Afternoon all Thank you for your comments When I look at the entery I thought is was Pollock but thought I should try a second source to be sure. Thank you again Regards Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Pears" <bp@bpears.org.uk> To: <northumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [NMB] Registration of Voters list for 1911 in South Shields > > It clearly is "Pollock" on the image of that schedule, so it is

Can anyone tell me where Low Flatts, Durham is? I can find a Low Flatts in Cumbria ... thanks Christel

p.jpcollins wrote: > Good evening all. > I think I may have come across a transcription error in the 1911 Census > [RG14PN30293 RD556 SD1 ED34 SN38 > > At 170 Westoe Road South Shields they list as a visitor POLLARD MARY > ETHEL School Teacher > I think this should be POLLOCK MARY ETHEL > but I am not sure. Peter It clearly is "Pollock" on the image of that schedule, so it is definitely a transcription error. I've reported the error, so they will look again at the image, and if they agree with the correction they will change it. Brian -- Brian Pears (Gateshead, UK) http://www.bpears.org.uk/ Joint List Admin NORTHUMBRIA Genealogy Mailing List GENUKI Northumberland Maintainer

p.jpcollins wrote: > At 170 Westoe Road South Shields they list as a visitor POLLARD MARY > ETHEL School Teacher > I think this should be POLLOCK MARY ETHEL > but I am not sure. I wonder if anyone has access to the 1911 Voters > Registration list for South Shields and would be kind enough if that can > solve this problem for me Peter Electors Lists don't record visitors, nor, at that date, did they include women. All you'll find listed are people who were qualified to vote - and at that date it was men owning or lodging in property worth at least 10 pounds per year. Brian -- Brian Pears (Gateshead, UK) http://www.bpears.org.uk/ Joint List Admin NORTHUMBRIA Genealogy Mailing List GENUKI Northumberland Maintainer

Good evening all. I think I may have come across a transcription error in the 1911 Census [RG14PN30293 RD556 SD1 ED34 SN38 At 170 Westoe Road South Shields they list as a visitor POLLARD MARY ETHEL School Teacher I think this should be POLLOCK MARY ETHEL but I am not sure. I wonder if anyone has access to the 1911 Voters Registration list for South Shields and would be kind enough if that can solve this problem for me Thank you in advance Regards Peter Collins PS I think that the person has died!!

Dear Listers, Can anyone shed light on the following story. Sometime in the early years of World War Two, I think in either 1940 or 1941, there was a collision on the Tyne between a Royal Navy warship, possibly a destroyer, at night ,with the ferry which operated between Walker ferry landing and Hebburn. The ferry was carrying workmen from Hawthorn Leslie's shipyard, who had to abandon the sinking ship and climb up rigging, let down over the warship's side, to the safety of the deck. My father said he took off his boots and slung them round his neck so he could climb faster. I was 'evacuated' at the time this event took place, which I think was reported on the national wireless 9 o'clock news. Can anyone pin a date on this event so that I can start to look through local papers for more detail? Regards, Mildred Robson

Thanks for that info Brian. Linda

Peter, Have you seen the handwritten entry by the head of household. Error could have been his/hers and not modern-day transcriber. Michael Dixon

Lindatamarisk@aol.com wrote: > Does this still apply Brian, I have heard that their credits have now run > out! Or have they been given more funding? Linda The free access to the 1911 census at Tyne & Wear Archives has indeed ended - TWAS are currently offering free access to The National Archives Documents Online service. See: http://www.ffhs.org.uk/news/news091015.php Brian -- Brian Pears (Gateshead, UK) http://www.bpears.org.uk/ Joint List Admin NORTHUMBRIA Genealogy Mailing List GENUKI Northumberland Maintainer

Went to the archives last week. Now have to pay to access the census unfortunately Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: <Lindatamarisk@aol.com> To: <northumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [NMB] Free Access to 1911 Census > > In a message dated 28/07/2009 19:13:49 GMT Daylight Time, bp@bpears.org.uk > writes: > > Marvelous news for researchers in the Newcastle area - Tyne and Wear > Archives is to have free access to the 1911 census: > > > > Does this still apply Brian, I have heard that their credits have now run > out! Or have they been given more funding? > > Linda > > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at > http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 28/07/2009 19:13:49 GMT Daylight Time, bp@bpears.org.uk writes: Marvelous news for researchers in the Newcastle area - Tyne and Wear Archives is to have free access to the 1911 census: Does this still apply Brian, I have heard that their credits have now run out! Or have they been given more funding? Linda

