Hi all, I have a William GRAY, who, according to the baptismal records of his children, was born in Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland in or around 1762. William married Elizabeth nee HOGGETT in Holy Trinity Church, Sunderland, Co. Durham, in 1784 .Elizabeth was the daughter of Thomas HOGGETT and Bridgett of Sunderland. If anyone is researching the GRAY family from Northumbria or Durham I would love to connect. I am descended form his son, John GRAY, ship builder, who emigrated to Tasmania in 1823 and built boats throughout his long life. Best wishes to all Beverley Rodan Melbourne

I have some information on a Gray family in Hartlepool Co Durham, though it doesn't go back very far. I will send it to you if you like, and you can judge whether it's part of your line Margaret -----Original Message----- From: Beverley-Anne Rodan via Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 8:12 AM To: northumbria@rootsweb.com Subject: [NMB] GRAY family If anyone is researching the GRAY family from Northumbria or Durham I would love to connect. I am descended form his son, John GRAY, ship builder, who emigrated to Tasmania in 1823 and built boats throughout his long life.

Christene: I can find nothing closer than a 1798 (much too late uinless it was highly-delayed) baptism for Joseph in Corbridge, either in my own extensive index or in the last (1992) microfiche edition of the almost-comprehensive IGI. I would normally suggest looking at the register of Halton church, which is just outside Corbridge, of which parish Halton was a Parochial Chapelry. However, that also features in both my index and the IGI. Given that your information is correct - ie that it is from a reliable source and has not been mis-read or misinterpreted, I have to ask whether the baptism could have been in a non-C-of-E church. Roman Catholics were strong in that part of Tynedale and there were early Methodists in Hexham, as well as Presbyterians all around, so there is definitely scope for that. As far as Catherine Forster is concerned there is such a baptism in Corbridge registers - but in 1777. That seems too early to be yours, so my comments are much the same as before. I notice they were married in Newcastle St Nicholas (now the Cathedral) in 1807, so can we take it they had children baptised there during the "Barrington period", which lasted until the end of 1812 and during which details such as the names of the parishes of which each parent was a native were given? Such statements were not always correct. Perhaps they could be interpreted as "the earliest I can remember we were living in Corbridge", which, of course, does not mean they were born or baptised there. If I am right, and if they had several children 1807-1812, do all those "native of" statements agree with each other? Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: Christene Hoffert via <northumbria@rootsweb.com> To: NORTHUMBRIA <NORTHUMBRIA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 19:15 Subject: [NMB] GARDNER and FORSTER >From family history notes Joseph GARDNER was born in Corbridge in 1782 and Catherine FORSTER was born in 1788 in Corbridge. I have yet to find any index that gives their baptism although those of their children are. Does anyone know where the records may be? Christene .. Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please introduce yourself at the top of every post. The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>From family history notes Joseph GARDNER was born in Corbridge in 1782 and Catherine FORSTER was born in 1788 in Corbridge. I have yet to find any index that gives their baptism although those of their children are. Does anyone know where the records may be? Christene

Hi If you had an ancestor or relative killed in WW1 who had been a student at Armstrong College, you may find him listed in this project. Tucked away at the entrance to the Armstrong Building at Newcastle University is a war memorial recording the names of 223 men from the former Armstrong College who died in WW1. University library staff, students, local schools and others have been researching these men to produce the Armstrong WW1 Memorial Digital Memory Book. http://memorial.ncl.ac.uk/ Brian -- Brian Pears (Gateshead)

