Son of Thomas WIGHAM and Alice ALLAN of Gateshead, born June 1/4 1818 at Gateshead. William married Margaret MacDonald at the Newcastle upon Tyne Registry Office 9 August 1841. They immigrated to New York, leaving Newcastle on the Sarah & Arsilia and arrived in New York 25 October 1842 along with Lancelot Armstrong a mason and Thomas McNair a blacksmith. William's died in New York on 9 July 1846. I found his death in the New York newspaper index Barber Collection. To date I haven't been able to find out what happened to Margaret. Is anyone on the list researching this WIGHAM family please? Cheers, Diane New Zealand

Diane: I suspect you will get a better response to your message if you ask a specific question. After all, the answer to what you have asked could well be "Yes" or "No", neither of which would tell you anything worth knowing! As for myself, although my answer is "No, not me", I do know that Thomas Wigham and Alice ("Allice") Allan married at Gateshead St Mary's on 2 September 1815. If you look at the BTs for Durham Diocese on the Mormon "FamilySearch" web site you should be able to see a facsimile of the Bishop's Transcript for that marriage. I haven't looked at it (yet) so I'll leave that pleasure for you. I don't know what extra details it will give, but be warned that they will not be anything like what you would get from a post- 1 July 1837 marriage entry. You should find out, however, whether the wedding was after the calling of Banns or whether it was by Licence. You may also be told that they were bachelor and spinster, or perhaps one or both of them was a widow(er). If either was from another parish you should be told which parish that was, or whether they were "both of this parish". You should also get the names of two witnesses, one of whom might be the parish clerk, a "regular", so check other marriages from around that time to see whether he witnessed most of them. St Mary's is the mediaeval parish church of Gateshead. It was to survive serious damage in the "Great Fire and Explosion" of 1854 but when the population moved away from the town centre in the mid-20th century it became redundant and after another serious fire became for a few years a fine art auction room before being taken over by Gateshead Council for use as a Heritage Centre. I, and no doubt others on the List have attended a variety of events, exhibitions, courses, conferences etc there - on the very spots where the weddings and baptisms concerned took place! Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: Diane Taylor via <northumbria@rootsweb.com> To: northumbria <northumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:59 Subject: [NMB] William Wigham Son of Thomas WIGHAM and Alice ALLAN of Gateshead, born June 1/4 1818 at Gateshead. William married Margaret MacDonald at the Newcastle upon Tyne Registry Office 9 August 1841. They immigrated to New York, leaving Newcastle on the Sarah & Arsilia and arrived in New York 25 October 1842 along with Lancelot Armstrong a mason and Thomas McNair a blacksmith. William's died in New York on 9 July 1846. I found his death in the New York newspaper index Barber Collection. To date I haven't been able to find out what happened to Margaret. Is anyone on the list researching this WIGHAM family please? Cheers, Diane New Zealand .. Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please introduce yourself at the top of every post. The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Sorry Dave, although I don't make any comments on the list (I'm fairly new to family tracing, & I was born in Sunderland 70+ years ago, & my family were from there & Newcastle & area), I do read the emails that are posted (I find them very informative) I didn't recognize your name. & with all the scammers around these days (I'm not for one moment suggesting your one) (too bad they can't find more useful things to do with their time) I wasn't sure. Again, sorry. Regards, Malcolm Campbell > From: dave_h_king123456789@hotmail.com > I can confirm that I am a real person and the three or four recent mails providing links to chancery decrees are genuine,

On 18/02/2015 21:26, Dave King via wrote: > I should perhaps mention that I only post some of those related to N & D > which come up in the current indexing project, and it might be worth noting > that the full set can be accessed from > http://www.uh.edu/waalt/index.php/Main_Page . Dave I'm getting a bit concerned over copyright issues here. Systematically publishing several of these extracts is probably over the top and may well annoy the University of Houston authorities. In addition, your posts will, at best, only be of direct interest to a tiny number of subscribers, and may well become annoying to the majority. We really appreciate being told about this useful resource, but please stop posting your extracts to the list. Brian -- Brian Pears (Gateshead)

