Jenny: I was rather surprised you put the distance between Harbottle and Broomhill at only 19 miles. I would have estimated it as about half as far again. However, whatever the actual distance, and whether that is "as the crow flies" or "by road", the more important thing is that Harbottle is well into Coquetdale and a local centre for the sort of faming carried on there - some arable north and east of the village but mainly rough grazing for (now) sheep and (perhaps then) cattle on the slopes of the Cheviot Hills. Broomhill, however, was at the time in question a pleasantly rural place, close to the coast and quite productive agriculturally, situated as it is on the Northumberland coastal plain. Later it became a coal mining district and after that the whole landscape around there was altered by large-scale opencast workings. While one might, at a stretch, consider Broomhill as being in "Warkworth district", I cannot imagine any local person thinking of Harbottle as within "Alnwick district", whatever that may mean. What sort of District? Not the parish - perhaps the Ward of the County (a purely administrative thing and not used these days). Just possibly it might have been within Alnwick Rural District, but that was abolished in 1974. If you mean the modern "districts" into which the country is now divided for local government purposes, they are not really relevant for anything historical. Harbottle and Alnwick are well apart and I would expect Harbottle people to look towards Rothbury, further down the Coquet, as their local town, rather than Alnwick, beyond Rothbury, up over Rimside Moor to cross the A697 Wooler road, then across that and across Alnwick Moor before reaching Alnwick. Certainly Warkworth would not enter into it. Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: Jenny De Angelis via <northumbria@rootsweb.com> To: Alan & Liz Booth <alanbooth170@btinternet.com>; 'Gen ListLass' <genlistlass@hotmail.com>; northumbria <northumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 15:53 Subject: Re: [NMB] ELLIOTT John 1781 HI Alan, Could this be your Ann Elliott with sons John and Edward in the 1851 census? You only mentioned the entries in 1841 and 1861. Ref. HO107 piece 2419 folio 424 page 4 Alnwick Ann Elliott head widow age 65 born Alnwick NBL JOhn ditto son unmarr. aged 24 born Ditto Edward ditto son unmarr. aged19 born ditto I know these ages are out a little bit by what you gave for Ann and John but I just wondered if this family matched what else you might know of the Elliott family perhaps with the addition of Edward to the information you sent tot the list. It might help the rest of us to help you a little further. In the 1861 census entry that I looked at for Ann and JOhn I found that he was born Harbottle which the Genuki pages for NBL tell me comes in the Area of Alnwick and thought this entry 1851 entry above might fit. You say Ann was shown born Broomhill in the 1861 census, Broomhill, according to Genuki page for NBL, shows it comes into the area of Warkworth which is not so very far from the area of Alnwick, from looking at a map of the area. I think they area bout 19 miles apart, Warkworth and Harbottle, according again to the Genuki page for NBL. Hope this helps a little Regards Jenny DeAngelis <<Thank you -- She was born in Broomhill, Northumberland and was ten years younger on the 1841, but shown as 73 in 1861 when living with her son John Elliott born 1832. Await any further suggestions with interest. Alan>> .. Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please introduce yourself at the top of every post. The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message