I have a fair bit of information about this man already, from the internet, local newspapers and parish records but I need some more info especially about his parents, grand parents etc. I have at least 7 of his children well documented. I know about his marriage to Susanna Mitcalfe too. He seemed to have several jobs - shipowner, banker and property owner. He was declared bankrupt and accused of fraud related to the bankruptcy in his 79th year. He lived in several places too - Dockwray Square, briefly in Camberwell in Surrey, Red Barns Newcastle and his death place Eldon Place, Newcastle. I suspect he was related to the FENWICK's of Preston near Tynemouth but I need more evidence. Gen in NBL England

Gen: Do you know where he was in the 1851 census? That would tell us his birthplace and enable us to look for his baptism. In general, if you have, as you say, a fair bit of knowledge about him already, then why not tell us what it is? After all, the more we have to go on, even if it is irrelevant and "only" background, the better chance we will have of finding him. For instance, where and when did he marry? Was it after Banns or by Licence? If by Licence, have you looked at his Bond and Allegation? Where were his children baptised? Did he leave a Will, proved in Durham? What was in the newspapers about him - was it just a report of his wedding or was it some other news-worthy "story" about him? Have you looked for or found him in a series of Trade Directories? Do you have his death certificate? Do you know where he was buried - and whether there is a gravestone? It would be a great pity if people went to a great deal of trouble to find references to him, only to find that they were all ones you have already! Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: Gen ListLass <[email protected]> To: northumbria <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 12:03 Subject: [NMB] Cuthbert Smith FENWICK (1770-1853) I have a fair bit of information about this man already, from the internet, local newspapers and parish records but I need some more info especially about his parents, grand parents etc. I have at least 7 of his children well documented. I know about his marriage to Susanna Mitcalfe too. He seemed to have several jobs - shipowner, banker and property owner. He was declared bankrupt and accused of fraud related to the bankruptcy in his 79th year. He lived in several places too - Dockwray Square, briefly in Camberwell in Surrey, Red Barns Newcastle and his death place Eldon Place, Newcastle. I suspect he was related to the FENWICK's of Preston near Tynemouth but I need more evidence. Gen in NBL England .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Geoff, In the message regarding Cuthbert Smith Fenwick, you mentioned "Trade Directories".  Is that like classifieds or advertisements in a phone book?  Thanks, Susan

