I'm sorry to be posting this question to so many of my lists, but I need serious help here. You all know I've been at a VERY TALL brick wall with these people and I can't stand not finding them on ANY ship lists. I know that they showed up in the Philadelphia area census in 1857. This means that James and Agnes HAD TO SAIL BETWEEN 1853 AND 1857, right??? Every site I go to that has ship lists and dates skip from 1850 to 1860, then I get frustrated. Are there ANY ships that ANYONE knows about that sailed between 1853 and 1857 and where I might find the lists??? Ok, I think I feel a little better now. :D launie reid graffeo (getting ready to deny my reid part, just kidding.)