If any of you have cemetery listings, could you possibly look for a listing for Denis Treanor in the Ballykinler area? It would probably be after 1843. Also---does anyone know if that area was Protestant or Catholic, or whatever---- Opal Traynor Danner Norcross, GA

Hello Group; Can anyone tell me of a place called Birney in Tyrone or a Birney Square somewhere in Ireland? Both are used as place names in the context where I found them. Please reply to Ken Birney at: birneygenealogy@sympatico.ca -- http://www3.sympatico.ca/ken.birney -The original BIRNEY site, updated regularly. http://www3.sympatico.ca/ken.birney/patterns.htm -For Woodcrafts

Does anyone have any information about the family of John and Mary Devlin of Tyrone? Their son, Lawrence, was born ca 1855 and migrated to New Zealand some time before 1885. I believe his parents did not migrate. Not much to go on ,is it? If anyone can help in any way I'd be most grateful. Margaret in NZ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com

In a message dated 11/5/2002 3:09:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, odanner@bellsouth.net writes: > Are there > any Trainers out there on the net that are reading this???? > > My Trainor's were from Fintona,County Tyrone.

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Not living in Ireland, I have considered paying someone else to do some research for me, but I am not very happy about the way researchers (individuals and organisations) seem to operate. Here in England it is often possible to engage a researcher to work in a kind of "piecemeal" fashion - to look up a few specific entries in registers, or to obtain a single census extract etc - but all the researchers I have found in Northern Ireland asked for a fee to cover maybe 3-4 hours work - and the rates are all higher than many English ones. I am reluctant to make this kind of arrangement because (a) I don't know at the start how much information I will get for the money; and (b) it feels as though I am handing over control of my research to someone else. In any case, it can be useful to assess a researcher on the basis of a small piece of work before asking them to do something bigger. The parish I am particularly interested in has had its memorial inscriptions transcribed, but these can only be accessed if you ask the body/bodies holding them to undertake a fuller research project. To obtain just the MIs I am interested in would cost getting on for 10 times what I might pay for a booklet or fiche of all the MIs for an English parish - and a full listing often allows you to discover much more information about the parish as a whole, as well as possibly new connections. Am I alone in feeling unhappy about these arrangements? And has anyone had any better experiences? Arthur Kennedy

If any of you have cemetery listings, could you possibly look for a listing for Denis Treanor in the Ballykinler area? It would probably be after 1843. Also---does anyone know if that area was Protestant or Catholic, or whatever---- Opal Traynor Danner Norcross, GA

Hi I,m a newbie to the list and my interests are in the COURTENAY and SINGER families at present. MY main interest is in JOHN CHARLES COURTENAY at present he apparently owned land in SEAFIN and DERRAMORE back in the 1850,s Does anyone know if these places still exist and if so where are they. Also looking for PALL MALL in the county of MIDDLESEX, I know there is a Mddlesex in England but was there ever one in IRELAND around the 1850,s. Any help on this would be appreciated.

Hi Opal. My great great grandfather was John Tainor, from Ballykinlar. His approx dob is 1825. I do not know the name of his wife. His daughter Rose, dob approx 1850, married Edward Fitzsimmons, from North Tyrella(Carrikannab), on 27 Nov 1871. Their daughter (my grandmother), Rose Anne Fitzsimmons married Owen Davey, my grandfather, in 1898. Their first child was my Dad, Owen Davey, born in Belfast in 1899. Rose and Edward had two daughters, my grandmother and her sister. Edward died at an early age. Rose left for America alone, sometime in the late 1880s, presumably to join relatives or find work. Her two children were left with relatives. She was never heard from again. Ballykinlar is a Townland in Tyrella Parish, not far from Downpatrick in County Down. It is the home location for many of the Trainor and Fitzsimmons family who have lived there for hundreds of years. As you noted, there are many variations of the name. I am not sure if we are related somewhwere in the past but there is a good chance of it. I visited Tyrella and the area with my wife in 1989. It is a pretty place. For more info on the documentary record go back to the Caora site which explaines the nature of the sources it uses. Send me a note if you can think of any questions I may be able to help you with. My Davey ancestors come from Ballynahinch which is just a bit north and east, about 10 miles or so, from Tyrella/Ballykinlar. I live in the village of Gagetown, New Brunswick, Canada. Regards Owen Davey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Opal Danner" <odanner@bellsouth.net> To: <NorthernIrelandGenWeb-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 3:09 PM Subject: [NIR-GW] Patrick Trainer-1818 > Desperately looking for a Trainer/Traynor connection. I think my > great-grandfather, Patrick Trainer, lived close to the Irish Sea. He left > Ireland prior to 1853 ---- he was born c 1818 in County Down. Are there > any Trainers out there on the net that are reading this???? > > Opal Traynor Danner > > > > ==== NorthernIrelandGenWeb Mailing List ==== > *** Tired of this LIST? Going on vacation, a business trip? *** > Send email with word, UNSUBSCRIBE, in the Subject & Message area to: NorthernIrelandGenWeb-L-request@rootsweb.com. Digest? change "L" to "D". > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Desperately looking for a Trainer/Traynor connection. I think my great-grandfather, Patrick Trainer, lived close to the Irish Sea. He left Ireland prior to 1853 ---- he was born c 1818 in County Down. Are there any Trainers out there on the net that are reading this???? Opal Traynor Danner

