Hi John, I have just checked with Brian re reference numbers regarding the 1861 and 1871 Census. Here they are, 1861 Census ref.RG9/3809 Folio 55 P10 1871 Census ref RG10/5068 Folio 4 P2. Hope this helps, Carole E Atkinson -----Original Message----- From: northumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:northumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carole Atkinson Sent: 21 February 2010 17:26 To: northumbria@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NMB] 1861 and 1871 census of Ryton Hi John, Found the following, Ryton Park 1861 Census. . Roger ROBSON. 45 yrs. Farm Manager Born Otterburn. Elizabeth ROBSON 40 yrs Born Wylam. Rodger 16 or 15 yrs. House Servant. Born Elsdon. Joseph 13 yrs Farm Worker. Born Ryton. Margaret 1o yrs Scholar. Born Ryton. Catherine 6 yrs. Scholar. Born Ryton. Jane 4yrs Born Ryton.. Ryton Park 1871 Census. Roger ROBSON 56yrs Agric Lab. Born Bolam Hills???? Rather illegible. Elizabeth ROBSON 49 yrs Born Elsdon. Jane 14 yrs Born Ryton. Please note that his wife is called Elizabeth on these two Census, Margaret may have had this as another name or Margaret may have died. I have had a quick look but can't find that Roger remarried. Just a possibility. Best of luck. Carole E Atkinson -----Original Message----- From: northumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:northumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of john robson Sent: 21 February 2010 10:58 To: Northumbria; Durham and Northumberland Subject: [NMB] 1861 and 1871 census of Ryton Hi All, can anyone help in my search. My gggranfather Roger Robson born in Elsdon in 1813 lived there until at least 1848 where he was a shepherd, then a farm labourer. He married Margaret Davison born in Shilbottle 1815, in Gateshead in 1839 but took his wife back to Elsdon where his first three children were born, including my ggrandfather John Robson. I found Roger next in the 1851 census in Ryton County Durham working for Mr Joseph Lamb, a Scottish coal owner at Ryton Hall, Roger is now a husbandman. Ggrandfather John Robson eventually became a coachman for Mr Lamb and his life is traceable until his death in 1891(just before the census). I have lately fond the marriage certificate of his daughter Margaret, born about 1854 in Ryton, to Thomas Vallance in 1878 in Newcastle in which her father is Rodger Robson "land steward" and not noted as being deceased. Assuming that he was still alive and still working for Mr Lamb he should have been visible in the census's of 1861 and 1871 but I just can't find him. Have some details of the census's of those years in Ryton been lost or destroyed? Roger must have been living very close to John during that time, or does anyone have access to this information? John Robson (for some reason the message was missing from my prevoius emails) The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Carole, thanks for your reply, I don't think this is my Roger but I will certainly have to investigate further. My Roger worked for Mr Joseph Lamb of Ryton Hall and I see there is now a Ryton Park hotel in Ryton, I need to find out all I can about these places. Are they one and the same? John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carole Atkinson" <carole@auckland.fsnet.co.uk> To: <northumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [NMB] 1861 and 1871 census of Ryton > Hi John, > I have just checked with Brian re reference numbers regarding the 1861 and > 1871 Census. > Here they are, 1861 Census ref.RG9/3809 Folio 55 P10 > 1871 Census ref RG10/5068 Folio 4 P2. > Hope this helps, > Carole E Atkinson > > -----Original Message----- > From: northumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:northumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carole Atkinson > Sent: 21 February 2010 17:26 > To: northumbria@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NMB] 1861 and 1871 census of Ryton > > > Hi John, > Found the following, > Ryton Park 1861 Census. . > Roger ROBSON. 45 yrs. Farm Manager Born Otterburn. > Elizabeth ROBSON 40 yrs Born Wylam. > Rodger 16 or 15 yrs. House Servant. Born Elsdon. > Joseph 13 yrs Farm Worker. Born Ryton. > Margaret 1o yrs Scholar. Born Ryton. > Catherine 6 yrs. Scholar. Born Ryton. > Jane 4yrs Born Ryton.. > > Ryton Park 1871 Census. > Roger ROBSON 56yrs Agric Lab. Born Bolam Hills???? Rather > illegible. > Elizabeth ROBSON 49 yrs Born Elsdon. > Jane 14 yrs Born Ryton. > > > Please note that his wife is called Elizabeth on these two Census, > Margaret > may have had this as another name or Margaret may have died. I have had a > quick look but can't find that Roger remarried. Just a possibility. > Best of luck. > Carole E Atkinson > > -----Original Message----- > From: northumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:northumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of john robson > Sent: 21 February 2010 10:58 > To: Northumbria; Durham and Northumberland > Subject: [NMB] 1861 and 1871 census of Ryton > > > Hi All, > > can anyone help in my search. > > > > My gggranfather Roger Robson born in Elsdon in 1813 lived there until at > least 1848 where he was a shepherd, > > then a farm labourer. He married Margaret Davison born in Shilbottle > 1815, > in Gateshead in 1839 but took his wife > > back to Elsdon where his first three children