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Good morning Can someone please help me with the John Oldroyd Gibson, architect 1891 and grandson of John Oldroyd. He was still alive in 1894, signing the probate of his stepfather John Tyzack Hedley and then disappears and no death date found? Albie Gibson

Albie: The obvious place to look is FreeBMD, which covers deaths anywhere in England or Wales. Perhaps you have already done that but in case you haven't, I have done so. Your problem is that there will be just too many John Gibsons for anyone to make any sense of them all, so I have limited my search to death registrations for John O Gibson, of which there would not be many. In fact I found only four, with ages corresponding to births in 1923/24, 1875/76, 1870/71 and another 1875/76. I strongly suspect that, allowing for ages as recorded in various documents, including death registrations, to be often a year or two out, the one apparently born in 1870/71 may well be the one you want. That is John O Gibson who died somewhere in the Essex SW Registration District at some time during the June Quarter of 1957, aged 86 - according to his death certificate on which the age would be as reported by whoever registered the death and who may not have known exactly how old he was. I would recommend you to obtain the death certificate, either from the local (Essex SW) registrar or from the Family Records Centre in London (ref 5a 157 for this but not for the local registrar) and see what his occupation is given as. At 86 or thereabouts he would surely have been retired, but from what occupation? "Retired architect" would help a lot! In case this is unsatisfactory or you don't think it worth following up, as he may have died abroad, you might get somewhere by enquiring at the RIBA (Royal Institution of British Architects). I don't know what records they keep but they might just have a note, if he was a member, of where and when he died. If, however, he died abroad, then perhaps the Consular returns, which produce similar indexes to the GRO ones but are not included in FreeBMD, might help. If he was a highly prominent architect, then perhaps you will find him in "Who's Who" during his life and in "Who was Who" after his death. Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: Albie via <northumbria@rootsweb.com> To: northumbria <northumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, 4 Apr 2015 8:25 Subject: [NMB] John Oldroyd Gibson (1869-?) South Shields Good morning Can someone please help me with the John Oldroyd Gibson, architect 1891 and grandson of John Oldroyd. He was still alive in 1894, signing the probate of his stepfather John Tyzack Hedley and then disappears and no death date found? Albie Gibson .. Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please introduce yourself at the top of every post. The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone suggest where people living in Grange Villa at the turn of the 20th C would be buried Thanks Sue Horsman

Sorry, Wally. My Andersons come from Latvia with no connection to Britain at all. Good luck with your ancestor hunt. Royalene, Australia.

Sue: While Kirsten's suggestions are both good ones, it may depend on what their religion was and/or how strongly they, or their family, held to it. Pelton churchyard would be a possibility, especially if they were C of E, but otherwise I would have thought it would be Chester le Street Cemetery, rather than one at Stanley, which would be used. This is because Grange Villa/Pelton was originally part of Chester le Street parish and so would probably still have come under Chester le Street Urban (or Rural) District. Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: Kirsten Nielsen via <northumbria@rootsweb.com> To: S Horsman <horsman61@btinternet.com>; northumbria <northumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, 3 Apr 2015 12:48 Subject: Re: [NMB] Grange Villa Burials Wouldn't they be in West Pelton or perhaps East Stanley? Kirsten On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 8:02 AM, S Horsman via <northumbria@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Can anyone suggest where people living in Grange Villa at the turn of the > 20th C would be buried > > > Thanks > Sue Horsman > > > .. > Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please > introduce yourself at the top of every post. > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at > http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > .. Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please introduce yourself at the top of every post. The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Wouldn't they be in West Pelton or perhaps East Stanley? Kirsten On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 8:02 AM, S Horsman via <northumbria@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Can anyone suggest where people living in Grange Villa at the turn of the > 20th C would be buried > > > Thanks > Sue Horsman > > > .. > Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please > introduce yourself at the top of every post. > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at > http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Wally: I see, from my own database, that a John and Elizabeth Anderson did indeed have two children, Ann and John, baptised at Doddington on 14 October 1771. However, this is a baptism entry so I see no reason (from what I have: you may have more detailed information of course) to assume they were both born in that year, or that they were twins. It is possible one was a "delayed baptism" which, for one reason or another, possibly just from pure inertia, had been put off until another baby arrived. Perhaps even more important, are you sure the parents were the same John and Elizabeth Anderson? John Anderson was, and probably still is, a very common name in Northumberland, and many John Andersons will have been married to an Elizabeth. You may already know that this couple (I assume it was the same one!) also had another child, Adam Anderson, baptised at Doddington on 19 June 1774. That indicates a stay there for at least three years, which may make it worthwhile looking at any other Doddington records you can find for that period. Remember that it was - and in theory at least, still is - the tradition that a wedding takes place in the parish of the bride, which implies that Elizabeth was living in Longhoughton in 1768, but not necessarily John, who may have been from Doddington all along. Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: drewa via <northumbria@rootsweb.com> To: Genealogy <northumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 22:58 Subject: [NMB] Andersons I am Wally Anderson of Alberta Can. I am trying to find Ancestor births of John Anderson & Elizabeth Palaster who were married in Longhoughton on 2nd of Aug 1768 [ John had twins born in 1771 in Doddington ] Wally Anderson .. Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please introduce yourself at the top of every post. The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am Wally Anderson of Alberta Can. I am trying to find Ancestor births of John Anderson & Elizabeth Palaster who were married in Longhoughton on 2nd of Aug 1768 [ John had twins born in 1771 in Doddington ] Wally Anderson

