Hi Michael, I live in Colchester, so the chances of getting to Ashington are fairly remote. Do you have a link for the CRO please? Thank you. Debi. -----Original Message----- From: Dixymick@aol.com To: northumbria@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:50 Subject: Re: [NMB] Some Personal Advice Please Debi, ot online. ilm of original church register of St Bede's, Bedlington, is available to rowse at Northumberland County Record Office, at Woodhorn, near Ashington. RO open Wednesday to Sunday. Or enlist CRO search services- at a fee ! ichael Dixon he NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Debi, Not online. Film of original church register of St Bede's, Bedlington, is available to browse at Northumberland County Record Office, at Woodhorn, near Ashington. CRO open Wednesday to Sunday. Or enlist CRO search services- at a fee ! Michael Dixon

This is going to sound like an odd question as it's not really family history, but rather personal history. I was born and bred in West London, but my Grandma was from Bedlington. Anyway I was baptised at St Bedes Roman Catholic Church in Bedlington without the knowledge or consent of my parents thanks to my Grandma and my Great Aunts. But none of them could remember who my God Parents were. And the people I thought were my God Parents deny that they are and can't remember either. I've got a certificate to show I was baptised there, but it doesn't list who my God Parents were. And a letter to the church a number of years ago asking for help was not responded to. Can anyone advise an online resource where I can find out? Thank you. Debi

Hi I am not sure if you have been there but the workhouses website www.workhouses.org.uk has a picture and some information on the Gateshead Cottage Homes Click on children and Education and then Cottage Homes. There is a link to the Gateshead workhouse and then at the bottom of that page, plans and descriptions of the Cottage Homes (at Shotley Bridge!) . On another page there is a 'tour' of a cottage home HTH Fiona

ADRABBOTT@aol.com wrote: > > Having just happened upon someone in the Gateshead Guardians Cottage Homes > in the 1911 Census, I wondered what these would be and I came across the > following message from Brian, 27 March 2005: > > "Unfortunately there are no surviving records of youngsters in the > workhouse or Cottage Homes." Adrian Most useful. I must admit I'd never considered the census with regard to the Cottage Homes. It will certainly help make up for the absence of Guardians' records. Brian -- Brian Pears (Gateshead, UK) http://www.bpears.org.uk/ Joint List Admin NORTHUMBRIA Genealogy Mailing List GENUKI Northumberland Maintainer

Having just happened upon someone in the Gateshead Guardians Cottage Homes in the 1911 Census, I wondered what these would be and I came across the following message from Brian, 27 March 2005: "Unfortunately there are no surviving records of youngsters in the workhouse or Cottage Homes." I only looked at the transcript of one person, Margaret E.T. Thubron, a 15 year-old inmate "Domestic Training", but the reference for her is: RG14PN29882 RD550 SD2 ED5 SN282 which should get anyone interested into the right area. Adrian

Hi everyone: I'd be most grateful to receive any help or firm information available with regard to OFIELD families in Durham and Northumberland from the late 1800s to the present day. I have been researching this rather uncommon surname for some years and have managed to identify most of the main lines, but am sadly lacking much detailed information regarding dates of birth, marriage and burials in the two counties. Most of my direct family seem to have lived in and around Jarrow, Gateshead and South Shields and followed various occupations, including tailor, ship steward, lamplighter (gas, I imagine!) and one who worked in a wooden wall board factory (plywood, at the turn of the century?). There are also some links with areas about Longbenton,NBL,including Killingworth and Shiremoor. Another main line of OFIELDs seem to have congregated around Sedgefield,DUR, but I hsve yet to make any connection between these groups. The name, which is certainly not of nothern origin and appears to have some roots in midland and eastern counties, is occasionally spelt OFFIELD and I have one poor family going through life lumped with the tag "OFFAL". Best regards, Alan Fletcher Hill, Hamilton, NZ

Hi Mildred This may be of interest, from the National Archives research guides http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/RdLeaflet.asp?sLeafletID=147 Item No 7 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > My father-in-law H. G. Robson was a member of the Home Guard during WW2. > He > lived in North Shields and there is a photograph of him in uniform with an > arm band, on which is written Home Guard. No other insignia can be seen. > I > have no other information about his time in the Home Guard. > I understand that the Tynemouth Battalion of the Home Guard had a number > of

