Can anyone point us at sources for the death of John BOUSTEAD around 1830? His daughter Sarah was baptised at St Johns Newcastle upon Tyne in 1828 when the BT's show that he was a 'brewer' of Tynemouth. He (a husbandman) and wife Elizabeth had previously been at Point Pleasant, Wallsend. John's father makes a bequest to 'George the son of my deceased son John' in his will signed in October 1832. John Boustead was born in or near Irthington in 1882 and married Elizabeth Murray (of Arthuret (Longtown)) in 1812 in Wetheral where their first child was baptised. There were at least three families in the Newcastle area with John Boustead and Sarah as parents baptising children so sorting them out has taken time. Any help or suggestions welcome. Robin ps we have traced Elizabeth Boustead through the censuses as she is widowed with three of her daughter in Newcastle in 1841 and then lives with her daughter Ann Brown through the 1851 and 1861 period up to her death in 1867. -- Robin and Margaret McEwen-King Lanark Scotland
From: Geoff Nicholson Robin: The NDFHS publish an index which covers all burials in Northumberland 1813-37. It contains no suitable John Bowstead/Boustead etc. However, there was a John Boustey buried at Newcastle Ballast Hills nonconformist cemetery on 16 January 1825 aged 48. I know you say he had a child baptised in 1828 but could that possibly have been a late baptism, possibly delayed precisely because the father died around the time the child was born? I also realise the age is not quite in accordance with what you said, but it isn't far out and reported ages at death are notoriously inaccurate. I'm not saying "This is him", just "Take note, in case you can't find anything more likely"! Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: Shetland Sheep via <northumbria@rootsweb.com> To: northumbria <northumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 18:25 Subject: [NMB] Death of John BOUSTEAD about 1830 Can anyone point us at sources for the death of John BOUSTEAD around 1830? His daughter Sarah was baptised at St Johns Newcastle upon Tyne in 1828 when the BT's show that he was a 'brewer' of Tynemouth. He (a husbandman) and wife Elizabeth had previously been at Point Pleasant, Wallsend. John's father makes a bequest to 'George the son of my deceased son John' in his will signed in October 1832. John Boustead was born in or near Irthington in 1882 and married Elizabeth Murray (of Arthuret (Longtown)) in 1812 in Wetheral where their first child was baptised. There were at least three families in the Newcastle area with John Boustead and Sarah as parents baptising children so sorting them out has taken time. Any help or suggestions welcome. Robin ps we have traced Elizabeth Boustead through the censuses as she is widowed with three of her daughter in Newcastle in 1841 and then lives with her daughter Ann Brown through the 1851 and 1861 period up to her death in 1867. -- Robin and Margaret McEwen-King Lanark Scotland .. Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please introduce yourself at the top of every post. The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
From: Geoff Nicholson Sue: According to the National Index of Parish Registers (NIPR), Ponteland (Kirkley) Presbyterian Church was founded in 1672 but no more information is known about that. Later entries are "probably" in Stamfordham Presbyterian register. The NIPR entry for Stamfordham Presbyterian Church says that was founded about 1662 and the original registers, when the local NIPR volume was last published (1984) were still with the incumbent. However, copies were in Northumberland Record Office, and the LDS had a microfilm and had put a summary of the information on the IGI. Bearing in mind developments since 1984 it now seems possible that the original registers could be themselves in Northumberland Record Office (ie Woodhorn), or perhaps in Dr Williams' Library in London, and the IGI seems to have been overtaken by the LDS "FamilySearch" web site. The main drawback to what I have just said is that I have a copy of the final (1992, ie after the 1984 edition of the NIPR) microfiche edition of the IGI and that has no suitable entry on it at all. I am also not sure about your identification of Kirkley with Thorneyford. Perhaps someone else will know more than I do about that. I take it also that you are aware that in older registers the name Reynold often appears and that is really an older form of Reginald, so you should be looking for either when you search for Reginald. The use of a Presbyterian Church, plus the Scottish surname of Blair would both seem to point to the family having arrived from Scotland some time perhaps not long before 1792. Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: S Horsman via <northumbria@rootsweb.com> To: northumbria <northumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 9:58 Subject: [NMB] Reginald Blair / Hannah Charlton Reginald Blair married Hannah Charlton in 1792 at Ponteland. Ive found baptisms of 2 children, (Mary and Hannah) at Thorneyford (Kirkley) Presbyterian, but the records there start too late for the baptism of my ancestor Joseph Blair (born 1802 - details from the family bible). Census records tell me Joseph was born at Berwick Hill. Daughter Hannah married at Newcastle st John in 1828. My ancestor Joseph married at Bolam in 1833. Reginald and wife Hannah seem to have been buried at St John in 1821 and 1820. This info gives Reginald's date of birth as about 1754. I appreciate that early non conformist records are not fully comprehensive - but can anyone identify any other children for Reginald and Hannah. Also where was Reginald from and who were his parents ? Thanks Sue Horsman .. Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please introduce yourself at the top of every post. The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Reginald Blair married Hannah Charlton in 1792 at Ponteland. Ive found baptisms of 2 children, (Mary and Hannah) at Thorneyford (Kirkley) Presbyterian, but the records there start too late for the baptism of my ancestor Joseph Blair (born 1802 - details from the family bible). Census records tell me Joseph was born at Berwick Hill. Daughter Hannah married at Newcastle st John in 1828. My ancestor Joseph married at Bolam in 1833. Reginald and wife Hannah seem to have been buried at St John in 1821 and 1820. This info gives Reginald's date of birth as about 1754. I appreciate that early non conformist records are not fully comprehensive - but can anyone identify any other children for Reginald and Hannah. Also where was Reginald from and who were his parents ? Thanks Sue Horsman
Hi, Sometimes my emails don't go through, so. I'm wondering if this did, thanks. Malcolm Campbell From: medway@bell.net To: northumbria@rootsweb.com Subject: re;west allendale,limestone brae, throssel hole Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 21:56:11 +0000 Hi Alan, I am sending this to list & you so it will go in the archives. Thanks for the info re Thrussel Hall. Crozier is also in my family tree, although probably not the same one. Mine is on my maternal side as follows; Mine is BILL CROZIER, when he was born or any other info. on him I don't have (birth. place, baptism,death, marriage, mother/father siblings, etc) someone told me he worked at Binns in Sunderland. He was married to my maternal g'father (Thomas) sister Lizzie when & where I also don't know. As far as I know their children were Derek & MarySorry my info. is very spotty that's all I have. Regards, Malcolm (C) The farm on the left of the lane was Myrtle Bank and on the right was Throssel Hall/ Thrush Hole / Thrush Hall / Throstle Hole. Both Myrtle Bank and Throstle Hole are now part of the Buddhist Abbey – Myrtle Bank provides accommodation. The Crozier family – Jane and her son Thomas – were in ‘Thrush Hall’ from 1881 to 1911. I would be interested if anyone can provide information on this family.
Yes Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 12, 2014, at 12:06 PM, MALCOLM CAMPBELL via <northumbria@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hi, Sometimes my emails don't go through, so. I'm wondering if this did, thanks. Malcolm Campbell > > From: medway@bell.net > To: northumbria@rootsweb.com > Subject: re;west allendale,limestone brae, throssel hole > Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 21:56:11 +0000 > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Alan, > > I am sending this to list & you so it will go in the archives. Thanks for the info re Thrussel Hall. > > Crozier is also in my family tree, although probably not the same one. Mine is on my maternal side as follows; > > Mine is BILL CROZIER, when he was born or any other info. on him I don't have (birth. place, baptism,death, marriage, mother/father siblings, etc) someone told me he worked at Binns in Sunderland. He was married to my maternal g'father (Thomas) sister Lizzie when & where I also don't know. As far as I know their children were Derek & MarySorry my info. is very spotty that's all I have. > > Regards, Malcolm (C) > > > The > farm on the left of the lane was Myrtle Bank and on the right was > Throssel Hall/ Thrush Hole / Thrush Hall / Throstle Hole. Both Myrtle > Bank and Throstle Hole are now part of the Buddhist Abbey – Myrtle Bank > provides accommodation. The > Crozier family – Jane and her son Thomas – were in ‘Thrush Hall’ from > 1881 to 1911. I would be interested if anyone can provide information on > this family. > > > .. > Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please introduce yourself at the top of every post. > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thank you very much for your observations, Geoff, they are very much appreciated. Clearly, he lived in Pottergate Street. I fully accept what you say with regard to the general hygiene and cleanliness was concerned; in fact, Alnwick was probably not as badly affected as those areas of the North East more involved in the 19th century Industrial Revolution. I understand from local newspaper reports that the town of