I am not from Northumberland and I wondered the distance between places as I have found possible connections with my Thornton family in :- Donking Ridge, Dike Head, Gallows Hill, Rothley, Long Witton, Hartburn, Green Leighton, Rothley Shield, Elph Hills, Shaftoe Grange and Harwood, mainly farmers but a few labourers. Paul

John: What do you mean by "entry number 283"? Is it schedule 283 in that enumeration district? Or is it on folio 283 of that census piece? Have you read the enumeration district description, given at the front of every enumeration district and mentioning every place covered? I have looked at the OS 1st edition 6" map and can find no mention thereon of anywhere named The Hold in or near to Chirton. The nearest I can find is "Hay Hole", that being a stretch of riverside about a mile south of Chirton village - where there were many staithes, serving Percy Main Colliery and the waggonways leading from further north. The word "Hole" is frequently used on the Tyne to mean an anchorage, especially one near to the shore, eg Dent's Hole, Peggy's Hole (where the Press Gang's HQ ship, the "Peggy" usually lay) and others. Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: John Gosling <[email protected]> To: NORTHUMBRIA <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 14:45 Subject: [NMB] The Hold, Chirton Hi, I've got an ancestor living in Chirton on the 1851 census. I'm trying to find something on the address written in the census, which looks like "The Hold". My ancestor is William Pearson, entry number 283 on the census. There's 3 or 4 pages with the same address. Could anyone explain what "The Hold" is or was, assuming I am reading it correctly, could refer to? Regards John .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Paul: IF Henry was of the Netherwitton family, then according to Hodgson's pedigree, there is really only one candidate. That was Henry Thornton, 4th son of Nicholas Thornton, who died (Nicholas) in 1700. Hodgson says Nicholas married Ann, daughter of John Swinburn of Capheaton, but he gives the date of the marriage settlement as being 1687. However, Hodgson also lists five of their sons who were alive on 25 December 1688! Possibly they were married for some years before the settlement was finally agreed (unlikely) or, more likely I would have thought, Ann Swinburn was Nicholas' second wife (although Hodgson doesn't mention a first one). No other details are given of Henry, but he would fit nicely with what you say. I should, perhaps, have stated the obvious, which it would not be necessary to mention to anyone familiar with the history of Northumberland. That is, that most Northumbrian landowners remained Roman Catholic even after the Reformation. I think they saw the Church of England as just a temporary "London fashion" and nothing to do with them. As a result they were all heavily involved in the various rebellions, either openly to replace the Protestant monarch/government with a Catholic one or more indirectly to replace the Hanoverians with the Stewarts (the Jacobite rebellions). The Thorntons of Netherwitton had been Royalist (of course) during the civil war of the 1640s and for that they had suffered financially. It seems one of their ways of off-setting their losses was to neglect the upkeep of their parish church, for which, as the major (or only) ratepayers of the parish, they were liable, Catholic or not. As fourth son, Henry would have received little or nothing of what remained of the family fortune, so he would have had to fend for himself somehow. Also I can quite understand him, if he did not have a particularly strong religious commitment, allowing his Catholicism to lapse and conforming to the Established Church. Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: Paul Hood <[email protected]> To: northumbria <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 16:33 Subject: Re: [NMB] Thornton Family My direct ancestor was Edmund Thornton b1810 Meldon, in 1851 he was a miller employing 2 men at Bedlington. In 1857 debts caught up with him and assets were sold, in 1861 he was a cartman. His father was John Thornton b1779 at Rivergreen Mill, his mother was Mary Yellowley. Now as far as I can see John's father was Henry Thornton baptised at Hartburn in 1738 and his father was Robert b1703 at Netherwitton and died in 1773 at Donking Ridge which I am told is a farm about 4 miles NW of Hartburn. There is a Henry Thornton b1680 at or around Hartburn who married a Jane Read in 1700, possibly Roberts father. With so many Thornton's in the area it is difficult to pin point the exact one I need. Paul .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Paul: Further to my earlier reply, about Roger Thornton of Netherwitton, the pedigree I referred to is in Hodgson's History of Northumberland, Pt 2, Vol 1, pp316-319. Roger Thornton died 3 January 1429/30, The pedogree takes the family down to the extinction of the main, landowning, branch in the late 18th century. Once more I, and I am sure others, would dearly love to know more details (names, dates, places etc) of your Thorntons, if only to see whether they appear to be connected with those Thorntons. There were/are places in Netherwitton (a Parochial Chapelry of the Parish of Hartburn) named East Thornton and West Thornton. Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: Paul Hood <[email protected]> To: NORTHUMBRIA <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 12:48 Subject: [NMB] Thornton Family I am not from Northumberland and I wondered the distance between places as I have found possible connections with my Thornton family in :- Donking Ridge, Dike Head, Gallows Hill, Rothley, Long Witton, Hartburn, Green Leighton, Rothley Shield, Elph Hills, Shaftoe Grange and Harwood, mainly farmers but a few labourers. Paul .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Paul: Those places are really not too far from each other, given the sort of distances families tended to move. At the very least they are all in the same general "middle" area of the large county of Northumberland. However, you have whetted my appetite, and no doubt those of others, by mentioning Thornton in the same sentence as Netherwitton. As you may know, there was a landed family named Thornton who had their estate at Netherwitton at a quite early date, and of whom was the famous (locally, anyway) Roger Thornton, best described as "Newcastle's answer to Dick Whittington". Having arrived in Newcastle, probably to be apprenticed to a local merchant, but with virtually no worldly goods ("At the West Gate came Thornton in, with a hap and a halfpenny in a lamb's skin" as the local rhyme had it) he went on, after initial setbacks, to become a very successful merchant himself, being three times Lord Mayor of Newcastle. He and his wife are the subjects of the magnificent Thornton Brass, which was in All Saints' Church for centuries before being removed to St Nicholas', now the Cathedral, in the mid-20th century and last seen by me a couple of years or so ago, more or less covered by some very heavy-looking pews! His family at Netherwitton is the subject of a pedigree in one of the Histories of Northumberland. I think it is in Hodgson's. Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: Fiona J Mitford <[email protected]> To: northumbria <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 13:06 Subject: Re: [NMB] Thornton Family Paul If you go to Google Maps and put these places in, most will show up there. Fee -----Original Message----- From: Paul Hood Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 12:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NMB] Thornton Family I am not from Northumberland and I wondered the distance between places as I have found possible connections with my Thornton family in :- Donking Ridge, Dike Head, Gallows Hill, Rothley, Long Witton, Hartburn, Green Leighton, Rothley Shield, Elph Hills, Shaftoe Grange and Harwood, mainly farmers but a few labourers. Paul .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The BTs on this site for Stockton on Tees are listed as * 1762-1798 <https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11032-26427-24?cc=1309819&wc=MMRX-Y6F:n368151836#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.org%2Frecords%2Fwaypoint%2FMMRX-Y6S%3A759633496%3Fcc%3D1309819&1&leaf=true> * 1798-1832 <https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11032-26427-24?cc=1309819&wc=MMRX-Y6F:n368151836#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.org%2Frecords%2Fwaypoint%2FMMRX-Y6Q%3A1786911499%3Fcc%3D1309819&1&leaf=true> * 1833-1855 <https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11032-26427-24?cc=1309819&wc=MMRX-Y6F:n368151836#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.org%2Frecords%2Fwaypoint%2FMMRX-Y6W%3A276013254%3Fcc%3D1309819&1&leaf=true> * 1838-1852 <https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11032-26427-24?cc=1309819&wc=MMRX-Y6F:n368151836#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.org%2Frecords%2Fwaypoint%2FMMRX-Y6C%3A1914004292%3Fcc%3D1309819&1&leaf=true> * 1858 <https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11032-26427-24?cc=1309819&wc=MMRX-Y6F:n368151836#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.org%2Frecords%2Fwaypoint%2FMMRX-Y6D%3A775389984%3Fcc%3D1309819&1&leaf=true> * 1865-1897 <https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11032-26427-24?cc=1309819&wc=MMRX-Y6F:n368151836#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.org%2Frecords%2Fwaypoint%2FMMRX-Y6F%3An368151836%3Fcc%3D1309819&1&leaf=true> but the second set 1798-1832 are linking to Tynemouth 16 March 1847 Burials to 31 December 1851 Burials and the third 1833-1855 link to Walker 25 September 1852 Baptisms to 27 December 1858 Burials. Has anyone stumbled across Stockton between 1798 and 18388? -- Alan Middlemass Bearpark, Durham, UK I have not made any attachments to this mail

There were 24 'hits' Dorothy -----Original Message----- From: Dorothy Gaunt Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 11:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NMB] Attorney at law, late 18th century Hi Fee The only list on that site is for 1907, despite being labelled 1841 in the heading. ???