My father-in-law H. G. Robson was a member of the Home Guard during WW2. He lived in North Shields and there is a photograph of him in uniform with an arm band, on which is written Home Guard. No other insignia can be seen. I have no other information about his time in the Home Guard. I understand that the Tynemouth Battalion of the Home Guard had a number of companies covering Whitley Bay, North Shields, Percy Main etc. and the Commanding Officer was Lt. Col Stanley Holmes. According to local newspaper reports the battalion was stood down on Sunday 3rd. December 1944. I have read that from 16th. February 1942 enlistment and service in the Home Guard became compulsory for men between the ages of 18 and 50 and that volunteers were accepted between the ages of 17 and 65. Presumably these men were in reserved occupations such as shipyard workers. The local library has one photo. of members of an Ack Ack battery at Whitley Bay manned by the Home Guard and I would ask anyone who has photos of any other company in the Tynemouth Battalion or information regarding the names/numbers of men and length of service in the different local companies to get in touch. Thank you. Mildred Robson

Thanks to all who wrote back about Holy Island records. Many great suggestions which I will follow up. One thing that didn't even occur to me was that Holy Islanders could have hopped across the border to Scotland to get married for instance. Since Holy Island in located in the border region of north-east England very close to Scotland and was part of the lands that were ripped back and forth between England and Scotland, that does make sense. Marina Ontario, Canada Celebrating Canadian Thanksgiving

Is anyone looking for William George DRYDEN sometime of 22 Greenfield Terrace Gateshead? I have a document which suggests where he was from March 1886 to January 1914. Robin

I would also be interested in this information, as I have been trying to trace Straughan Regards Donna ________________________________ From: beacock <beacock@myexcel.ca> To: northumbria@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 11 October, 2009 20:12:03 Subject: [NMB] Holy Island Parish Records & memorial inscriptions Wondering if anyone can tell me where I could obtain Parish Records such as in CD format (births, marriages, deaths,) and memorial inscriptions for Holy Island, Northumberland. I have a lot of family that lived for many generations on Holy Island, and do have some information, but most is still missing.  Looking for the following family names all from Holy Island, from the 1500s to the 1800s.  SIMPSON, BRIGHAM, OLIVER, THOMPSON, GLADSTONE or GLADSTONES, ORDE or ORD, WALLACE. Marina Ontario, Canada The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 11/10/2009 21:27:50 GMT Daylight Time, beacock@myexcel.ca writes: Wondering if anyone can tell me where I could obtain Parish Records such as in CD format (births, marriages, deaths,) and memorial inscriptions for Holy Island, Northumberland As with all similar requests based on a particular Northumberland or Co Durham parish, the best place for anyone not living in this region to begin is with the NDFHS website - _www.ndfhs.org.uk_ (http://www.ndfhs.org.uk) - where you will find a list of what is (a) for sale, in microfiche and/or CD format - and what they have in their library at Bolbec Hall, Newcastle. Transcripts of parish registers to 1812 are probably in the H M Wood MSS in Newcastle Central Library, and the original parish registers will be in Northumberland County Record Office at Woodhorn, Northumberland or else at Durham County Record Office in Durham. Tynea nd Wear Archives have no original C of E registers but they do have a good collection of nonconformist registers a nd they also have microfilm copies of C of E registers for their district. MIs are much more "hit-and-miss, as regards whether they have been recorded (most of the pre-1837 churchyards have been), where copies are now held and whether any particular burial is recorded on a stone anyway. Again, the NDFHS has the best collection but others are held by Newcastle library and by County Record Offices. When looking at parishes in the extreme north of the county - say Holy Island and beyond - bear in mind that Berwick upon Tweed branch of Northumberland Record Office have their own considerable collection of material, but no parish registers, though they do have all those for north Northumberland on microfilm. As a general hint, the trend was always for the coastal population to drift from north to south. Hence a family anywhere on the Northumberland coast may well have come down the coast from further north, and ultmately from Scotland. Geoff Nicholson

Searching for any information about MARY TOBIN from BIRLING circa early 1800s. She migrated to Canada and had a family with her husband, GEORGE LEE/LEY,  in Fredericton, New Brunswick. Thank you very much.

