Just to say I have Kirtleys from Long Benton, Benton etc. Earliest is John born about 1803 In Byker. His wife was Mary Vardy & I have them with 6 children Hope that might help someone. Best wishes -------------------------------------------------- From: "Kath Liddell" <k_liddell@btinternet.com> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 12:03 AM To: <northumbria@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [NMB] KIRTLEY >> In 1911 there is a John T Kirkley 12 in Tynemouth workhouse - could he >> be yours? > ___________________ > > Sorry, the inmate in Tynemouth workhouse is John Kirtley 12, b Gateshead, > so must be a different person. > The family is at 33 Cross Row, West Moor, Longbenton, Northumberland > (Tynemouth RD) > > Ref 1911 RG14PN30777 RG78PN1759 RD559 SD3 ED6 SN36 > > Kirtley - Joseph 40, Anna Margaret 39, Thomas 11, Joseph 9, Jane Ethel 17, > Elizabeth Ann 15, Anna Bell 7, Hilda 1 > Thompson - Charles Henry 24, nephew > > This couple were married 19 years, had 9 children, 6 living, 3 died. Since > there are six living children listed here, your John Thomas must be the > Thomas 11. > Hope this helps. > Kath > > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at > http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

All Is anyone researching the Hudspeth name? I am hoping to get some assistance with an ancestor who has his middle name as 'Hudspeth' but I don't know why ! Details are George Hudspeth Fothergill born 5.3.1803, bapt 8.5.1803 Heworth to parents Joshua Fothergill and Margaret Mills (married 11.5.1802 St John's Newcastle). I suspect that he probably died in infancy but I would like to know why the middle name 'Hudspeth' was used, probbaly a maiden name somewhere down the line but which one and when please? Many thanks Mike Fairless

I am wondering can anyone help me trace the descendants of two brothers both born in Carlisle Cumbria the sons of John Sewell and Mary Douglas John Sewell b.1857 married Catherine Henry feb.1883 Cockermoth Cumberland she was born 1861 Carlisle. 4 older children born Cumberland younger ones born Jarrow Mary Ann b1884, John b 1885, George b 1886, Henrietta b 1888, Thomas H.b 1889 William b 1891, Francis b 1893, Robert b1897, David b 1900 William Sewell b.1867 Carlisle married Annie Kirkbride 1901 Cockermouth John b.Maryport Cumberland1901,Mary Ann.b 1903, Edith b1906 Wallsend, William Douglas b 1912 Tynemouth I believe some of the above were living Wallsend 1940s Any info on any of the above would be gratefully appreciated Audrey

Dear Listers, I have tried to join the ' MORPETH ' list as this is the area I am interested in but with no luck so have now gone to Northumbria, hoping that someone may be able to help me.. I have a birth for John Thomas KIRTLEY - 4 September 1899 - Morpeth District. Ref. 10b 426. I have been unable to find him on the 1901 Census but have found two others who are slightly older and born in either Washington or Norton, Co, Durham. I am interested in who his Parents were. He married Ann MITCHELSON in 1923 in the Tynemouth District. If anyone is going to the records office and could do a look up for me on John Thomas KIRTLEY to find his Parents I would be extremely grateful. Many thanks, Judy Brown Queensland, Australia.

> The voting qualifications were: > 1969 Everybody over 18. I'm pretty sure that was 1 Jan 1970 - I am one of the people who it affected, so I kind of remember. Julia Say Archivist, Northumbrian Pipers Society N. Pipers: Any in NBL or DUR Family: SAY (SOM C19, WIL C14-18), NICHOLLS (WIL C19, GLS C17-18) NORTON (NBL C19), LAKE (NBL C19)

> From: keijud13@bigpond.net.au > To: NORTHUMBRIA@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 09:15:27 +1000 > Subject: [NMB] KIRTLEY > > Dear Listers, > > I have tried to join the ' MORPETH ' list as this is the area I am interested in but with no luck so have now gone to Northumbria, hoping that someone may be able to help me.. > > I have a birth for John Thomas KIRTLEY - 4 September 1899 - Morpeth District. Ref. 10b 426. Judy, Probably the best way to proceed from here is to obtain John's birth certificate. This will give the names of his parents, and other potentially useful information. Certificates are available from local registrars, or from GRO (General Register Office). There is a fee. If you do a web search you will find plenty of information. Whilst there is now a vast amount of information available online, there is often no substitute for paper records. Regards, Russ _________________________________________________________________ Send us your Hotmail stories and be featured in our newsletter http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/

