Aaron Hill wrote: > Are there any passenger list resources available for those who left northern England for the colonies in North America > (the future United States) before 1763? Aaron None that I'm aware of. Brian -- Brian Pears (Gateshead, UK) http://www.bpears.org.uk/ Joint List Admin NORTHUMBRIA Genealogy Mailing List GENUKI Northumberland Maintainer

Are there any passenger list resources available for those who left northern England for the colonies in North America (the future United States) before 1763? — Aaron _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/

Heather, A stylish letter "N" for "not in this county". Michael Dixon

Could someone with access to the 1841 census look at the entry for Joseph FORSTER and his family in Newcastle St Andrew on the 1841 CENSUS HO 107 Piece 847 Bk 4 ED 9 Folio 24 p 2 line 8 I am trying to decide where the enumerator thinks these people were born. Thanks very much Heather

G'day listers, My name is Ross Wilson. I live in Broadwater NSW, I previously lived in Sydney when first on this list in 2000 - 2002. I am rejoining this list after a long absence & I would like to reintroduce myself & state my research areas. G'day to Brian Pears, Harry Coxon & other long timers on this list. My great grand parents were William Hindhaugh WILSON born 12 February 1881 at North Seaton Colliery, Northumberland, (His twin brother was John Scott WILSON) and Catherine WILLIS born 24 December 1884 at Newbiggin, Morpeth, Northumberland. They were married at Woodhorn Parish Church on 16 November 1905. They migrated to Australia in 1912 with my grandfather John WILSON born 15 August 1906 (then 6 years old). After staying in Balmain NSW for a short period of time they settled in Kurri Kurri NSW. After arriving in Kurri Kurri they had 2 girls Nora & Evelyn. My great great grand parents were Edward WILSON born 4 November 1846 at Bigges Main, Long Benton, Northumberland & Mary BEAL born 1 March 1848 at Longhirst, Bedlington, Northumberland. They were married at Woodhorn Parish Church on 3 November 1870. They are both buried at Woodhorn Parish Church. My great great great grand parents were Edward Wilson unknown birth date and Mary Hall unknown birth date. They were married at All Saints Church Newcastle on 21 May 1836. All dates above are confirmed by either BDM's or parish records from Morpeth. Does this relate to any research being conducted by anyone else?? I have more family history to share. Regards Ross WILSON

In a message dated 04/10/2009 16:56:26 GMT Daylight Time, NEGenealogy@aol.com writes: Horton is one parish; Bedlington is another. They each have/had their own Parish Church and neither parish "comes under" or includes the other. If I can add a little more about this topic, which began as a series of comments about the BTs, the BTs of Bedlington - the actual original BTs, now in Durham University Library, that is, and not necessarily the computerised scans, put on line or otherwise, by the LDS - cover the period 1760 to 1858, with gaps. Those of Horton cover 1762 to 1856 with gaps. That information is taken from the National Index of Parish Registers, Vol XI, Part 1, by Charles Neat and revised by Don Mason (Society of Genealogists, 1984). The National Index also mentions what I had forgotten, that is that Horton was originally a Parochial Chapelry of Woodhorn, from which it is separated by Bedlington parish. Other Parochial Chapelries of Woodhorn, before they became fully-fledged parishes in their own right, were Widdrington and Newbiggin, both of which are adjacent to Woodhorn parish. Geoff Nicholson

Thanks to everyone for the ideas for the location of Beckington, and Janis -- you're amazing! I've been fiddling around with this for a while. Should have come straight to the list. Pamela

