The database of Northumberland Farm Index lists four places called Horse Close 1) Within the Featherstone Township of Parish of Haltwhistle 2) Within the Melkridge Township " " " 3) In the Parish of Bywell St Peter 4) In the Parish of Simonburn Mickley, Mickley Square and Mickley Grange lay within Ovingham Parish which was neighbour of Bywell St Peter Parish. Ovingham and Bywell St Peter parishes were some distance from Haltwhistle Parish. Michael

Postcode for St Thomas' Crescent NE1 4LG Kath > St Thomas' Crescent runs from St Thomas' Street to Leazes Park Road. Grand old terraces on both sides of the road.

Rod Strong wrote: > Thanks for that. I'm researching the life of W J Sanderson, a > Newcastle philanthropist of the late Victorian, Edwardian era and > he and his father lived there for some years. I guess the whole St > Andrews area was up-market as some of the family lived in St > Thomas's Crescent, which I cannot find at all on modern maps. Rod St Thomas' Crescent runs from St Thomas' Street to Leazes Park Road. Grand old terraces on both sides of the road. Brian -- Brian Pears (Gateshead, UK) http://www.bpears.org.uk/ Joint List Admin NORTHUMBRIA Genealogy Mailing List GENUKI Northumberland Maintainer

Hi Gerry, Thanks for that. I'm researching the life of W J Sanderson, a Newcastle philanthropist of the late Victorian, Edwardian era and he and his father lived there for some years. I guess the whole St Andrews area was up-market as some of the family lived in St Thomas's Crescent, which I cannot find at all on modern maps. Thanks again, Rod S. -----Original Message----- From: gerry.langley@tiscali.co.uk [mailto:gerry.langley@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 16 November 2009 15:31 To: northumbria@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NMB] Claremont Place Hi Rod, Claremont Place faces the east fence of the R.V.I. Much of it is now either University property or Departments of the R.V.I. They are Huge Terraced houses of that era and would certainly be classed as "Posh". Regards Gerry Fun games for all the family from Tiscali Play - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/play

Brian Pears wrote: > I'm not aware of any proposal to put local wills online. Pity! Alan I'm completely wrong. List member Adi has mentioned the North East Inheritance Project: http://familyrecords.dur.ac.uk/nei/ which aims to put Durham and Northumberland probate records (1527-1857) online in 2010. http://familyrecords.dur.ac.uk/nei/NEI_progress.htm Brian -- Brian Pears (Gateshead, UK) http://www.bpears.org.uk/ Joint List Admin NORTHUMBRIA Genealogy Mailing List GENUKI Northumberland Maintainer

Carol Ann Logan wrote: > This lot specialised in telling whoppers in many cases such as > age at date of marriage, census etc etc. Carol Many of my ancestors specialised in lying and hypocrisy too. All that mattered were "appearances" - truth, apparently, mattered not one jot. And it wasn't confined to the past - it happens today too as I often find when interviewing relatives. To many, rewriting history seems to come as naturally as breathing. And it's not just scandals which are covered up, sometimes ridiculous, trivial things - like the fact that hubby was younger than his bride - are lied about just as avidly as one might lie about uncle Jack being a cat burglar. The moral is: whatever the source, documentary or anecdotal it matters not, you must check everything. Our relatives lie to us - our ancestors lied to vicars, registrars and enumerators. Every "factoid" should have have two, preferably three, completely independent and different sources. It seems like overkill but in the face of frequent deliberate efforts to distort the truth, it is important. Brian -- Brian Pears (Gateshead, UK) http://www.bpears.org.uk/ Joint List Admin NORTHUMBRIA Genealogy Mailing List GENUKI Northumberland Maintainer

Alan Yarrow wrote: > Is there any further clarification when these are going to be made available on-line like the Canterbury ones? Alan I'm not aware of any proposal to put local wills online. Pity! Brian -- Brian Pears (Gateshead, UK) http://www.bpears.org.uk/ Joint List Admin NORTHUMBRIA Genealogy Mailing List GENUKI Northumberland Maintainer

Hi Rod, Claremont Place faces the east fence of the R.V.I. Much of it is now either University property or Departments of the R.V.I. They are Huge Terraced houses of that era and would certainly be classed as "Posh". Regards Gerry Fun games for all the family from Tiscali Play - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/play

