Many thanks to Brian,Nivard & Heather for their help with my Query about William Harvey. I think I got my facts muddled re the Marriage in 1802, with it being registered as St Nicholas Non Conformist ( I know marriages had to take place in the established church). Eleanor was actually baptised at Ebenezer or Ryton-Woodside Presbyterian. The 1838 marriage cert. ( William to Ann Jordan) gives fathers name as William - chain maker. The 2nd William does not seem to add Masterton to his name until the marriage of his son John Jordan in 1872.at least not on any documents I have. Will check out the references to Falconberg. I did try the e-mail address on the original 1998 query as a long shot, it bounced. Will keep digging thanks again Barbara

I'm trying to get my head round an entry in the 1911 census for a family at Choppington Colliery. George & Georgina are recorded with their 7 children. The census records that they have been married 22 years 9 "total children born alive", 7 "children still living", 4 "children who have died"! In trying to understand this apparent anomaly. Other than an innumerate enumerator could there be a hidden message, perhaps a further 2 children were stillborn? Has anyone come across such a discrepancy elsewhere and was it also an excess of "dead" children? Reference RG14PN31043 RG78PN1776 RD564 SD3 ED10 SN184 John Heckels

I would interpret this "7 children still living, 4 children who died" as a total of 11 children born to this couple, of which 9 were born alive and 2 were stillborn and a further 2 died in infancy or later. Mike Temple, Spain. ----- Original Message ----- From: "JohnH" <orangebouncesrootsweb@googlemail.com> To: <northumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 7:27 AM Subject: [NMB] Innumerate enumerator? > I'm trying to get my head round an entry in the 1911 census for a family > at > Choppington Colliery. George & Georgina are recorded with their 7 > children. > The census records that they have been married 22 years 9 "total children > born alive", 7 "children still living", 4 "children who have died"! > > In trying to understand this apparent anomaly. Other than an innumerate > enumerator could there be a hidden message, perhaps a further 2 children > were stillborn? > > Has anyone come across such a discrepancy elsewhere and was it also an > excess of "dead" children? > > Reference RG14PN31043 RG78PN1776 RD564 SD3 ED10 SN184 > > John Heckels > > > > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at > http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2762 - Release Date: 03/21/10 19:33:00