Hi I have 'Winter' ancestors lived in Newcastle where I lived at the time. That was from early 1900's to 1960's. I don't know if any are still there. I need to look thru my data to give names and will get back to you. Fran On 16 November 2014 05:03, Steve via <northumbria@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi all not long ago i brought a old photo album > in it, it has photos of the Winter and Eastwood families > The photos are done by photographers from Durham and Northumbria or that > area > I have only a couple of names to go by > 1st is a Jennie Eastwood (Jane Mary Ann Boyd Eastwood) who marries a John > Boynes in Mar 1892 Tynemouth > there are other photos with grand ma Eastwood and grand dad Eastwood (could > be a John Eastwood) > > the other is the Winter family > > A James Winter and Jack Winter > > The Winters where it seem involved in the Salvation Army , as i have photos > of them taken in Wales, Nebraska USA and China (yellow river area) > > both family groups seem to be in the late 1800s and early part of the 1900s > > my intent is to find decedents and return the album to them > > btw the Album was brought from Australia so some part of either family may > have emigrated to Australia sometime early 1900s to mid 1900s > so any help would be welcome > > > Kind regards > > Steve Fraser > > > > .. > Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please > introduce yourself at the top of every post. > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at > http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi all not long ago i brought a old photo album in it, it has photos of the Winter and Eastwood families The photos are done by photographers from Durham and Northumbria or that area I have only a couple of names to go by 1st is a Jennie Eastwood (Jane Mary Ann Boyd Eastwood) who marries a John Boynes in Mar 1892 Tynemouth there are other photos with grand ma Eastwood and grand dad Eastwood (could be a John Eastwood) the other is the Winter family A James Winter and Jack Winter The Winters where it seem involved in the Salvation Army , as i have photos of them taken in Wales, Nebraska USA and China (yellow river area) both family groups seem to be in the late 1800s and early part of the 1900s my intent is to find decedents and return the album to them btw the Album was brought from Australia so some part of either family may have emigrated to Australia sometime early 1900s to mid 1900s so any help would be welcome Kind regards Steve Fraser

Hi Joyce The page is The Families of Ann Young of Northumberland Jim On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Jim Lonsdale <brickie1949@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi Joyce > I too have Barrass ancestors and discovered some > information on geneaology.com through Google > I typed in Sarah Hempseed who married Alexander Barrass > and a Barrass tree appeared with a great deal of Barrass > information.Obviously can't say how accurate it is, but worth a look > I did see the people you mentioned > Regards > Jim > > On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Joyce via <northumbria@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > >> >> After retiring I decided to look back into my family history and have >> found >> the following >> Matthew Barrass a coal miner born about 1834 Benton Square Longbenton >> Northumberland England died August 22, 1894 Earsdon Square Northumberland >> England >> He was married December 20, 1855 at St Bartholomew's Church Parish, >> Longbenton Tynemouth Northumberland England to Ann Isabella Bell borne >> February 9, 1838 Gosforth Northumberland England-July 4, 1903 >> They had 6 children - >> Elizabeth, Andrew Bell,Sarah, Margaret, Samuel [1876-1955-My Great >> grandfather] and Annie >> Oldest daughter Eliz. married Henry Lamb and Samuel married Sarah Ellen >> Gibbeson Of Earsdon Northumberland >> >> I am trying to find out: >> 1. if his parents were indeed John Barras[s] 1790-1871 Backworth >> Tynemouth >> Northumberland England and Eliz Manuel 1795-1886 Backworth Tynemouth >> Northumberland England >> 2. any information I can glean for the Matthew Barrass and Annie Bell >> family >> as my Tree branch moved to Canada and contact with the family was >> miniscule. >> >> Joyce >> Canada >> >> .. >> Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please >> introduce yourself at the top of every post. >> >> The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at >> http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