Hi All, I am in need of some help an experience! According to both the 1841 and 1851 census and they where beneficiaries of Joseph Gibson's will and mentioned as his aunts and presumably daughters of James Gibson (his Parents, Robert Gibson and Elizabeth Allison) . Jane (Gibson) Nettleship born abt. 1789/90 Thrunton, Whittingham . Leah Gibson born abt. 1797, Whittingham More children are "missing" as the oldest James Gibson was already born in 1779 a year after his parents' marriage- 10 years before Jane and Jane 10 before Leah? Is it possible that these children and others were baptised in the vicinity due to the fact that Thrunton did not have a Anglican/Presbyterian church other family relationships? Kind regards, Albie Gibson South Africa

Hello Malcolm, I can confirm that I am a real person and the three or four recent mails providing links to chancery decrees are genuine, I have not sent any others recently, so if you are receiving mails daily then I can't say where they are coming from Dave > On 18 Feb 2015, at 21:57, MALCOLM CAMPBELL via <northumbria@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi, Almost daily they are emails on our list from a "Dave King", they are not directed to anyone, are these legitimate or spam. Thanks. M/C > > .. > Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please introduce yourself at the top of every post. > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

These are OK Malcolm. Dave's mailings have been very useful. Ruth Sent from my iPhone > On 18 Feb 2015, at 21:58, "MALCOLM CAMPBELL via" <northumbria@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi, Almost daily they are emails on our list from a "Dave King", they are not directed to anyone, are these legitimate or spam. Thanks. M/C > > .. > Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please introduce yourself at the top of every post. > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Almost daily they are emails on our list from a "Dave King", they are not directed to anyone, are these legitimate or spam. Thanks. M/C

C 78/1381 no.1: Charles, Earl of Carlisle; The Masters and Scholars of Baliol College in Oxford; Ralph Clarke; and Deborah Potts and Nathaniel Ogle for and on behalf of Isabella Newton widow and the said Isabella Newton and also William Shippen and Frances his wife and Dorothy Stote spinster which said Frances and Dorothy together with the deft Margaret Tonge were the only sisters of and coheirs of Bertram Stote decd who was the only son and heir of Sir Richard Stote decd v Nathaniel, Lord Crewe, Lord Bishop of Durham; John Tonge clerk and Mary his wife This decree provides details of the partitioning of the Longbenton estate which had formerly belonged to Sir Richard Stote. The portion which went to Dorothy Stote later passed to the Wilson family, and on it was built a hall called Forest Hall, and which in turn led to the naming of Forest Hall village. http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT7/C78/C78no1381/IMG_0541.htm I should perhaps mention that I only post some of those related to N & D which come up in the current indexing project, and it might be worth noting that the full set can be accessed from http://www.uh.edu/waalt/index.php/Main_Page . Dave

I really must thank Dave King for providing the link to these wonderful images. Through them I have found several documents from the 16th century which have solved a number of mysteries, and created several others! Thanks Dave! Are you still chasing the Musgraves and Porritts? Ruth Appleby > -----Original Message----- > From: northumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:northumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dave King via > Sent: 15 February 2015 17:38 > To: northumbria@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NMB] Images of chancery decrees.. > > The following are of relevance to Northd & Durham, and images > freely available on the AALT site: > > > > C78/1380, no. 2: > http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT7/C78/C78no1380/IMG_0398.htm

William Skipsey; John Burne; Clement Trumble; Anthony Wilkinson; John Smyth; William Browell; Robert Saburne; Ralph Rookesby; William Atkinson; John Duxfield; Llane Allen; Anthony Oliver; Richard Burne; George Duxfield; Cuthbert Humphrey; and Ruhama Moore widow, all of Seaton Delaval, Northumb v John Blackett son and executor of Sir Edward Blackett decd. Rights to the tythes due from the tenants of the Seaton Delaval estate. Complts were tenants of that estate, formerly from Sir Ralph Delavall late of Seaton Delaval, and latterly from his widow Dame Diana and her second husband Sir Edward Blackett. C78/1380, no. 6: http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT7/C78/C78no1380/IMG_0309.htm Dave