Alnwick experienced a cholera outbreak during 1847, which was before my Cox lot arrived in Alnwick. I¹m still not sure what was meant by ³high parts of the town², probably the elevated section. In my first message my double quote marks were showing as question marks and I apologise for this. If the same has happened to my reference to high parts of the town in this paragraph, please read it as a quote from the Northumberland Extensive Urban Survey: Mid 19th century to 20th century. Regards Andrew Wood Andrew: A few "observations" as requested. At the head (west end) of Pottergate street there is a tower above the road, which I take to be the "Pottergate", but the street itself is usually called Pottergate Street."Gate" in local usage does not only mean an entrance, such as might be found where a main road enters a town, but can also mean a road. In the case or Pottergate I'm not certain about the age of Pottergate Tower and whether or not it really was one of the mediaeval gateways into the town. At the other end of Alnwick town centre there is the better- known Percy Tower,which continues to be a major obstruction to modern traffic, but which looks much more like the mediaeval structure it is. Up to the 19th century there was a small stream between the eastern (bottom) end of Pottergate Street and the Castle precincts. Hence the castle was indeed on an elevation, as castles usually are. However it does not dominate the town of Alnwick in the way the castles of, say, Warkworth or Bamburgh. Much of the western part of Alnwick is actually higher, in the geographical sense,than the ground level around the castle. The description you have found of just how filthy 10th century Alnwick was is, I am sure, quite correct as far as it goes. However, I am also sure that Alnwick was in no way special in that respect. All our towns were in a similarly unhealthy state. Geoff Nicholson
A few weeks ago I indicated that I was trying to trace the footprints of my County Roscommon ancestors, who finished up on Teesside during the late 1850s; however, before arriving on Teesside they were in Northumberland for a few years, one at Embleton and his two brothers at Alnwick. I¹ve discovered that one of them, Patrick Cox, was living at ³Pottergate Street², Alnwick in 1856, when his eight day old daughter died. I¹ve been able to locate Pottergate, does anyone know if Pottergate was ever referred to as Pottergate Street? Also, a Northumberland Extensive Urban Survey: Mid 19th century to 20th century, makes the following observation in relation to Alnwick: ³overcrowded houses with large middens attached to privies; an absence of adequate waste removal; and houses divided into single room tenements and lodgings - highlighted as particularly unhealthy. Cholera cases, he noted, were more frequent in the high parts of the town¹, where the houses were most crowded and in the most filthy condition². I¹m not familiar with Alnwick, but presume that by higher parts of town, the report is referring to higher¹ in the geographically elevated sense and that Alnwick Castle would occupy the elevated higher part of town. From a map of Alnwick, Pottergate does not seem far from the Castle. Perhaps I¹m wrong and higher has a more historical meaning, i.e. more important, or historical business area as in High Street. I would welcome any observations. Regards Andrew Wood
A minor apology. I referred to the "Percy Tower" in Alnwick when, of course, I meant the "Hotspur Tower". It separates Bondgate Within from Bondgate Without - they're very down to earth with their names in Alnwick! Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: Geoff Nicholson via <northumbria@rootsweb.com> To: timbers.1 <timbers.1@ntlworld.com>; northumbria <northumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 18:23 Subject: Re: [NMB] Mid-19th century Alnwick Andrew: A few "observations" as requested. At the head (west end) of Pottergate street there is a tower above the road, which I take to be the "Pottergate", but the street itself is usually called Pottergate Street. "Gate" in local usage does not only mean an entrance, such as might be found where a main road enters a town, but can also mean a road. In the case or Pottergate I'm not certain about the age of Pottergate Tower and whether or not it really was one of the mediaeval gateways into the town. At the other end of Alnwick town centre there is the better-known Percy Tower, which continues to be a major obstruction to modern traffic, but which looks much more like the mediaeval structure it is. Up to the 19th century there was a small stream between the eastern (bottom) end of Pottergate Street and the Castle precincts. Hence the castle was indeed on an elevation, as castles usually are. However it does not dominate the town of Alnwick in the way the castles of, say, Warkworth or Bamburgh. Much of the western part of Alnwick is actually higher, in the geographical sense, than the ground level around the castle. The description you have found of just how filthy 10th century Alnwick was is, I am sure, quite correct as far as it goes. However, I am also sure that Alnwick was in no way special in that respect. All our towns were in a similarly unhealthy state. Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Wood via <northumbria@rootsweb.com> To: NORTHUMBRIA <NORTHUMBRIA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 16:57 Subject: [NMB] Mid-19th century Alnwick A few weeks ago I indicated that I was trying to trace the footprints of my County Roscommon ancestors, who finished up on Teesside during the late 1850s; however, before arriving on Teesside they were in Northumberland for a few years, one at Embleton and his two brothers at Alnwick. I¹ve discovered that one of them, Patrick Cox, was living at ³Pottergate Street², Alnwick in 1856, when his eight day old daughter died. I¹ve been able to locate Pottergate, does anyone know if Pottergate was ever referred to as Pottergate Street? Also, a Northumberland Extensive Urban Survey: Mid 19th century to 20th century, makes the following observation in relation to Alnwick: ³overcrowded houses with large middens attached to privies; an absence of adequate waste removal; and houses divided into single room tenements and lodgings - highlighted as particularly unhealthy. Cholera cases, he noted, were more frequent in the high parts of the town¹, where the houses were most crowded and in the most filthy condition². I¹m not familiar with Alnwick, but presume that by higher parts of town, the report is referring to higher¹ in the geographically elevated sense and that Alnwick Castle would occupy the elevated higher part of town. From a map of Alnwick, Pottergate does not seem far from the Castle. Perhaps I¹m wrong and higher has a more historical meaning, i.e. more important, or historical business area as in High Street. I would welcome any observations. Regards Andrew Wood .. Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please introduce yourself at the top of every post. The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message .. Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please introduce yourself at the top of every post. The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Andrew: A few "observations" as requested. At the head (west end) of Pottergate street there is a tower above the road, which I take to be the "Pottergate", but the street itself is usually called Pottergate Street. "Gate" in local usage does not only mean an entrance, such as might be found where a main road enters a town, but can also mean a road. In the case or Pottergate I'm not certain about the age of Pottergate Tower and whether or not it really was one of the mediaeval gateways into the town. At the other end of Alnwick town centre there is the better-known Percy Tower, which continues to be a major obstruction to modern traffic, but which looks much more like the mediaeval structure it is. Up to the 19th century there was a small stream between the eastern (bottom) end of Pottergate Street and the Castle precincts. Hence the castle was indeed on an elevation, as castles usually are. However it does not dominate the town of Alnwick in the way the castles of, say, Warkworth or Bamburgh. Much of the western part of Alnwick is actually higher, in the geographical sense, than the ground level around the castle. The description you have found of just how filthy 10th century Alnwick was is, I am sure, quite correct as far as it goes. However, I am also sure that Alnwick was in no way special in that respect. All our towns were in a similarly unhealthy state. Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Wood via <northumbria@rootsweb.com> To: NORTHUMBRIA <NORTHUMBRIA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 16:57 Subject: [NMB] Mid-19th century Alnwick A few weeks ago I indicated that I was trying to trace the footprints of my County Roscommon ancestors, who finished up on Teesside during the late 1850s; however, before arriving on Teesside they were in Northumberland for a few years, one at Embleton and his two brothers at Alnwick. I¹ve discovered that one of them, Patrick Cox, was living at ³Pottergate Street², Alnwick in 1856, when his eight day old daughter died. I¹ve been able to locate Pottergate, does anyone know if Pottergate was ever referred to as Pottergate Street? Also, a Northumberland Extensive Urban Survey: Mid 19th century to 20th century, makes the following observation in relation to Alnwick: ³overcrowded houses with large middens attached to privies; an absence of adequate waste removal; and houses divided into single room tenements and lodgings - highlighted as particularly unhealthy. Cholera cases, he noted, were more frequent in the high parts of the town¹, where the houses were most crowded and in the most filthy condition². I¹m not familiar with Alnwick, but presume that by higher parts of town, the report is referring to higher¹ in the geographically elevated sense and that Alnwick Castle would occupy the elevated higher part of town. From a map of Alnwick, Pottergate does not seem far from the Castle. Perhaps I¹m wrong and higher has a more historical meaning, i.e. more important, or historical business area as in High Street. I would welcome any observations. Regards Andrew Wood .. Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please introduce yourself at the top of every post. The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Where was Percy Banks in Chirton? I have looked at three old maps at North Shields Central Library 1856 to 1894 and there is no street/road named Percy Banks on them. Do you have the folio no., Piece no. Enumerators no. for the sheet the family is on as this would help to find the area. Mildred Robson, North Shields. ----- Original Message ----- From: <northumbria-request@rootsweb.com> To: <northumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 8:00 AM Subject: NORTHUMBRIA Digest, Vol 9, Issue 189 > > > Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please > introduce yourself at the top of every post. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Where was Percy Banks in Chirton? (John Gosling) > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the NORTHUMBRIA list administrator, send an email to > NORTHUMBRIA-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the NORTHUMBRIA mailing list, send an email to > NORTHUMBRIA@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of NORTHUMBRIA Digest, Vol 9, Issue 189 > *******************************************
Hi Geoff, Thanks for this. I did just come across a reference on a book digitised by google. The Poll Book of the Contested Election for the Southern Division of Northumberland ... December, 1832 http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=-6FYAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA88&lpg=PA88&dq=percy+banks+chirton+hay&source=bl&ots=3kQ1sH3y9M&sig=hG3GgN0XCt9RIrmseSy_BYWtHKg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=em4uVJv9JtXjaszfgOgG&ved=0CDAQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=percy%20banks%20chirton%20hay&f=false There is a reference on the page to Percy-banks, Hay-hl, which will be an abbreviation for Hayhole. And low and behold, just spread out my Percy Main map as I remembered there is a Hayhole Point listed on the river side, and just above, there's the elusive Percy Bank, just to the left of the Commissioners' Straiths. Fantastic :-) Still not sure exactly what it is. There's a couple of buldings there, but looks like a god-forsaken place to live. Regards John ________________________________ From: Geoff Nicholson <geoff.nicholson@aol.co.uk> To: jd.gosling@btinternet.com; northumbria@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, 3 October 2014, 10:34 Subject: Re: [NMB] Where was Percy Banks in Chirton? From: Geoff Nicholson John: Percy Road/Street West runs west/east through a lot of Chirton and North Shields, even today. I would expect Percy Banks to have been the steeply-sloping district between that road and the river, now entirely built over. Failing that, there just might be a connection with Percy Main just about a mile west of N Shields. However, that was an old pit village, a little further from the river and, to me, "Banks" sounds like a steep hillside. Geoff Nicholson
From: Geoff Nicholson John: Percy Road/Street West runs west/east through a lot of Chirton and North Shields, even today. I would expect Percy Banks to have been the steeply-sloping district between that road and the river, now entirely built over. Failing that, there just might be a connection with Percy Main just about a mile west of N Shields. However, that was an old pit village, a little further from the river and, to me, "Banks" sounds like a steep hillside. Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: John Gosling via <northumbria@rootsweb.com> To: NORTHUMBRIA <NORTHUMBRIA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, 2 Oct 2014 21:52 Subject: [NMB] Where was Percy Banks in Chirton? Hi, Could someone help me locate Percy Banks? I have a family living there in 1851. I have maps for Chirton and Percy Main, but have not been able to pin down where Percy Banks. Regards John .. Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please introduce yourself at the top of every post. The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi, Could someone help me locate Percy Banks? I have a family living there in 1851. I have maps for Chirton and Percy Main, but have not been able to pin down where Percy Banks. Regards John
On 29/09/2014 09:34, Geoff Nicholson via wrote: > For the 19th century (see FreeBMD for details of boundary- and name- > changes) in general, Morpeth would be in Morpeth Registration District. Geoff Fran didn't ask for the name of the registration district at the the time of the death, she asked where she would get a death certificate from at the current time. And, as I wrote, for a death at Morpeth, that is the Northumberland Central Registration District at Morpeth. Full address Northumberland Central Register Office Morpeth Town Hall Market Place Morpeth NE61 1LZ Morpeth Registration District ceased to exist on 31 Dec 1936, so there would be little point applying there. Brian -- Brian Pears (Gateshead)