Francis and Grace Forster of Low Buston (near Warkworth) are my ancestors. The following paragraph contains a reference to Francis and Grace. "The MS. volume . . . exhibited contains a ledger of Nicholas Forster of Newcastle, merchant, kept with great neatness between 1641 & 1654, and also a series of accounts, entered by his executor, of his ventures and liabilities at the time of his death. Nicholas Forster was of the Newham family, whose pedigree was worked out, as well as the material would admit, in volume I. of the new History of Northumberland. He died in ripe age in October, 1679, whilst on a visit to his niece Grace, wife of Francis Forster of Low Buston, and was buried at Bamburgh on the 28th of that month, apparently with the feasting and pomp used by the Forster clan at that period. . . ." [Source: Proceedings of the Society of Antiquaries of Newcastle-upon-Tyne; Vol. VII, No. 26, 1896; presentation by Mr. J. Crawford Hodgson, who exhibited the account book of Nicholas Forster.] I need to find the Forster of Newham pedigree referred to above - apparently published in Vol. 1 of the Northumberland County History. I have been unable to find the pedigree online. Suggestions? Thank you. William Forster Archerd Colorado USA

> In 1911 there is a John T Kirkley 12 in Tynemouth workhouse - could he be yours? ___________________ Sorry, the inmate in Tynemouth workhouse is John Kirtley 12, b Gateshead, so must be a different person. The family is at 33 Cross Row, West Moor, Longbenton, Northumberland (Tynemouth RD) Ref 1911 RG14PN30777 RG78PN1759 RD559 SD3 ED6 SN36 Kirtley - Joseph 40, Anna Margaret 39, Thomas 11, Joseph 9, Jane Ethel 17, Elizabeth Ann 15, Anna Bell 7, Hilda 1 Thompson - Charles Henry 24, nephew This couple were married 19 years, had 9 children, 6 living, 3 died. Since there are six living children listed here, your John Thomas must be the Thomas 11. Hope this helps. Kath

> I have a birth for John Thomas KIRTLEY - 4 September 1899 - Morpeth District. Ref. 10b 426. _______________________________ Judy, here is a possible family for you. 1901, RG13 / 4836, fol 43, p 12, ED 23 52 Maple Street, Hirst, Northumberland (in Morpeth RD) Joseph Kirkley, head, m, 28, coal miner hewer, b Sunderland, Durham Ann Kirkley, wife, m, 30, -----, b Seaton Delaval, Northumberland Charles H Thompson, nephew, s, 14, groom apprentice, b Burradon, Northumberland Jane E Kirkley, daur, s, 7, -----, b Burradon, Northumberland Elizabeth A Kirkley, daur, s, 5, ----- , b Burradon, Northumberland John T Kirkley, son, s, 1, ----- , b New Hirst, Northumberland Mary J Anderson, moth-in-law, m, 61, ----- , Willington, Northumberland In 1911 there is a John T Kirkley 12 in Tynemouth workhouse - could he be yours? Good luck. Kath

> The voting qualifications were: > 1918 Men over 21, women over 30, servicemen over 19. > 1928 Everybody over 21. > 1969 Everybody over 18. __________________________________ The thread on Electoral Registers has reminded me of a longstanding question concerning additional qualifications marked in the Newcastle Parliamentary Registers. These may appear next to a person's name, for example "a" = "absent voter", as well as R, B and O for Residence, Business and Occupation qualifications, but I am interested to know the meaning of the following: # ... not entitled to vote in respect of that entry at elections of Guardians other than casual vacancies $ ... not entitled to vote in respect of that entry at elections of Councillors for the City and County of Newcastle upon Tyne J ... Juror SJ ... Special Juror My grandparents married in 1917 and lived 1917-1924 at 95 Gloucester Street (Stephenson Ward); they then moved to 56 Juliet Street (Armstrong Ward) until about 1928. Against my grandfather's name in volumes 1922b, 1923a and 1923b is the mark "J". How did one become a Juror in those days - and what was a Special Juror? In volumes 1924a and 1924b are the marks "#" and "$". These marks seemed to have been an exception rather than the rule, but I have not been able to find the significance. My grandfather was said to have acquired some other property locally too, but I've yet to find where - don't know if that has anything to do with it. Thanks for any help. Kath