Hi John, thanks for the reply.. the William Walton you found in the workhouse wasn't right. I have them all together at 72Grey St. In 1911. The indexing was strange for the family but I found it eventually.. The form was originally written with initials. M.a.Walton etc.. William Walton was 53in 1911. I hadnt found the marriage in 1916 so that may well be worth investigating.John Sent from my iPad On 26 Mar 2013, at 16:57, "John Gallon" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, I have posted about my great grandmother Mary Ann Hirst before but > thought I'd have another go. She was born on the 19th June 1856 and was the > eldest child of John Hirst and Sarah Ann Slane. She married my great > grandfather Thomas Gornall in 1873 ......... Thomas Gornall died in 1890 > aged 38 and by 1901 Mary Ann had moved back to Newcastle.. She was then > living in Grey Street next door to her sister Sarah Hirst who had married > William Walton in 1878. ..... Sarah died not long after the 1901 census and > in 1907 her husband William Walton married my great grandmother Mary Ann > Gornall. .....What I would like to know is what then happened to my great > grandmother ...I'm guessing that she lived the rest of her life in Newcastle > but I don't know when she died as there are so many Sarah Waltons... She > appears to have still been alive in 1914 when her yougest daughter Sophia > Gornall married John C Lawton as she is mentioned in that couple's marriage > notice.. Any contact with her first or second family would be most welcome.. > Yours John Ayton > > Dear John, > > I do take it you are looking for Mary Ann Walton, as you have "I don't know > when she died as there are so many Sarah Walton's"? > > Anyway if it is Mary Ann Walton, you do know that in 1911 her husband > William is in the Workhouse. And a William Walton aged 60 died in Sept. > Qtr.1916. I did check for a death of Mary Ann Walton & none of them were the > correct age at death. > > Then I found a Mary Ann Walton marrying a James W Kennedy in June Qtr. 1916? > Yes I know William was still alive, so it could be bigamy. But I found a > Mary Ann Kennedy who died in June quarter 1937 aged 82 years? Could this be > your Great Grandmother? > > > John > Walker, Newcastle upon Tyne > [email protected] > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~littleblobby/ > http://www.freewebs.com/littleblobby/ > > .. > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I have posted about my great grandmother Mary Ann Hirst before but thought I'd have another go. She was born on the 19th June 1856 and was the eldest child of John Hirst and Sarah Ann Slane. She married my great grandfather Thomas Gornall in 1873 ......... Thomas Gornall died in 1890 aged 38 and by 1901 Mary Ann had moved back to Newcastle.. She was then living in Grey Street next door to her sister Sarah Hirst who had married William Walton in 1878. ..... Sarah died not long after the 1901 census and in 1907 her husband William Walton married my great grandmother Mary Ann Gornall. .....What I would like to know is what then happened to my great grandmother ...I'm guessing that she lived the rest of her life in Newcastle but I don't know when she died as there are so many Sarah Waltons... She appears to have still been alive in 1914 when her yougest daughter Sophia Gornall married John C Lawton as she is mentioned in that couple's marriage notice.. Any contact with her first or second family would be most welcome.. Yours John Ayton Dear John, I do take it you are looking for Mary Ann Walton, as you have "I don't know when she died as there are so many Sarah Walton's"? Anyway if it is Mary Ann Walton, you do know that in 1911 her husband William is in the Workhouse. And a William Walton aged 60 died in Sept. Qtr.1916. I did check for a death of Mary Ann Walton & none of them were the correct age at death. Then I found a Mary Ann Walton marrying a James W Kennedy in June Qtr. 1916? Yes I know William was still alive, so it could be bigamy. But I found a Mary Ann Kennedy who died in June quarter 1937 aged 82 years? Could this be your Great Grandmother? John Walker, Newcastle upon Tyne [email protected] http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~littleblobby/ http://www.freewebs.com/littleblobby/

Hi, I know that this is a log shot but I thought I'd post in case anyone knows anything further about my 2 of my ancestors who were both born out of wedlock. They are a mother and son and of course this leaves quite a gap in my tree..They were Mary Jane Kilburn who was born on the 14th October 1835 at Fir Tree near Witton le Wear. She was baptised at Witton le Wear but no father was alleged.Her mother was Elizabeth Kilburn daughter of John Kilburn and Hannah Gibbon. Mary Jane Kilburn was living at Fir Tree in 1841 with her grandmother. In 1851 she was living at Greensides Farm near Trimdon with her mother Elizabeth Kilburn who had married John Scurr in 1847. Mary Jane is described as a servant in the census and is not acknowleged as a relative of John Scurr. On the 18th July 1857 Mary Jane Kilburn gave birth to my great grandfather at Greensides Farm. His name was Robert Davison Kilburn. Robert Davison Kilburn's birth does not seem to have been registered but he was baptised at Kelloe 11th Jun 1858 and no father is named.. He and his mother were then living at East Hetton which appears to have been a temporary mining settlement near Kelloe. In 1859 Mary Jane Kilburn gave birth to a second child named Emma at Durham Workhouse and again no father is alleged. By the 1861 census all 3 of them were living in Bishop Auckland Workhouse-I'm guessing that they were moved there as Mary Jane Kilburn was born at Fir Tree and came under BA Union. Mary Jane Kilburn met an Edward Ramsbottom not long after this and they lived together as man and wife until their deaths. Edward Ramsbottom was in Lancashire in 1861 and had married later in that year to a Betty Brierly. He obviously couldn't marry Mary Jane Kilburn so I don't have a marriage certificate to look for any alleged father.. They had 8 children together.Robert Davison Kilburn was married in 1882 but a father is not named on his certificate either.. I have speculated that his father may have been the Robert Davison who was aged 24 in 1851 and was then working ar Kelloe Hall.. This Robert Davison was born at Cassop according to the census but I can't find him for sure in 1841 or 1861.. Any help or suggestions with these folks would be appreciated.Yours John Ayton

