Further to my request Can anyone help find Frederick James GADNER in the censuses from 1891 onwards? I've found him in Byker in1911 And Thanks Harry ...the 1891 Heaton sighting is a definite possible As we now believe he married Mary Ann Taylor in Newcastle in 1900 .. Now hope to find him in 1901 too. Robin

Northumberland Jim, or near Whitley Bay/North Shields? If its the Whitley Bay/North Shields one I could go and take some pictures for you D ________________________________ From: Jim Nicholson <jim@gridlad.co.uk> To: northumbria@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 20 October, 2009 12:55:49 Subject: [NMB] New York Village Hi there I am trying to find photographs of Green Lea Lane in New York Village, Northumberland. Any assistance would be appreciated. Jim The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi there I am trying to find photographs of Green Lea Lane in New York Village, Northumberland. Any assistance would be appreciated. Jim

hi interested in the surname GEORGE in newcastle area 1880 + thanks julie-ann:)

Heather, Once you have decided if Maria Stephenson is your gal then there is a baptisms in Stanhope: Jonathon Stephenson born 29 Oct 1811, baptised 1 Dec 1811 1st son of Jonathan Stephenson of Middle Rigg, miner, native of this parish by his wife Elizabeth Bee, Native of this parish. Janis

Hi Heather, with Helen findings I found the following baptism in the St John's Chapel BTs 11th July 1813 Maria Stephenson daughter of Jonathan and Elizabeth Stephenson of Benthouse occupation miner. Benthouse is just south of the River and very close to Burtree. I note that your Isaac and maria had a son named Jonathan.. Happy Hunting John _________________________________________________________________ Did you know you can get Messenger on your mobile? http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/174426567/direct/01/

In message <4ADC8944.20805@sasktel.net>, Heather Punshon <punshon@sasktel.net> writes >Much appreciation to everyone for their comments re Dan's Castle in Tow Law. > >Still referring to the census entry for Isaac and Maria DAVISON in 1871 >RG10/; Piece: /4954/; Folio: /36/; Page: /19 Sch 101 >Can anyone locate the place of birth for Maria? >Bawtry? >Other census entries for Maria give her birthplace as Stanope or Weardale. > >Thanks > >Heather > Hi Heather, Found a marriage at Bishopwearmouth, St Michael parish church, but you would have to check with one of the children's birth certificates that it is the right one From GENUKI 15 Oct 1836 Isaac Davison = Maria Stevenson -- Helen Oram

Robin, Do you have Fred's birth registration in Scotland ? The England-born children seem to have been registered timeously in appropriate Registration Districts. Maybe Fred thought he had been born in Felton, whereas it was his younger siblings who were ! On C1891 (page ref 647-151-1) there is a Scotland-born Fred Gardener, aged 19, in the Royal Engineers ? On the 1901 census in Gateshead ( 4758-97-31) wife Henrietta is recorded as aged 35. Is this nearly 20 years younger than her "real" age ? Michael Dixon

Can anyone help find Frederick James GADNER in the censuses from 1891 onwards? He was born in Dumfriesshire in1873 and appears in the 1881 Census in Felton with his parents as Theodore! After that we have not found him in censuses under either name in England or Scotland. Had given up hopes until he reappeared as the informant for his fathe's death in Gateshead in 1923 The certificate has ... Informant Fred.J.Gardner, son, 7,Stephen Street Byker, Newcastle Upon Tyne His parents were in Gateshead in 1901 and 1911 and both died at 67 Wylam Street Gateshead (his mother in 1921) Robin

Hi Heather, I had a look in Stanhope and Houghton le Spring but there doesn't seem to be a marriage in either of those places. As you say purchasing a birth certificate would be a good idea. I've just looked at the St John Chapel registers on Family Search and there are a number of babies baptised with Burtree as their abode-I noticed a few Marias too.I'd guess that this area was where she came from. As you probably know the ur or ir sound is pronounced as or in a broad North Eastern tongue thus Bawtry.. as in borthday etc. Happy hunting John _________________________________________________________________ Did you know you can get Messenger on your mobile? http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/174426567/direct/01/

Thanks again, John I'll get the birth certificate and let everyone know if your and Helen's findings turn out to be correct! Best Wishes Heather John Ayton wrote: > Hi Heather, with Helen findings I found the following baptism in the St John's Chapel BTs > > 11th July 1813 Maria Stephenson daughter of Jonathan and Elizabeth Stephenson of Benthouse occupation miner. > > Benthouse is just south of the River and very close to Burtree. I note that your Isaac and maria had a son named Jonathan.. Happy Hunting John > > _________________________________________________________________ > Did you know you can get Messenger on your mobile? > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/174426567/direct/01/ > > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thank you very much, Helen Heather > Found a marriage at Bishopwearmouth, St Michael parish church, but you > would have to check with one of the children's birth certificates that > it is the right one > > From GENUKI > > 15 Oct 1836 Isaac Davison = Maria Stevenson > >

