Hi, I know that this is a log shot but I thought I'd post in case anyone knows anything further about my 2 of my ancestors who were both born out of wedlock. They are a mother and son and of course this leaves quite a gap in my tree..They were Mary Jane Kilburn who was born on the 14th October 1835 at Fir Tree near Witton le Wear. She was baptised at Witton le Wear but no father was alleged.Her mother was Elizabeth Kilburn daughter of John Kilburn and Hannah Gibbon. Mary Jane Kilburn was living at Fir Tree in 1841 with her grandmother. In 1851 she was living at Greensides Farm near Trimdon with her mother Elizabeth Kilburn who had married John Scurr in 1847. Mary Jane is described as a servant in the census and is not acknowleged as a relative of John Scurr. On the 18th July 1857 Mary Jane Kilburn gave birth to my great grandfather at Greensides Farm. His name was Robert Davison Kilburn. Robert Davison Kilburn's birth does not seem to have been registered but he was baptised at Kelloe 11th Jun 1858 and no father is named.. He and his mother were then living at East Hetton which appears to have been a temporary mining settlement near Kelloe. In 1859 Mary Jane Kilburn gave birth to a second child named Emma at Durham Workhouse and again no father is alleged. By the 1861 census all 3 of them were living in Bishop Auckland Workhouse-I'm guessing that they were moved there as Mary Jane Kilburn was born at Fir Tree and came under BA Union. Mary Jane Kilburn met an Edward Ramsbottom not long after this and they lived together as man and wife until their deaths. Edward Ramsbottom was in Lancashire in 1861 and had married later in that year to a Betty Brierly. He obviously couldn't marry Mary Jane Kilburn so I don't have a marriage certificate to look for any alleged father.. They had 8 children together.Robert Davison Kilburn was married in 1882 but a father is not named on his certificate either.. I have speculated that his father may have been the Robert Davison who was aged 24 in 1851 and was then working ar Kelloe Hall.. This Robert Davison was born at Cassop according to the census but I can't find him for sure in 1841 or 1861.. Any help or suggestions with these folks would be appreciated.Yours John Ayton