Hi Kath, Thanks for that. My home town is Sheffield and much the same thing has happened to the beautiful Victorian inner suburbs there, particularly around the Hospital and University area. Regards, Rod S. -----Original Message----- From: Kath Liddell [mailto:k_liddell@btinternet.com] Sent: 17 November 2009 14:39 To: northumbria@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NMB] Claremont Place Postcode for St Thomas' Crescent NE1 4LG Kath > St Thomas' Crescent runs from St Thomas' Street to Leazes Park Road. Grand old terraces on both sides of the road.

Hi Brian, Thanks for that. I made an exploratory 3 day trip a fortnight ago on which I also visited the Woodhorn Archives. It seems that the sources I probably need are split between the local studies at the Newcastle Library, the Tyne & Wear Archives at the Museum and Woodhorn. Anyway I am finding my way around and am to visit again soon. Regards, Rod S -----Original Message----- From: Brian Pears [mailto:bp@bpears.org.uk] Sent: 17 November 2009 14:14 To: northumbria@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NMB] Claremont Place Rod Strong wrote: > Thanks for that. I'm researching the life of W J Sanderson, a > Newcastle philanthropist of the late Victorian, Edwardian era and > he and his father lived there for some years. I guess the whole St > Andrews area was up-market as some of the family lived in St > Thomas's Crescent, which I cannot find at all on modern maps. Rod St Thomas' Crescent runs from St Thomas' Street to Leazes Park Road. Grand old terraces on both sides of the road. Brian -- Brian Pears (Gateshead, UK) http://www.bpears.org.uk/ Joint List Admin NORTHUMBRIA Genealogy Mailing List GENUKI Northumberland Maintainer

Glenn wrote: > you're supposed to be writing your own history, remember. chuckle. Glenn A little friendly banter may occasionally be acceptable. Here however you've quoted the entirety of six posts plus the digest headers - more than 6 kilobytes of data - just to post a single line of comment which you obviously find funny but I find rather rude. You must never under any circumstances quote multiple posts - remember some pay per minute of per Gigabyte for Internet access - and please only post if you've something pertinent to contribute to list. Brian -- Brian Pears (Gateshead, UK) http://www.bpears.org.uk/ Joint List Admin NORTHUMBRIA Genealogy Mailing List GENUKI Northumberland Maintainer

Thanks to all you responded with details of James and Elizabeth Fothergill. As I now know that Elizabeth was a widow at the 1851 census, I 'assume' that husband James Fothergill died either in first quarter 1850 or first quarter 1851 Newcastle. Therir children have baptisms at All Saints, Newcastle where father James is described as a 'rope maker' of Lime St, Newcastle. The children would appear to be Joshua born 1827 William born 1830 Robert born 1832 James born 1835 did he die because: James bapt 11.6.1837 Margaret bapt 15.9.1839 James bapt 1.1.1842 the third 'James' By the time of the 1841 census the first two James' must have died and also Margaret because they are on the 1841 Census as Fotherngill, James and Elizabeth and children Joshua, William and Robert. That leaves me with a couple of problems because there is believed to be another daughter of the marriage, Jane baptised 21.4.1844 St Peters Wallsend (Bishops Transcripts page 329), where father James is described as a 'ropemaker' of Willington Quay. She is later stated to have married George Wallace 1864 and died 11.11.1889 If this is correct, where was she on the 1851 and 1861 Census? Also James (bapt 1.1.1842) also seems to have disappeared by the 1851 Census (however he has been reported as died in 1860 though !) Am I mixing up two families named James and Elizabeth Fothergill? Many thanks to anyone who can help Mike Fairless

Hi Jan Does look like there is more than one Horse Close, I see there is one by Melkridge & Kellan both near Haltwhistle. Jennette Gest nee Byrne QLD AUS jgest@tpg.com.au > Hi Jennette, > Thanks for the map - its nice to know where Horse Close is. > Is Horse Close a village or Hamlet? >

In a message dated 18/11/2009 15:20:28 GMT Standard Time, parkergg@cogeco.ca writes: kath you're supposed to be writing your own history, remember. chuckle. glenn Glenn: Once a query has been posted the original enquirer has no control over how many replies they receive. Insofar as each person responding has their own angle on the question, several answers can all add up to a more rounded result than any single one would do. All that has happened here is that one question has had several answers. That is very different to one person posting lots of questions and giving the impression that they are relying on the list to do their research for them (I'm sure we all have little moans about that from time to time!). Geoff Nicholson