Hi to save blood being spilled my grandmother died in 1913. Fran On 29 September 2014 09:34, Geoff Nicholson via <northumbria@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > From: Geoff Nicholson > > Brian: > > You are probably right, but not necessarily. There is the (fairly) > obvious point that we are assuming they died after 1 July 1837 for there to > be a death certificate at all. Then there is the more likely objection > that the certificate is issued by the registrar of the registration > district within which the death took place. The burial might not be in the > same district, depending on where there was a family grave, whether the > deceased was away from home (business, shopping trip, visit to > friends/relatives etc) and died unexpectedly while away. If a person who > lived in Morpeth happened to die while on a visit to Newcastle, then the > death certificate would be issued by the Newcastle registrar but the burial > would probably have been "back home" in Morpeth. "Northumberland Central" > is a comparatively modern registration district. For the 19th century (see > FreeBMD for details of boundary- and name- changes) in general, Morpeth > would be in Morpeth Registration District. > > Geoff Nicholson > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Pears via <northumbria@rootsweb.com> > To: knight frances <kcannyann@blueyonder.co.uk>; northumbria < > northumbria@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 17:48 > Subject: Re: [NMB] Information > > > On 28/09/2014 16:25, knight frances via wrote: > > if someone die and was buried in Morpeth is it Newcastle I would get a > > death certificate from please? > > No, you would get it from the Northumberland Central > Register Office at Morpeth or online from > > http://registrar.northumberland.gov.uk/certificates/Search.aspx > > Brian > > -- > Brian Pears (Gateshead) > .. > Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please > introduce yourself at the top of every post. > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at > http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > .. > Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please > introduce yourself at the top of every post. > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at > http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
From: Geoff Nicholson Brian: You are probably right, but not necessarily. There is the (fairly) obvious point that we are assuming they died after 1 July 1837 for there to be a death certificate at all. Then there is the more likely objection that the certificate is issued by the registrar of the registration district within which the death took place. The burial might not be in the same district, depending on where there was a family grave, whether the deceased was away from home (business, shopping trip, visit to friends/relatives etc) and died unexpectedly while away. If a person who lived in Morpeth happened to die while on a visit to Newcastle, then the death certificate would be issued by the Newcastle registrar but the burial would probably have been "back home" in Morpeth. "Northumberland Central" is a comparatively modern registration district. For the 19th century (see FreeBMD for details of boundary- and name- changes) in general, Morpeth would be in Morpeth Registration District. Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: Brian Pears via <northumbria@rootsweb.com> To: knight frances <kcannyann@blueyonder.co.uk>; northumbria <northumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 17:48 Subject: Re: [NMB] Information On 28/09/2014 16:25, knight frances via wrote: > if someone die and was buried in Morpeth is it Newcastle I would get a > death certificate from please? No, you would get it from the Northumberland Central Register Office at Morpeth or online from http://registrar.northumberland.gov.uk/certificates/Search.aspx Brian -- Brian Pears (Gateshead) .. Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please introduce yourself at the top of every post. The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
On 28/09/2014 16:25, knight frances via wrote: > if someone die and was buried in Morpeth is it Newcastle I would get a > death certificate from please? No, you would get it from the Northumberland Central Register Office at Morpeth or online from http://registrar.northumberland.gov.uk/certificates/Search.aspx Brian -- Brian Pears (Gateshead)
Hi Folks if someone die and was buried in Morpeth is it Newcastle I would get a death certificate from please? Fran
Andrew Millard (who is chairman of GENUKI and Academic Co-ordinator of the Guild of One-Name Studies) has produced a useful guide to pre-1858 probate records. The section relating to our list area is at: https://community.dur.ac.uk/a.r.millard/genealogy/probate.php#DUR Brian -- Brian Pears Joint Admin NORTHUMBRIA Mailing List GENUKI Maintainer for Northumberland