Hello Paul, I haven't seen you get any response yet, so here's a bit. She was a busy little ship (at least 20 citations in the shipping news from October 1844 to October 1860), but possibly not a happy one. In that time period,  she went through six masters by my notes (Murdoch, Stewart, Walker, Burn, Newton or Newsome, Wilson), seven counting your Captain Turner. Turner must have taken command after 3 September, 1858 because I see Wilson as master at that date. She was reported in The Newcastle Courant of Friday, 19 October, 1860 as "recently lost" "waterlogged in the North Sea".  There must have been survivors because only two deaths were reported - an unnamed boy and seaman Daniel Andrews of Blyth of  "exposure and exhaustion". Andrews left a widow and young family. One week later, on 26 October, 1860, the Newcastle Courant reported "The Sir John Rennie of this port, bottom up and dismasted, was driven ashore off Rinkjobing." Regards, Adi --- On Sat, 8/8/09, Paul Andrews <andrews43@ntlworld.com> wrote Good morning people I would be interested in any information that anyone would have on the following ship. I understand that she sank in the Baltic Sea in October 1860 following a storm. I've been searching the net for a picture but alas have not been successful yet. Regards Paul SIR JOHN RENNIE - 1859-1860 Master: Captain A. Turner Rigging: Snow Tonnage: 186 tons Construction: 1845 in Sunderland; repairs to damages in 1854 & 1857 Owners: Bowman & Co. Port of registry: Blyth Port of survey: Blyth Voyage: sailed for Denmark (1859); the Baltic Sea (1860)

Karen, The western portion of the fledgling community of Blyth lay in the Township of Cowpen, which lay in the area of the Chapelry of Horton, which was part of the Parish of Woodhorn (although geographically separated by the Parish of Bedlington) Because of population growth and shift a Chapel of Ease was built in Blyth ( St Mary's) in 1860s which eventually became an parish in it's own right, independent of Horton. The other half of Blyth had developed in the territory of the Parish of Earsdon. A Chapel of Ease, St Cuthbert's, was established slightly earlier , late 1850s. St Cuthberts also got it's independence from it's mother parish. But by today, Blyth has gobbled all it's elders and rules the roost ! Michael

On 24/04/2010 12:19, Karen Lynn wrote: > Andrew DICK and Anna JOHNSON were married on 2nd August 1840. The > certificate (from the GRO) says: "Marriage solemnized in the Chapelry of > Horton in the Parish of (unclear) in the County of Northumberland" Karen Horton, St Mary the Virgin was a Chapelry in the Parish of Woodhorn, St Mary the Virgin. So your unclear bit will be "Woodhorn". Brian

Following my query yesterday about "Blyton" (thanks to Brian for confirming what I suspected), I now have a query about a marriage certificate in the same general area! Andrew DICK and Anna JOHNSON were married on 2nd August 1840. The certificate (from the GRO) says: "Marriage solemnized in the Chapelry of Horton in the Parish of (unclear) in the County of Northumberland" I'm trying to decipher/research what the unclear bit might be: the extract from Whellan's 1855 History, Topography, and Directory of Northumberland ( http://www.bpears.org.uk/genuki/NBL/Horton/) says that in 1768 it obtained all the privileges of a distinct parish ... so I'm now confused as to why it would be described as being in another parish, or indeed which. The copy isn't clear, but I think what is written is something of a similar shape to Noadhouse ?? Thanks again in anticipation, Karen

Thanks Brian Unfortunately there is nothing there either. John > On 23 /04/2010 20:53 Brian Pears wrote: > > If the deceased held any property in the Province of Canterbury > (the southern half of the country), the will would have been > proved at the Prerogative Court of Canterbury (PCC) even if the > chap lived and died in our area and had property here too. You > can actually search and download PCC wills from the National > Archives: > > http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/wills.asp

Thanks for your reply Val, but I've already tried there. John > On 23/04/2010 16:12 Val wrote: > > Try Durham University Library > > www.dur.ac.uk/library

On 23/04/2010 21:44, Karen Lynn wrote: > The birth certificate gives the Registration District as "Tynemouth Union", > and the Sub-district as "Blyton". I can't find any mention of an area > called Blyton around Tynemouth: is it an error and it should be the (to me > at least) more likely "Blyth"? Karen There is no "Blyton" Sub-district, so yes, it will be "Blyth". Brian

I wonder if listers could confirm or deny that the GRO have made an error on a birth certificate that I have just received. The certificate is for William DICK, born 12 October 1845 at Cowpen. I understood Cowpen to be a locality in Blyth - which is the birthplace given in the 1861, 1871, 1891 and 1901 censuses. The birth certificate gives the Registration District as "Tynemouth Union", and the Sub-district as "Blyton". I can't find any mention of an area called Blyton around Tynemouth: is it an error and it should be the (to me at least) more likely "Blyth"? Many thanks, Karen

On 23/04/2010 15:50, John Hall wrote: > Neither Borthwick nor Durham could provide a copy of the wills so does > anyone know if it is possible that they could be archived somewhere else? > > The deaths took place in the Haydon Bridge/Haltemprice area. John If the deceased held any property in the Province of Canterbury (the southern half of the country), the will would have been proved at the Prerogative Court of Canterbury (PCC) even if the chap lived and died in our area and had property here too. You can actually search and download PCC wills from the National Archives: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/wills.asp Brian

