Doreen Perri (Canada) I can't quite figure out who sent this originally to this list - The link is a good idea, and I thank you for posting it.  However, from Canada, it says not found. Thanks again, it would have been great.   Doreen ________________________________ From: "northumbria@rootsweb.com" <northumbria@rootsweb.com> To: northumbria@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 10:37 AM Subject: [NMB] Burials - St Andrews Newcastle This link may be of interest to anyone who is looking for burials in the Newcastle area: http://www.jwillans.freeserve.co.uk/st_andrews_cemetery_inscriptions.pdf. > Ruth .. Please use "REPLY ALL" to respond to list messages, and please introduce yourself at the top of every post. The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Geoff, Just a reminder - NDFHS has copies of Fine and Private place in the online shop. www.ndfhs.org.uk and follow the NDFHS shop button Regards Gerry Langley NDFHS Sales

I am trying to find the death or burial of my 4x great grandfather Henry Hardy. The only information that I have is that he was probably born in about 1764, (baptism 12 August, 1864 Castle Garth Presbyterian Newcastle), his occupation was a butcher, and he had two children baptised at All Saints, Newcastle - Henry, October 1, 1786 and David, September 27, 1789. I do not know the name of his wife - it is not noted in the baptism records. Thanks for any help Heather

Hi Geoff, Yes I do mix the cemeteries, keep forgetting about the others. I have emailed the friends of Jesmond Old Cemetery and will try and obtain a copy of the CD/book you mentioned. Thanks a lot, Gwyneth Cold here in Sydney

Thanks Brian, I will give it a go. Cheers Gwyneth Sydney On 6/08/14 7:11 PM, "Brian Pears via" <northumbria@rootsweb.com> wrote: > On 05/08/2014 23:13, Gwyneth Watson User via wrote: >> Also for Stone 768 he mentions Charles Hancock from London who died while on >> holiday - it doesn't prove he is there of course but it is the only lead I >> have so far. That is why I asked if Jesmond Cemetery records are >> searchable. > > Hi Gwyneth > > I'm not aware of any published transcripts, but Tyne & Wear Archives in > Blandford Street West, Newcastle have an Index of Burials (1857-1998), > Burial Registers 1836-1998, Grave Registers 1838-1997 and a Grave Index > 1843-1949 for Jesmond Old Cemetery [Newcastle General Cemetery]. If you > can't get there in person you may be able to make use of the Archives' > free lookup service to check the indexes and registers. I'm not sure how > this service operates or what restrictions there are, but it's certainly > worth asking. info@twarchives.org.uk > > Brian

Gwyneth: The microfiche/booklet/CD is only available from the NDFHS, Percy House, Percy Street, Newcastle upon Tyne. For the book, while it is just possible the Friends of Jesmond Old Cemetery may have some copies for sale, your best bet would have been to contact (1) Newcastle Library (Avison House, New Bridge Street, Newcastle upon Tyne) or any bookseller (that is why I gave you the ISBN, which should enable any serious bookshop, anywhere in the world, to order it for you, if it is still in print). However, I doubt whether the book is still in print as it was published in 2000. The only Hancocks mentioned in the book are the naturalists. Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: Gwyneth Watson User <cannycot@gmail.com> To: Geoff Nicholson <geoff.nicholson@aol.co.uk>; northumbria <northumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 8:41 Subject: Re: [NMB] Charles HANCOCK Hi Geoff, Yes I do mix the cemeteries, keep forgetting about the others. I have emailed the friends of Jesmond Old Cemetery and will try and obtain a copy of the CD/book you mentioned. Thanks a lot, Gwyneth Cold here in Sydney

