Thank you Mildred My father was apprenticed as a boilermaker in the early 1930's but was laid off as soon as he finished. He retrained in the building trade at Wallsend Stadium and came down to Lincolnshire to work on the airfields in preparation for WW2. You are lucky to have records. My family threw everything away! I am the opposite Delia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mildred Robson" <mildredrobson@ukonline.co.uk> To: "Northumbria list" <NORTHUMBRIA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 2:24 PM Subject: [NMB] Shipyard apprentices > My father in law commenced his five year apprenticeship as a ship's > draughtsman at the age of fifteen at Swan Hunter and Wigham Richardson > Ltd, > on 2nd. September 1918 and was lucky in that he was kept on as a > journeyman > for one year before losing his job due to lack of work. His reference > dated > 17th, September 1924 says " it is only through slackness of work that we > are > compelled to dispense with his services" > At this time my father who served a five year apprenticeship as a > maintenance electrician was also 'given his cards' due to lack of work. > Both were fortunate to obtained work after this, one at Parsons, Heaton > Works and the other at Hawthorn Leslie's shipyard at Hebburn. > Mildred Robson > > > > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at > http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 4865 (20100214) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > >

My father in law commenced his five year apprenticeship as a ship's draughtsman at the age of fifteen at Swan Hunter and Wigham Richardson Ltd, on 2nd. September 1918 and was lucky in that he was kept on as a journeyman for one year before losing his job due to lack of work. His reference dated 17th, September 1924 says " it is only through slackness of work that we are compelled to dispense with his services" At this time my father who served a five year apprenticeship as a maintenance electrician was also 'given his cards' due to lack of work. Both were fortunate to obtained work after this, one at Parsons, Heaton Works and the other at Hawthorn Leslie's shipyard at Hebburn. Mildred Robson

Thank you to all the people who sent me information on shipyard apprenticeships and how to find old maps of Willington Quay Much appreciated Delia

I have Elizabeth Kirtley married George Cameron in Sunderland 1800. Does anybody else have this Elizabeth Kirtlry or Kirkley in their tree? Thanks. Kevin

I was born in Nelson St. Willington. Co Durham. From memory Nelson St. was depopulated over about 4-5 years then demolished in very early 50s Alan D Brian Pears wrote: On 13/02/2010 22:07, Delia wrote: Could someone please give me a link to see an online map of Willington Quay/Wil lington/Howdon around 1900. I am looking for Parker's Cottages (my grandfather Thomas SNOWDON's address giv en on his Boer War enlistment details) and Willington House (where my grandmot her Catherine SNOWDON was living in the 1901 census). Does anyone know anythin g about these addresses? I know that they later lived in Nelson Street until they moved to Benjamin Rd R osehill when Nelson St was demolished. Also does anyone know the date these ho uses in Nelson St were pulled down? Delia Use: [1]http://gis.durham.gov.uk/website/interMAP/viewer.htm Navigate up to Willington/Howdon, set the scale to, say, 1:5000 and the date to "Circa 1894-1899". Brian References 1. http://gis.durham.gov.uk/website/interMAP/viewer.htm

Delia, I can confirm as Brian has said, 5 years was the normal time for an apprenticeship. There were quite a few yards along both North and South banks Tyne at that time, perhaps Smith's Dock would have been the nearest to Willington Quay. Mike Temple, Spain. ex-Parsons Marine apprentice. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Delia" <deliamontlake@tesco.net> To: <northumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 5:04 PM Subject: [NMB] shipyard apprentices > How long were shipyard appreticeships in the 1920's? My father served an > apprenticeship, presumably when he left school at 14 in 1926 and I was > told he was got dismissed as soon as he had completed it, as there was no > work. He lived in Willingto Quay but I do not know which shipyard he > worked in. > When he joined the army in 1940 he was later moved into the REME and > became a riveter so I have assumed this had been his trade in the > shipyards. > Any help or guidance for reading on this subject would be appreciated > Delia > > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at > http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2686 - Release Date: 02/13/10 19:35:00