Hi Heather, I was wondering whether you thought that Burtree may be the birthplace of Isaac's wife. There is a Burtree ford near Cowshill in upper Weardale. This area was in the parish of Stanhope. What was Isaac's wife's maiden name?? She may well have been baptised at Stanhope and if so you could look that up on the Familysearch BT site.. Yours John _________________________________________________________________ Did you know you can get Messenger on your mobile? http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/174426567/direct/01/

In message <4ADC8944.20805@sasktel.net>, Heather Punshon <punshon@sasktel.net> writes >Much appreciation to everyone for their comments re Dan's Castle in Tow Law. > >Still referring to the census entry for Isaac and Maria DAVISON in 1871 >RG10/; Piece: /4954/; Folio: /36/; Page: /19 Sch 101 >Can anyone locate the place of birth for Maria? >Bawtry? >Other census entries for Maria give her birthplace as Stanope or Weardale. > >Thanks > >Heather Hi Heather, 1881 census has Birtley as birthplace - still a long way from Stanhope, although there was a small area known as Birtley near Bishop Auckland as well as the larger one near Chester-le-Street. Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Isaac DAVISON Head M Male 71 Houghton Le Spring, Durham, England Coal Miner Unemployed Maria DAVISON Wife M Female 70 Birtley, Durham, England Matthew DAVISON Son U Male 30 Houghton Le Spring, Durham, England Mason Source Information: Dwelling Harrison St Census Place Wolsingham, Durham, England Family History Library Film 1342187 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4939 / 96 Page Number 14 Regards, -- Helen Oram

Fpr Helen Punshon <Second question is the birthplace of Isaac's wife Maria I read it as Bawtry. The 1861 gives Weardale and the 1851 gives Stanhope> As a Newcastle ex-pat now in Sheffield I can point you to Bawtry in South Yorkshire. Google brings it up instantly and it is south of Doncaster on the A638. I'm sorry I can't do OS grid refs! This is the only Bawtry I know and am not aware of one in either Newcastle or Northumberland. I hope this does not raise more questions than it answers!!! David Lawson

Thanks John I have not been able to ascertain Maria's maiden name - nothing on the IGI for their marriage.. According to the CENSUS records she was born around 1813/4 and they were probably married in about 1835as the oldest child was born in 1836! According to the IGI there were 21 Marys bpt in Stanhope at around that time - and 8 Marias! I will have to order the birth certificate of one of their younger children to get her maiden name. Heather John Ayton wrote: > Hi Heather, I was wondering whether you thought that Burtree may be the birthplace of Isaac's wife. There is a Burtree ford near Cowshill in upper Weardale. This area was in the parish of Stanhope. What was Isaac's wife's maiden name?? She may well have been baptised at Stanhope and if so you could look that up on the Familysearch BT site.. Yours John >

I am looking for information about the family of William Hetherington (c1839-1882) Allendale, and Mary Ann Walton bn.c1846, Allendale. William and Mary Ann married in 1867 at Ninebanks, Northumberland. Mary Ann Walton was the daughter of John Walton & Mary Martin. Children - Margaret Jane 1869, Isaac 1871, John Walton 1874, Robert Wm. 1876 and Mary Hannah 1879. John W. Hetherington marr. in 1900 Mary A. Elliott and Mary Hannah marr in 1901 Thomas (Tom) F. Ritson. I have recently found that Mary Ann Hetherington bn.c1846, and her daughter Mary Hannah Ritson & Tom Ritson, migrated to Montreal Canada in May 1904. Any information about the other family members - Margaret J., Isaac, John W., & Robert William Hetherington would be appreciated. Many thanks Carmel

Much appreciation to everyone for their comments re Dan's Castle in Tow Law. Still referring to the census entry for Isaac and Maria DAVISON in 1871 RG10/; Piece: /4954/; Folio: /36/; Page: /19 Sch 101 Can anyone locate the place of birth for Maria? Bawtry? Other census entries for Maria give her birthplace as Stanope or Weardale. Thanks Heather

We have death of Henrietta GARDNER at 65 Wylam Street Gateshead in . Can anyone tell me what the housing was like at that end of the street? I've seen two photographs online at http://isee.gateshead.gov.uk These are captioned as 1 - 33 Wylam Street. Robin

Hi Alan, thank you for that added information. Yes you seem to be dead right about Wards End. I've just been looking on old and modern maps and High House Farm certainly seems to have been called Wards End in Victorian times. My grandad Ayton was born at Harperley in 1872 and obviously used the older names. The OS maps online also show Dan's Castle clearly marked for anyone wanting to find it. While we are identifying buildings. Does anyone know where Low-a-Moor house was exactly(I've seen a variety of spellings for it). My grandad Alexander Faill Moralee was born there and I think it was between Cornsay and Langley Park somewhere. I haven't been able to find it on any map.Yours John Ayton _________________________________________________________________ Download Messenger onto your mobile for free http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/174426567/direct/01/