Hi graham, sorry I haven't replied to your fairless discussion as I am away in Greece at the moment.. Hopefully I will be able to add some comments on my return.. Yours John ayton Sent from my iPad On 30 May 2013, at 00:11, "Graham & Christine Fairless" <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you everybody for your replies. Here is an update. > > I have found some "articles of clerkship" at Ancestry and at the > National Archives. Under "FAIRLESS" Ancestry have three entries, all for > Edward Thomas Fairless, son of the Edward of my interest. I don't have a > sub to Ancestry so can only see the index entries. There is also one > entry for FAIRLESS, for Edward Thomas 1793, at the National Archives but > I would need to visit to see it. Edward Thomas was born abt 1777 so he > must have been apprenticed when 16 or so. > > So far, it looks like there are no surviving papers for Edward b. abt > 1738. His apprenticeship might have started about 1754 or so. He could > only marry after completing his clerkship - he married Ann HUMPHRIES in > Jun 1763. > > I'll keep digging! > > P.S. Jenny's post has just arrived. I'll send this anyway and then read > her welcome post. Thanks Jenny! > > Regards > Graham > > > On 30/05/2013 7:31 a.m., Nivard Ovington wrote: >> Hi both >> >> One at least is available on Ancestry >> >> England and Wales, Law List, 1843 >> >> Probably to late for your needs >> >> No FAIRLESS listed >> >> There is also one at least on archive.org but although labelled 1841 its >> actually 1907 >> >> There may be more under slightly different names >> >> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > .. > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Fee The only list on that site is for 1907, despite being labelled 1841 in the heading. ??? Dorothy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Fiona J Mitford Sent: Thursday, 30 May 2013 7:17 a.m. To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NMB] Attorney at law, late 18th century Hi Susan try http://archive.org/search.php?query=%22law%20list%22 and then search around, there is at least one from 1841 for the UK [which is probably too late] titled: The law list : being a list of the judges and officers of the different courts of justice; counsel, special pleaders, draftsmen, conveyancers, attorneys, notaries, &amp;c., in England and Wales; and on [http://archive.org/details/lawlist00unkngoog] also try Google books. Regards, Fee -----Original Message----- From: Geoff Nicholson Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 7:30 PM To: [email protected] ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [NMB] Attorney at law, late 18th century Susan: As I said, it's "reference library material". It may be available on line "somewhere", but I am not familiar with all the millions of existing web-sites! You could always google for it. Geoff -----Original Message----- From: Susan C <[email protected]> To: northumbria <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, 29 May 2013 18:59 Subject: Re: [NMB] Attorney at law, late 18th century Hello Geoff, Is the "Law List" available online somewhere? Thanks, Susan ________________________________ From: Geoff Nicholson <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 5:22 AM Subject: Re: [NMB] Attorney at law, late 18th century Graham: You could look at the "Law List", reference library material, published annually since 1775. Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: Graham & Christine Fairless <[email protected]> To: northumbria <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, 29 May 2013 10:32 Subject: [NMB] Attorney at law, late 18th century Hello, I am wondering if the Edward FAIRLESS who died age 78 in Bishop Auckland in 1816 and was an Attorney at law is that baptised in Allendale in 1738. Can I find out anything about him as an attorney - apprenticeship, annual practising certificate, etc.? His indenture might give information about his father. Thanks for your help. Regards Graham .