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    1. Re: [NMB] Deaths at Sea - No Body but Registered
    2. Jenny De Angelis
    3. It might be that your contact, the Ex Registrar, is thinking about Deaths at sea not being registered with the usual District Registrar. Whereas the deaths I am talking about were registered with the Registrar or Shipping & Seamen, not the District Registrar, my ancestors death was registered with the Registrar of Shipping & Seamen in Hartlepool & not with the District Registrar there. I imagine that the Registrar of Shipping & Seamen would send copies to the GRO direct, by-passing the District Registrar altogether, i.e not informing the Dist. Reg. that an event at sea had been recorded by the Reg., of Shipping & Seamen. If this is the case then the District Registrar would be ignorant of such a death having been registered. Perhaps your contact doesn't realise this was another side of the Registration system. My understanding is that so long as there was a witness left to register a death at sea it had to be registered once the ship reached land where there was a Registrar of Shipping & Seamen or a British Consul or else once the ship returned to her home port. Though such events were not always recorded by the masters of vessels. If a ship was lost with all hands then of course there were no witnesses left to register the deaths of those lost. I suppose the only way of finding out who was on board a ship that was lost at sea would be to look for a crew list for that vessel for that particular voyage, not an easy thing to find, you need the ship's official registration number to find crew lists as a general rule. As I understand it, all BMDs at sea were/are meant to be registered with the "registrar of shipping & Seamen" and not with the district registrar. This is why there is a separate GRO index for Overseas events. regards Jenny DeAngelis Nivard Wrote:- <<Its a subject that interests me and raises its head every now and then But just when I think I have it taped something else pops up All the Acts I have read speak of deaths at sea, not where a person goes overboard or is otherwise lost Other references to deaths in absentia speak specifically that if there was no body recovered there would not be a death certificate which is what my ex registrar contact states as does the GRO themselves as I asked them some time ago I suspect its a matter of terminology>>

    03/14/2013 05:10:00