Maybe no link, but just an interesting coincidence … http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Barassi,_Sr. Brett Buninyong, Australia > On 9 Nov 2014, at 6:45 pm, Jim Lonsdale via <northumbria@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hi Joyce > The page is > The Families of Ann Young of Northumberland > Jim > > On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Jim Lonsdale <brickie1949@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Hi Joyce >> I too have Barrass ancestors and discovered some >> information on geneaology.com through Google >> I typed in Sarah Hempseed who married Alexander Barrass >> and a Barrass tree appeared with a great deal of Barrass >> information.Obviously can't say how accurate it is, but worth a look >> I did see the people you mentioned >> Regards >> Jim >> >> On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Joyce via <northumbria@rootsweb.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> After retiring I decided to look back into my family history and have >>> found >>> the following >>> Matthew Barrass a coal miner born about 1834 Benton Square Longbenton >>> Northumberland England died August 22, 1894 Earsdon Square Northumberland >>> England >>> He was married December 20, 1855 at St Bartholomew's Church Parish, >>> Longbenton Tynemouth Northumberland England to Ann Isabella Bell borne >>> February 9, 1838 Gosforth Northumberland England-July 4, 1903 >>> They had 6 children - >>> Elizabeth, Andrew Bell,Sarah, Margaret, Samuel [1876-1955-My Great >>> grandfather] and Annie >>> Oldest daughter Eliz. married Henry Lamb and Samuel married Sarah Ellen >>> Gibbeson Of Earsdon Northumberland >>> >>> I am trying to find out: >>> 1. if his parents were indeed John Barras[s] 1790-1871 Backworth >>> Tynemouth >>> Northumberland England and Eliz Manuel 1795-1886 Backworth Tynemouth >>> Northumberland England >>> 2. any information I can glean for the Matthew Barrass and Annie Bell >>> family >>> as my Tree branch moved to Canada and contact with the family was >>> miniscule. >>> >>> Joyce >>> Canada >>> >>> .. >>> Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please >>> introduce yourself at the top of every post. >>> >>> The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at >>> http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> > .. > Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please introduce yourself at the top of every post. > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Joyce I too have Barrass ancestors and discovered some information on geneaology.com through Google I typed in Sarah Hempseed who married Alexander Barrass and a Barrass tree appeared with a great deal of Barrass information.Obviously can't say how accurate it is, but worth a look I did see the people you mentioned Regards Jim On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Joyce via <northumbria@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > After retiring I decided to look back into my family history and have > found > the following > Matthew Barrass a coal miner born about 1834 Benton Square Longbenton > Northumberland England died August 22, 1894 Earsdon Square Northumberland > England > He was married December 20, 1855 at St Bartholomew's Church Parish, > Longbenton Tynemouth Northumberland England to Ann Isabella Bell borne > February 9, 1838 Gosforth Northumberland England-July 4, 1903 > They had 6 children - > Elizabeth, Andrew Bell,Sarah, Margaret, Samuel [1876-1955-My Great > grandfather] and Annie > Oldest daughter Eliz. married Henry Lamb and Samuel married Sarah Ellen > Gibbeson Of Earsdon Northumberland > > I am trying to find out: > 1. if his parents were indeed John Barras[s] 1790-1871 Backworth Tynemouth > Northumberland England and Eliz Manuel 1795-1886 Backworth Tynemouth > Northumberland England > 2. any information I can glean for the Matthew Barrass and Annie Bell > family > as my Tree branch moved to Canada and contact with the family was > miniscule. > > Joyce > Canada > > .. > Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please > introduce yourself at the top of every post. > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at > http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Joyce: It could be that the web site you have been given contains a lot of material which could help you, but if you are a comparative beginner, as seems from your introduction, perhaps it should be mentioned that not everything which appears on the internet is necessarily correct - that is, the person who put it there (and who you don't know: nor do you know anything about their ability, integrity or sources) may not have researched it as thoroughly as you would hope. Of course, not all internet statements and pedigrees are dubious, but it does pay to be sceptical about anything you yourself have not researched from original documents, or from facsimiles of them. Possible baptisms for your Matthew would include (from my own Northumberland baptism index): 1832 Mar 11, son of Robert & Elizabeth, -----, bap at Earsdon 1832 Jul 15, son of John & Elizabeth, Benton Square, pitman, bap at Longbenton - it seems he must have died before 1835. 1835 Jan 18, son of John & Elizabeth, Benton Square, pitman, bap at Longbenton 1838 Oct 21. son of Matthew & Ann, Benton Square, butcher, bap at Longbenton Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: Joyce via <northumbria@rootsweb.com> To: northumbria <northumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 23:07 Subject: [NMB] Matthew Barrass Family of Northumberland After retiring I decided to look back into my family history and have found the following Matthew Barrass a coal miner born about 1834 Benton Square Longbenton Northumberland England died August 22, 1894 Earsdon Square Northumberland England He was married December 20, 1855 at St Bartholomew's Church Parish, Longbenton Tynemouth Northumberland England to Ann Isabella Bell borne February 9, 1838 Gosforth Northumberland England-July 4, 1903 They had 6 children - Elizabeth, Andrew Bell,Sarah, Margaret, Samuel [1876-1955-My Great grandfather] and Annie Oldest daughter Eliz. married Henry Lamb and Samuel married Sarah Ellen Gibbeson Of Earsdon Northumberland I am trying to find out: 1. if his parents were indeed John Barras[s] 1790-1871 Backworth Tynemouth Northumberland England and Eliz Manuel 1795-1886 Backworth Tynemouth Northumberland England 2. any information I can glean for the Matthew Barrass and Annie Bell family as my Tree branch moved to Canada and contact with the family was miniscule. Joyce Canada .. Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please introduce yourself at the top of every post. The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you to Evelyn and Janita for helpful responses to my new quest for my 3 x G grandfather John Brown born North Shields 1794, who left for London and was there by 1815 when he married and until he died in 1866. I would love to hear from any other Newcastle/Tynemouth/North Shields Brown researchers. Nigel Brown -----Original Message----- From: northumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:northumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ken & Evelyn MacCallum via Sent: 05 November 2014 21:44 To: northumbria@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NMB] John BROWN, North Shields, 1794 Hello I'm not sure if this will be a red herring but in with a pile of predominantly unnamed photos of my Tynemouth, Hislop, Stupart and Thompson ancestors, there is a photo of a Miss P. Brown, an attractive, elegantly dressed young lady  and she's linking arms with a dapper young man, whose first name initial is W.  The photo appears, to my limited knowledge, to be around 1850 / 60. If this is of interest to anyone, please let me know and I'll email a copy. Yours aye Evelyn From: JANITA FREEMAN [mailto:janitafreeman@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: 05 November 2014 17:33 To: Nigel Brown; northumbria@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NMB] John BROWN, North Shields, 1794 Hi Nigel, I'm also researching 'Browns' in North Shields. My Great Grandmother was Isabella Brown c 1851. As its such a 'popular' name I cannot go any further back or forward. Nightmare with that surname. To make matters worse she had 3 children out of wedlock and the father of her children was Joseph Matthewson. The children begain with Brown as their surname and later my Grandfather became known by the surname Matthewson. She also used the Matthewson name on 1881 census, calling herself a blacksmiths wife, when my grandfather was 5 days old. They don't seem to have married. Good luck with your research. Janita JANITA