Many thanks to Geoff and Glenda - a trip to the Archives is certainly called for. Kath > Your first stop when seeking any records of any Tyneside industry >should be Tyne and Wear Archives,

Kevin Old Berwick, Holy Trinity is C of E, not Catholic, and was a disused ruin for much of the 18th century and well into the 19th when it was restored. St Paul's at Alnwick didn't become Roman Catholic until 1982 and it didn't exist at all in the period of interest to Jack. It was opened in 1846. The Roman Catholic church in Bailiffgate which you mention was St Mary's and is was indeed open in the mid 18th century, though no records are extant before the 1790s. St Mary Immaculate at Whittingham dates from the 19th century, so is too recent for Jack. There was a Catholic chapel at nearby Callaly Castle at the time of interest to Jack, but again no records are extant before the 1790s. Brian Kevin Moody wrote: > The nearest Catholic Churches I know of in the areas that may help : > > Holy Trinity Church, Old Bewick - Just north of Old Bewick > http://www.northumberland-cam.com/churches/old-bewick.htm > > St. Paul's Church Alnwick - There used to be a church in Baliffgate that was > closer > > St. Mary Immaculate, Whittingham - North of Whittingham, half way to Glanton > http://communities.northumberland.gov.uk/006391FS.htm -- Brian Pears (Gateshead, UK) http://www.bpears.org.uk/ Joint List Admin NORTHUMBRIA Genealogy Mailing List GENUKI Northumberland Maintainer

Hi Jack, Following on from Jenny's note. The nearest Catholic Churches I know of in the areas that may help : Holy Trinity Church, Old Bewick - Just north of Old Bewick http://www.northumberland-cam.com/churches/old-bewick.htm St. Paul's Church Alnwick - There used to be a church in Baliffgate that was closer St. Mary Immaculate, Whittingham - North of Whittingham, half way to Glanton http://communities.northumberland.gov.uk/006391FS.htm Best Regards Kevin

Can anyone advise about specific ship building/repair records in Jarrow in 1877? My grandfather and eight siblings were all born in Dundee 1876-1892 and the family moved to Newcastle in about 1895. My great grandfather John Ogilvie Liddell was a shipwright /ship's carpenter who apparently travelled widely (hearsay several times round Cape Horn), but until now I have not found any records. I have this week received the death certificate for the firstborn in this family, Isabella, who was born in Dundee in Nov 1876, but died of pneumonia in Jarrow at the age of four months in Mar 1877. The address was 6 Frederick Street, Jarrow, and her father was present at the death. I would like to find out why they were there at this time, how long they would have stayed and would this journey have been typical? Can anyone suggest a research route please? Kath

In a message dated 04/11/2009 11:55:59 GMT Standard Time, k_liddell@btinternet.com writes: Can anyone advise about specific ship building/repair records in Jarrow in 1877? Kath: Your first stop when seeking any records of any Tyneside industry should be Tyne and Wear Archives, Blandford House, Blandford Square, Newcastle upon Tyne. Their web-site has a catalogue of their holdings. The main yard in Jarrow would be Palmer's but youcould also look for anything from Redheads and, indeed a ny other with Jarrow, Hebburn, Tyne Dock or South Shields as their address Geoff Nicholson

Hi Jack, In my earlier message I told you that the LDS library catalogue has films for Ellingham, you quoted Ellingham in your message below. Since then it has been mentioned that Shipley comes into, or is very close to, Eglingham, note spelling difference. The LDS library catalogue has various listings for the PRs of Eglingham CofE parish church, you might find the baptisms, including those for people who lived in Shipley perhaps. With having the first name Ignatius perhaps the family were Roman Catholic and therefore very likely baptised their children in that faith rather than in a CofE church. If this is the case then maybe other listers can direct you to the nearest RC church to Shipley/Eglingham so that you can search the LDS library catalogue for those RC records to see if they are on any LDS films. Regards Jenny DeAngelis Spain. <<Hello all I was wondering if any one has access to Parish records before 1766 for Ellingham or Shipley , or Belford, If I am write Ignatius Main lived there and he and his wife had several children there before 1766 LDS records start about 1777 to late for me. I would be grateful for any help>>