Huge apologies for not responding promptly to the mails from Brian and Geoff regarding my query "address of convenience". I had to go out of town and had no access to e-mail for a few days. I'm sorry if my query was not clearly laid out, Geoff, but my thanks to both you and Brian for your input. Brian hit the nail on the head - "although the couples were married and supposedly resident in Newcastle, their previous and subsequent children were born elsewhere. Suggesting that their residence was elsewhere and they'd just temporarily moved to Newcastle to marry." All four couples were almost certainly resident in Cambois or Blyth, from other evidence such as census returns and the birthplaces of their children, so it was a mystery why they would marry in Newcastle unless "the couple had lied about their marital status and all their friends and neighbours thought they were married when they weren't. They couldn't marry locally without revealing the lie, " I had wondered myself whether that was the reason, especially as they lied on 1911 census about how long they had been married and one couple reckoned they were wed in Manchester, which was clearly a porky pie. This lot specialised in telling whoppers in many cases such as age at date of marriage, census etc etc. Peversely, they are also some of the most interesting. Thank you again for the help. Best wishes Carol-Ann LOGAN in sunny Oman _________________________________________________________________ Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/

Brian, Is there any further clarification when these are going to be made available on-line like the Canterbury ones? regards Alan Yarrow

Hi, Can anyone with a knowledge of central Newcastle yesteryear help please? I am looking for the location of Claremont Place which nowadays appears to be within the Newcastle Royal Victoria Infirmary. Does any know if in 1891 this would have been classed as a 'posh' area? TIA, Rod Strong

Hi to you all, To the many kind people who wrote, A big thank you. I have lots to go on with. regards Alan D

Due to the nature of the following questions I invite direct replies. I am new to genealogy and have found this group most helpful in answering my queries but. I would like to do more of the research. At the moment facts are kindly provided without me having any idea where they were gleaned from. Many sites I have visited request a subscription or pay as you go. Can I ask which is the most used sites etc. as I need some guidance. I notice or have failed to notice that we have a messages archive Thank you in expectation Alan D

A wrote: > Due to the nature of the following questions I invite direct replies. Alan Even with that proviso, you must not ask about commercial enterprises on a Rootsweb mailing list as it is prohibited by our sponsors. Brian -- Brian Pears (Gateshead, UK) http://www.bpears.org.uk/ Joint List Admin NORTHUMBRIA Genealogy Mailing List GENUKI Northumberland Maintainer

John Ayton wrote: > Hi Jim, I lived in Whinfell Rd in the 1960s and 1970s. From memory Darras Hall > farmhouse was on Edgehill just around the corner from where we lived. I > don't remember turkeys being farmed there though.. There is some info about > the building in one of my Ponteland books but not from the period you are > referring too. Perhaps if you could let us konw the family name it may > ring bells. My dad had a garage in Ponteland and lots of folks had accounts > with us.. Yours John Ayton Jim/John You'd better take this off-list if you are going to mention the names of people from such recent times. They could well still be alive. Brian -- Brian Pears (Gateshead, UK) http://www.bpears.org.uk/ Joint List Admin NORTHUMBRIA Genealogy Mailing List GENUKI Northumberland Maintainer

Hi Jim, I lived in Whinfell Rd in the 1960s and 1970s. From memory Darras Hall farmhouse was on Edgehill just around the corner from where we lived. I don't remember turkeys being farmed there though.. There is some info about the building in one of my Ponteland books but not from the period you are referring too. Perhaps if you could let us konw the family name it may ring bells. My dad had a garage in Ponteland and lots of folks had accounts with us.. Yours John Ayton > From: jim@gridlad.co.uk > To: northumbria@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:20:11 +0000 > Subject: [NMB] Turkey Farm in Ponteland 1960's > > Hi there > I am trying to find out information relating to a turkey farm that existed > in the 1960's & I visited with my Grandmother. There is a photograph in the > family of a "farm house" with the name DARRAS HALL on the gate, so of the > family believe that is the farm I use to visit, I am not sure. > I believe that there is a link to our family & would like to explore this > connection further. > MTIA > Jim > > > > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them now. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/

Hi there I am trying to find out information relating to a turkey farm that existed in the 1960's & I visited with my Grandmother. There is a photograph in the family of a "farm house" with the name DARRAS HALL on the gate, so of the family believe that is the farm I use to visit, I am not sure. I believe that there is a link to our family & would like to explore this connection further. MTIA Jim

Hi All, I meant Hartburn parish not Netherwitton-sorry if I misled. Yours John > From: WHRutherford@aol.com > Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:31:02 -0500 > To: northumbria@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NMB] Marriage registers > > Thank You John....and apologies to Brian for mentioning the un-mentionable, > > Hazel > > "Life is a roller-coaster...........just got to ride it!" > > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/

H, further to the discussion about marriages I thought that I'd mention that there are a few post 1837 marriages on the Family search BT site. I found some relevant entries in Netherwitton so it is worthwhile checking to see if marriages are included in the parish you are interested in. yours John Ayton _________________________________________________________________ Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access both http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/

Thank You John....and apologies to Brian for mentioning the un-mentionable, Hazel "Life is a roller-coaster...........just got to ride it!"