were born, including my > ggrandfather John Robson. > > I found Roger next in the 1851 census in Ryton County Durham > working for Mr Joseph Lamb, a Scottish > > coal owner at Ryton Hall, Roger is now a husbandman. > > Ggrandfather John Robson eventually became a coachman for Mr > Lamb and his life is traceable until his > > death in 1891(just before the census). > > I have lately fond the marriage certificate of his daughter > Margaret, born about 1854 in Ryton, to Thomas > > Vallance in 1878 in Newcastle in which her father is Rodger Robson "land > steward" and not noted as being deceased. > > Assuming that he was still alive and still working for Mr Lamb > he should have been visible in the census's > > of 1861 and 1871 but I just can't find him. > > > > Have some details of the census's of those years in Ryton been > lost or destroyed? Roger must have been > > living very close to John during that time, or does anyone have access to > this information? > > > > John Robson > > > > (for some reason the message was missing from my prevoius emails) > > > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at > http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at > http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at > http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ______________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > http://www.netintelligence.com/email >

Hi Carole, I've just had a close look at the the original census image of the 1871 census whose reference you gave me. The enumerator has confused the birth places of Roger and Margaret. Roger was born in Elsdon and Margaret was born in Wylam Mills. That makes it much clearer. I wonder how or why he went from farm manager in 1861 to agric lab in 1871. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carole Atkinson" <carole@auckland.fsnet.co.uk> To: <northumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [NMB] 1861 and 1871 census of Ryton > Hi John, > I have just checked with Brian re reference numbers regarding the 1861 and > 1871 Census. > Here they are, 1861 Census ref.RG9/3809 Folio 55 P10 > 1871 Census ref RG10/5068 Folio 4 P2. > Hope this helps, > Carole E Atkinson > > -----Original Message----- > From: northumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:northumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carole Atkinson > Sent: 21 February 2010 17:26 > To: northumbria@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NMB] 1861 and 1871 census of Ryton > > > Hi John, > Found the following, > Ryton Park 1861 Census. . > Roger ROBSON. 45 yrs. Farm Manager Born Otterburn. > Elizabeth ROBSON 40 yrs Born Wylam. > Rodger 16 or 15 yrs. House Servant. Born Elsdon. > Joseph 13 yrs Farm Worker. Born Ryton. > Margaret 1o yrs Scholar. Born Ryton. > Catherine 6 yrs. Scholar. Born Ryton. > Jane 4yrs Born Ryton.. > > Ryton Park 1871 Census. > Roger ROBSON 56yrs Agric Lab. Born Bolam Hills???? Rather > illegible. > Elizabeth ROBSON 49 yrs Born Elsdon. > Jane 14 yrs Born Ryton. > > > Please note that his wife is called Elizabeth on these two Census, > Margaret > may have had this as another name or Margaret may have died. I have had a > quick look but can't find that Roger remarried. Just a possibility. > Best of luck. > Carole E Atkinson > > -----Original Message----- > From: northumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:northumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of john robson > Sent: 21 February 2010 10:58 > To: Northumbria; Durham and Northumberland > Subject: [NMB] 1861 and 1871 census of Ryton > > > Hi All, > > can anyone help in my search. > > > > My gggranfather Roger Robson born in Elsdon in 1813 lived there until at > least 1848 where he was a shepherd, > > then a farm labourer. He married Margaret Davison born in Shilbottle > 1815, > in Gateshead in 1839 but took his wife > > back to Elsdon where his first three children were born, including my > ggrandfather John Robson. > > I found Roger next in the 1851 census in Ryton County Durham > working for Mr Joseph Lamb, a Scottish > > coal owner at Ryton Hall, Roger is now a husbandman. > > Ggrandfather John Robson eventually became a coachman for Mr > Lamb and his life is traceable until his > > death in 1891(just before the census). > > I have lately fond the marriage certificate of his daughter > Margaret, born about 1854 in Ryton, to Thomas > > Vallance in 1878 in Newcastle in which her father is Rodger Robson "land > steward" and not noted as being deceased. > > Assuming that he was still alive and still working for Mr Lamb > he should have been visible in the census's > > of 1861 and 1871 but I just can't find him. > > > > Have some details of the census's of those years in Ryton been > lost or destroyed? Roger must have been > > living very close to John during that time, or does anyone have access to > this information? > > > > John Robson > > > > (for some reason the message was missing from my prevoius emails) > > > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at > http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at > http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at > http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ______________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > http://www.netintelligence.com/email >