Thanks Janis, that has blown that one right out of the water then, certainly my family were baptized at Horton which must have been another parish in the Bedlington Area. Marg --- On Sun, 4/10/09, Janis Noonan <2zpool@charter.net> wrote: > From: Janis Noonan <2zpool@charter.net> > Subject: Re: [NMB] Bishops Transcripts > To: northumbria@rootsweb.com > Date: Sunday, 4 October, 2009, 3:27 PM > I suppose a person who was born in > Bedlington could travel to Horton but > there was a church in Bedlington - St. Cuthberts--that has > records starting > from 1653. > > Janis > > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Marg, I think you have correctly sited Horton Parish, west of modern day Blyth, but it is on Horton Road ( not Bedlington Road- is there such a road called Bedlington Road ? ) and it is near a pub, called the Three Horse Shoes. But as Listers have pointed out, Bedlington and Horton were two separate but neighbouring parishes. The two churches (Horton, dedicated to St Mary the Virgin, "born" out of Woodhorn Parish, and Bedlington, dedicated to St Cuthbert) were only about 2 miles apart. The boundary between Bedlington Parish and Horton Parish was marked by the River Blyth, with Bedlington on the north side. And up to 1844 this parish boundary was also a county boundary Northumberland and Durham. In some parts of rural Northumberland, in an attempt to save shoe leather, etc., some folk might have been persuaded to use the "wrong" parish church because it was nearer than the church of their home parish. But I do not think there is any point within the territory of Bedlington Parish that is nearer to Horton church than Bedlington Church. Modern Trivia.......About two/three years ago, housebuilder erected apartments on the site of Bebside Hall, corner of Horton Road ( Road b1505) and Bebside Road.(A193), about half a mile north of Horton church. The hording/billboard erroneously advertised the site as Bedlington... in old terms the site was in the Bebside Township of Horton Parish, in modern terms it lay in the ward of Bebside within Blyth Valley District. It was thought that Bedlington houses could demand higher prices than Bebside houses- and maybe true. These homes are now advertised as in Bebside... maybe restless natives persuaded a correction ? Michael Dixon

KEN WHITE wrote: > Sorry Mike, they are under Horton in Northumberland,I have confused you with the mis-spelling > > Marg > > --- On Wed, 30/9/09, Fairless, Michael <michael.fairless@eds.com> wrote: > > >> From: Fairless, Michael <michael.fairless@eds.com> >> Subject: Re: [NMB] Bishops Transcripts >> To: northumbria@rootsweb.com >> Date: Wednesday, 30 September, 2009, 4:33 PM >> Many thanks >> Bur what I am searching for are the Bishops Transcripts for >> the parish >> of Bedlington. The other parishes in Northumberland are >> there on the >> FamilySearch site but there is no entry for Bedlington. >> >> Mike Fairless >> >> >> I too have looked for the Bedlington Bishops Transcripts with out success. I have looked in the Horton, Northumberland scans but have not found any entry for Bedlington. Have I missed something or are you sure they are under Horton, Northumberland. Regards Ian

Following on from discussions on Bishops Transcripts, I am wondering if Bolam Northumberland is included, possibly within another parish Hopefully Delia

I think I said this before but Horton parish church is the parish church for Bedlington, it stands just off the roundabout from Blyth to Bedlington near to the Shoes Pub but on the Bedlington Road, a very pretty little church standing alone and the transcripts are certainly under Horton, Northumberland. It could be that the page that you want is missing as is the case with the Bishops Transcripts, much better to go up to the Northumberland Records office at Woodhorn and look at the microfilms which should be complete if indeed the records survive. Marg --- On Sun, 4/10/09, Ian Patterson <ian.patterson@bredband.net> wrote: > From: Ian Patterson <ian.patterson@bredband.net> > Subject: Re: [NMB] Bishops Transcripts > To: northumbria@rootsweb.com > Date: Sunday, 4 October, 2009, 2:03 PM > KEN WHITE wrote: > > Sorry Mike, they are under Horton in Northumberland,I > have confused you with the mis-spelling > > > > Marg > > > > --- On Wed, 30/9/09, Fairless, Michael <michael.fairless@eds.com> > wrote: > > > >    > >> From: Fairless, Michael <michael.fairless@eds.com> > >> Subject: Re: [NMB] Bishops Transcripts > >> To: northumbria@rootsweb.com > >> Date: Wednesday, 30 September, 2009, 4:33 PM > >> Many thanks > >> Bur what I am searching for are the Bishops > Transcripts for > >> the parish > >> of Bedlington. The other parishes in > Northumberland are > >> there on the > >> FamilySearch site but there is no entry for > Bedlington. > >> > >> Mike Fairless > >>  > >> > >>      > I too have looked for the Bedlington Bishops Transcripts > with out > success. I have looked in the Horton, Northumberland scans > but have not > found any entry for Bedlington. Have I missed something or > are you sure > they are under Horton, Northumberland. > Regards > Ian > > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

In a message dated 04/10/2009 14:59:03 GMT Daylight Time, kenmar.white@btopenworld.com writes: I think I said this before but Horton parish church is the parish church for Bedlington Marg: Yes, you have said this before - and when you did I responded by saying you were wrong! Horton is one parish; Bedlington is another. They each have/had their own Parish Church and neither parish "comes under" or includes the other. It is said that when the monks first fled the viking raids on Holy Island, taking with them the coffin of St Cuthbert, they paused at Bedlington on their journey south. For that reason the parish of Bedlington became part of the possessions of the monks, which eventually went into the county of Durham,, where Bedlington remained until the mid-1840s. At that time, Horton probably did not even exist. Geoff Nicholson

