Alan Yarrow wrote: > Jeanette, just as a matter of interest I used to have a schoolmate in the Alan Please don't mention people who may still be alive. Brian -- Brian Pears (Gateshead, UK) http://www.bpears.org.uk/ Joint List Admin NORTHUMBRIA Genealogy Mailing List GENUKI Northumberland Maintainer

Hey, I went to that school too, small world. www.eyshasfineart.co.uk "Never Live Life Faster Than Your Guardian Angel Can Fly." -----Original Message----- From: northumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:northumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Alan Yarrow Sent: 22 October 2009 10:44 To: northumbria@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NMB] Re Surname interests GEORGE Jeanette, just as a matter of interest I used to have a schoolmate in the late 1940's called George Smeaton and he lived in Rawling Road Gateshead We both went to Brighton Road School. Is he one of yours? regards Alan Y ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanette Heath" <dbheath@melbpc.org.au> To: <NORTHUMBRIA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 11:11 PM Subject: [NMB] Re Surname interests GEORGE > > > Hi Julie Ann > > In my tree I have a Margaret Jane Archbold who married Albert Arthur > George in Newcastle in 1894. Their children were Jacob George, born > 1895, William Archbold George, born 1899 and John Smeaton George born > 1904. I have found descendants for John Smeaton George, but not for > the older brothers. > I also have an Isabella Coates who married Arthur Albert George in > Gateshead in 1897. I think Albert and Arthur were cousins. I have one > child for them - Albert Graham Edward, born 1902. I hope there is a > connection. > > Jeanette Heath > > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at > http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jeanette, just as a matter of interest I used to have a schoolmate in the late 1940's called George Smeaton and he lived in Rawling Road Gateshead We both went to Brighton Road School. Is he one of yours? regards Alan Y ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanette Heath" <dbheath@melbpc.org.au> To: <NORTHUMBRIA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 11:11 PM Subject: [NMB] Re Surname interests GEORGE > > > Hi Julie Ann > > In my tree I have a Margaret Jane Archbold who married Albert Arthur > George in Newcastle in 1894. Their children were Jacob George, born > 1895, William Archbold George, born 1899 and John Smeaton George born > 1904. I have found descendants for John Smeaton George, but not for > the older brothers. > I also have an Isabella Coates who married Arthur Albert George in > Gateshead in 1897. I think Albert and Arthur were cousins. I have one > child for them - Albert Graham Edward, born 1902. I hope there is a > connection. > > Jeanette Heath > > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at > http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Carol Ann Logan wrote: > I know that this is the Northumbria list but recent postings > seem to have included Co. Durham so I hope you will not mind me > asking for help on the following. The family mentioned did end up > living in Newcastle by 1915. Carol Ann The list covers Northumberland and Co Durham. Brian -- Brian Pears (Gateshead, UK) http://www.bpears.org.uk/ Joint List Admin NORTHUMBRIA Genealogy Mailing List GENUKI Northumberland Maintainer

Hi Julie Ann In my tree I have a Margaret Jane Archbold who married Albert Arthur George in Newcastle in 1894. Their children were Jacob George, born 1895, William Archbold George, born 1899 and John Smeaton George born 1904. I have found descendants for John Smeaton George, but not for the older brothers. I also have an Isabella Coates who married Arthur Albert George in Gateshead in 1897. I think Albert and Arthur were cousins. I have one child for them - Albert Graham Edward, born 1902. I hope there is a connection. Jeanette Heath

Hello I am looking for the marriage of Thomas Aittis to a Mary I know so far that he was born c.1812 in Sunderland, and she was born c1813 in Washington, Durham I have found them on freecen in 1861 living in Penshaw/Painshaw, Houghton le Spring, with several children (Thomas and Mary are still here in 1881 - with no children) children include a Mary Ann Aittis c1840, who marries George Snowball in 1861 The eldest child on the 1861 census record is a Thomas J born c 1838, so I expect they married not much before this (but possibly as early as 1820, I guess ...) Any help greatly appreciated, Mary's maiden name would be lovely ... Christel Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

Dear Listers I know that this is the Northumbria list but recent postings seem to have included Co. Durham so I hope you will not mind me asking for help on the following. The family mentioned did end up living in Newcastle by 1915. I have tried many times to trace Thomas ARMSTRONG, Mary WEAVER and daughter Alice Ann WEAVER on 1871 census but still cannot find them. I’ve tried searching for each of the 3 names in full, by surname only giving year & place of birth, by first name only with place of birth etc. None of the usual methods has turned up anything. 1843-4 Thomas ARMSTRONG was born in Stockton 1850 Mary WEAVER was born at Great Grimsby 4 Dec 1868 my great grandmother, Alice Ann WEAVER, was born at Cape House, Carlton, DUR. No father’s name shown, mother Mary WEAVER 25 July 1870 Mary WEAVER married Thomas ARMSTRONG at Sunderland Registry office by certificate. Address for both parties given as Vane Tce, New Hendon, Bishopwearmouth. Thomas was at that time working as a Screwer in an engine fitting shop. 1871 they are all unnacounted for 21st Jan 1880 Alice Ann is baptised as Alice Ann ARMSTRONG in Great Grimsby 1881 they are living at Wolviston RG11/4893 F 97 p 2. Thomas is described as a farmer of 175 acres 1891 they are living at Stobbart Hotel, Escomb RG12/4068 Folio 199 pg 6 with Thomas as Innkeeper 1901 they are living at Spoor’s Buildings, Escomb RG13/4645 Folio ? Pg 18 and Thomas is a General Labourer 1911 they are at Woodside, Witton Park RG14PN29714 RG78PN1721 RD547 SD1 ED12 SN415 Thomas is a farm labourer Any help gratefully received. Thank you Carol-Ann LOGAN _________________________________________________________________ Use Windows Live Messenger for free on selected mobiles http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/174426567/direct/01/