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you everybody for your replies. Here is an update. I have found some "articles of clerkship" at Ancestry and at the National Archives. Under "FAIRLESS" Ancestry have three entries, all for Edward Thomas Fairless, son of the Edward of my interest. I don't have a sub to Ancestry so can only see the index entries. There is also one entry for FAIRLESS, for Edward Thomas 1793, at the National Archives but I would need to visit to see it. Edward Thomas was born abt 1777 so he must have been apprenticed when 16 or so. So far, it looks like there are no surviving papers for Edward b. abt 1738. His apprenticeship might have started about 1754 or so. He could only marry after completing his clerkship - he married Ann HUMPHRIES in Jun 1763. I'll keep digging! P.S. Jenny's post has just arrived. I'll send this anyway and then read her welcome post. Thanks Jenny! Regards Graham On 30/05/2013 7:31 a.m., Nivard Ovington wrote: > Hi both > > One at least is available on Ancestry > > England and Wales, Law List, 1843 > > Probably to late for your needs > > No FAIRLESS listed > > There is also one at least on archive.org but although labelled 1841 its > actually 1907 > > There may be more under slightly different names > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > >

Hello, I am wondering if the Edward FAIRLESS who died age 78 in Bishop Auckland in 1816 and was an Attorney at law is that baptised in Allendale in 1738. Can I find out anything about him as an attorney - apprenticeship, annual practising certificate, etc.? His indenture might give information about his father. Thanks for your help. Regards Graham

Hi both One at least is available on Ancestry England and Wales, Law List, 1843 Probably to late for your needs No FAIRLESS listed There is also one at least on archive.org but although labelled 1841 its actually 1907 There may be more under slightly different names Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Hi Susan try http://archive.org/search.php?query=%22law%20list%22 and then search around, there is at least one from 1841 for the UK [which is probably too late] titled: The law list : being a list of the judges and officers of the different courts of justice; counsel, special pleaders, draftsmen, conveyancers, attorneys, notaries, &amp;c., in England and Wales; and on [http://archive.org/details/lawlist00unkngoog] also try Google books. Regards, Fee -----Original Message----- From: Geoff Nicholson Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 7:30 PM To: [email protected] ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [NMB] Attorney at law, late 18th century Susan: As I said, it's "reference library material". It may be available on line "somewhere", but I am not familiar with all the millions of existing web-sites! You could always google for it. Geoff -----Original Message----- From: Susan C <[email protected]> To: northumbria <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, 29 May 2013 18:59 Subject: Re: [NMB] Attorney at law, late 18th century Hello Geoff, Is the "Law List" available online somewhere? Thanks, Susan ________________________________ From: Geoff Nicholson <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 5:22 AM Subject: Re: [NMB] Attorney at law, late 18th century Graham: You could look at the "Law List", reference library material, published annually since 1775. Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: Graham & Christine Fairless <[email protected]> To: northumbria <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, 29 May 2013 10:32 Subject: [NMB] Attorney at law, late 18th century Hello, I am wondering if the Edward FAIRLESS who died age 78 in Bishop Auckland in 1816 and was an Attorney at law is that baptised in Allendale in 1738. Can I find out anything about him as an attorney - apprenticeship, annual practising certificate, etc.? His indenture might give information about his father. Thanks for your help. Regards Graham .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Susan: As I said, it's "reference library material". It may be available on line "somewhere", but I am not familiar with all the millions of existing web-sites! You could always google for it. Geoff -----Original Message----- From: Susan C <[email protected]> To: northumbria <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, 29 May 2013 18:59 Subject: Re: [NMB] Attorney at law, late 18th century Hello Geoff, Is the "Law List" available online somewhere? Thanks, Susan ________________________________ From: Geoff Nicholson <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 5:22 AM Subject: Re: [NMB] Attorney at law, late 18th century Graham: You could look at the "Law List", reference library material, published annually since 1775. Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: Graham & Christine Fairless <[email protected]> To: northumbria <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, 29 May 2013 10:32 Subject: [NMB] Attorney at law, late 18th century Hello, I am wondering if the Edward FAIRLESS who died age 78 in Bishop Auckland in 1816 and was an Attorney at law is that baptised in Allendale in 1738. Can I find out anything about him as an attorney - apprenticeship, annual practising certificate, etc.? His indenture might give information about his father. Thanks for your help. Regards Graham .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, so I have been looking at the neighbouring parishes, in as many sources as possible. Dustydocs have a pretty good system. No luck so far in: Whitfield St John Lee Blanchland Alston and Garrigill Auckland St Andrew or St Helen Haltwhistle Haydon Bridge Hexham Warden Stanhope Knaresdale Kirkhaugh Whitley Hunstanworth St John's Chapel I have ordered the wills of Matthew FAIRLESS d. 1745, Edward FAIRLESS d.1783, Edward FAIRLESS of the Monk died earlier and a couple of others. OUCH in the pocket! It looks a bit like his baptism was "forgotten" by the minister, or lost from the register, whichever one. Regards Graham On 28/05/2013 8:50 p.m., Paul Redgate wrote: "botp", as I'm sure you're aware, doesn't mean Edward was born in the Parish. I had, and still have, the same problem with an Edward Rowell. Allendale has Cumberland to the West , and County Durham to the South. I checked on my family records and found Fairless' from Nenthead and Stanhope. History of Northumberland sometimes throws up more Records than "familysearch" - BMD Records for Corbridge being a good example. Regards, Paul

Hi All, I am aware that Newcastle library have indexes to burial registers on microfilm for certain years, can any one give me an example as to what info these contain, have contacted the library but no one there appears to know anything about the contents of these records that they hold Thank you Edith

Graham: You could look at the "Law List", reference library material, published annually since 1775. Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: Graham & Christine Fairless <[email protected]> To: northumbria <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, 29 May 2013 10:32 Subject: [NMB] Attorney at law, late 18th century Hello, I am wondering if the Edward FAIRLESS who died age 78 in Bishop Auckland in 1816 and was an Attorney at law is that baptised in Allendale in 1738. Can I find out anything about him as an attorney - apprenticeship, annual practising certificate, etc.? His indenture might give information about his father. Thanks for your help. Regards Graham .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Edith: A lot depends on which period you are referring to! As you don't mention that important point, I shall try to cover all periods. I assume, however, you are interested only in the pre-1837 period, as indexes to all deaths in the Newcastle registration district (not quite t he same as all burials in "Newcastle" but very similar) As far as I am aware, from the National Index of Parish Registers, the only index in Newcastle Library relating to any Newcastle burial register is that for St Nicholas 1587-1773. Volume 28 of the publications of the Durham and Northumberland Parish Register Society covers St Nicholas' marriages and that will include an index but as far as I know, no burials are included as it is marriages only. As you probably know, Newcastle had four "ancient" (ie pre-1600) parishes: St Nicholas (now the Cathedral), St John, St Andrew and All Saints. That library does have the H M Wood transcripts of all the Newcastle parishes up to 1812 - baptisms, marriages and burials, but in general they are not indexed. If you look at them and see an index at the back - beware! Wood often made "partial indexes" which tend to cover only those, usually prominent, families in which he or his antiquarian friends had a particular interest. There may well be effective indexes to some Newcastle parishes for some periods in the National Burial Index (NBI: published by the FFHS - the Federation of Family History Societies). I understand that all submissions to that index are passed to FindMyPast, which includes al the current (2nd) edition and that IF there is to be another (3rd) edition of the NBI it will all be included on FindMyPast anyway. I myself have recently completed transcripts covering certain years for St Andrew's and St Paul's for those purposes, for the Northumberland and Durham Family History Society (NDFHS). In addition, note that the NDFHS publish, on microfiche, on CD and possibly as a booklet, indexes for (a) Northumberland and (b) Co Durham, covering ALL burials within each of those counties, 1813-39. See their web site at www.ndfhs.org.uk, and look under the "Ancestral Indexes" section. Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: Edith Talbot <[email protected]> To: northumbria <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, 29 May 2013 10:02 Subject: [NMB] HELP WITH NEWCASTLE BURIAL REGISTERS Hi All, I am aware that Newcastle library have indexes to burial registers on microfilm for certain years, can any one give me an example as to what info these contain, have contacted the library but no one there appears to know anything about the contents of these records that they hold Thank you Edith .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Geoff, Is the "Law List" available online somewhere?  Thanks, Susan ________________________________ From: Geoff Nicholson <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 5:22 AM Subject: Re: [NMB] Attorney at law, late 18th century Graham:     You could look at the "Law List", reference library material, published annually since 1775.                             Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: Graham & Christine Fairless <[email protected]> To: northumbria <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, 29 May 2013 10:32 Subject: [NMB] Attorney at law, late 18th century   Hello,   I am wondering if the Edward FAIRLESS who died age 78 in Bishop Auckland in   1816 and was an Attorney at law is that baptised in Allendale in 1738.   Can I find out anything about him as an attorney - apprenticeship, annual   practising certificate, etc.? His indenture might give information about his   father.   Thanks for your help.   Regards   Graham .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Graham: From the "Allendale" point of view, the obvious omission from this list is Ninebanks (registers begin 1767). There is also Carrshield (bur registers begin only in 1823). From the Stanhope/Weardale end there is also Heatherycleugh (apparently founded in 1723 but registers date only from 1825). I see you have checked on Kirkhaugh registers but do you realise that although they apparently go back to 1760, what you have, at least up to 1810 is material taken/transcribed from the BTs and from 1810 to 1825 transcribed from the burnt remains of the original registers, destroyed in a fire in c1825 and "reconstructed" by the then Vicar's daughter. Another comment - I see you have looked at Haltwhistle and at Knaresdale, so why not include also Lambley, which lies between those two parishes? Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: Graham & Christine Fairless <[email protected]> To: northumbria <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, 28 May 2013 23:01 Subject: [NMB] Raven and Fairless Allendale Stanhope Yes, so I have been looking at the neighbouring parishes, in as many sources as possible. Dustydocs have a pretty good system. No luck so far in: Whitfield St John Lee Blanchland Alston and Garrigill Auckland St Andrew or St Helen Haltwhistle Haydon Bridge Hexham Warden Stanhope Knaresdale Kirkhaugh Whitley Hunstanworth St John's Chapel I have ordered the wills of Matthew FAIRLESS d. 1745, Edward FAIRLESS d.1783, Edward FAIRLESS of the Monk died earlier and a couple of others. OUCH in the pocket! It looks a bit like his baptism was "forgotten" by the minister, or lost from the register, whichever one. Regards Graham On 28/05/2013 8:50 p.m., Paul Redgate wrote: "botp", as I'm sure you're aware, doesn't mean Edward was born in the Parish. I had, and still have, the same problem with an Edward Rowell. Allendale has Cumberland to the West , and County Durham to the South. I checked on my family records and found Fairless' from Nenthead and Stanhope. History of Northumberland sometimes throws up more Records than "familysearch" - BMD Records for Corbridge being a good example. Regards, Paul .. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message