On 05/08/2014 23:13, Gwyneth Watson User via wrote: > Also for Stone 768 he mentions Charles Hancock from London who died while on > holiday - it doesn't prove he is there of course but it is the only lead I > have so far. That is why I asked if Jesmond Cemetery records are > searchable. Hi Gwyneth I'm not aware of any published transcripts, but Tyne & Wear Archives in Blandford Street West, Newcastle have an Index of Burials (1857-1998), Burial Registers 1836-1998, Grave Registers 1838-1997 and a Grave Index 1843-1949 for Jesmond Old Cemetery [Newcastle General Cemetery]. If you can't get there in person you may be able to make use of the Archives' free lookup service to check the indexes and registers. I'm not sure how this service operates or what restrictions there are, but it's certainly worth asking. info@twarchives.org.uk Brian -- Brian Pears (Gateshead)

Edwin Dodds. I don't know if he transcribed the whole cemetery or not but he did write up "Notes additional to Gravestones" for Jesmond Cemetery of which I have a copy. Obviously a lot are pertaining to our family, some others he knew or knew of their families and he also links some 'notes' to other gravestones, and has notes from the Newcastle Courant. It makes interesting reading. ie Stone 768 - Jane Skeffington is linked to stone 734 Matthew S Dodds his aunt, also to stone 2096 J O Scott who married Charle's sister, Jane Skeffington Hancock. Also for Stone 768 he mentions Charles Hancock from London who died while on holiday - it doesn't prove he is there of course but it is the only lead I have so far. That is why I asked if Jesmond Cemetery records are searchable. Cheers Gwyneth Sydney PS I'm happy to search his notes if it helps anyone.

Gwyneth: I have kept out of this discussion so far, as Brian seems to have it well in hand, but I should explain that I found it very vague when you mentioned "Jesmond Cemetery", as that term could possibly mean any one of three large cemeteries! One is St Andrews parish cemetery, to the east of the North Road (ie opposite the Town Moor). Another is All Saints Parish Cemetery on the north side of Jesmond Road and the other - and the one you are now referring to - is the (originally anyway) private cemetery, Newcastle General Cemetery, sometimes called "Jesmond Old Cemetery", on the south side of Jesmond Road. Only a few copies of Dodds' typescript still exist, the most accessible being that in Newcastle Central Library - or you may find that the SoG have a copy which you could look at if you live near London. For that reason the NDFHS re-published it on microfiche several years ago, and that is now available on CD or as a booklet - see www.ndfhs.org.uk for a list of their publications. Edwin Dodds was a friend of the likes of Herbert Maxwell Wood, the transcriber of most Northumberland and Durham pre-1812 parish registers. Wood was also the Secretary of the Durham and Northumberland Parish Register Society (DNPRS), hence all his MSS now in Newcastle Library as the "Wood Transcripts". Dodds fitted into all that because he owned a stationery firm, based on Newcastle Quayside, and supplied Wood and the rest of the DNPRS with the large amount of foolscap paper they needed, often with pre-printed page headings. Because Newcastle General Cemetery was a private one and was founded in the late 1830s, some 20 years before the Municipal Cemeteries Act, it tends to contain the graves of "the great and the good" of Victorian Newcastle, including any who are household names to this day - Fenwicks the store owners, Dobson the architect, Hancocks the ornithological collectors, founders of the Hancock Museum, etc, etc. It is still in use - Sid Chaplin the author was buried there in 1986. You might be interested in Alan Morgan's book "A Fine and Private Place: Jesmond Old Cemetery", all about the cemetery and some of those buried there (Tyne Bridge Publishing, the publishing arm of Newcastle Library, 2000: ISBN 1 85795 155 7, 80 pages, well illustrated, glossy paperback. Dodds' transcript was made about 1918 and so covers all stones which were there at that time. The burial registers, which will cover all burials in the cemetery, whether recorded on a stone of not, will be in Tyne and Wear Archives. Geoff Nicholson -----Original Message----- From: Gwyneth Watson User via <northumbria@rootsweb.com> To: Brian Pears <brian@bpears.org.uk>; northumbria <northumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 23:16 Subject: Re: [NMB] Charles HANCOCK Edwin Dodds. I don't know if he transcribed the whole cemetery or not but he did write up "Notes additional to Gravestones" for Jesmond Cemetery of which I have a copy. Obviously a lot are pertaining to our family, some others he knew or knew of their families and he also links some 'notes' to other gravestones, and has notes from the Newcastle Courant. It makes interesting reading. ie Stone 768 - Jane Skeffington is linked to stone 734 Matthew S Dodds his aunt, also to stone 2096 J O Scott who married Charle's sister, Jane Skeffington Hancock. Also for Stone 768 he mentions Charles Hancock from London who died while on holiday - it doesn't prove he is there of course but it is the only lead I have so far. That is why I asked if Jesmond Cemetery records are searchable. Cheers Gwyneth Sydney PS I'm happy to search his notes if it helps anyone. .. Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please introduce yourself at the top of every post. The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Brian, Sorry in the delay in replying, since Rootsweb's mess up a lot of my messages are going to my junk file and I forgot to check recently. I think I may have found him buried in Jesmond Cemetery possibly with Jane Skeffington who was his aunt. She died at the house of James P Lindsay of Gosforth 1877. I'm not sure if this cemetery is searchable or not? Thanks muchly Gwyneth Sydney On 2/08/14 7:33 AM, "Brian Pears" <brian@bpears.org.uk> wrote: > On 01/08/2014 21:41, Gwyneth Watson User via wrote: >> The above died Oct 1892 at Shaw's Hotel, Gelsland while on holiday, >> bachelor. He was born Shoreditch 1842 and seemed to have a variety of work, >> one being an Indigo Broker (whatever that was). I have him in the 1841/51 >> census then possibly overseas. I am wondering where he is buried please? He >> had relations in the area some of which are in Jesmond Cemetery. NUT. Could >> sks please let me know if he is there, headstone etc or was he taken back >> to London? > > Gwyneth > > That's Shaw's Hotel, Gilsland - now known as Gilsland Spa Hotel. > > http://www.gilslandspa.co.uk/ > > Perhaps he is buried in or around Gilsland - you may be able to > get assistance from the ENG-CUMBRIA list. > > Brian