Hi Please note that Baptisms, Marriages and Burials for St Andrews Church, Corbridge from 1657 to 1812 and Baptisms for St Giles Church, Netherwitton from 1696 to 1802 are now searchable on the FreeReg site: http://www.freereg.org.uk/ The search page is at http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl Brian -- Brian Pears (Gateshead, UK) http://www.bpears.org.uk/ Joint List Admin NORTHUMBRIA Genealogy Mailing List GENUKI Northumberland Maintainer

Hi Can anyone identify the church shown in this picture. It was among family papers of a family from Rowlands Gill and the current generation thought it was a church in the Rowlands Gill area, but I certainly don't recognise it. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. http://www.bpears.org.uk/temp/Joelle22.jpg Brian -- Brian Pears (Gateshead, UK) http://www.bpears.org.uk/ Joint List Admin NORTHUMBRIA Genealogy Mailing List GENUKI Northumberland Maintainer

Hello again Jack, I sent a reply to your oiginal email but I think I was mistaken, on looking back at the website I could find only the registers of Edlinghan and Eglingham not Ellingham. John ----Original Message---- From: cheyanne@hughes.net Date: 20/10/2009 19:45 To: <Northumbria@rootsweb.com> Subj: [NMB] Ellingha Hello Listers Can anyone tell me how I can find parish records for Ellingham? Is there another parish that they are listed under or are they just not on the list at familysearch. labs yet? I am looking for Jacksons around 1770 to about 1840. Thank you for any replies Jack, USA The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org. uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Recycle mobile phones and earn - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/recycle

Another of our challenging GARDNER family Can anyone help find Constance Edith GARDNER in the 1891 Census? She was born in Carlisle in Jan to Mar 1875 and we have found her with parents in Felton in 1881. She married John Grainger in Newcastle in 1893 and they are in Benwell in 1901. She dies in Gateshead in 1902. I've tried searching both ancestry and findmypast online across variants of surname with no success She is one of several members of the family of James Amory GARDNER( b Alnwick 1848) and Henrietta Jane (born Alnwick 1846) who we have not yet found in 1891 .... We've not found the parents either. Some of the children are scattered in Homes for Waifs and strays etc. Robin

Robin, I notice that on both FreeBMD site and Newcastle Register Office site, Carlisle-born Constance Edith's marraige is registered as Edith. Also on 1901 census ( 4777-96-7) both her and her Felton-born brother Charles are recorded as Newcastle-born. So.... a candidate for Constance Edith on 1891 census.... In Westgate area of Newcastle (like Benwell on west side of Newcastle) there is a 16 yr old Edith, servant, but recorded as born North Shields (4191-49-26) ? Michael Dixon

In a message dated 20/10/2009 19:46:43 GMT Daylight Time, cheyanne@hughes.net writes: Can anyone tell me how I can find parish records for Ellingham? Is there another parish that they are listed under or are they just not on the list at familysearch. labs yet? I am looking for Jacksons around 1770 to about 1840. Mention of "parish records" and "the list at familysearch" together probably means you are seeking the BTs. As has been said before (many times) that list is still only in the "Beta" stage and so is (a) incomplete and (b) quite possibly inaccurate. The "Official" way to find what is where as far as parish registers - but not other parish records - are concerned remains the use of the Society of Genealogists "National Index of Parish Registers", of which Volume XI, Part 2 covers Northumberland and Co Durham. The latest version is the 2nd edition (1984) by C P Neat, revised by D G Mason. That source tells us that Ellingham parish registers, baps 1695-1971, baps of Dissenters (such as are noted in the parish register) 1751-1806, marriages 1695-1835 and burials 1695-1871 are held in Northumberland County Record Office (Woodhorn). Copies of baptisms and burials 1695-1819, with notes of the baptisms of dissenters 1751-1806 and marriages 1695-1804 are held in Newcastle Central Library (ie the H M Wood transcripts), with microfilms of those copies in Salt Lake City. The Society of Genealogists have copies of the same transcripts, although their marriages go up to 1814. The marriages 1695-1814 are included in Boyd's Marriage Index and the Banns 1754-1814 are in Boyd's "Miscellaneous" volume. The marriages 1813-1837 were included in the second volume of Alan Readdie's index to all north Northumberland marriages for that period (now absorbed into the NDFHS index for the whole of Northumberland) and the baptisms 1695-1812 are on the IGI. The BTs cover 1764-1842, with gaps, and are held by Durham University - in 1984 that was in the Department of Palaeography and Diplomatic but now it is in the University Library, Archives and Special Collections. OK, that was written before the days of the internet, but it has an authority that another stage of transcription, such as when records are put "on-line" can never have. The National Index then goes on to give similar, though slightly shorter, accounts of the registers of Ellingham RC church (outside date 1781-1840: some being with the priest of Seahouses RC) and of Ellingham (Linkhall) Methodist New Connexion Church, of which all there is to say is that it was founded by 1795 and was in the Alnwick Circuit. If your Jacksons prove elusive be sure to bear in mind the possibility that, living as close to the Border as they did, they might have been descended from Scottish immigrants and so the first generation after the immigration (at least) would probably have been Presbyterians, with all that implies for where their CMB might be found. Geoff Nicholson

