Dear Ella Many thanks for your help I will look into see if the braniffs you mentioned will be related I have been trying for 5 yrs and can't seem to find anyone who wants to own up that they might belong to me .Just had some e mail from New Zeland and Austrilia that seem to be a connection. Many thanks Ellen {Braniff} De Souter New York U S A Searching Braniff In Downpatrick Belfast """""" Mitchell Belfast """"""Smyth / Smith--Lawler Athy Co Kildare Coleman/ Gore/ Miles/myles Athy Co Kildare