1.FOTHERGILL, Joshua Chr 1827 Engl Nthu NewUpT 2.FOTHERGILL, William Chr 1830 Engl Nthu NewUpT 3.FOTHERGILL, Robert Chr 1832 Engl Nthu NewUpT 4.FOTHERGILL, James Chr 1835 Engl Nthu NewUpT [did this one die] 5.FOTHERGILL, James Chr 1837 Engl Nthu NewUpT [did this one die ?] 6.FOTHERGILL, Margaret Chr 1839 Engl Nthu NewUpT 7.FOTHERGILL, James Christening Christening Date: 1 Jan 1842 Recorded in: Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England All the above christend at All Saints Father: James FOTHERGILL Mother: Elizabeth The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all , looking for the family of James and Elizabeth Fothergill. James was born 1805 and Elizabeth 1807. They are probably in Newcastle as on the 1841 Census they are indexed as Fotherngill with children Joshua 1827, William 1829 and Robert 1832. Did they also have children James 1841 and Jane 1844? Location of the family on the 1851 and 1861 Census would be useful Many thanks Mike Fairless PS anyone else researching Fothergill in the latter half of the 18th Century?

kath you're supposed to be writing your own history, remember. chuckle. glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: <northumbria-request@rootsweb.com> To: <northumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 3:00 AM Subject: NORTHUMBRIA Digest, Vol 4, Issue 469 > > > This list is now sent to you from RootsWeb using new software. The default > format has changed but you can opt to receive the digest in a format more > like the previous one. Just contact the list admin at > northumbria-admin@rootsweb.com > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Where is this place on Family Search? (Jan Boyes) > 2. Re: Where is this place on Family Search? RIDLEY > (otisboat@aol.com) > 3. Re: Where is this place on Family Search? RIDLEY (Kath Liddell) > 4. Re: Where is this place on Family Search? (Kath Liddell) > 5. Re: Where is this place on Family Search? (Jennette Gest) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:30:34 -0000 > From: "Jan Boyes" <markandjanboyes@ntlworld.com> > Subject: Re: [NMB] Where is this place on Family Search? > To: <northumbria@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <90B8499DBED14567BF52DA43F1EFE3FB@JanisPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Thanks very much Michael.. > Jan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Dixymick@aol.com> > To: <northumbria@rootsweb.com> >> >> The database of Northumberland Farm Index lists four places called Horse >> Close >> >> >> Michael > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:57:30 -0500 > From: otisboat@aol.com > Subject: Re: [NMB] Where is this place on Family Search? RIDLEY > To: northumbria@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8CC35F8DB4B84EB-4D68-5623@webmail-m039.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Hi Jan, > Any relation to Cuthbert RIDLEY b. 1740? > My Ridleys were born at Mickley Farms. > Thanks, > Cindy > otisboat@aol.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jan Boyes <markandjanboyes@ntlworld.com> > To: northumbria@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tue, Nov 17, 2009 3:27 pm > Subject: [NMB] Where is this place on Family Search? > > > > Hi, > I'm looking at the baptisms on the family search site at the moment, > and I'm > having trouble reading where someone lived. > Could someone look for me please and tell me. > > Its on the Northumberland section - Haltwhistle - 1758 to 1858. > Image no. 20 > Baptisms in Haltwhistle 1771 > January 16th, Henry son to Matthew and Ann RIDLEY of ? > > If anyone else is researching this family, Henry is my maternal 4xg > grandfather. > > > Thanks, > Jan Boyes > > > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at > http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of > the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:14:08 -0000 > From: "Kath Liddell" <k_liddell@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [NMB] Where is this place on Family Search? RIDLEY > To: <northumbria@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <148CC249C48C4F4AACBFC2D2A29DFCC4@Toshiba> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > A Cuthbert Ridley (or more than one?) also witnessed just about all the > Haltwhistle marriages between 1774 and 1794. > > Kath > ___________________________ > > Any relation to Cuthbert RIDLEY b. 1740? > My Ridleys were born at Mickley Farms. > Thanks, > Cindy > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:10:07 -0000 > From: "Kath Liddell" <k_liddell@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [NMB] Where is this place on Family Search? > To: <northumbria@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <0A575A8A14424E25884991CC24ACBDA5@Toshiba> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Using Jennette's same waggonways site and this link > > http://sites.google.com/site/waggonways/ny/65/ny6560 > > Horse Close Melkridge is in NE corner, coordinates ~ 741 642 > Horse Close Featherstone (near Kellah), W side ~ 669 613 > > Both of these would be covered by Haltwhistle parish registers. > Kath > ______________________ > > 1) Within the Featherstone Township of Parish of Haltwhistle > 2) Within the Melkridge Township " " " > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:27:12 +1000 > From: "Jennette Gest" <jgest@tpg.com.au> > Subject: Re: [NMB] Where is this place on Family Search? > To: <northumbria@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <CD0CEE919C254E23AA6E50CD2FD31A56@user7da5c5916f> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > > Hi Jan > Does look like there is more than one Horse Close, I see there is one by > Melkridge & Kellan both near Haltwhistle. > > Jennette Gest > nee Byrne > QLD AUS > jgest@tpg.com.au > > >> Hi Jennette, >> Thanks for the map - its nice to know where Horse Close is. >> Is Horse Close a village or Hamlet? >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the NORTHUMBRIA list administrator, send an email to > NORTHUMBRIA-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the NORTHUMBRIA mailing list, send an email to > NORTHUMBRIA@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of NORTHUMBRIA Digest, Vol 4, Issue 469 > ******************************************* > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 4616 (20091117) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4618 (20091118) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