Mark Kirby wrote: > My research tells me that both the HOGG and STOREY surnames are from the > Tynemouth/Newcastle areas? Mark Both of those surnames are spread across the length and breadth of the country, and, without other indicators, there is absolutely no reason to believe that those two men have any association with the Tynemouth/Newcastle area or indeed the North East in general. Brian -- Brian Pears (Gateshead, UK) http://www.bpears.org.uk/ Joint List Admin NORTHUMBRIA Genealogy Mailing List GENUKI Northumberland Maintainer

Correction, Trudi Sorry - the Bishop's transcripts for Whickham only seem to go up to 1853. So I am afraid that the only thing will be to buy the death certificate. Heather

Hi Trudi Yes Dunstan was a saint - but this is DUNSTON - now a suburb of Gateshead, but at that time part of the parish of Whickham. I would look in the "new" Bishop's Transcripts on line for the date when the child died, and I would start with Whickham. Dunston Christ Church was not built until 1872 - I haven't checked, but the burials for that church should be in there too. Note we are talking about burials - not gravestones. Heather Trudi Barr wrote: > Hello Heather, > > > > Happy Thanksgiving. > > > > Thank you for your comments and suggestions. It so helps to know the > geography of the place as I had no idea about Dunstan (except that he/it was > a saint . . wasn't he?). > > > > I remember a while back you checked the MI's of Whickham for this little > girl for me and didn't find anything then, so maybe I will give Christ > Church in Dunstan a go. Of course they might have been too poor to be able > to afford a headstone, but I was kind of hoping . . . > > > > The rest of the family were still going strong as at the 1901 Census, it > just seems sad that this particular branch was afflicted with the deaths of > two small children and I wondered if there was perhaps an epidemic of > something going on at the time. And there was such a large gap between the > two oldest children, that it also seems possible there might have been > others born, lived and died between census'. > > > > I couldn't find this family at all on the 1861 Census and they should be > there as William ARMSTRONG married Elenor ROBSON on the 25th of July, 1858, > at Newcastle Upon Tyne, and my g-grandfather, George William ARMSTRONG was > born the 12th of May 1860, also at Newcastle. He lived til he was 82, dying > in Victoria, BC, on the 13th of January 1942, the 13th anniversary of the > date of death of his wife. > > > > It is very strange that many members of your family follow pretty much the > same migration pattern as members of mine. It's almost hard to believe they > didn't know each other. > > > > Best wishes, and thanks again for the info, > > > > Trudi Barr, British Columbia, Canada. > > > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hello Heather, Happy Thanksgiving. Thank you for your comments and suggestions. It so helps to know the geography of the place as I had no idea about Dunstan (except that he/it was a saint . . wasn't he?). I remember a while back you checked the MI's of Whickham for this little girl for me and didn't find anything then, so maybe I will give Christ Church in Dunstan a go. Of course they might have been too poor to be able to afford a headstone, but I was kind of hoping . . . The rest of the family were still going strong as at the 1901 Census, it just seems sad that this particular branch was afflicted with the deaths of two small children and I wondered if there was perhaps an epidemic of something going on at the time. And there was such a large gap between the two oldest children, that it also seems possible there might have been others born, lived and died between census'. I couldn't find this family at all on the 1861 Census and they should be there as William ARMSTRONG married Elenor ROBSON on the 25th of July, 1858, at Newcastle Upon Tyne, and my g-grandfather, George William ARMSTRONG was born the 12th of May 1860, also at Newcastle. He lived til he was 82, dying in Victoria, BC, on the 13th of January 1942, the 13th anniversary of the date of death of his wife. It is very strange that many members of your family follow pretty much the same migration pattern as members of mine. It's almost hard to believe they didn't know each other. Best wishes, and thanks again for the info, Trudi Barr, British Columbia, Canada.

Hi Trudi I can't help much with your question - although childhood deaths were common in those days - all sorts of diseases caused by poor living conditions. I would like to point out however that Athol Street is actually in Dunston - as you can see if you look at the full census print out. {I can send a scan of a map if you want it] I have a JEFFREY family who lived in the same area, and 5 of their seven children [except my great grandmother Isabella and her sister Annie] died in childhood. The parents also died in their 40s - the mother from Typhoid in 1889. Annie died in childbirth in her 20s - and my great grandmother, the only survivor of this sad family lived to be 83!!! Isabella and her husband Robert GRAHAM lived at 16 Athol Street Dunston in 1891. Athol Street was not far from Christ Church, Dunston [where I was married] which had gravestones - but I don't know if these were ever indexed or when burials took place there. My grandmother's parents Charles and Elizabeth Jeffrey were buried at Whickham in 1889 and 1893, so that is the first place I would suggest that you look for your little girl. Heather Trudi Barr wrote:

Wondering if anyone can tell me where I could obtain Parish Records such as in CD format (births, marriages, deaths,) and memorial inscriptions for Holy Island, Northumberland. I have a lot of family that lived for many generations on Holy Island, and do have some information, but most is still missing. Looking for the following family names all from Holy Island, from the 1500s to the 1800s. SIMPSON, BRIGHAM, OLIVER, THOMPSON, GLADSTONE or GLADSTONES, ORDE or ORD, WALLACE. Marina Ontario, Canada