OK, from freeBMD Andrew Raine m. Annie Charters, Sep Q 1912 in Hexham district, 10b753. Ann I. Raine was born to mother of maiden name Charters in Hexham in Dec Q 1912, 10B723. Catherine Raine born Dec Q 1915 Gateshead 10A2338 with mother nee Charters. I am confused about which Catherine you are asking. Regards Graham On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 15:51:48 +1300, Eileen Chapman via <northumbria@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Good afternoon from New Zealand > > I am new to this list and hoping someone can help me out on the name of > Raine/Rainey > My relative was Catherine Raine born 1915 to parents Andrew and Catherine > nee Charters. > Andrews parents James Rainey and Catherine married Sep q 1912 Hexham, > Northumberland, England ,I have checked Ancestry and free BDM and found... > 2 Catherines both the same quarter, different surnames is there a way of > finding the marriage which would help me? > > Thanks you for your help > Eileen

Hello Eileen from Kerikeri, Um, I am confused by the names. Catherine1's parents were Andrew and Catherine nee Charters? Andrew's parents were James and Catherine3? Catherine1 born 1915 but James and Catherine3 maried 1912, which seems too late by a generation. Dates and names are not tying up for me. I can't find any Raine(y) or Charters marriage in Hexham on Free BMD UK between Mar 1910 and Dec 1915. Am I missing something here? Regards Graham n On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 15:51:48 +1300, Eileen Chapman via <northumbria@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Good afternoon from New Zealand > > I am new to this list and hoping someone can help me out on the name of > Raine/Rainey > My relative was Catherine Raine born 1915 to parents Andrew and Catherine > nee Charters. > Andrews parents James Rainey and Catherine married Sep q 1912 Hexham, > Northumberland, England ,I have checked Ancestry and free BDM and found... > 2 Catherines both the same quarter, different surnames is there a way of > finding the marriage which would help me? > > Thanks you for your help > Eileen > > .. > Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please > introduce yourself at the top of every post. > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at > http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good afternoon from New Zealand I am new to this list and hoping someone can help me out on the name of Raine/Rainey My relative was Catherine Raine born 1915 to parents Andrew and Catherine nee Charters. Andrews parents James Rainey and Catherine married Sep q 1912 Hexham, Northumberland, England ,I have checked Ancestry and free BDM and found... 2 Catherines both the same quarter, different surnames is there a way of finding the marriage which would help me? Thanks you for your help Eileen

On 23/03/2015 10:01, Hazel Goodman via wrote: > Surname First name(s) District Vol Page> Marriages Jun 1878 (>99%)> Chasteney Robert Tynemouth 10b 249 Scan available - click to view> Dunleary Catherine Tynemouth 10b 249 Scan available - click to view> GILHESPIE Catherine Tynemouth 10b 249 Scan available - click to view> RAINEY James Tynemouth 10b 249 Scan available - click to view If this needs further detail North Tyneside has put registration details online at http://www.northtyneside.gov.uk/marriage-register.shtml Alan Middlemass County Durham, UK

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Hi I have this name way back in my family living in Sunderland or nearby, mine was Elizabeth Raine who married Thomas Gregson, there were cousins with their forename 'Rain' boys that is but I don't know a lot about them. Fran

I apologise for sending my last email to the list by mistake. I shall try to be more careful in future! David Scott.