1901 Irish Census on my web site at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jeanmccarthy36 I have published another three films on my web site. They are for the Falls, St Anne’s and the Smithfield wards of Belfast. They are at the bottom of Census Three D. I have also updated the Belfast Street Directory for the Falls Ward, Smithfield Ward, St. Annes Ward and Court Ward. Thanks to Jill Wood in New Zealand I have also updated the St Georges Ward. Thanks so very much once again Jill, I know everybody appreciates you sharing your research with us. I will update the Streets & Wards pages as soon as possible. Please note the street directory gives the name of the street, the name of the ward, the PRONI film number and the LDS film number. I am adding to these all the time. The Streets and wards pages are just that. If you know the name of the street you are looking for. This is an alphabetical list of the streets that were in Belfast in 1901. You can look up what ward a particular street was in from this list. This makes it easier to locate the film number you need to order if you want to search the 1901 census. Kindest Regards. Jean McCarthy nee Moore. Staffordshire, England. My own main names of interest: MOORE (Ireland, Canada & Australia) BOWDEN (Ireland, New Zealand, Tasmania & Australia) HAWTHORNE (Ireland and Pennsylvania) In Co Down, Co Armagh & Co Antrim Ireland: McCALLISTER McAULEY FLINN STRAIN SPRATT McLAUGHLAN KENNEDY

my ggghrandfather,Bernard Lynch was b in Ireland in1796,where and who his parent were ,I don't know.Bernard was married to Hannah (or Herriet)?,had two sons George b1822and Charles b1826.They immigrated from Londonderry to St Johns,New Brunswick in May,1834 on the Leslie Gault.Thank you for any assistance,Marguerite

The last email I just sent was not meant for this list and was supposed to be personal. When will these lists all work the same with responses when replying? Norm

Hi Jean; Now I don't want you to ever be lonely! Long time now communicate, but I have seen your posts from time to time. Bummer on the computer problems. I sent another English Lady some suggestions on "loss prevention". I will include it in this email for you to see if there is anything there that you can use. My wife has been real sick and I have taken a long time off the mailing lists, but been reading them daily. She has some kind of auto immune problems that is causing some paralysis and severe headaches. The Dr. has been trying to figure things out now for the last 2 1/2 months and still no answers. Here are the computer suggestions: Well now it dawns on me that I too have been hit with something that won't let my main computer boot up. I was running Norton Disk Dr. when everything went to H*** in a hen basket. Been working all day trying to get it to boot up again. I can get to the hard drive and all my data though. I will send the suggestions tomorrow to you. Norm ` ----- Original Message ----- From: <JeanMcCarthy36@aol.com> To: <NorthernIrelandGenWeb-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:09 PM Subject: [NIR-GW] Computer Disasters! > <PRE>To anybody who has been in touch with me. Would you please contact me again? > My main computer is away having a new motherboard fitted and my laptop is > having a new hard drive fitted.Talk about Murphy's Law! I have lost all my > e-mail and website addresses as well as the contents of my filing cabinet. I > have borrowed my daughter's laptop computer so I am able to send and receive > e-mails. Many thanks in advance to all who respond as it is very lonely out > here without you! Kindest Regards. Jean McCarthy nee Moore. > > > ==== NorthernIrelandGenWeb Mailing List ==== > Uh-Oh!!! <----- Missed or deleted a post that would put a crack in your > wall? Remember, day and night, the RootsWeb Archives are always there to > browse or search from http://www.rootsweb.com . > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

<PRE>To anybody who has been in touch with me. Would you please contact me again? My main computer is away having a new motherboard fitted and my laptop is having a new hard drive fitted.Talk about Murphy's Law! I have lost all my e-mail and website addresses as well as the contents of my filing cabinet. I have borrowed my daughter's laptop computer so I am able to send and receive e-mails. Many thanks in advance to all who respond as it is very lonely out here without you! Kindest Regards. Jean McCarthy nee Moore.