Hi John, Try Durham University Library www.dur.ac.uk/library Regards Val Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 3:50 PM Subject: [NMB] Where can I find pre1858 wills other than Borthwick andDurham? >I have seen details from two pre-1858 wills (c1732 and 1771), one in a book > on Google Books, A history of Northumberland, in three parts, Volumes 2-3, > by Thomas Bell, and the other from information deposited at Woodhorn by W > Percy Hedley. Both give snippets from the wills but it is extremely likely > that there is much more information to be gained from the wills > themselves. > > > > Neither Borthwick nor Durham could provide a copy of the wills so does > anyone know if it is possible that they could be archived somewhere else? > > > > The deaths took place in the Haydon Bridge/Haltemprice area. > > > > Regards > > John Hall > > > > > > > > > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at > http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have seen details from two pre-1858 wills (c1732 and 1771), one in a book on Google Books, A history of Northumberland, in three parts, Volumes 2-3, by Thomas Bell, and the other from information deposited at Woodhorn by W Percy Hedley. Both give snippets from the wills but it is extremely likely that there is much more information to be gained from the wills themselves. Neither Borthwick nor Durham could provide a copy of the wills so does anyone know if it is possible that they could be archived somewhere else? The deaths took place in the Haydon Bridge/Haltemprice area. Regards John Hall

Whilst looking for Elsdon Castle on google, I found a site that will come in handy! www.northofthetyne.co.uk "Castles and Illustrated Walks from the Tyne to the Tweed" Good photos, downloadable walk directions and parking suggestions. Historical information about the castles too! Gen in NBL, UK _________________________________________________________________ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/197222280/direct/01/ Do you have a story that started on Hotmail? Tell us now

Hello, I am a new Subscriber, My gggf. John Elliott was born in Hartburn, Northumberland in1881. [ref.1851 Census] I have traced him and his wife Millborough with his immediate family beyond 1851 to Hertfordshire and London. I am now looking prior to 1851, when the family lived in Hartburn, any advice or information to advance my search would be most welcome. Bob.

Hi brian Just registered on list and found this excellent. You are able to do a search on the images and found 3 photos of bulmer street which is there no more and where my father in law was brought up. Many thanks Neale Sent using BlackBerry® from Orange -----Original Message----- From: Doreen Welch <doreenwelch@yahoo.ca> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 07:31:53 To: <northumbria@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [NMB] Images of Newcastle Oh Brian, These pictures will take me ages and ages to go thru them all, but it will be well worth it. Thanks for the site information.  Much appreciated. Regards, Doreen --- On Tue, 4/20/10, Brian Pears <bp@bpears.org.uk> wrote: From: Brian Pears <bp@bpears.org.uk> Subject: [NMB] Images of Newcastle To: northumbria@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 8:50 AM Hi This Flickr photostream has more than 6500 historic images of Newcastle and the surrounding area. They were uploaded by Newcastle Libraries. http://www.flickr.com/photos/newcastlelibraries/4098876520/in/photostream/ Brian -- Brian Pears  (Gateshead, UK)    http://www.bpears.org.uk/        Joint List Admin NORTHUMBRIA Genealogy Mailing List                GENUKI Northumberland Maintainer The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Oh Brian, These pictures will take me ages and ages to go thru them all, but it will be well worth it. Thanks for the site information.  Much appreciated. Regards, Doreen --- On Tue, 4/20/10, Brian Pears <bp@bpears.org.uk> wrote: From: Brian Pears <bp@bpears.org.uk> Subject: [NMB] Images of Newcastle To: northumbria@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 8:50 AM Hi This Flickr photostream has more than 6500 historic images of Newcastle and the surrounding area. They were uploaded by Newcastle Libraries. http://www.flickr.com/photos/newcastlelibraries/4098876520/in/photostream/ Brian -- Brian Pears  (Gateshead, UK)    http://www.bpears.org.uk/        Joint List Admin NORTHUMBRIA Genealogy Mailing List                GENUKI Northumberland Maintainer The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thankyou to all who answered my query about early death certs. Shirley.

We would like to make contact with families that were related to Mary Alice Lamb.She was born in Gateshead in 1907 and immigrated to new Zealand in 1929. thanks Kevin and Lynne

From: "Brian Pears" <bp@bpears.org.uk> > Towns and cities had street names and houses numbers or names > from an early date and this practice spread to smaller and > smaller places, but even in the first decade of the 20th > century some hamlets were still without house or street names. > Hi Brian, I was born in Norham in North Northumberland, which is quite a large village, yet apart from the council housing estates, there were no street names/numbers until the village postman Alan Hill retired around 1958. At that time the post office made the council erect street name signs and all houses were required to be numbered. Postal deliveries were then made by van from Berwick. Prior to this, houses were mainly named, we lived in 'Ancrum Lodge' and 'Branxton House' but letters addressed to my father as Tommy Simpson, Joiner, Norham, Northumberland were always delivered correctly. As you say, everyone knew everyone else so street addresses were irrelevant. Mike Simpson Penrith, NSW.

On 21/04/2010 00:16, Kevin & Lynne Hyde wrote: > We would like to make contact with families that were related to > Mary Alice Lamb.She was born in Gateshead in 1907 and immigrated > to new Zealand in 1929. Kevin & Lynne Sorry but you cannot use the list to try to contact or find information about living people. Brian -- Brian Pears (Gateshead, UK) http://www.bpears.org.uk/ Joint List Admin NORTHUMBRIA Genealogy Mailing List GENUKI Northumberland Maintainer

Hi! Lynne, My wife has a Samuel Tweddell marring Margaret Chicken 1 Oct 1815 in St Mary's Gateshead. Is this any help. Regards Harold -----Original Message----- From: northumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:northumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kevin & Lynne Hyde Sent: 20 April 2010 05:11 To: northumbria@rootsweb.com Subject: [NMB] Chicken, hi Moni, So far I haven't found any Hexham Chicken connections However I wouldn't think that Chicken was a very common names so maybe in the future I could find a connection.. Regards Lynne The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message