Eileen: Without commenting on the information you have given (which does need correction in some way or other!), I can say that, in general, the surname Raine seems to have been centred, up to the early 19th century, in upper Teesdale, especially in and around the parish of Romaldkirk. Romaldkirk is a lovely little village, close to the south bank of the Tees, and one of those which were originally part of the North Riding of Yorkshire but which became part of Co Durham in 1974. Unfortunately there were so many Raines in that parish that it is very difficult to sort out which family each belonged to. The parish registers show that getting on for 50% of the population were once called Raine! They gradually spread out from there, in all directions - my own great great grandmother, Ann Raine, lived near Penrith in Cumberland, her family having left Romaldkirk and settled first as village blacksmiths in Garrigill, a village even smaller and more remote than Romaldkirk, before crossing the Pennines, after which Ann eventually married Martin Nicholson, my great great grandfather. Don't worry about spelling variations. Rain, Raine, Rayne and Rainey are all "par for the course". Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: Eileen Chapman via <northumbria@rootsweb.com> To: NORTHUMBRIA <NORTHUMBRIA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 2:56 Subject: [NMB] RAINE/RAINEY Good afternoon from New Zealand I am new to this list and hoping someone can help me out on the name of Raine/Rainey My relative was Catherine Raine born 1915 to parents Andrew and Catherine nee Charters. Andrews parents James Rainey and Catherine married Sep q 1912 Hexham, Northumberland, England ,I have checked Ancestry and free BDM and found... 2 Catherines both the same quarter, different surnames is there a way of finding the marriage which would help me? Thanks you for your help Eileen .. Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please introduce yourself at the top of every post. The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Clifford, Thank you for your email. I am writing off list because, I suppose, my query about Ernest and Cuthbert Vaux is a little unusual. On the website "Sunderland Soldiers" Ernest gives his place of education as "The college for the blind sons of Gentlemen" which was, and still is, in Worcester, though its name has changed. Indeed, he is shown as being at the school, aged 16 in the 1881 Census, and he is listed (although with only the initial E) in the list of students who went to the College. The entry above him is "Vaux, C.), and I believe this to be Cuthbert, but have no proof. My interest, as the College they went to is celebrating its 150th anniversary next year, is to try to discover why they went to the College. The co-founder and first Headmaster was a Robert Hugh Blair who came from Co. Durham, and the second headmaster, Samuel Strong Forster, came from Durham City, where his mother was a spirit merchant. In the first twenty years of the College, sighted boys were encouraged to have their education there for two reasons: First, as Braille had not been adopted as the best medium for blind people, and there were as many as sixteen different forms of embossed type which were available (but only Braille could be written as well as read), and remarkably few books were available in any of the formats, sighted youngsters were needed to help the blind students. Secondly, much of the pressure of guiding and other ways that blind people needed some sight available to make life more interesting. So my reason for posing the problem was to try and ascertain whether it was Ernest's brother, Cuthbert, who went to the school, and which of the links was the reason for their going to a school so far away from their home. Sorry to have gone on a bit, but I hope it is not uninteresting. David Scott. -----Original Message----- From: CliffordAlls via - Email Address: northumbria@rootsweb.com Sent On: 22/03/2015 00:29 Sent To: northumbria@rootsweb.com - Email Address: northumbria@rootsweb.com subject: Re: [NMB] Cuthbert and Ernest Vaux There is a mass of information about the VAUX family at http://ghgraham.org/cuthbertvaux1813.html This is a free genealogical site run by a man in Florida called George Graham. You can browse the family structure by using the hyperlinks there and by reference to the site index. This site began when George was inspired by his connection to the THOMPSON shipbuilding family on the Wear. It has expanded far beyond that now but at its core is a marvellous resource for Northumbrian genealogy. George welcomes pictures, so if anyone has some to share with him I am sure he would be delighted. His contact details are on the home page. Clifford Allison. .. Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please introduce yourself at the top of every post. The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message