Hi all Just a note,on the subject of Electoral Registers, we have been trying to get hold of the Electoral registers for Whitley Bay in the 1920's to 1940's and they have apparently been destroyed. We tried at North Tyneside Local Studies, Whitley Bay Libaray, Tyne Wear Archives and as a last resort Woodhorn. The reason given was that they are superceded each year and someone thought they weren't needed as the new information was given in the following year. The Tynemouth Registers are there and Wallsend too so it leads me to think it was when the Borough's were amalgamated this occurred. It just makes you wonder what else went the journey at that time, perhaps we will never know. Marg

Hi Can someone tell me if there are any electoral rolls available online for the Stanley area Co. Durham please. Kind regards Dianna

On 07/02/2010 09:52, DC Taunton wrote: > Could you tell me when electoral roles were first started please? They've been kept since 1832, but they don't all survive. You'll need to check with the County Record Office/main library for the area concerned to see if the register you want still exists.. Of course it's important to remember that children are never listedon electoral registers, and that prior to 1928, not all adults were listed either. The voting qualifications were: 1832 Men owning property worth £2 per year or more. 1867 Men owning/renting property worth £5 per year or more. 1884 Men owning/lodging in property worth £10 per year or more. 1918 Men over 21, women over 30, servicemen over 19. 1928 Everybody over 21. 1969 Everybody over 18. Prior to 1832 there were poll books which were compiled after elections and showed how everyone had voted. They are of limited value to genealogists because very few people were entitled to vote at that time. Brian -- Brian Pears (Gateshead, UK) http://www.bpears.org.uk/ Joint List Admin NORTHUMBRIA Genealogy Mailing List GENUKI Northumberland Maintainer

Could you tell me when electoral roles were first started please? Many thanks -------------------------------------------------- From: "dianna charles" <diamonddi57@optusnet.com.au> Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 12:41 AM To: <northumbria@rootsweb.com> Subject: [NMB] Electoral Rolls > Hi > Can someone tell me if there are any electoral rolls available online > for the Stanley area Co. Durham please. Kind regards Dianna > > > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at > http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 07/02/2010 00:41, dianna charles wrote: > Can someone tell me if there are any electoral rolls available online > for the Stanley area Co. Durham please. Dianna No, unfortunately not - you'll have to go to Durham County Record Office to see them. Brian -- Brian Pears (Gateshead, UK) http://www.bpears.org.uk/ Joint List Admin NORTHUMBRIA Genealogy Mailing List GENUKI Northumberland Maintainer

The website for Berwick Parish Church lists all the Vicars from 1291 to date. John Smithson was Vicar from 1664 - 1672. Alan Vickers.

Many thanks Alan. Ruth in Hambledon, Hampshire "The Cradle of Cricket" -----Original Message----- From: northumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:northumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of alan-vickers@lineone.net Sent: 06 February 2010 18:23 To: northumbria@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NMB] Berwick Vicar The website for Berwick Parish Church lists all the Vicars from 1291 to date. John Smithson was Vicar from 1664 - 1672. Alan Vickers. The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2671 - Release Date: 02/06/10 07:35:00

Does SKS know who was vicar of Berwick in 1666? The record of a marriage in Cockburnspath BER refers to receiving a "testificat" from him on behalf of the husband in a marriage, but the name is difficult to decipher. Many thanks Ruth in Hambledon, Hampshire "The Cradle of Cricket"

My 4xgreat grandmother was Mary Ann Stokoe born in Beaufront in 1816. I can't find Beaufront on any map .could somebody tell me exactly where it is please. also the nearest church as I would also like to find who here parents were. Thanks for your help. Kevynne

Hello List could anyone please tell me where I might find the burials of a Mark MYERS and a Thomas MYERS who both died in 1838 in Newcastle They were living in Keelmans Hospital when Thomas died and still there on the 1841 census Thomas died aged 56 and Mark aged 2 I have checked the All Saints register but they are not there any information would be gratefully received regards keith walker