After retiring I decided to look back into my family history and have found the following Matthew Barrass a coal miner born about 1834 Benton Square Longbenton Northumberland England died August 22, 1894 Earsdon Square Northumberland England He was married December 20, 1855 at St Bartholomew's Church Parish, Longbenton Tynemouth Northumberland England to Ann Isabella Bell borne February 9, 1838 Gosforth Northumberland England-July 4, 1903 They had 6 children - Elizabeth, Andrew Bell,Sarah, Margaret, Samuel [1876-1955-My Great grandfather] and Annie Oldest daughter Eliz. married Henry Lamb and Samuel married Sarah Ellen Gibbeson Of Earsdon Northumberland I am trying to find out: 1. if his parents were indeed John Barras[s] 1790-1871 Backworth Tynemouth Northumberland England and Eliz Manuel 1795-1886 Backworth Tynemouth Northumberland England 2. any information I can glean for the Matthew Barrass and Annie Bell family as my Tree branch moved to Canada and contact with the family was miniscule. Joyce Canada

Hello I'm not sure if this will be a red herring but in with a pile of predominantly unnamed photos of my Tynemouth, Hislop, Stupart and Thompson ancestors, there is a photo of a Miss P. Brown, an attractive, elegantly dressed young lady  and she's linking arms with a dapper young man, whose first name initial is W.  The photo appears, to my limited knowledge, to be around 1850 / 60. If this is of interest to anyone, please let me know and I'll email a copy. Yours aye Evelyn