Hello Listers, I am researching a line of the ROBSON family who lived in the Sunderland area of Co. Durham and later moved to Carr Hill, Heworth, Gateshead via Newcastle on Tyne. Ralph ROBSON married Ann CONSTANTINE on 16 Apr 1843 in Monkwearmouth. I believe that Ann was born in Langcliffe on 19 Aug 1821 (IGI) the daughter of William CONSTANTINE and Ellen REDMAYNE. (IGI has her born in Giggleswick) she is also recorded as coming from Settle in C71. Ralph is possibly the Ralph ROBSON born in Bishopwearmouth on 19 Oct 1808 parents Ralph ROBSON and Sarah ANTHONY. (IGI) He was recorded as a widower on their marriage certificate. The family of Ralph and first wife: Sarah ROBSON bn. about 1833. IGI has a Sarah ROBSON born on 24 Feb 1833 the daughter of Ralph ROBSON and Mary HOLMES who were married on 13 Dec 1829 in Sunderland. In the 1851 census a Sarah is living with the family of Ralph and Ann ROBSON in Carr Hill, Heworth. Children of Ralph and Ann ROBSON: Margaret ROBSON bn abt 1841 Detford (C51) Eleanor ROBSON bn abt 1844 Detford (C51) Ellen bn Sunderland (C61) Frances ROBSON bn abt 1847 Newcastle on Tyne (C51), Sunderland (C61) I think Frances married Charles WALKER in abt 1870. Mary ROBSON bn abt 1850 Gateshead (C51) Mary married George OLIVER in abt 1870 Elizabeth ROBSON bn abt 1850 Heworth (C61) Isabella ROBSON Bn 26 Sep 1854 in Carr Hill, Gateshead. The family were recorded as living in Park Street Gateshead at the time. Isabella married William John BROWN on 13 Apr 1874 in Heworth. William T. ROBSON bn abt 1857 Heworth (C61) William was living with sister Mary Oliver at 5 Romulus Street, Gateshead in 1881 (C81) Margaret A. ROBSON bn abt 1860 Heworth (C61) Mary J. ROBSON bn abt 1866 Heworth (71) Ann is recorded as a widow in the 1871C. Ralph possibly died in 1866 (I am still to check the death record on this) I realise that ROBSON is a very common name in the North of England but hope that someone may have turned up something on this line. Thank you all, Kind regards Jan Peasnell/Melbourne/Oz

In a message dated 03/11/2009 02:45:00 GMT Standard Time, janicepeasnell@gmail.com writes: I am researching a line of the ROBSON family who lived in the Sunderland area of Co. Durham and later moved to Carr Hill, Heworth, Gateshead via Newcastle on Tyne. Ralph ROBSON married Ann CONSTANTINE on 16 Apr 1843 in Monkwearmouth. I believe that Ann was born in Langcliffe on 19 Aug 1821 (IGI) the daughter of William CONSTANTINE and Ellen REDMAYNE. (IGI has her born in Giggleswick) she is also recorded as coming from Settle in C71. Ralph is possibly the Ralph ROBSON born in Bishopwearmouth on 19 Oct 1808 parents Ralph ROBSON and Sarah ANTHONY. (IGI) He was recorded as a widower on their marriage certificate. Jan: You are lucky in that your Ralph Robson was baptised during the "Barrington period" (1798-1812), when baptism records in C of E churches throughout the Diocese of Durham were very fully detailed. That for Ralph reads (ex-H M Wood transcript): Ralph Robson, (birth) 19 Oct, (baptism) 20 Nov, 4th son of Ralph Robson, bottlemaker, N[ative] of South Shields, by his wife Sarah, late Anthony, N[ative] of Sunderland. No doubt a little search in the registers of Bishopwearmouth and/or South Shields, aided perhaps by the IGI, would reveal Ralph's three elder brothers and possibly other siblings. Geoff Nicholson

Thanks Bruce. If they are doing family research and show a Mary Lightly b abt 1815 in Houghton Le Spring, it would be wonderful to connect with them. As yet, have not found marriage between Robert Johnston and Mary Lightly, but their 1st child a daughter Frances Lightly Johnston Johnston's GRO birth show born 21st Nov 1841 Bamburgh, Belford Union, Durham & Northumberland Counties and show parents as married. Next 9 children were born in Roxburgh, Roxburghshire, Scotland. No further info found on Mary Lightly but plan to try finding a marriage in Scotland abt 1840-41 possibly Sprouston, Roxburghshire where Robert was born. If necessary, contact me off line. Gail Manitoba -----Original Message----- From: northumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:northumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Dodd Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 8:32 PM To: northumbria@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NMB] Houghton Le Spring Surname: Lightly To Gail in Canada Just in case it can help you, a Fred and Addie Lightly emigrated with my father from Sunderland or thereabouts to Toronto in 1910. They are long gone now, but I think I could find at least one of their daughters when I get home to Ottawa - I'm on the road at the moment. If you are interested, let me know, but I'll have to reply off line because they are about my age and possibly still living. Bruce Dodd The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message