I have created a new Forum & Group for those interested in the Campbell surname and their family ties and roots, generally for those researching connections in Australia. The Group is with Yahoo, it's free to belong and join others with a "Campbell" Australian connection. The Group "IS" moderated both for membership and for email's. You can subscribe from the Web address, located at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CampbellsAustralia Or subscribe direct with email, adding the word 'subscribe' in the subject heading to: CampbellsAustralia-subscribe@yahoogroups.com If you would like to subscribe please be patient until the Group develops some numbers, we look forward to any new members to the Group. Best Wishes Don Johnston

Thanks: I guess Plimmer moved up the street, or down the street. I think he had the photo taken a year before emigrating. Don J Boyle Brantford Ontario, Canada Armstrong, Boyle, Corbett, Merriam, Thompson, Magarrell, Alford, Cooke, Went

on 9/26/02 11:07 AM, Don Boyle at donboyle@sympatico.ca wrote: I have a photo CDV of a great uncle taken by T. PLIMMER, 10 High Street, Belfast Can anyone tell me of his dates of operations? The person in the photo, Joseph Armstrong, was said to have emigrated in August 1871, so am trying t confirm this by the photographers date. Don J Boyle Brantford Ontario, Canada Armstrong, Boyle, Corbett, Merriam, Thompson, Magarrell, Alford, Cooke, Went Hi Don, We too have a photo taken by T. PLIMMER of 19 High Street, Belfast, not 10 High Street. Our photo was taken in the early 1890's. Hope this helps. Regards, John Hunter Toronto, Ontario, Canada

I have a photo CDV of a great uncle taken by T. PLIMMER, 10 High Street, Belfast Can anyone tell me of his dates of operations? The person in the photo, Joseph Armstrong, was said to have emigrated in August 1871, so am trying t confirm this by the photographers date. Don J Boyle Brantford Ontario, Canada Armstrong, Boyle, Corbett, Merriam, Thompson, Magarrell, Alford, Cooke, Went

Looking for connections to the following: Regards Judy HALL *John HALL married Eliza FULTON, daughter of George FULTON and Susannah and christened in February 1800 in Donaghmore, Tyrone (to be confirmed) Children: 1. Elizabeth, christened 8 October 1820, in the parish of Donaghmore, Tyrone 2. Margaret, christened in April 1823 in the parish of Donaghmore, Tyrone 3. Sarah, christened in April 1823 in the parish of Donaghmore, Tyrone 4. Elizabeth, born 10 May 1828 in the parish of Camus, Tyrone 5. *John (John Thomas), born 9 September 1832 in the parish of Camus, Tyrone John married Mary Jane HAMILTON (b 1841 to William HAMILTON, Ballyshiel, ARM) marr 7 May 1858 Clare Presb.Church, Tandragee, Armagh (emig to Australia 1863) 6. Jane Eliza chr 1844 Tandragee, Armagh 7. Sarah Matilda chr 1849 Tandragee, Armagh * John married Mary Jane HAMILTON (b 1841 to William HAMILTON, Ballyshiel, ARM) marr 7 May 1858 Clare Presb.Church, Tandragee, Armagh Children: 1. *William John b 1859 IRL mar Eva Margaretha HERTRICH Ipswich Qld, AUS 2. Sarah Ann b 1860 IRL d 1865 Ipswich Qld AUS 3. Margaret Jane b1863 Ipswich Qld AUS marr 1. William EATON 1881 Ipswich 2. John James GRIFFITHS 1927 4. Sarah ANN b 1866 Ipswich marr 1. Henry REED 2. David NICHOLLS 5. Thomas Henry (Henry) b c1869 6. James Martin b 1871 Ipswich mar Annie MURRAY 7. Mary Elizabeth b 1873 Mt Walker, Qld mar Samuel LANGDON