Hi Nigel, I'm also researching 'Browns' in North Shields. My Great Grandmother was Isabella Brown c 1851. As its such a 'popular' name I cannot go any further back or forward. Nightmare with that surname. To make matters worse she had 3 children out of wedlock and the father of her children was Joseph Matthewson. The children begain with Brown as their surname and later my Grandfather became known by the surname Matthewson. She also used the Matthewson name on 1881 census, calling herself a blacksmiths wife, when my grandfather was 5 days old. They don't seem to have married. Good luck with your research. Janita JANITA On Tuesday, 4 November 2014, 19:53, Nigel Brown via <northumbria@rootsweb.com> wrote: Chris, Thanks for your reply and hope to hear from you more on your return. I should add that I have found one John Smith in Tynemouth Parish, baptised at Christ Church, North Shields on 31 July 1796, son of Russell Brown (a customs officer) and Mary Rich. However, I know from 3 sources that he died in Newcastle on January 1819, aged 22. So he is not our man (who married in London 1815). I have found another John Smith baptised at All Saints, Newcastle on 1 September 1794 (parents George and Mary). He is now our prime suspect, a date that is consistent with his known birth on 19 April 1794, except that he was born in North Shields. Hence my question about taking a baby from North Shields to Newcastle for baptism. However, I think I have now found the answer to my own question, as Russell and Mary had their nine children baptised variously in Christ Church, North Shields and All Saints, Newcastle, and St. Andrews, Newcastle, although I suppose that might have reflected living in both places at different times. Anyway, I am still most interested in hearing from anyone researching Browns in the North Shields/Tynemouth area in the late 1700s. Nigel Brown -----Original Message----- From: chrismorgan4@btinternet.com [mailto:chrismorgan4@btinternet.com] Sent: 04 November 2014 17:08 To: Nigel Brown; northumbria@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [NMB] John BROWN, North Shields, 1794 Currently away from home so no access to records. My wife's family descend through John and Joseph Browns, master mariners from South Shields, although I haven't proved back to your era so they could have come from anywhere. There were a lot of ships, a lot of masters - and a lot of J Browns. Who knows, we may have a connection. Chris Morgan -----Original Message----- From: Nigel Brown via Sent: 04/11/2014, 16:45 To: NORTHUMBRIA@rootsweb.com Subject: [NMB] John BROWN, North Shields, 1794 I am hoping someone on the list will have local historical knowledge of North Shields. I am looking for my 3 x great grandfather John Brown (yes, I know, one of the most common names in England) born North Shields (or perhaps anywhere in Tynemouth) on 19 April 1794. We know this date from his Merchant Navy Register Ticket in London, where he spent all his adult life. There are lots of Browns in North Shields but I can find no sign of john baptised at Christ Church, North Shields which I understand was the parish church for Tynemouth. However, there is a possible candidate at All Saints, Newcastle on 1 September 1794 (parents George and Mary). The question is: what is the likelihood that people in and around North Shields would have had their child baptised in Newcastle then. I do know that Christ Church was being renovated around this time and wonder if this might have anything to do with making such a journey. Thanks in advance for any help or advice. Nigel Brown .. Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please introduce yourself at the top of every post. The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Chris, Thanks for your reply and hope to hear from you more on your return. I should add that I have found one John Smith in Tynemouth Parish, baptised at Christ Church, North Shields on 31 July 1796, son of Russell Brown (a customs officer) and Mary Rich. However, I know from 3 sources that he died in Newcastle on January 1819, aged 22. So he is not our man (who married in London 1815). I have found another John Smith baptised at All Saints, Newcastle on 1 September 1794 (parents George and Mary). He is now our prime suspect, a date that is consistent with his known birth on 19 April 1794, except that he was born in North Shields. Hence my question about taking a baby from North Shields to Newcastle for baptism. However, I think I have now found the answer to my own question, as Russell and Mary had their nine children baptised variously in Christ Church, North Shields and All Saints, Newcastle, and St. Andrews, Newcastle, although I suppose that might have reflected living in both places at different times. Anyway, I am still most interested in hearing from anyone researching Browns in the North Shields/Tynemouth area in the late 1700s. Nigel Brown -----Original Message----- From: chrismorgan4@btinternet.com [mailto:chrismorgan4@btinternet.com] Sent: 04 November 2014 17:08 To: Nigel Brown; northumbria@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [NMB] John BROWN, North Shields, 1794 Currently away from home so no access to records. My wife's family descend through John and Joseph Browns, master mariners from South Shields, although I haven't proved back to your era so they could have come from anywhere. There were a lot of ships, a lot of masters - and a lot of J Browns. Who knows, we may have a connection. Chris Morgan -----Original Message----- From: Nigel Brown via Sent: 04/11/2014, 16:45 To: NORTHUMBRIA@rootsweb.com Subject: [NMB] John BROWN, North Shields, 1794 I am hoping someone on the list will have local historical knowledge of North Shields. I am looking for my 3 x great grandfather John Brown (yes, I know, one of the most common names in England) born North Shields (or perhaps anywhere in Tynemouth) on 19 April 1794. We know this date from his Merchant Navy Register Ticket in London, where he spent all his adult life. There are lots of Browns in North Shields but I can find no sign of john baptised at Christ Church, North Shields which I understand was the parish church for Tynemouth. However, there is a possible candidate at All Saints, Newcastle on 1 September 1794 (parents George and Mary). The question is: what is the likelihood that people in and around North Shields would have had their child baptised in Newcastle then. I do know that Christ Church was being renovated around this time and wonder if this might have anything to do with making such a journey. Thanks in advance for any help or advice. Nigel Brown

