, native of this parish, by his wife Isabel Oliver, native of this parish. Winlaton St. Paul was not a parish on its own until 1828. Ryton covered a large area that split off into smaller parishes after 1828. Janis

"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: >There were baptisms in the Ryton Holy Cross but as Winlaton Mill and >adjacent areas but would still be in the Ryton parish registers. I am >not sure if Winlaton Mill was a satellite chapel but could have been. >Others on the board would know this. Janis The only chapel at Winlaton Mill was Primitive Methodist. It opened in 1869 on the east side of the Shotley Bridge Turnpike (now A694) about 100 yards north of the Golden Lion pub. It was of white brick and stone, and could seat 125. It closed in 1983 and was converted into a dwelling house. Brian -- Brian Pears (Joint List Admin - NORTHUMBRIA Mailing List)

Brian: As far as the late 19th and the 20th century are concerned, you are quite right. However, as far back as the 16th century, Rev Francis Bunny mentions holding Holy Communion services at Winlaton Mill during Easter Week (se the article about Ryton Tithe Records in one of the Archaeologia Aeliana Series ?2 books. Also, in the early 19th century, during the Barrington period, 1798-1812 (at least during those years; possibly for a longer time), baptisms were taking place there, as there are separate lists for "baptisms at Winlaton Mill" in Ryton parish baptism register. However, the two baptisms I quoted in my earlier contribution to this thread, although during that period, were in the main list and hence will have taken place in Ryton parish church and not at Winlaton Mill. That makes it more likely that the Colquhouns lived in Winlaton itself and not in Winlaton Mill. Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: Brian Pears <[email protected]> To: northumbria <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 9:38 Subject: Re: [NMB] COLQUHOUN of Winlaton, Ryton, Gateshead "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: >There were baptisms in the Ryton Holy Cross but as Winlaton Mill and >adjacent areas but would still be in the Ryton parish registers. I am >not sure if Winlaton Mill was a satellite chapel but could have been. >Others on the board would know this. Janis The only chapel at Winlaton Mill was Primitive Methodist. It opened in 1869 on the east side of the Shotley Bridge Turnpike (now A694) about 100 yards north of the Golden Lion pub. It was of white brick and stone, and could seat 125. It closed in 1983 and was converted into a dwelling house. Brian -- Brian Pears (Joint List Admin - NORTHUMBRIA Mailing List) .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Jill,   My HALL family are related to Colquhoun's of Gateshead, maybe not your Colquhouns though   I have Ann Carter marrying William Colquhoun in Newcastle 1864.  Their children Henry and Isaac were born in Gateshead in 1869 and 1865.  Henry then married my ggrandmothers's sister Elizabeth Wilson in Gateshead 1892.   I would be interested if any of these names and dates link in with your family.   I haven't delved further into the Colquhoun family as yet as I am still digging into the HALL side of my family.   Regards Yvonne ________________________________ From: Jill Forster <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2013, 0:16 Subject: [NMB] COLQUHOUN of Winlaton, Ryton, Gateshead Hello Listers I am chasing a family of Colquhoun and variously Colquhound who seem to have lived in Winlaton from the late 1700s. William Colquhoun and his wife Elizabeth Oliver were married in Gateshead in June 1803 and had two children Rebecca and William baptised in Ryton in 1803 and 1805 but they say that they were born Winlaton in the censuses. I cannot find baptisms for William and Elizabeth nor the marriage of daughter Rebecca who had an illegitimate child Sarah baptised in Ryton in 1827 but was recorded as living in Winlaton. Most of the later events of this family are in Gateshead, where Sarah, after having an illegitimate son John, marries firstly Michael Gardner and later James Stewart having 9 children by both husbands before she died in Gateshead in 1891. Is anyone searching for Colquhouns and variants around Winlaton, Ryton and Gateshead? Many thanks Jill Forster .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jill: You haven't been looking in the right place for full details of those baptisms! In Ryton parish registers (I use a microfiche of the reliable H M Wood transcripts up to 1812, available for purchase from Northfiche via Northumberland Record Office at Woodhorn), I found these two consecutive entries (I shall expand Wood's abbreviations): 1806 Dec 25 Colquhoun, Rebecca (b Sep 18, 1803), 1st daughter of William Colquhoun of Winlaton, smith, native of this parish, by his wife Isabel Oliver, native of this parish 1806 Dec 25 Colquhoun, William (b Nov 9), 1st son of the same. At the time, Winlaton was part of the parish of Ryton (Holy Cross). It is not unusual to find someone living at Winlaton being called a smith, as he was almost certainly an employee of what had been the Crowley Iron Works (by then Crowley Millington & Co). That was a very remarkable organisation, worthy of more study, written up in detail in many places and the subject of a fascinating full-length hardback book by Prof Flinn of Edinburgh University c1961, called "Men of Iron: the Crowleys in the Early Iron Industry". Briefly, Crowleys bought in bulk iron, as bars and sheets, and their workmen then worked on it, almost as a "cottage industry" to make it into all sorts of iron goods. At Winlaton they specialised in small items: at Winlaton Mill it was edge tools (and clandestine experiments in early steel-making) and at Swalwell it was heavy goods (ships' anchors, chains for mooring ships, etc). At Winlaton they made small chains (suitable for shackling slaves!), implements for the plantations (hoes, rakes, spades, shovels, etc) and domestic items (patten-rings to raise shoes above the dirt on the streets, locks, bolts, nails, etc). Hawks' iron works in Gateshead became a major rival to Crowleys, and that might be the reason for your family's Gateshead connections. In William and Isabel's day, Crowleys were going flat out and doing very well indeed out of the Napoleonic Wars, as they had a lucrative exclusive contract from the Admiralty to provide all the iron work for Royal Navy Ships of the Line, as well as supplying their usual goods to the ever-expanding colonies. They were to suffer a great reverse in 1815 when the Napoleonic Wars ended and they were caught up in the inevitable post-war depression. You will notice that both William and his wife, Isabel, were "natives of this parish" - ie they had been born there. That is an excellent clue, only given between 1798 and 1812. It may not be true, of course, but it usually is. Rebecca Colquhoun married James Wears at Winlaton on 19 May 1833. That was only about the ninth wedding to take place in Winlaton St Paul's church. I have no more detail of this wedding but the parish registers (try the on-line BTs) should tell you whether it was by licence or after the calling of Banns, and they may (though not necessarily) give a little more detail. You should be able to see whether the parties signed their names or made a mark (usually a cross), and who the witnesses were, as well as who the clergyman was. They will not tell you anything about the parentage of either party. Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: Jill Forster <[email protected]> To: northumbria <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 0:21 Subject: [NMB] COLQUHOUN of Winlaton, Ryton, Gateshead Hello Listers I am chasing a family of Colquhoun and variously Colquhound who seem to have lived in Winlaton from the late 1700s. William Colquhoun and his wife Elizabeth Oliver were married in Gateshead in June 1803 and had two children Rebecca and William baptised in Ryton in 1803 and 1805 but they say that they were born Winlaton in the censuses. I cannot find baptisms for William and Elizabeth nor the marriage of daughter Rebecca who had an illegitimate child Sarah baptised in Ryton in 1827 but was recorded as living in Winlaton. Most of the later events of this family are in Gateshead, where Sarah, after having an illegitimate son John, marries firstly Michael Gardner and later James Stewart having 9 children by both husbands before she died in Gateshead in 1891. Is anyone searching for Colquhouns and variants around Winlaton, Ryton and Gateshead? Many thanks Jill Forster .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message