Hi, I have posted about my great grandmother Mary Ann Hirst before but thought I'd have another go. She was born on the 19th June 1856 and was the eldest child of John Hirst and Sarah Ann Slane. She married my great grandfather Thomas Gornall in 1873 at St Mary's Catholic Cathedral in Newcastle. Thomas Gornall had recently moved up north from Berriew in Montgomeryshire. They had 7 children-the 4 eldest were born in Pudding Chare Newcastle and the 3 younger were born at Snows Green near Shotley Bridge. Thomas Gornall died in 1890 aged 38 and by 1901 Mary Ann had moved back to Newcastle.. She was then living in Grey Street next door to her sister Sarah Hirst who had married William Walton in 1878. William and Sarah Walton had 9 children-one of whom was named Thomas Gornall Walton in memoery of his uncle. Sarah died not long after the 1901 census and in 1907 her husband William Walton married my great grandmother Mary Ann Gornall. The marriage happened only months after the law chaged allowing such a union. THere weren't any children from the second marriage.. What I would like to know is what then happened to my great grandmother as there is no family knowledge of her. I'm guessing that she lived the rest of her life in Newcastle but I don't know when she died as there are so many Sarah Waltons... She appears to have still been alive in 1914 when her yougest daughter Sophia Gornall married John C Lawton as she is mentioned in that couple's marriage notice.. Any contact with her first or second family would be most welcome.. Yours John Ayton

Hi,I'm having a regular look over all my family and as ever I come to a number of brickwalls which I would love to sort out. I was lucky recently to find a marriage that I'd been looking for for years. However I would like to find the origins of my 5x great grandfather Joseph Ayton. I know an amount about him but there are big gaps. He was born about 1725 if his burial age is correct.. The first evidence I have of him is when he baptised his known eldest child John Ayton 29th Jul 1750 at Wolsingham. Joseph was married to a Mary. They lived at Holebeck Mill as Joseph was a miller. Holebeck Mill no longer exists but stood between Wolsingham and Frosterley on the southern side of the River Wear. Joseph and Mary had 11 known children before Mary died in 1779 at Wolsingham. According to "Records of Wolsingham" by Devey Joseph Ayton purchased pews in Wolsingham church and was a churchwarden and overseer of the poor.. A futher document in the book is a petition that Joseph Ayton sent to the Bishop of Durham wanting to be let off his debts on his mill. This document of 1801 states that Joseph Ayton was then about 75 years old and infirm being incapable of work to support his young family. The document states that he then had his second wife at home and 5 young children under the age of 11 who had been brought up with integrity and industry and with a strict adherence the the Christian faith. Joseph had married Mary Weston in 1786 and had 5 more children making 16 all told.. Joseph Ayton died in 1803 at Wolsingham but his burial entry does not give a parish of origin.Joseph does not appear to have been able to write but his children could.They spelt our name as Ayton although Aton and Hayton were used in the first baptismal entries in the 1750s. Obviously I would like to find where Joseph Ayton came from and would also like to find his first marriage.I haven't found this in Durham or Northumberland to date.There is a baptism in 1721 at Sedgefield for a Joseph Hayton which seems rather early. Any suggestions would be welcome. Yours John Ayton

"Angie Brunner" <[email protected]> wrote: Actually by posting, I thought one of the listers may have >knowledge of the 'Calcutta' David Morrison who hailed from >Newcastle-upon-Tyne, which may help in either confirming or >eliminating my g-grandfather rather than be able to help with a >possible west coast disaster. Hi Angie If you had stated this in the original query, I wouldn't have complained. Brian -- Brian Pears (Joint List Admin - NORTHUMBRIA Mailing List)

My apologies, Brian. Guess I'm still in the learning mode of genealogy quests. Not taken as a complaint, rather a knowledgeable comment. Thanks to you, I have learned one more 'how to'! Cheers, Angie

I had the same problem at Penkridge in Staffordshire and eventually was luckily enough to find the local undertaker who had been in the area for well over 150 years had an index to the graves. In Oldham and North Shields it was the cemetery itself that had a plan with names alongside. I even found my older brother in North Shileds and my Gt Grandparents In Oldham. Wonderful JANITA ________________________________ From: Geoff Nicholson <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Saturday, 23 March 2013, 13:08 Subject: Re: [NMB] Church Graveyard Records - Ashington Pat:     I could well be wrong, but as far as my experience goes, I have never heard of there being any such obligation on clergy, who conduct burials in their own churchyards.  The burial register is indeed usually all one gets.  Indeed, I am in a similar position myself - I know my great grandfather, Isaac Nicholson, was buried in Greenside churchyard, near Ryton, in 1906.  I have seen the burial register (before it was even deposited, never mind microfilmed) and was delighted to note that the plot number was given in the margin for all burials around that time.  However, when I asked for a map/key to discover which plot number was where, I was told that it had been lost for many years !  Yes, I know that all I need to do is to compare the burial plot numbers with those for burials on the MIs (which have been recorded), and that should allow me to deduce how the numbers "run".  That is definitely on my list of things to do - "one day" !                                   Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: Pat Pierpoint <[email protected]> To: [email protected] com <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:47 Subject: [NMB] Church Graveyard Records - Ashington Can anyone please advise me about the obligation of churches to keep records of where individuals are buried in their cemeteries?  I am not enquiring about civil cemeteries, only church cemeteries. I am presently doing some research for an elderly lady who would like to visit her grandmother's grave and pay her respects but is becoming distressed because we cannot find the grave.  We know for sure that her grandmother, Margaret Bowe, is buried in the graveyard at Holy Sepulchre, Ashington - the death was 29 Jan 1908 and the burial 01 Feb 1908.  However, there is no mention of a plot number on the burial records and sadly there does not appear to be a gravestone (the M.I.s have been recorded and I have consulted these to no avail).  I have asked at the Church Office and they do not have a plot book, and there is no sign of one at Northumberland Archives at Woodhorn.  I have tried various avenues to guess where the burial may have been.  The two people who did the M.I.s have kindly given me information on those who died and were buried at Holy Sepulchre the week before and the week after, in case the burials were close together, however only two of them have a gravestone and they appear to be buried in different areas of the graveyard. One of them is, however, buried in the section that seems to cover the period 1900-1920.  Would the church have been obliged to keep a record of who was being buried where?  At the moment I don't even know if such a record exists - and before I rattle any more cages I need to get my facts straight! Many thanks Cheers Pat ======================== Mrs Pat Pierpoint Publicity Officer - NDFHS Email: [email protected] or [email protected] ========================   _____  I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter <http://www.spamfighter.com/len> . SPAMfighter has removed 12984 of my spam emails to date. Do you have a slow PC? <http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen> Try a free scan! .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Brian, for your quick response and the website, which I will explore. Actually by posting, I thought one of the listers may have knowledge of the 'Calcutta' David Morrison who hailed from Newcastle-upon-Tyne, which may help in either confirming or eliminating my g-grandfather rather than be able to help with a possible west coast disaster. I have looked into the west coast but will keep on digging as there must surely be a record somewhere - it's just finding it! I have been in touch with tug sites but no luck as yet. Hopefully the website you have kindly given will be fruitful, if only with more search suggestions. Many thanks. Angie

"Angie Brunner" <[email protected]> wrote: > I have even looked for a tug going down off the west coast of >England or Wales but no luck as yet. Any suggestions? Angie I'm afraid this too is way off topic for this list. Our remit is with places, people and events in the counties of Northumberland and Co Durham, not with events at sea off the west coast of Great Britain. Your best bet would probably be the MARINERS list. http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Occupations/MARINERS.html Brian -- Brian Pears (Joint List Admin - NORTHUMBRIA Mailing List)

Hello Pat I could not but help take an interest in your posting having not only married a wonderful Ashington lass at Holy Sepulchre but having also been involved with one of the events last year when the Church celebrated its 125th birthday. I appreciate your frustration and indeed more so the distress of the lady wanting to visit her grandmother's grave. So I have just phoned my contact at Holy Sepulchre, a lady with whom you have possibly spoken before. I have read your posting to her and she has located several facts re Margaret Bowe, including her address, together with info re other burials on the same DAY and also the following day. However, although it seems that, most regretably, it will be impossible to identify beyond all doubt, the exact spot of her grave, my friend believes that there is sufficient circumstantial evidence to help make a reasoned guess. Other points she made were that there is no other person named Bowe in her records; many people could not afford a headstone and instead, bought a glass dome with flowers inside. When these domes were damaged, they were summarily removed leaving the grave with no identity. It would also appear that prior to about 1920, there was no logical plan as to where graves were situated. You will appreciate that I am not going to disclose any names or contact info on this list posting but I have given your e-mail to my friend who will make contact with you directly. I will copy this reply to my friend. I sincerely that this will give your friend at least something more tangible and positive. Kind regards Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Pierpoint" <[email protected]> To: "[email protected] com" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 11:45 AM Subject: [NMB] Church Graveyard Records - Ashington >

I just want to thank Chris and Fee and all who have given advice about this, I am an old lady now and would like to find my fathers life as he died when I was a small child but I think it is unlikely I will get any further as I have been trying for thirty years now. Cheers Fran

Can anyone please advise me about the obligation of churches to keep records of where individuals are buried in their cemeteries? I am not enquiring about civil cemeteries, only church cemeteries. I am presently doing some research for an elderly lady who would like to visit her grandmother's grave and pay her respects but is becoming distressed because we cannot find the grave. We know for sure that her grandmother, Margaret Bowe, is buried in the graveyard at Holy Sepulchre, Ashington - the death was 29 Jan 1908 and the burial 01 Feb 1908. However, there is no mention of a plot number on the burial records and sadly there does not appear to be a gravestone (the M.I.s have been recorded and I have consulted these to no avail). I have asked at the Church Office and they do not have a plot book, and there is no sign of one at Northumberland Archives at Woodhorn. I have tried various avenues to guess where the burial may have been. The two people who did the M.I.s have kindly given me information on those who died and were buried at Holy Sepulchre the week before and the week after, in case the burials were close together, however only two of them have a gravestone and they appear to be buried in different areas of the graveyard. One of them is, however, buried in the section that seems to cover the period 1900-1920. Would the church have been obliged to keep a record of who was being buried where? At the moment I don't even know if such a record exists - and before I rattle any more cages I need to get my facts straight! Many thanks Cheers Pat ======================== Mrs Pat Pierpoint Publicity Officer - NDFHS Email: [email protected] or [email protected] ======================== _____ I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter <http://www.spamfighter.com/len> . SPAMfighter has removed 12984 of my spam emails to date. Do you have a slow PC? <http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen> Try a free scan!