On 05/08/2014 10:22, Gwyneth Watson User via wrote: > I think I may have found him buried in Jesmond Cemetery possibly with Jane > Skeffington who was his aunt. She died at the house of James P Lindsay of > Gosforth 1877. I'm not sure if this cemetery is searchable or not? Hi Gwyneth You say you may have found him buried in Jesmond Cemetery - what is your source for this? Brian -- Brian Pears (Gateshead)

Hi Nivard, Yes I always try to read them myself however today I have gone blind trying, will keep trying (recovering from the flu so a good occupation). I was just wondering if there was an easier way as it is rather long and involved. I also know that some years later another opinion on the Will was sort (I have copy of that). I have tried the London List with no success. I haven't used Findmypast before, will check out the costs as I have a full registration with Ancestry. Thomas also mentions his sister-in-laws and brother-in-laws which would help me with extra relatives. Many thanks for your help, Cheers Gwyneth Sydney

On 03/08/2014 16:55, Heather Punshon via wrote: > I am trying to find the death or burial record for my 3x grand father > William VINTON. > William was born in 1775 in Winlaton Mill, > and I know from the death certificate of his wife Elizabeth > that he died before 14 October 1838. > She died on that date at Garden Street, Gateshead and was a widow. > His youngest child was born in 1811 baptised in Gateshead, > so his death was in the range of years of 1810 to 1838!!! Hi Heather I think this entry from Ballast Hills Cemetery is your man Ballast Hills Cemetery, Newcastle 27 Dec 1813 William VINTON of Gateshead, aged 38 Brian -- Brian Pears (Gateshead)

Hello, On Ancestry is a copy of the above Will which is exceedingly difficult to read. I am wondering if I purchased the probate etc would I obtain a copy of the Will which would be easier to read please? Or at least have the beneficiaries listed more plainly. Many thanks Gwyneth Sydney