> Could someone please give me a link to see an online map of Willington > Quay/Wil > lington/Howdon around 1900. Delia > I was born in Nelson St. Willington. Co Durham. From memory Nelson St. > was > depopulated over about 4-5 years then demolished in very early 50s > Alan D Dear Alan D, It was the Willington in Northumberland, not the one in County Durham John Walker, Newcastle upon Tyne little.blobby2@btinternet.com http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~littleblobby/ http://www.freewebs.com/littleblobby/

On 13/02/2010 22:07, Delia wrote: > Could someone please give me a link to see an online map of Willington Quay/Willington/Howdon around 1900. > I am looking for Parker's Cottages (my grandfather Thomas SNOWDON's address given on his Boer War enlistment details) and Willington House (where my grandmother Catherine SNOWDON was living in the 1901 census). Does anyone know anything about these addresses? > I know that they later lived in Nelson Street until they moved to Benjamin Rd Rosehill when Nelson St was demolished. Also does anyone know the date these houses in Nelson St were pulled down? Delia Use: http://gis.durham.gov.uk/website/interMAP/viewer.htm Navigate up to Willington/Howdon, set the scale to, say, 1:5000 and the date to "Circa 1894-1899". Brian -- Brian Pears (Gateshead, UK) http://www.bpears.org.uk/ Joint List Admin NORTHUMBRIA Genealogy Mailing List GENUKI Northumberland Maintainer

Could someone please give me a link to see an online map of Willington Quay/Willington/Howdon around 1900. I am looking for Parker's Cottages (my grandfather Thomas SNOWDON's address given on his Boer War enlistment details) and Willington House (where my grandmother Catherine SNOWDON was living in the 1901 census). Does anyone know anything about these addresses? I know that they later lived in Nelson Street until they moved to Benjamin Rd Rosehill when Nelson St was demolished. Also does anyone know the date these houses in Nelson St were pulled down? Thank you Delia

On 13/02/2010 16:04, Delia wrote: > How long were shipyard appreticeships in the 1920's? My father served an apprenticeship, presumably when he left school at 14 in 1926 and I was told he was got dismissed as soon as he had completed it, as there was no work. He lived in Willingto Quay but I do not know which shipyard he worked in. > When he joined the army in 1940 he was later moved into the REME and became a riveter so I have assumed this had been his trade in the shipyards. > Any help or guidance for reading on this subject would be appreciated Delia As far as I'm aware it was usually 5 years starting on the 16th birthday. Brian -- Brian Pears (Gateshead, UK) http://www.bpears.org.uk/ Joint List Admin NORTHUMBRIA Genealogy Mailing List GENUKI Northumberland Maintainer

How long were shipyard appreticeships in the 1920's? My father served an apprenticeship, presumably when he left school at 14 in 1926 and I was told he was got dismissed as soon as he had completed it, as there was no work. He lived in Willingto Quay but I do not know which shipyard he worked in. When he joined the army in 1940 he was later moved into the REME and became a riveter so I have assumed this had been his trade in the shipyards. Any help or guidance for reading on this subject would be appreciated Delia

Just following the discussions on the name KIRTLEY, I have a branch with a very similar surname (KIRKLEY) Edward KIRKLEY born Shotley, Northumberland 1705. Married Hannah LEE born 1717 in Halwhistle 25th June 1738 Daughter Elizabeth KIRKLEYbornShotley 1739, she married Cuthbert HALL also born Shotley in 1764 Anyone else have this name in their ancestry? Paul Paul Andrews 07977 012203 http://www.facebook.com/spandrews http://www.twitter.com/pa035 ________________________________ From: Judy Brown <keijud13@bigpond.net.au> To: NORTHUMBRIA@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 7 February, 2010 23:15:27 Subject: [NMB] KIRTLEY Dear Listers, I have tried to join the ' MORPETH ' list as this is the area I am interested in but with no luck so have now gone to Northumbria, hoping that someone may be able to help me.. I have a birth for John Thomas KIRTLEY - 4 September 1899 - Morpeth District. Ref. 10b 426. I have been unable to find him on the 1901 Census but have found two others who are slightly older and born in either Washington or Norton, Co, Durham. I am interested in who his Parents were. He married Ann MITCHELSON in 1923 in the Tynemouth District. If anyone is going to the records office and could do a look up for me on John Thomas KIRTLEY to find his Parents I would be extremely grateful. Many thanks, Judy Brown Queensland, Australia. The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Joyce Thankyou very much for that much appreciated Kind regards Dianna