I suppose a person who was born in Bedlington could travel to Horton but there was a church in Bedlington - St. Cuthberts--that has records starting from 1653. Janis

Hello listers. is anyone researching the JACKSON families of Haltwhistle and Lambley parishes who appear to have mostly been farmers who in the 1800s became miners, but may have still been part time farmers as there where about three generation's of miners living at Moss Cottage, Lambley which is listed as a farm in the Northumberland Farms Index. I would love to swap notes and discuss research with anyone who is researching the same families. Cheers. Wilf

Pamela It could be Bedlington Northumberland which was in Co Durham in the years you mention Fen Gales ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pamela Robson" <pamela@robson-dixon.com> To: <northumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 4:15 AM Subject: [NMB] Location of Beckington > Dear List, > > > > Has anyone any idea where Beckington, Durham was/is? > > > > I am searching a family living at Amble, Northumberland. They are David > Hall (born Pateley Bridge, Yorks about 1805) and his wife Ann (born East > Witton, Yorks about 1807). > > > > I am endeavouring to establish Ann's maiden name and am hoping that I'll > be > able to do this via one of their children's birth registrations. > > > > I have been in touch with Woodhorn and North Yorks records offices and > there > are no records of marriages for the couple in Northumberland, Durham, > Pateley Bridge or East Witton. > > > > In the 1841 and 1851 censuses the family is at Warkworth, Amble. In 1851, > the two oldest children listed David and Mary, are recorded as having been > born at Beckington, Durham. (In the 1841 census there is an older son, > John, > born about 1831, which suggests the couple married in the late 1820s/1830. > > > > They have with them a family friend, Mary Bow born 1801, Gateshead. Could > Beckington be somewhere in Gateshead? > > > > Any thoughts on any of this would be hugely welcome. > > > > > > > > Pamela > > > > > > > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at > http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.14.2/2408 - Release Date: 10/01/09 18:23:00

Dear List, Has anyone any idea where Beckington, Durham was/is? I am searching a family living at Amble, Northumberland. They are David Hall (born Pateley Bridge, Yorks about 1805) and his wife Ann (born East Witton, Yorks about 1807). I am endeavouring to establish Ann's maiden name and am hoping that I'll be able to do this via one of their children's birth registrations. I have been in touch with Woodhorn and North Yorks records offices and there are no records of marriages for the couple in Northumberland, Durham, Pateley Bridge or East Witton. In the 1841 and 1851 censuses the family is at Warkworth, Amble. In 1851, the two oldest children listed David and Mary, are recorded as having been born at Beckington, Durham. (In the 1841 census there is an older son, John, born about 1831, which suggests the couple married in the late 1820s/1830. They have with them a family friend, Mary Bow born 1801, Gateshead. Could Beckington be somewhere in Gateshead? Any thoughts on any of this would be hugely welcome. Pamela

Hi Pamela Could it be Wreckenton? Barbara On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 4:15 AM, Pamela Robson <pamela@robson-dixon.com> wrote: > Dear List, > > > > Has anyone any idea where Beckington, Durham was/is? > > > > I am searching a family living at Amble, Northumberland.  They are David > Hall (born Pateley Bridge, Yorks about 1805) and his wife Ann (born East > Witton, Yorks about 1807). > > > > I am endeavouring to establish Ann's maiden name and am hoping that I'll be > able to do this via one of their children's birth registrations. > > > > I have been in touch with Woodhorn and North Yorks records offices and there > are no records of marriages for the couple in Northumberland, Durham, > Pateley Bridge or East Witton. > > > > In the 1841 and 1851 censuses the family is at Warkworth, Amble. In 1851, > the two oldest children listed David and Mary, are recorded as having been > born at Beckington, Durham. (In the 1841 census there is an older son, John, > born about 1831, which suggests the couple married in the late 1820s/1830. > > > > They have with them a family friend, Mary Bow born 1801, Gateshead.  Could > Beckington be somewhere in Gateshead? > > > > Any thoughts on any of this would be hugely welcome. > > > > > > > > Pamela > > > > > > > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Wreckenton falls under Lamesley parish in Co. Durham. There are three baptisms in Lamesley with parents names David and Ann Hall: David 11 Oct 1835 John 11 Oct 1835 Mary 14 Jan 1838 If anyone wants to look at the 1851 census it is HO107/2419 folio 181 page 42 Janis

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