David, If you go into your programme that you use to search, go to History and it should list everything site that you have visited and then click on it to return to the site. Regards David On 3 August 2014 09:56, David Scott via <northumbria@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Good Morning, > I am researching the life and times of the Rev. Arthur ALLWORK, who became > vicar of Whickham. > The other day, I found an online text which listed this gentleman on his > taking over the living. Sadly, I was called away just as I discovered > that the site had a lot of useful information and dates, and since then I > have been trying to retrace my steps to find the site again. Without > success! > Does this information ring any bells with anyone, and can you prod me in > the right direction. And ... > Of course, learn by my mistakes, and note down useful sites, so that you > can get back to them without the hassle that I have had! > Any help will be greatly received, > David Scott. > > > > > > > .. > Please quote the minimum necessary to put your reply on context. Please > introduce yourself at the top of every post. > > The NORTHUMBRIA FAQ page is located at > http://www.bpears.org.uk/NorthumbriaFAQ/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORTHUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Good Morning, I am researching the life and times of the Rev. Arthur ALLWORK, who became vicar of Whickham. The other day, I found an online text which listed this gentleman on his taking over the living. Sadly, I was called away just as I discovered that the site had a lot of useful information and dates, and since then I have been trying to retrace my steps to find the site again. Without success! Does this information ring any bells with anyone, and can you prod me in the right direction. And ... Of course, learn by my mistakes, and note down useful sites, so that you can get back to them without the hassle that I have had! Any help will be greatly received, David Scott.

Hello everyone I am trying to find the death or burial record for my 3x grand father William VINTON. William was born in 1775 in Winlaton Mill, and I know from the death certificate of his wife Elizabeth that he died before 14 October 1838. She died on that date at Garden Street, Gateshead and was a widow. His youngest child was born in 1811 baptised in Gateshead, so his death was in the range of years of 1810 to 1838!!! Any help is appreciated Heather

Hi Gwyneth Not sure what you mean by buy the probate? The will on Ancestry is the probate, his will from the Prerogative Court of Canterbury In my experience, although hard to read, the most benefit is gained by transcribing it yourself, although they look daunting you soon get the knack of reading them You are lucky in this case as there is a Bank of England extract for his will (available on findmypast) which names :- widow Jane SKEFFINGTON Executors James FARQUHAR Edward REEVES John DODDS Sons Thomas SKEFFINGTON James Farquhar SKEFFINGTON Daughters Jane SKEFFINGTON Mary Ann SKEFFINGTON Ann Dodds SKEFFINGTON <https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Bank_of_England_Will_Extracts> Thomas SKEFFINGTON married Jane DODDS in London in 1797 All of the above being in London its perhaps better to post on a London list or perhaps I missed something? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 03/08/2014 06:42, Gwyneth Watson User via wrote: > Hello, > > On Ancestry is a copy of the above Will which is exceedingly difficult to > read. I am wondering if I purchased the probate etc would I obtain a copy > of the Will which would be easier to read please? Or at least have the > beneficiaries listed more plainly. > > Many thanks > Gwyneth > Sydney

Hello, The above died Oct 1892 at Shaw's Hotel, Gelsland while on holiday, bachelor. He was born Shoreditch 1842 and seemed to have a variety of work, one being an Indigo Broker (whatever that was). I have him in the 1841/51 census then possibly overseas. I am wondering where he is buried please? He had relations in the area some of which are in Jesmond Cemetery. NUT. Could sks please let me know if he is there, headstone etc or was he taken back to London? Many thanks, Gwyneth Sydney

On 01/08/2014 21:41, Gwyneth Watson User via wrote: > The above died Oct 1892 at Shaw's Hotel, Gelsland while on holiday, > bachelor. He was born Shoreditch 1842 and seemed to have a variety of work, > one being an Indigo Broker (whatever that was). I have him in the 1841/51 > census then possibly overseas. I am wondering where he is buried please? He > had relations in the area some of which are in Jesmond Cemetery. NUT. Could > sks please let me know if he is there, headstone etc or was he taken back > to London? Gwyneth That's Shaw's Hotel, Gilsland - now known as Gilsland Spa Hotel. http://www.gilslandspa.co.uk/ Perhaps he is buried in or around Gilsland - you may be able to get assistance from the ENG-CUMBRIA list. Brian -- Brian Pears (Gateshead)