Dear Listers, I would like to thank everyone who has given me advice and suggestions in my search for the KIRTLEY Family. I will certainly follow up all the suggestions and see where they all lead me. Again, many thanks to John, Russ, Kath and everyone who replied. Your assistance is greatly appreciated. Regards, Judy.

Hi Could someone kindly look on the 1871 English Census for me for Eliza Jane MARTIN born in Co. Durham Gateshead 1867, her fathers name was Robert born Ireland a labourer aged 37 on 1881 Census, Eliza was 14 on 1881 Census. Thanks in advance Kind regards Dianna

Dianna I found Elizabeth Jane Martain born 1867 Gateshead Durham England on the census. a.. father Robert born 1844 Ireland can't quite make his occupation but looks like furnaceman b.. mother Elizabeth born 1844 Ireland c.. 1 sister Margaret born 1869 born Gateshead Durham d.. Home address 28 Crawshaw St Gateshead Durham England 1871 England Census RG10; Piece: 5057; Folio: 69; Page: 43; GSU roll: 848417 Hope this helps you. Joyce "look on the 1871 English Census for me for Eliza Jane MARTIN born in Co. Durham Gateshead 1867, her fathers name was Robert born Ireland a labourer aged 37 on 1881 Census, Eliza was 14 on 1881 Census."

On 09/02/2010 08:52, audrey render wrote: > Sorry for the misunderstanding but I was not looking for living people .I > was hoping I might connect with some one researching the same line all the > people I listed will be dead Audrey Yes, the people you mentioned will almost certainly be dead but you said you wanted "trace the descendants ...". :-) Brian -- Brian Pears (Gateshead, UK) http://www.bpears.org.uk/ Joint List Admin NORTHUMBRIA Genealogy Mailing List GENUKI Northumberland Maintainer

Brian Sorry for the misunderstanding but I was not looking for living people .I was hoping I might connect with some one researching the same line all the people I listed will be dead Audrey -----Original Message----- From: northumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:northumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf of Brian Pears Sent: 09 February 2010 03:55 To: northumbria@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NMB] SEWELL On 09/02/2010 00:26, Brian Pears wrote: > Sorry but you must not use the list to help you find living > People. We have a strict rule that we not not ask for or > give any information whatsoever about living people. That should, of course, read: Sorry but you must not use the list to help you find living People. We have a strict rule that we must not ask for or give any information whatsoever about living people. Brian -- Brian Pears (Gateshead, UK) http://www.bpears.org.uk/ Joint List Admin NORTHUMBRIA Genealogy Mailing List GENUKI Northumberland Maintainer The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 09/02/2010 00:26, Brian Pears wrote: > Sorry but you must not use the list to help you find living > people. We have a strict rule that we not not ask for or > give any information whatsoever about living people. That should, of course, read: Sorry but you must not use the list to help you find living people. We have a strict rule that we must not ask for or give any information whatsoever about living people. Brian -- Brian Pears (Gateshead, UK) http://www.bpears.org.uk/ Joint List Admin NORTHUMBRIA Genealogy Mailing List GENUKI Northumberland Maintainer

On 08/02/2010 13:31, audrey render wrote: > I am wondering can anyone help me trace the descendants of two brothers both > born in Carlisle Cumbria the sons of John Sewell and Mary Douglas Audrey Sorry but you must not use the list to help you find living people. We have a strict rule that we not not ask for or give any information whatsoever about living people. Brian