Marg: My apologies for the premature sending of this message before it was ready. While agreeing with much of what you say, it should be mentioned that some of it seems to be just "popular history" (ie old guesswork, preserved in print), which is often not real history at all. To take things one point at a time - Bywell was probably never a "sizeable town", but rather always a village, albeit once a much larger one then is there now. However, Bywell Hall was built only in 1766, shortly after the marriage between Col Thomas Richard Beaumont of Yorkshire and Diana Wentworth Blackett, which marriage brought Bywell into the Beaumont family, it having previously been a Blackett, and before that a Fenwick (of Wallington) property. The houses on the "Stocksfield side", of which there are and were very few until we come to the village of Stocksfield itself are not part of the village of Bywell, although included within the township of Newton, which lies within one of the two Bywell parishes (probably St Peter's). The ownership of Stocksfield/Newton has always been separate from that of Bywell, and the name of Newton, although no doubt referring to a settlement which was dleiberately made "new" at some time, dates back well before the 1771 flood. The two churches were "supported" by (a) the Diocese of Durham and (b) their respective parishes, that of Bywell St Peters being much the larger parish of the two. There may be some truth in Bywell having been a centre of iron working, especially as, like most of the Tyne valley, it lay "behind the lines" in any Border Wars. The weir on the Tyne, near Bywell Castle, has been speculated by Capt Sterling and others as having possibly a Roman origin andamrking a place at which supplies may have been taken from river barges to be taken to the Wall. In that case it would not be beyond the bounds of possibility that Bywell could have been on a Roman - and thus of importance after Roman times - road, although if so it has never been found! Dere Street passed within a mile or two (Riding Mill) in any case. In mediaeval times, Bywell was the property of the Baliol family, who eventually were installed by Edward I as (briefly) Kings of Scotland. Bywell would have been a useful staging point for them, between their base at Barnard Castle and the Scottish Border/Edinburgh. Geoff Nicholson In a message dated 30/09/2009 15:00:25 GMT Daylight Time, kenmar.white@btopenworld.com writes: Hi Allan Bywell used to be a sizeable town big enough to support the two churches which can be seen today, the Lord of the mannor decided that he did not want a village so near his hall and decided to have some of the houses pulled down, this and the fact that there was a great flood in 1771 when there were ten houses lost and the other tenants were transferred to the Stocksfield side, which was also owned by Mr Beaumont resulted in the very small village we see today, the Market Cross still stands beside the two churches. The old village was divided into several parishes including Newton, and contained handcraftsmen whose trade was in ironwork for the horseman of the county making bits, stirrups, buckles etc, so very much involved with the border reivers. My Charlton family came from the Bywell area and looking at your name of Robson they would probably have been from those parts too, my Charltons migrated slowly down the tyne to North Shields, they also worked in Middlesbrough in the foundries in the mid 1800's. Hope this is of help to you. Marg

Geoff Seems you have a better book than I, just shows you shouldnt believe everything you read, thank you for the extra information I will add that to my family tree information. Marg --- On Wed, 30/9/09, NEGenealogy@aol.com <NEGenealogy@aol.com> wrote: > From: NEGenealogy@aol.com <NEGenealogy@aol.com> > Subject: Re: [NMB] Bywell > To: northumbria@rootsweb.com > Date: Wednesday, 30 September, 2009, 4:00 PM > > > > Marg: > >         My apologies for the  > premature sending of this message before it > was ready. > >         While agreeing with much of > what  you say, it should be mentioned > that some of it seems to be just "popular  history" > (ie old guesswork, > preserved in print), which is often not real history  > at all.  To take things one > point at a time - Bywell was probably never a  > "sizeable town", but rather > always a village, albeit once a much larger one then  > is there now.  However, > Bywell Hall was built only in 1766, shortly after  the > marriage between Col > Thomas Richard Beaumont of Yorkshire and Diana  > Wentworth Blackett, which > marriage brought Bywell into the Beaumont family, it  > having previously been > a Blackett, and before that a Fenwick (of Wallington)  > property.  The houses > on the "Stocksfield side", of which there are and  > were very few until we > come to the village of Stocksfield itself are  not > part of the village of > Bywell, although included within the township of  > Newton, which lies within one > of the two Bywell parishes (probably St  > Peter's).  The ownership of > Stocksfield/Newton has always been separate  from that > of Bywell, and the name of > Newton, although no doubt referring to a  settlement > which was dleiberately > made "new" at some time, dates back well  before the > 1771 flood. > >     The two churches were "supported" by (a) > the  Diocese of Durham and (b) > their respective parishes, that of Bywell St Peters  > being much the larger > parish of the two. > >     There may be some truth in Bywell having been > a  centre of iron > working, especially as, like most of the Tyne valley, it > lay  "behind the lines" in > any Border Wars.  The weir on the Tyne, near > Bywell  Castle, has been > speculated by Capt Sterling and others as having > possibly  a Roman origin > andamrking a place at which supplies may have been taken > from  river barges to be > taken to the Wall.  In that case it would not be > beyond  the bounds of > possibility that Bywell could have been on a Roman - and > thus of  importance after > Roman times - road, although if so it has never been  > found!  Dere Street > passed within a mile or two (Riding Mill) in any  > case.  In mediaeval times, > Bywell was the property of the Baliol family,  who > eventually were installed > by Edward I as (briefly) Kings of > Scotland.   Bywell would have been a > useful staging point for them, between their base at  > Barnard Castle and the > Scottish Border/Edinburgh. > >                 >                 >                 > Geoff  Nicholson > > > > In a message dated 30/09/2009 15:00:25 GMT Daylight > Time,  > kenmar.white@btopenworld.com > writes: > > Hi  Allan > > Bywell used to be a sizeable town big enough to support the > two  churches > which can be seen today, the Lord of the mannor decided > that he did  not want > a village so near his hall and decided to have some of the > houses  pulled > down, this and the fact that there was a great flood in > 1771 when there  were > ten houses lost and the other tenants were transferred to > the Stocksfield  > side, which was also owned by Mr Beaumont resulted in the > very small village > we see today, the Market Cross still stands beside the > two  churches. > > The old village was divided into several parishes > including  Newton, and > contained  handcraftsmen whose trade was in ironwork > for the  horseman of the > county making bits, stirrups, buckles etc, so very > much  involved with the > border reivers.  My Charlton family came from > the  Bywell area and looking at > your name of Robson they would probably have been  > from those parts too, my > Charltons migrated slowly down the tyne to North  > Shields, they also worked > in Middlesbrough in the foundries in the mid  1800's. > > Hope this is of help to  you. > > Marg > > > > > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

We have death of Henrietta GARDNER at 65 Wylam Street Gateshead in . Can anyone tell me what the housing was like at that end of the street? I've seen two photographs online at http://isee.gateshead.gov.uk These are captioned as 1 - 33 Wylam Street. Robin