Hi Jane If you click into this site http://sites.google.com/site/waggonways/nz/00/nz0065 Look down the bottom of the map & to the right you will see Mickey Grange Horse Close is there. My MITCHELSON family came from there, they went to St Peter of Bywell church. Jennette Gest nee Byrne QLD AUS jgest@tpg.com.au > Hi Jennette, > Thanks very much. > > Jan > >> > > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Boyes" <markandjanboyes@ntlworld.com> To: <northumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [NMB] Where is this place on Family Search? > Hi Jennette, > Thanks very much. > > Jan > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jennette Gest" <jgest@tpg.com.au> > To: <northumbria@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:56 PM > Subject: Re: [NMB] Where is this place on Family Search? > > >> >> Hi Jan >> It's Horseclose. >> >> Jennette Gest >> nee Byrne >> QLD AUS >> jgest@tpg.com.au >> > > > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at > http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Jan It's Horseclose. Jennette Gest nee Byrne QLD AUS jgest@tpg.com.au > Hi, > I'm looking at the baptisms on the family search site at the moment, and > I'm having trouble reading where someone lived. > Could someone look for me please and tell me. > > Its on the Northumberland section - Haltwhistle - 1758 to 1858. Image > no. 20 > Baptisms in Haltwhistle 1771 > January 16th, Henry son to Matthew and Ann RIDLEY of ? > > If anyone else is researching this family, Henry is my maternal 4xg > grandfather. > > > Thanks, > Jan Boyes > > > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at > http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

1851 census Widowed Elizabeth with William etc still in N/C. ( 2407-394-1) Joshua with wife Jane and children in Sunderland ( 3778-35-55) William, lodging in the Bedlington Ironworks community and a " moulder", probably working there, Too late for George, but he might have seen son Robert Stephenson. Michael

A Cuthbert Ridley (or more than one?) also witnessed just about all the Haltwhistle marriages between 1774 and 1794. Kath ___________________________ Any relation to Cuthbert RIDLEY b. 1740? My Ridleys were born at Mickley Farms. Thanks, Cindy

Using Jennette's same waggonways site and this link http://sites.google.com/site/waggonways/ny/65/ny6560 Horse Close Melkridge is in NE corner, coordinates ~ 741 642 Horse Close Featherstone (near Kellah), W side ~ 669 613 Both of these would be covered by Haltwhistle parish registers. Kath ______________________ 1) Within the Featherstone Township of Parish of Haltwhistle 2) Within the Melkridge Township " " "

Thanks very much Michael.. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: <Dixymick@aol.com> To: <northumbria@rootsweb.com> > > The database of Northumberland Farm Index lists four places called Horse > Close > > > Michael

Hi Jennette, Thanks for the map - its nice to know where Horse Close is. Is Horse Close a village or Hamlet? Jan > Hi Jan > If you click into this site > > http://sites.google.com/site/waggonways/nz/00/nz0065 > > Look down the bottom of the map & to the right you will see Mickey Grange > Horse Close is there. > > My MITCHELSON family came from there, they went to St Peter of Bywell > church. > Jennette Gest > nee Byrne > QLD AUS > jgest@tpg.com.au > >

Hi Jennette, Thanks very much. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennette Gest" <jgest@tpg.com.au> To: <northumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [NMB] Where is this place on Family Search? > > Hi Jan > It's Horseclose. > > Jennette Gest > nee Byrne > QLD AUS > jgest@tpg.com.au >

Hi, I'm looking at the baptisms on the family search site at the moment, and I'm having trouble reading where someone lived. Could someone look for me please and tell me. Its on the Northumberland section - Haltwhistle - 1758 to 1858. Image no. 20 Baptisms in Haltwhistle 1771 January 16th, Henry son to Matthew and Ann RIDLEY of ? If anyone else is researching this family, Henry is my maternal 4xg grandfather. Thanks, Jan Boyes

Hi Jan, Any relation to Cuthbert RIDLEY b. 1740? My Ridleys were born at Mickley Farms. Thanks, Cindy otisboat@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Jan Boyes <markandjanboyes@ntlworld.com> To: northumbria@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, Nov 17, 2009 3:27 pm Subject: [NMB] Where is this place on Family Search? Hi, I'm looking at the baptisms on the family search site at the moment, and I'm having trouble reading where someone lived. Could someone look for me please and tell me. Its on the Northumberland section - Haltwhistle - 1758 to 1858. Image no. 20 Baptisms in Haltwhistle 1771 January 16th, Henry son to Matthew and Ann RIDLEY of ? If anyone else is researching this family, Henry is my maternal 4xg grandfather. Thanks, Jan Boyes The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message