The following are of relevance to Northd & Durham, and images freely available on the AALT site: C78/1380, no. 2: http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT7/C78/C78no1380/IMG_0398.htm 1722, Sir John Clavering of Axwells, Co. Dur and Dame Jane his wife v William Jemson; Peter Potto; Ralph Jemson; and Henry Jemson. Mortgage by Henry Jemson late of Newcastle upon Tyne decd of a messuage in a street called Westgate, and another rebuilt messuage adjoining, in Newcastle upon Tyne. C78/1380, no. 1: http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT7/C78/C78no1380/IMG_0406.htm 1721, Elizabeth Ord spinster the ... and sole executrix of Elizabeth Ord decd and also William Ord als Blackett and Elizabeth Ord als Blackett the children of the said Elziabeth Ord the testatrix, infants by the first named Elizabeth Ord v Sir William Blackett; William Thompson and Dame Julia his wife; Eliza Blackett; Isabella Blackett; Diana Blackett; Anne Blackett; William Davison; John Wilkinson; Sir Walter Calverley and Dame Julia his wife; and Frances Blackett. Estate of Elizabeth Ord decd. Ref to decree of 9 Feb 1 George. Dave

On 12/02/2015 19:07, Brian Snaith via wrote: > > http://xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/zemxrbb/ > This looks like a very dodgy link - Please don't click it. I hope I don't need to remind anyone that you should never click on links in e-mail messages without knowing exactly where the link is pointing. -- Brian Pears Joint Admin NORTHUMBRIA Mailing List GENUKI Maintainer for Northumberland

Hi Helen Thank you so much for your reply and all the information you sent me Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen via" <northumbria@rootsweb.com> To: <northumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [NMB] 1911 CENSUS > On 11/02/2015 15:14, Janet Hasler via wrote: >> Hi >> I wonder if anyone could help me I am trying to find the 1911 census for >> a >> WILLIAM HARDING D.O.B. 1871 NORTHUMBERLAND married to >> ELIZABETH HARDING D.OB.1868 NORTHUMBERLAND nee MOODY >> They married 1897 NORTHUMBERLAND. >> I have found them on the 1901 census living in JESMOND NORTHUMBERLAND >> they have a daughter WINEFRED D.O.B.1899 born in NEWCASTLE.I have been >> told she died in 1904. >> I also believe that WILLIAM and ELIZABETH went on to have 3 more children >> between 1906-1911. >> If I can find the 1911 census it would help me confirm some of the above. >> Thank you to anyone who may be able to help me. >> Jan >> .. >> Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please >> introduce yourself at the top of every post. >> >> The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at >> http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Hi Janet > > RG14PN30571 RG78PN1752 RD558 SD2 ED14 SN246 > > William HARDING hd 40 cartwright > Elizabeth " 40 wife > Henry " 4 son > Wm. Alexander Harding 2 son > > all born Newcastle NBL > > married 13 yrs, 4 children - 2 died. Living in 4 rooms at 35 Lavender > Gdns , Jesmond, Newcastle Upon Tyne. > > -- > Helen Oram > > .. > Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please > introduce yourself at the top of every post. > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at > http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you to everyone who replied and the information on the Harding family Jan

I am searching for the Oliver family, in 1815 John Oliver was a publican at Wallhouses, Matfen, the only public house I can find is the Robin Hood Inn, If possible could SKS look up the census in 1841 and see if they were still there then. Many thanks Paul

