(Forwarded by Brian Pears at Pennie's request as she has had problems writing to the list) Thanks very much Brian. I think I might assume he died in Lamesley (was a miner) and she took the family back to Low Fell when she was widowed. Might as well risk it now before the prices go up. Whilst I have your attention, would you know how I could determine where Ivy Cottage were in Eighton Banks please, and if there might be pictures. I have been googling, but so far to no avail. Again, Thank you, Pennie