I agree, I have looked at other spellings for Kavanagh and given that there is no K in the Irish I have looked at C as well as others possibilities. Catherine's birth cert states she was born on August 1st 1896. Thanks for looking that up for me and confirming what I believed to be the truth, it is always nice to get confirmation. I will keep your e-mail too for future ref. E. -----Original Message----- From: northumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:northumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joyce Wenner Sent: 08 January 2010 00:50 To: northumbria@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NMB] Help needed finding him please. Once thing you have to watch is the spelling is not always correct on censuses- found this out the hard way with my grandparents - 4 different spellings on 4 census reports till finally the correct one for the next 3 years. Brian taught me that and it sure helped. So you may have to broaden your search criteria. Also just becasue it says a person is born in 1897 on a census that is an approx date and can go either up or down 1 year. As for your family how about these........ 1.. Thomas Kavanagh married Margaret McCoy in Lancaster Durham 2nd Quarter 1894 2.. I found your Catherine which matches your dates - that is her date stated as: a.. Catherine Bridget Kavanagh registered 3rd Quarter - Sept 1896 Gateshead,Tyne and Wear County Durham in Volume 10 page 971 Ancestry.co.uk Free BMD index 1837-1915 b.. Also the info that you stated on John Thomas Kavanagh matches what you wrote. 3. I did find a marriage for a Patrick McIntyre and a Margaret Elizabeth Kavanagh 3rd Quarter 1902 Newcastle upon Tyne Northumberland, Tyne and Wear Volume 10b page 263 Ancestry.co.uk on the BMD index 1837-1915 which may be who you are looking for and proves they weren't married 20 years by 1911. Joyce On the 1911 census it states that her and her partner, Patrick McIntyre, were married for some 20 years, which I know to be untrue as she was first married to Thomas in 1894 in Lanchester Co Durham, giving birth twice to Catherine in 1896 then to John Thomas in 1898 - he died in 1900 in Newcastle upon Tyne. The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message