Yes Thomas Kavanagh is my great=grandfather and I believe he was born in Ireland and I know his father was John. The ref for the 1871 census is RG10/4953. I know he wasn't born in Wrexham and I know his brother John wasn't born in Ferry Hill either - I have checked both of those. E. -----Original Message----- From: northumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:northumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joyce Wenner Sent: 07 January 2010 00:50 To: northumbria@rootsweb.com Subject: [NMB] Help needed finding him please. Is This your grandfather Thomas? a.. Try looking on the 1881 British census there is a Thomas Kavanagh born in Jarrow Durham with parents Andrew and Dorothy plus brother Andrew on what looks like # 5 Brancker Street Toxteth Park Lancashire England RG11; Piece: 3647; Folio: 154; Page: 49; GSU roll: 1341874. a.. Another one to look at would be 1871 British Census there is a Thomas Kavanagh who was born in 1861 in Durham living in Yorkshire and living with his parents Daniel and Elizabeth plus siblings Margaret Daniel, Elizabeth, William and Michael RG10; Piece: 4311; Folio: 57; Page: 43; GSU roll: 846979. a.. There is also a Thomas Kavanagh born Mar 1873 - South Shields, Durham, Tyne and Wear plus a Thomas Owen Kavanagh Born May- July 1871 in South Shields Durham, Tyne and Wear that I found on the free BMD index that fits with the 1881 Census I found both of Thomas and Margaret's 2 children's birth and his marriage too so this looks like the best matches. E is trying to find my Great-grand father Thomas Kavanagh his wife, Margaret Mc Coy. On the 1911 census it states that her and her partner, Patrick McIntyre, were married for some 20 years, which I know to be untrue as she was first married to Thomas in 1894 in Lanchester Co Durham, giving birth twice to Catherine in 1896 then to John Thomas in 1898 - he died in 1900 in Newcastle upon Tyne. The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Once thing you have to watch is the spelling is not always correct on censuses- found this out the hard way with my grandparents - 4 different spellings on 4 census reports till finally the correct one for the next 3 years. Brian taught me that and it sure helped. So you may have to broaden your search criteria. Also just becasue it says a person is born in 1897 on a census that is an approx date and can go either up or down 1 year. As for your family how about these........ 1.. Thomas Kavanagh married Margaret McCoy in Lancaster Durham 2nd Quarter 1894 2.. I found your Catherine which matches your dates - that is her date stated as: a.. Catherine Bridget Kavanagh registered 3rd Quarter - Sept 1896 Gateshead,Tyne and Wear County Durham in Volume 10 page 971 Ancestry.co.uk Free BMD index 1837-1915 b.. Also the info that you stated on John Thomas Kavanagh matches what you wrote. 3. I did find a marriage for a Patrick McIntyre and a Margaret Elizabeth Kavanagh 3rd Quarter 1902 Newcastle upon Tyne Northumberland, Tyne and Wear Volume 10b page 263 Ancestry.co.uk on the BMD index 1837-1915 which may be who you are looking for and proves they weren't married 20 years by 1911. Joyce On the 1911 census it states that her and her partner, Patrick McIntyre, were married for some 20 years, which I know to be untrue as she was first married to Thomas in 1894 in Lanchester Co Durham, giving birth twice to Catherine in 1896 then to John Thomas in 1898 - he died in 1900 in Newcastle upon Tyne. The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/