Catherine Bridget Kavanagh was born on August 1st 1896. I agree with the rest of your comments too but my question was is it possible to find Thomas and how would I know it was he if I did find him now? www.eyshasfineart.co.uk "Never Live Life Faster Than Your Guardian Angel Can Fly." -----Original Message----- From: northumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:northumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jenny De Angelis Sent: 07 January 2010 23:21 To: northumbria@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NMB] Help needed finding him please. 1911 census asrequestedby Brian Pears The question about Catherine McIntyre's age in the 1911 census is that the census was taken for the night of 2nd April 1911, it wanted to know who passed mid-night in a house or other place that night. On what day and in which month was Catherine born? By the time of the 1911 census being taken on 2nd April would she have already passed her birthday for 1911 or was her birthday later in 1911 than the 2nd April? If she had passed her birthday in 1911 then she would be aged 15, if as you say she was born in 1896. But if she had not yet had her birthday in 1911 she would be 14 rising 15 later that year. Take another look at the birth certificate and what month is shown for her birth you might find that 14 is the right age in the 1911 census for her at the time that years census was taken. Census ages are very frequently out by a year or two but the date of a birth, if known, has to be taken into account when calculating how old a person should appear on the census and when their birthday fell in census year compared to the date the census was taken that year. It might have made things easier for the family if the neighbours and other people thought that the children were born as McIntyre's rather than being the step children. If the mother had committed bigamy then she could hardly have her children known as Kavanagh while she was known as Mrs. McIntyre, could she? Someone might put two and two together and realise what had happened, especially if that someone knew Mr. Kavanagh they might start to think too much about it all. Bigamy is a crime and would need covering up to keep the law from finding out. If she was passing her children off as the natural children of Patrick McIntyre then she would have to say she had been married for a longer period than was really the case, it would all help to hide the fact that she had committed the crime of bigamy. When Margaret Kavanagh married Patrick McIntyre she could hardly say she was a married woman as she was committing bigamy, she would say she was a widow, even though her first husband was still alive. Regards Jenny DeAngelis Spain. <<> On this census they have my grandmother listed as Catherine McIntyre aged 14 > at school. She was born IN 1896 NOT 1897 as I have her birth cert and > married as Catherine Bridget Cavanagh in Newcastle in 1919 so I know > someone > lied and I know they were not married 20 years because Margaret, nee Mc > Coy, > the mother, was married to my great grandfather in 1894 at the Brooms > Lanchester. >refore broke up the marriage to Kavanagh and I think he would have gone >off and probably remarried as he would only have been 35 years old in >1900>> The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message