Hi Opal. My great great grandfather was John Tainor, from Ballykinlar. His approx dob is 1825. I do not know the name of his wife. His daughter Rose, dob approx 1850, married Edward Fitzsimmons, from North Tyrella(Carrikannab), on 27 Nov 1871. Their daughter (my grandmother), Rose Anne Fitzsimmons married Owen Davey, my grandfather, in 1898. Their first child was my Dad, Owen Davey, born in Belfast in 1899. Rose and Edward had two daughters, my grandmother and her sister. Edward died at an early age. Rose left for America alone, sometime in the late 1880s, presumably to join relatives or find work. Her two children were left with relatives. She was never heard from again. Ballykinlar is a Townland in Tyrella Parish, not far from Downpatrick in County Down. It is the home location for many of the Trainor and Fitzsimmons family who have lived there for hundreds of years. As you noted, there are many variations of the name. I am not sure if we are related somewhwere in the past but there is a good chance of it. I visited Tyrella and the area with my wife in 1989. It is a pretty place. For more info on the documentary record go back to the Caora site which explaines the nature of the sources it uses. Send me a note if you can think of any questions I may be able to help you with. My Davey ancestors come from Ballynahinch which is just a bit north and east, about 10 miles or so, from Tyrella/Ballykinlar. I live in the village of Gagetown, New Brunswick, Canada. Regards Owen Davey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Opal Danner" <odanner@bellsouth.net> To: <NorthernIrelandGenWeb-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 3:09 PM Subject: [NIR-GW] Patrick Trainer-1818 > Desperately looking for a Trainer/Traynor connection. I think my > great-grandfather, Patrick Trainer, lived close to the Irish Sea. He left > Ireland prior to 1853 ---- he was born c 1818 in County Down. Are there > any Trainers out there on the net that are reading this???? > > Opal Traynor Danner > > > > ==== NorthernIrelandGenWeb Mailing List ==== > *** Tired of this LIST? Going on vacation, a business trip? *** > Send email with word, UNSUBSCRIBE, in the Subject & Message area to: NorthernIrelandGenWeb-L-request@rootsweb.com. Digest? change "L" to "D". > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >