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    1. Re: [NMB] 1859 marriaged cert - What is full age? Also inquest access query
    2. Nivard Ovington
    3. Hi Yvonne Full age means they were taken to be 21 or over I am sure someone else will tell you more but far from all coroners papers survive, I would check local papers to see if there is a mention I would suggest posting the details and see if anyone can help you Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 17/04/2013 13:37, Yvonne wrote: > Hello > > I hope someone can shed a bit of light on my queries. > > I have just received a copy of a marriage certificate of my gggrandparents. I was hoping it would have given their ages but it only states that they were "of full age". What age did they have to be for a marriage to take place in 1859 Newcastle? > > Also, on another certificate it states that an inquest had been held on 20th August 1880 in Newcastle after the person drowned in the Tyne. Is there anyway to gain access to Coroner's reports from that time? > > Any information would be gratefully received. > > Thank you in advance. > Yvonne

    04/17/2013 07:44:45
    1. [NMB] 1859 marriaged cert - What is full age? Also inquest access query
    2. Yvonne
    3. Hello   I hope someone can shed a bit of light on my queries.   I have just received a copy of a marriage certificate of my gggrandparents.  I was hoping it would have given their ages but it only states that they were "of full age".  What age did they have to be for a marriage to take place in 1859 Newcastle?   Also, on another certificate it states that an inquest had been held on 20th August 1880 in Newcastle after the person drowned in the Tyne.  Is there anyway to gain access to Coroner's reports from that time?   Any information would be gratefully received.   Thank you in advance. Yvonne

    04/17/2013 07:37:29
    1. Re: [NMB] 1859 marriaged cert - What is full age? Also inquest access query
    2. Susan C
    3. Hello all, In Northumbria and elsewhere I have seen marriage records recording the younger age as "full age" when they were in fact 13, 14 or 15 yrs. old.  Perhaps in the 16th and 17th century parents made arrangements for their children to marry at that age because of war, disease, to keep the family name or it was because there was no one else to leave (in a will) an estate to keep in the family.  In some cases the groom or bride died very young, before they had the chance to have children.  Would love more info on this subject, Susan  ________________________________ From: Maggie Richie <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [NMB] 1859 marriaged cert - What is full age? Also inquest access query Hi Yvonne Don't believe everything on the marriage with regard to 'full age'.  I have one in my family where it says 'full age' when the bride was 14years old and her father and brother were the witnesses! When she remarries she states the correct age but she is a spinster when in fact she is a widow with a young son! Marion -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Yvonne Sent: 17 April 2013 13:37 To: [email protected] Subject: [NMB] 1859 marriaged cert - What is full age? Also inquest access query Hello I hope someone can shed a bit of light on my queries. I have just received a copy of a marriage certificate of my gggrandparents. I was hoping it would have given their ages but it only states that they were "of full age".  What age did they have to be for a marriage to take place in 1859 Newcastle? Also, on another certificate it states that an inquest had been held on 20th August 1880 in Newcastle after the person drowned in the Tyne.  Is there anyway to gain access to Coroner's reports from that time? Any information would be gratefully received. Thank you in advance. Yvonne .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at <http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/> http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/17/2013 07:15:42
    1. [NMB] Wallsend
    2. Paul Hood
    3. I am interested to know what sort of houses were on Long Row Wallsend in 1870 - 1900, the social history of that particular area, can anybody help. Paul

    04/17/2013 04:15:04
    1. Re: [NMB] Sunderland
    2. Geoff Nicholson
    3. Susan: Just a couple of points. The regional family history society is the Northumberland and Durham Family History Society, so its usual abbreviation is the NDFHS. Don't forget that "N". It is important, even if your main interest lies in Co Durham! I would also pick you up when you say that records are sketchy for the 1650s. On the whole, that is true. Parish registers were not well kept during the "Commonwealth" period, and marriage registers, in aprticular, were affected by Parliament's Puritan ideas. Some registers of that period seem to have been "lost" (AKA destroyed) at the Restoration, so there are lots of parishes whose registers begin only in 1660. However, don't forget the Hearth Tax records of the 1660s, for which there is now an on-line index, and the Northumberland ones have been printed in the various volumes of the New History of Northumberland. Also the Protestation Returns of 1641 have been printed by the Surtees Soxciety, in a volume available for free download via the "Project Gutenberg" and associated pages. The Protestations amount to a census (ie a list of names) of all able-bodied males between the ages of 16 and 60 in each parish. The Surtees Society have also published, in two volumes, the 1647 Parliamentary Survey of the Bishop of Durham's estates in Co Durham, which lists all the copyholders, together with a lot of other information about them and about each place. Parliament had confiscated those estates and wanted to know what precisely thair ill-gotten gains amounted to. They have also available on the same site as the Protestations, but are still in copyright and have been placed there by Google Books, so there is a charge for downloading them. In addition there were still Wills being proved at Durham. True, nothing like as many during the "Commonweallth" as had been usual, but many families seem to have held back on doing so, only to "catch up" after the Restoration in 1660, so my hint would be to be sure to look at the first few years of the 1660s when seeking the Will of someone who died in the 1650s. The LDS say they are "going to" put facsimiles or even transcripts of all the Wills proved at Durham on line, but so far have failed to do so. However, what we do now have, is an informative list of all those which exist, so that is well worth looking for. Another useful source, and another Surtees Society publication available from Project Gutenberg is the Records of the Committee for Compounding with Delinquent Royalists. That covers mainly Co Durham but there are Northumberland entries in it as well. It is not necessary for your ancestor to have been a "Delinquent Royalist" - ie one who had had lands confiscated because of their loyalty to their King: the value of such lands depended to some extent on the rents payable by their tenants, so the book includes for many estates long lists of tenants and what they paid, if the land is not dismissed by just giving its "YVBW" ("Yearly Value Before the War"), which I find has a surprisingly modern ring to it, as "Before the War" in Britain still means pre-1939. Also, don't forget the County Histories, ie for Co Durham those of Surtees an earlier one by Hutchinson and a later one by Forsyth, pluis the recently-reinvigorated Victoria County History project, which can give a lot of background to what went on. Good hunting, Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: Susan C <[email protected]> To: northumbria <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 22:50 Subject: Re: [NMB] Sunderland Hi Geoff, Thank you for that, I do appreciate it. You are quite right, "Information Highway" (as we called it in the 1980's) was a vision to students, historians, professionals or just to some interested people looking for information on the internet. In the 1970's everything was done the hard way, with typewriters, driving to another city or state, or flying to another continent to look for an ancestor was a challenge indeed. A brother to my grandfather commissioned a genealogist to England and Scotland to research our family in 1862. Can you imagine the length of time it took for the travels and the mail in those days? My family letters show ancestors in England back to the year 1655, records then are sketchy, we are lucky to find any scrap of information about anyone. Anything before that is harder to track, but, isn't that what research is all about? I will look into the DFHS, and the Sunderland Antiquarian Society, I have not heard of the SAS, but it sounds like an interesting group worth investigating. Regards, Susan USA ________________________________ From: Geoff Nicholson <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 4:42 AM Subject: Re: [NMB] Sunderland Susan: Brian is quite right. However, as in other regions, there is a certain amount of overlap of "Lists". I am surprised, for instance, that Brian didn't mention that Northumbria covers the Sunderland district, so I would expect you to be quite welcome to post your Sunderland queries here. The Northumberland and Durham Family History Society, which operates its own (non-Rootsweb) List, as well as an on-line Forum, also covers Sunderland and, indeed, until not too long ago it did have a Sunderland Branch. There is also Sunderland Antiquarian Society, now with its own permanent premises in Douro Terrace, Sunderland, which has a web-site with a "members-only" section, which includes some people very knowledgeable indeed about the City of Sunderland. As for tracking down the 18th century and earlier records, once again, Brian's comments are quite correct, but what he doesn't mention, presumably because you asked about on-line ones, is that our local County Record Offices are full of them. Both Durham County Record Office and Tyne and Wear Archives have on-line catalogues and both operate in-house research services and in addition will normally, subject to the usual contraints with delicate materials etc, be willing to send you a photocopy for a moderate fee. As far as I'm concerned, and in general terms with many exceptions, research back to 1837 can tend to be a matter of "looking up" the GRO records and census material, all of which can be very straightforward these days with what is on-line. It is with pre-1837 material that the "real research" begins, and that is what makes it all the more fascinating. Progress may not usually be as quick as it can be for the later period, but that is one of the reasons why family history research can last a lifetime! Don't be put off, then, by the lack of ease of access. It isn't long ago that there was nothing "on-line", because there was no internet anyway. We still managed to get things done! Subscribers may care to note that pre-1837 research in South Tyneside is precisely the topic of a meeting of the S Tyneside branch of the NDFHS (of which I am Branch Chairman and on this occasion will also be the speaker) which is being held in South Shields this coming Wednesday evening. I can send more details off-list to anyone who would like to contact me in that way about it. Geoff Nicholson Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: Brian Pears <[email protected]> To: northumbria <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 3:21 Subject: Re: [NMB] Sunderland Susan C <[email protected]> wrote: >Are the records (for Sunderland) you mention available online? Susan The list I gave wasn't for Sunderland, it is a general list for any location, though not all classes of record survive in every area. Hardly any is available online. Brian -- Brian Pears (Joint List Admin - NORTHUMBRIA Mailing List) .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/14/2013 11:29:31
    1. [NMB] Sunderland
    2. knight frances
    3. Hi There just to say thanks to everyone who replied to this request, enough to keep me busy for a little while. Fran

    04/14/2013 04:55:28
    1. Re: [NMB] Sunderland
    2. Susan C
    3. Hi Geoff, Thank you for that, I do appreciate it.  You are quite right, "Information Highway" (as we called it in the 1980's) was a vision to students, historians, professionals or just to some interested people looking for information on the internet.  In the 1970's everything was done the hard way, with typewriters, driving to another city or state, or flying to another continent to look for an ancestor was a challenge indeed.  A brother to my grandfather commissioned a genealogist to England and Scotland to research our family in 1862.  Can you imagine the length of time it took for the travels and the mail in those days? My family letters show ancestors in England back to the year 1655, records then are sketchy, we are lucky to find any scrap of information about anyone.  Anything before that is harder to track, but, isn't that what research is all about? I will look into the DFHS, and the Sunderland Antiquarian Society, I have not heard of the SAS, but it sounds like an interesting group worth investigating. Regards, Susan USA ________________________________ From: Geoff Nicholson <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 4:42 AM Subject: Re: [NMB] Sunderland Susan:     Brian is quite right.  However, as in other regions, there is a certain amount of overlap of "Lists".  I am surprised, for instance, that Brian didn't mention that Northumbria covers the Sunderland district, so I would expect you to be quite welcome to post your Sunderland queries here.  The Northumberland and Durham Family History Society, which operates its own (non-Rootsweb) List, as well as an on-line Forum, also covers Sunderland and, indeed, until not too long ago it did have a Sunderland Branch.  There is also Sunderland Antiquarian Society, now with its own permanent premises in Douro Terrace, Sunderland, which has a web-site with a "members-only" section, which includes some people very knowledgeable indeed about the City of Sunderland.     As for tracking down the 18th century and earlier records, once again, Brian's comments are quite correct, but what he doesn't mention, presumably because you asked about on-line ones, is that our local County Record Offices are full of them.  Both Durham County Record Office and Tyne and Wear Archives have on-line catalogues and both operate in-house research services and in addition will normally, subject to the usual contraints with delicate materials etc, be willing to send you a photocopy for a moderate fee.     As far as I'm concerned, and in general terms with many exceptions, research back to 1837 can tend to be a matter of "looking up" the GRO records and census material, all of which can be very straightforward these days with what is on-line.  It is with pre-1837 material that the "real research" begins, and that is what makes it all the more fascinating.  Progress may not usually be as quick as it can be for the later period, but that is one of the reasons why family history research can last a lifetime!     Don't be put off, then, by the lack of ease of access.  It isn't long ago that there was nothing "on-line", because there was no internet anyway.  We still managed to get things done!     Subscribers may care to note that pre-1837 research in South Tyneside is precisely the topic of a meeting of the S Tyneside branch of the NDFHS (of which I am Branch Chairman and on this occasion will also be the speaker) which is being held in South Shields this coming Wednesday evening.  I can send more details off-list to anyone who would like to contact me in that way about it.                                               Geoff Nicholson                               Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: Brian Pears <[email protected]> To: northumbria <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 3:21 Subject: Re: [NMB] Sunderland Susan C <[email protected]> wrote: >Are the records (for Sunderland) you mention available online? Susan The list I gave wasn't for Sunderland, it is a general list for any location, though not all classes of record survive in every area. Hardly any is available online. Brian -- Brian Pears (Joint List Admin - NORTHUMBRIA Mailing List) .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/14/2013 08:43:27
    1. Re: [NMB] Sunderland
    2. Geoff Nicholson
    3. Susan: Brian is quite right. However, as in other regions, there is a certain amount of overlap of "Lists". I am surprised, for instance, that Brian didn't mention that Northumbria covers the Sunderland district, so I would expect you to be quite welcome to post your Sunderland queries here. The Northumberland and Durham Family History Society, which operates its own (non-Rootsweb) List, as well as an on-line Forum, also covers Sunderland and, indeed, until not too long ago it did have a Sunderland Branch. There is also Sunderland Antiquarian Society, now with its own permanent premises in Douro Terrace, Sunderland, which has a web-site with a "members-only" section, which includes some people very knowledgeable indeed about the City of Sunderland. As for tracking down the 18th century and earlier records, once again, Brian's comments are quite correct, but what he doesn't mention, presumably because you asked about on-line ones, is that our local County Record Offices are full of them. Both Durham County Record Office and Tyne and Wear Archives have on-line catalogues and both operate in-house research services and in addition will normally, subject to the usual contraints with delicate materials etc, be willing to send you a photocopy for a moderate fee. As far as I'm concerned, and in general terms with many exceptions, research back to 1837 can tend to be a matter of "looking up" the GRO records and census material, all of which can be very straightforward these days with what is on-line. It is with pre-1837 material that the "real research" begins, and that is what makes it all the more fascinating. Progress may not usually be as quick as it can be for the later period, but that is one of the reasons why family history research can last a lifetime! Don't be put off, then, by the lack of ease of access. It isn't long ago that there was nothing "on-line", because there was no internet anyway. We still managed to get things done! Subscribers may care to note that pre-1837 research in South Tyneside is precisely the topic of a meeting of the S Tyneside branch of the NDFHS (of which I am Branch Chairman and on this occasion will also be the speaker) which is being held in South Shields this coming Wednesday evening. I can send more details off-list to anyone who would like to contact me in that way about it. Geoff Nicholson Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: Brian Pears <[email protected]> To: northumbria <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 3:21 Subject: Re: [NMB] Sunderland Susan C <[email protected]> wrote: >Are the records (for Sunderland) you mention available online? Susan The list I gave wasn't for Sunderland, it is a general list for any location, though not all classes of record survive in every area. Hardly any is available online. Brian -- Brian Pears (Joint List Admin - NORTHUMBRIA Mailing List) .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/14/2013 12:42:59
    1. Re: [NMB] Sunderland
    2. Brian Pears
    3. Susan C <[email protected]> wrote: >Are the records (for Sunderland) you mention available online? Susan The list I gave wasn't for Sunderland, it is a general list for any location, though not all classes of record survive in every area. Hardly any is available online. Brian -- Brian Pears (Joint List Admin - NORTHUMBRIA Mailing List)

    04/13/2013 09:19:53
    1. Re: [NMB] Sunderland
    2. Brian Pears
    3. knight frances <[email protected]> wrote: >what is the name of the forum for people born in Sunderland? and is it >only parish records of use in the early 1700's to find family? http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND.html Parish records are the most common and probably the easiest to access, but there are also manorial records, military records, tax records, probate records, legal records, business records, town records, trade records - and probablys others I've missed. Brian -- Brian Pears (Joint List Admin - NORTHUMBRIA Mailing List)

    04/13/2013 03:23:41
    1. [NMB] Sunderland
    2. knight frances
    3. Hi Folks what is the name of the forum for people born in Sunderland? and is it only parish records of use in the early 1700's to find family? Thanks Fran

    04/13/2013 01:30:42
    1. Re: [NMB] Sunderland
    2. Susan C
    3. Hi Brian, Are the records (for Sunderland) you mention available online? Thanks, Susan ________________________________ From: Brian Pears <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [NMB] Sunderland knight frances <[email protected]> wrote: >what is the name of the forum for people born in Sunderland? and is it >only parish records of use in the early 1700's to find family? http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND.html Parish records are the most common and probably the easiest to access, but there are also manorial records, military records, tax records, probate records, legal records, business records, town records, trade records - and probablys others I've missed. Brian -- Brian Pears (Joint List Admin - NORTHUMBRIA Mailing List) .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/13/2013 09:19:37
    1. Re: [NMB] NORTHUMBRIA Digest, Vol 8, Issue 95
    2. Y
    3. What a lovely lot of pictures. Do you suppose Bruno and the Peke are related ??. Loved the owner's joke. Somehwre, dear knows where, I read that not many of the larger breeds have a long life span. Wonder why. Looking forwar to roast pork etc: at Argyle this pm. Does it seem really cold roday. I can't get warm. Suspect the heating has been set at a low temp:.

    04/07/2013 08:46:38
    1. Re: [NMB] FW: HELP PLEASE WITH A WILL/TESTAMENT
    2. Geoff Nicholson
    3. Edith: I have read several Wills from this period, many of them from my time as a Professional Genealogist (before I retired). I have found they vary from"quite straightforward" to "nearly impossible", depending ont he handwriting, the condition of the paper/parchment, etc, etc. I'd be happy to have a go at yours. It will be in English, though that might not be obvious from a first glance, as it will be in secretary hand, with quite different letter shapes to what we are used to, and with possibly unfamiliar turns of phrase and abbreviations. Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: Edith Talbot <[email protected]> To: NORTHUMBRIA <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 18:45 Subject: [NMB] FW: HELP PLEASE WITH A WILL/TESTAMENT Hi all, Please could anyone help with interpretation of a will/testament for 1578for DAVID TALBOTI don't know if this is in latin or secretarial hand, although thewriting appears clear enough, would appreciate it if someone would have a gofor me, I could scan the document and send it off listThanks edith ..Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you!The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/-------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/06/2013 11:07:34
    1. Re: [NMB] FW: HELP PLEASE WITH A WILL/TESTAMENT
    2. Brian Pears
    3. "Edith Talbot" <[email protected]> wrote: >Please could anyone help with interpretation of a will/testament for >1578 for DAVID TALBOT > >I don't know if this is in latin or secretarial hand, although the >writing appears clear enough, would appreciate it if someone would >have a go for me, I could scan the document and send it off list Edith If this relates to the list area you could put the scan online somewhere so that others can attempt to help you. Brian -- Brian Pears (Joint List Admin - NORTHUMBRIA Mailing List)

    04/06/2013 01:45:41
    1. Re: [NMB] FW: HELP PLEASE WITH A WILL/TESTAMENT
    2. Acorn Cottage
    3. Happy to help Edith. I've had lots of practice. Ruth > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Edith Talbot > Sent: 06 April 2013 18:42 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NMB] FW: HELP PLEASE WITH A WILL/TESTAMENT > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > Please could anyone help with interpretation of a > will/testament for 1578 for DAVID TALBOT > > I don't know if this is in latin or secretarial hand, although the > writing appears clear enough, would appreciate it if someone > would have a go for me, I could scan the document and send it off list > > Thanks > edith > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .. > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before > you post any reply...... Thank you! > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at > http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    04/06/2013 12:47:59
    1. [NMB] FW: HELP PLEASE WITH A WILL/TESTAMENT
    2. Edith Talbot
    3. Hi all, Please could anyone help with interpretation of a will/testament for 1578 for DAVID TALBOT I don't know if this is in latin or secretarial hand, although the writing appears clear enough, would appreciate it if someone would have a go for me, I could scan the document and send it off list Thanks edith

    04/06/2013 12:41:37
    1. Re: [NMB] Apprenticeships
    2. Frances Knight
    3. Thanks Geoff I will try that. Fran ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Nicholson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [NMB] Apprenticeships > > Fran: > > Probably not, though you should chaeck withi Tyne and Wear Archives > and tell them the name of the tailor or of the tailoring firm. There is > just a chance that they might have the firm's records, in which case the > Apprenticeship Indenture should be there. They have a card-index, compiled > by the indefatiguable Fred Furness several years ago, to all such > Indentures or other apprenticeship records they hold. As an interesting > sideline from this, for modern indentures (say, 20th century), there > should be, along with the Indenture, a copy of the birth certificate, as > the age of the apprentice had to be proved before he could be taken on. > You might then obtain a photocopy of the certificate for much less than > the official fee! > > Geoff Nicholson > > > -----Original Message----- > From: knight frances <[email protected]> > To: NORTHUMBRIA <[email protected]> > Sent: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 16:57 > Subject: [NMB] Apprenticeships > > > Hi Folks > my father was apprenticed to a tailor in Newcastle around the 1930's is > there any documentation I could find somewhere about this? > Fran > .. > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at > http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > .. > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at > http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/01/2013 01:25:58
    1. [NMB] Apprenticeships
    2. knight frances
    3. Hi Folks my father was apprenticed to a tailor in Newcastle around the 1930's is there any documentation I could find somewhere about this? Fran

    04/01/2013 10:49:34
    1. Re: [NMB] Apprenticeships
    2. Geoff Nicholson
    3. Fran: Probably not, though you should chaeck withi Tyne and Wear Archives and tell them the name of the tailor or of the tailoring firm. There is just a chance that they might have the firm's records, in which case the Apprenticeship Indenture should be there. They have a card-index, compiled by the indefatiguable Fred Furness several years ago, to all such Indentures or other apprenticeship records they hold. As an interesting sideline from this, for modern indentures (say, 20th century), there should be, along with the Indenture, a copy of the birth certificate, as the age of the apprentice had to be proved before he could be taken on. You might then obtain a photocopy of the certificate for much less than the official fee! Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: knight frances <[email protected]> To: NORTHUMBRIA <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 16:57 Subject: [NMB] Apprenticeships Hi Folks my father was apprenticed to a tailor in Newcastle around the 1930's is there any documentation I could find somewhere about this? Fran .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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