Glad you had a somewhat fulfilling visit to the Record Office, Dave. It looks like you've discovered the "Lewis" connection. And don't forget, those Chesterton's in Canada have a PERCY LEWIS CHESTERTON, b. 1898 in Leicester, son of a JOHN CHESTERTON, b. 1870. Which reminds me... watch out for "date" information. Sometimes the "christening" date is recorded and not the "birthdate." But back to Robert and Esther. You do know that Esther's maiden name was Hardwick? and that I have the 1838 marriage certificate? Well the certificate shows the witnesses to be John Hardwick and Sarah Chesterton. I believe the witness John Hardwick may have been the bride's brother, and I'm almost positive Sarah was the groom's sister. Then @1843, Robert and Esther had a son and named him JOHN HARDWICK CHESTERTON after Esther's brother. Might help, Dave, if you could locate JOHN HARDWICK CHESTERTON's birth certificate @1843, in Leicester. If he is indeed Robt & Esther's son, then he is also the older brother of ROBERT CHESTERTON, born in 1847 to the same Robt & Esther, at #14 Churchgate St., East Leicester. For your further information, the certificate also shows Esther's father to be THOMAS HARDWICK and Robert's father to be RICHARD CHESTERTON. NOW HERE'S THE BOTTOM LINE: If we can prove that MY Robert Edw. Chesterton (now presumed to be brother of John Hardwick Chesterton) is REALLY & TRULY the son of Robt. & Esther....I think we can say we're related! I just need to be sure that MY Great-Grandfather Robt. Edw. (husband of Julia Garratt of Nottingham), is the very same Robert who was born to Esther & Robt at 14 Churchgate St in 1847. I have two documents: an 1877 Nottingham marriage certificate for my great-grandparents, Julia & Robt. Edw. Chesterton, listing Robt. Edw's father as "Robert Chesterton, Jeweler". BUT it doesn't name the mother of the groom (too bad) nor does it give the a birthdate for the groom (too bad again, because if it said "1847" that would have clinched it). As you can see, I still need confirmation that my Robt. Edw. is the same Robt. born to Robert & Esther in 1847 at Leicester. Well....keep it coming Dave. I haven't had time to think about the other info in same message, but I'll be in touch. P.S. Who in your family originally discovered that "Hardwick" was John Chesterton's middle name? Dave Chesterton wrote: > > Part 1.1 Type: Plain Text (text/plain) > Encoding: quoted-printable