Michael wrote: <What's "pure Geordie"?> Oh Michael, you monkey! I walked right into that one didn't I? A little bit of rapid, incautious thinking and WHAM - straight into a traditional controversy (or rat-trap). Ducking my head well below the parapet I retract it and replace it with - - - I was born in Newcastle and lived my first 18 years there; ventured into Northumberland but hardly ever across the Tyne. My mother had a saying: "I was born in a bottle and I've never seen over the neck!". Creep creep. David