Hi Jack, I,m replying via webmail so can't copy the web address I want to send so I have am sending an attachment, a wordpad text file containing the web address of some northumberland archives. I have been able to look at the parish registers using this web site but a while ago. You will need to browse. I will try later to find ellingham and if successful I will point you to the correct page, meanwhile give it a try. (if you can't make sense of this let me know) John Robson ----Original Message---- From: cheyanne@hughes.net Date: 20/10/2009 19:45 To: <Northumbria@rootsweb.com> Subj: [NMB] Ellingha Hello Listers Can anyone tell me how I can find parish records for Ellingham? Is there another parish that they are listed under or are they just not on the list at familysearch. labs yet? I am looking for Jacksons around 1770 to about 1840. Thank you for any replies Jack, USA The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org. uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Get 50% off Norton Security- http://www.tiscali.co.uk/securepc

On 20/10/09 13:57, "Dixymick@aol.com" <Dixymick@aol.com> wrote: > Do you have Fred's birth registration in Scotland ? Yes thanks and the other three children born there on two different farms. > The England-born children seem to have been registered timeously in > appropriate Registration Districts. That's right Carlisle, South Shields, then Felton and finally Newcastle > On C1891 (page ref 647-151-1) there is a Scotland-born Fred Gardener, aged > 19, in the Royal Engineers ? Interesting one > On the 1901 census in Gateshead ( 4758-97-31) wife Henrietta is recorded as > aged 35. Is this nearly 20 years younger than her "real" age ? Yes we've got that 35 instead of 54 ... Then in 1911 she is 57 instead of 64. Husband James filled in the 1911 Census form saying he was 58 instead of 62. They had clearly fallen on hard times after 1881 so who knows what effect it had on them. Robin

Thanks, Janis Heather Janis Noonan wrote: > Heather, > > Once you have decided if Maria Stephenson is your gal then there is a > baptisms in Stanhope: > > Jonathon Stephenson born 29 Oct 1811, baptised 1 Dec 1811 1st son of > Jonathan Stephenson of Middle Rigg, miner, native of this parish by his wife > Elizabeth Bee, Native of this parish. > > Janis > > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hello there, Bill: Do you have any connection to the following? MARGARET PROUDLOCK was born on 22 Dec, 1823 at Swinden, Rothbury, Northumberland to GEORGE (1790) and JANE PROUDLOCK. There are three other daughters, MARIA, DOROTHY and JANE. MARGARET’S grandfather GEORGE (1764) married DOROTHY nee PYLE. MARGARET’S great grandfather GEORGE PROUDLOCK was the son of GEORGE (1735) and JANE nee OLIVER. GEORGE (1735) was the son of GEORGE and ANN nee WINTRUP. Veronica Thornton Hagin northern California On Aug 20, 2009, at 8:57 AM, Bill Dawson wrote: > Hi everyone, > > ............. > > > > Of interest there are strong connections with the Proudlock family > over a > couple of generations in the late 1700s, early 1800s. > > > > Many thanks for any hints, tips, clues or leads that anyone may have. > > > > Bill Dawson > > > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Hello Listers Can anyone tell me how I can find parish records for Ellingham? Is there another parish that they are listed under or are they just not on the list at familysearch. labs yet? I am looking for Jacksons around 1770 to about 1840. Thank you for any replies Jack, USA

Donna Many thanks for your kind offer. It is the one 3 miles from both North Shields & Whitley Bay. Unfortunately I am after photographs of the old houses & not the current ones. Jim Hi there I am trying to find photographs of Green Lea Lane in New York Village, Northumberland. Any assistance would be appreciated. Jim

oh well, I cant help you there then!  Good luck D ________________________________ From: Jim Nicholson <jim@gridlad.co.uk> To: northumbria@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 20 October, 2009 14:45:32 Subject: Re: [NMB] New York Village Donna Many thanks for your kind offer. It is the one 3 miles from both North Shields & Whitley Bay. Unfortunately I am after photographs of the old houses & not the current ones. Jim Hi there I am trying to find photographs of Green Lea Lane in New York Village, Northumberland. Any assistance would be appreciated. Jim The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message