I am hoping someone on the list will have local historical knowledge of North Shields. I am looking for my 3 x great grandfather John Brown (yes, I know, one of the most common names in England) born North Shields (or perhaps anywhere in Tynemouth) on 19 April 1794. We know this date from his Merchant Navy Register Ticket in London, where he spent all his adult life. There are lots of Browns in North Shields but I can find no sign of john baptised at Christ Church, North Shields which I understand was the parish church for Tynemouth. However, there is a possible candidate at All Saints, Newcastle on 1 September 1794 (parents George and Mary). The question is: what is the likelihood that people in and around North Shields would have had their child baptised in Newcastle then. I do know that Christ Church was being renovated around this time and wonder if this might have anything to do with making such a journey. Thanks in advance for any help or advice. Nigel Brown

Gwyneth All posts to this list must relate to the counties of Northumberland or Co Durham. There are lists devoted to shipping and seamen - notably Mariners at Mariners http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Occupations/MARINERS.html Please address such queries there. Brian On 03/11/2014 03:48, Gwyneth Watson User via wrote: > Skeffington received his Certificate of Competency as 2nd Mate on the 25 May > 1860 aged 23yrs. I don't think he obtained any other qualification except > sailing the 7 seas for the rest of his life, spending time in unbelievable > places enduring sickness and many shipwrecks. He was also in New Zealand > for a few years. > > I am wondering if sks knows what he would have done to reach this service > wise, study etc. Would he have served an apprenticeship with any specific > ship/captain? > > His father Matthew Dodds and Grandfather John had shares in shipping though > it wasn't what Matthew had planned for him, being the eldest son, and they > were estranged for many years. > > Cheers Gwyneth -- Brian Pears Joint Admin NORTHUMBRIA Mailing List GENUKI Maintainer for Northumberland

Hello, Skeffington received his Certificate of Competency as 2nd Mate on the 25 May 1860 aged 23yrs. I don't think he obtained any other qualification except sailing the 7 seas for the rest of his life, spending time in unbelievable places enduring sickness and many shipwrecks. He was also in New Zealand for a few years. I am wondering if sks knows what he would have done to reach this service wise, study etc. Would he have served an apprenticeship with any specific ship/captain? His father Matthew Dodds and Grandfather John had shares in shipping though it wasn't what Matthew had planned for him, being the eldest son, and they were estranged for many years. Cheers Gwyneth Sydney

Further to my message below, my iPad autocorrect appears to have taken over. The middle sentence should read "However, he would have required a Seaman's Ticket, the record of which would show whether he did serve as an apprentice." Ruth -----Original Message----- From: northumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:northumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ruth Appleby via Sent: 03 November 2014 07:14 To: Gwyneth Watson User; northumbria@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NMB] Skeffington DODDS / 2nd Mate An apprenticeship would have to be paid for and, given the relationship with his family, this route is unlikely. However, he would have required a Seaman's Ticket,not he record of which would show whether he did serve as an apprentice. Not all seamen did, and "learned the ropes" the hard way. Ruth Sent from my iPad > On 3 Nov 2014, at 03:58, Gwyneth Watson User via <northumbria@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hello, > > Skeffington received his Certificate of Competency as 2nd Mate on the > 25 May 1860 aged 23yrs. I don't think he obtained any other > qualification except sailing the 7 seas for the rest of his life, > spending time in unbelievable places enduring sickness and many > shipwrecks. He was also in New Zealand for a few years. > > I am wondering if sks knows what he would have done to reach this > service wise, study etc. Would he have served an apprenticeship with > any specific ship/captain? > > His father Matthew Dodds and Grandfather John had shares in shipping > though it wasn't what Matthew had planned for him, being the eldest > son, and they were estranged for many years. > > Cheers Gwyneth > Sydney > > > .. > Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please introduce yourself at the top of every post. > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at > http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message .. Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please introduce yourself at the top of every post. The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message