"Frances Knight" <[email protected]> wrote: >Sorry folks for the confusion. I am seeking a birth certificate for >Beatrice Mary Golven, her marriage details say she was born in Jersey >but they have no trace of her. She is/was my only link to possible >relatives of my father. Born about 1890 and married Edward Alexander >Deeley in 1917 in Jersey. I don't know when they came to the UK but my >father seems to have come with them. The Aunt spoke with an accent >which I presumed was French. Sorry Fran, but I'm really going to have to insist that we stay on topic. There is no apparent connection here with the NORTHUMBRIA list area so this is clearly way off topic. If you've ruled out Jersey and now wish to "try everywhere else", then you need a list which covers the whole country rather than specific regional lists. GENBRIT would fit the bill: http://tinyurl.com/d9yu27 Brian -- Brian Pears (Joint List Admin - NORTHUMBRIA Mailing List)

Fran, I think you've answered your own question in other Rootsweb posts you've made. If she is saying she was born in St Ouen, had an accent that may be French, had a French sounding name, and married in Jersey, that's where you'd need to concentrate your search - as you seem to have been doing. St Ouen is the largest parish by area in Jersey, at the north west corner of the island. As Brian has said, there's no obvious linkage in Northumbria, but if you can suggest more I'm sure we'll be happy to dig deeper. Chris -----Original Message----- From: Frances Knight Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 10:20 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [NMB] Birth Certificate Sorry folks for the confusion. I am seeking a birth certificate for Beatrice Mary Golven, her marriage details say she was born in Jersey but they have no trace of her. She is/was my only link to possible relatives of my father. Born about 1890 and married Edward Alexander Deeley in 1917 in Jersey. I don't know when they came to the UK but my father seems to have come with them. The Aunt spoke with an accent which I presumed was French. Fran .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Brian I can't find this lady in Jersey and I have had the Registrars help so trying everywhere else. Fran ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Pears" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 11:43 PM Subject: Re: [NMB] Birth Certificate > knight frances <[email protected]> wrote: >>My father was born in Jersey to a Marie Guegan, no father mentioned, >>all I have is his birth and baptism certificate.I have no more till he >>met and married my mum in Newcastle in 1932 > > Fran > > If, as seems very likely, Marie was born in Jersey, then you > need to post this to a more appropriate list. We cover only > the counties of Northumberland and Co Durham on NORTHUMBRIA. > > Try > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/UK/CHANNEL-ISLANDS.html > > Brian > -- > Brian Pears (Joint List Admin - NORTHUMBRIA Mailing List) > .. > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at > http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Fiona father was born Nov 3rd 1905 in St Helier Jersey to Marie Guegan, no father shown.The aunt is my link because other than her names all her details are linked to a family called Guegan who have been in Jersey since 1871 It is a long involved story so I can't go properly into it. Fran ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fiona J Mitford" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 10:47 PM Subject: Re: [NMB] Birth Certificate > Firstly, Please confirm your father's name? DoB, Place of Birth? > > There was a Marie GUEGAN in Jersey that is possibly the right age and may > be > his mother, Marie GUEGAN [24], born abt 1887, in France, and living in > Hilgrove Yard St Helier, Jersey, on the 1911c. > > Regards, > > Fee > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: knight frances > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 9:59 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NMB] Birth Certificate > > Hello Folks > John has suggested I put my problem on the site so I will try to keep it > short. > My father was born in Jersey to a Marie Guegan, no father mentioned, all I > have is his birth and baptism certificate.I have no more till he met and > married my mum in Newcastle in 1932 > He was living and working with a couple who had a tailors shop in Westgate > Road. He called this couple Aunt and Uncle. According to their marriage > cert. The lady Beatrice Mary Golven was born in Jersey. The couple married > in Jersey. The Uncle had been a soldier in the South Stafforshire > Regiment, > invalided out in 1918, they married in 1917. He was born and raised in > Stratford, his name was Edward Alexander Deeley. > I have searched in Jersey and the UK for a birth certificate for her, from > her death cert. with her age on she was born around 1890. > Sorry couldn't summarize any better. > Fran > .. > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at > http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > .. > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at > http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message