Janet, I had a quick look at the 1911 census website. It is a commercial site, and you will have to pay if you would like full details. Both William and Elizabeth appear, with Newcastle upon Tyne as their place of residence. Winifred did not appear, which reinforces the possibility of her early death. Regards, Russ -----Original Message----- From: northumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:northumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janet Hasler via Sent: 11 February 2015 15:14 To: northumbria@rootsweb.com Subject: [NMB] 1911 CENSUS Hi I wonder if anyone could help me I am trying to find the 1911 census for a WILLIAM HARDING D.O.B. 1871 NORTHUMBERLAND married to ELIZABETH HARDING D.OB.1868 NORTHUMBERLAND nee MOODY They married 1897 NORTHUMBERLAND. I have found them on the 1901 census living in JESMOND NORTHUMBERLAND they have a daughter WINEFRED D.O.B.1899 born in NEWCASTLE.I have been told she died in 1904. I also believe that WILLIAM and ELIZABETH went on to have 3 more children between 1906-1911. If I can find the 1911 census it would help me confirm some of the above. Thank you to anyone who may be able to help me. Jan .. Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please introduce yourself at the top of every post. The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 11/02/2015 15:14, Janet Hasler via wrote: > Hi > I wonder if anyone could help me I am trying to find the 1911 census for a > WILLIAM HARDING D.O.B. 1871 NORTHUMBERLAND married to > ELIZABETH HARDING D.OB.1868 NORTHUMBERLAND nee MOODY > They married 1897 NORTHUMBERLAND. > I have found them on the 1901 census living in JESMOND NORTHUMBERLAND they have a daughter WINEFRED D.O.B.1899 born in NEWCASTLE.I have been told she died in 1904. > I also believe that WILLIAM and ELIZABETH went on to have 3 more children between 1906-1911. > If I can find the 1911 census it would help me confirm some of the above. > Thank you to anyone who may be able to help me. > Jan > .. > Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please introduce yourself at the top of every post. > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Hi Janet RG14PN30571 RG78PN1752 RD558 SD2 ED14 SN246 William HARDING hd 40 cartwright Elizabeth " 40 wife Henry " 4 son Wm. Alexander Harding 2 son all born Newcastle NBL married 13 yrs, 4 children - 2 died. Living in 4 rooms at 35 Lavender Gdns , Jesmond, Newcastle Upon Tyne. -- Helen Oram

Hi I wonder if anyone could help me I am trying to find the 1911 census for a WILLIAM HARDING D.O.B. 1871 NORTHUMBERLAND married to ELIZABETH HARDING D.OB.1868 NORTHUMBERLAND nee MOODY They married 1897 NORTHUMBERLAND. I have found them on the 1901 census living in JESMOND NORTHUMBERLAND they have a daughter WINEFRED D.O.B.1899 born in NEWCASTLE.I have been told she died in 1904. I also believe that WILLIAM and ELIZABETH went on to have 3 more children between 1906-1911. If I can find the 1911 census it would help me confirm some of the above. Thank you to anyone who may be able to help me. Jan

Paul: Given the rate at which people tended to move around in the early 19th century, 1841 is quite a long time after 1815 for them to still be there. In fact the 1841 census shows all those with the address of Wallhouses to be farmers, ag labs etc, with no mention of anyone being a publican, innkeeper, etc. I have a copy of the index published on microfiche by Northumberland Record Office in 1997, of "Ale House Recognizances 1822-1826". These were the early form of what amounted to public house licences. There may be more detail in the original documents but all there is in the index is "John Oliver, Board, Wallhouses". Perhaps that is your source for knowing he was there at all, but perhaps it is another confirmation of that. What we are not told, of course, is the precise date when John Oliver's licence was granted, or indeed when he gave it up, and why he did so (because he had died?). If you are not familiar with this region you may not know that the Robin Hood has had a chequered career over the last few decades. First an owner over-expanded it by adding a large dining room - but the recession before this, plus the breathalyser plus the ever-increasing price of drinks meant he had few customers and had to close down. The building stood empty a long time before opening under the control of, I was told, the Official Receiver. I don't know whether that is still the case but I think it was bought a few years ago after another period of closure, and is currently doing well as a pub, though I don't know about the restaurant. It seems to have done well out of the creation a few years ago of the "Hadrian's Wall Path" which means those wishing to walk the length of the Wall can do so via field paths and don't need to risk their lives walking along the busy road: more passing hikers means more stop for a drink. The Robin Hood is the only pub on the line of the Wall between Heddon on the Wall and Portgate, some 10 miles or thereabouts. Another "Hadrian's Wall" related point is that sitting on the north side of the site of the Wall, the Robin Hood's cellars must be on top of the ditch which was there to help dissuade attackers. Not far away the remains of that ditch still make a large, vegetation-covered feature, near and parallel to the road. I often wonder whether the ease of incorporating it into the cellars was a factor in deciding where the pub should be put! One reason I mention the Robin Hood at length is that a first cousin once removed worked there as a barmaid, also a few years ago. Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: Paul Hood via <northumbria@rootsweb.com> To: northumbria <northumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 15:52 Subject: [NMB] Wallhouses I am searching for the Oliver family, in 1815 John Oliver was a publican at Wallhouses, Matfen, the only public house I can find is the Robin Hood Inn, If possible could SKS look up the census in 1841 and see if they were still there then. Many thanks Paul .. Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please introduce yourself at the top of every post. The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message