Hello, I have been given a pair of very old rosary beads. My grandfather brought them with him when he left Ireland at around 16 years of age (he was born in 1887). He was born in County Fermanagh in Newtownbutler. The rosaries are very small. They are broken but when they are laid out in a straight line they measure 12 ins. including the crucifix. The crucifix itself measures only 1 inch. They are dark blue teal in color. The actual beads are very tiny. If anyone has any type of historical information on this type of rosary beads or has a pair like them in their family, please email me. Thank you very much. Kathy

I have a genealogical puzzle with some missing bits and pieces. I need some kind souls with more experience than I currently possess to help me figure it out, or to tell me it is definitely the end of the line. The information below is from the Family Bible of George McCamon, who died 26 Apr 1907 in Florence, Kansas, USA. Another page lists as his parents, Robert T. McCamon (1795-1871) and Elizabeth Wessells (1797-1849). The information is handwritten (beautiful script) on a scrap of paper pasted into the Bible, but is so faint that the copy machine could barely pick it up. The resultant copy is difficult to read, has black speckles all over it (they reproduce beautifully). To the best of my ability, it reads: George McCamon of Belfast, _______ of ________ Tanner & Shoemaker was born the 22n March_________ Married to Sarah Moore on the 7th March 17?9 - _________ to Captain John Moore who was Father to Robert Moore who was Master of The A__(a descending loop here, j? y? p?)______ Privateer out of Belfast in the year 17[7?] The issue from the above mentioned marriage Remaining alive this 27 April 1820 Is, John Moore McCamon, born 12th July 1793 ______ Joseph McCamon – born 12 July 1793 _______ (torn edge of paper) Robert McCamon born 16 May 1795 (torn edge of paper) Sarah McCamon – born 16 J (torn edge of paper) Mary McCamon – born (torn edge of paper) Mary Rogers McCamon (torn edge of paper) was born the 14th Sept (torn edge of paper) born on the 17th Nov (torn edge of paper) born on the 14th (torn edge of paper) Moore ____ (torn edge of paper) [Written vertically on the left side of the page:] Dead. 1 Sarah 2 Margaretts (number?) Georges Is there enough of a date or the ship's name available for someone to narrow down a search in an index of Ships or Privateers, or an index of Ship Captains? I confess I'm very curious about that privateer business. Are there Belfast census or church records for the 1700s? On fiche or film? Robert McCamon (above) emigrated to the Tweed, Ontario, Canada area before 1819. His son George McCamon moved south to Kansas sometime after 1851. Can anyone provide information of George McCamon (Belfast) and Sarah Moore and her male relatives (Belfast)? I have a small amount of information on the Kansas McCamon family that I would be happy to share if anyone is interested. Dorothy Updike

Moore I am looking for my Irish roots. My grandfather was FREDERICK MOORE from Fingal Street, off Shankill Road, Belfast. ( Fingal Street no longer exists ) He was born 14-10-09 and had 5 siblings – Billy, George, Albert, Agnes & Margaret. Fred later moved to Burton on Trent and married Gwendoline Lewis in 1946. Their mother was called MARGARET ( MOORE by marriage but her maiden name is unknown ) and was about 104 when she died. Albert Moore, as mentioned above married Maud and had a daughter called Audrey whom I am very keen to find. Billy moved to Canada. Any help on ancestors/descendants would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Alicia Reade ( [email protected] )

I am not sure how the governmental divisions work. I hope someone can help me. I use to write a second cousin over thirty years ago in Belfast. After her name and street address I wrote Newtown Abbey, Belfast, North Ireland. Would the place and usage of Newtown Abbey be an area of Belfast? Like Over here New York City has boroughs? Brooklyn, Manhattan and such? I have tried looking at maps but I think maps are like dictionaries. You have to know what it is be fore you can find it. Thank you in advance. Terri

Mike Kennedy wrote: > > I am researching the KENNEDY, BROWN, CAVE, and ORR families of County > Down NIR, especially in the area or Killyleagh and Downpatrick. I am > especially interested in the period 1750-1850. Dear Mike, Have you tried the new "online" LDS HFL search? Forgive me if this is old news for you, but with it being so new I thought I'd mention it. I found my great-grandmother MacAulay's line (in County Down) and cousins right here in the U.S. last week using it! The URL is: <http://www.familysearch.org> Good luck! Cindy in Virginia

Lyn, Hi, it's me again. Thought I'd try out my "developing" hunting skills on your Robert Copperthwaite. Your Robert is no connection to me at all, but I'm avoiding sleep now that my wee son is in bed. [grin] Just enjoying the puzzle of it all!! So, have you tried: http://indigo.ie/~rfinder/browse.htm Looks like a pay site, but may be of use since access to records is a problem for you. Have you also tried the LDS site? All the best, Amy

Hello, Lyn! Don't know if you've tried Griffith's Valuation yet or not. I believe there was a Valuatation in 1850. I sent info to the list a couple weeks back about free Griffith's lookups. If you'd like it, email me and I'll send it to you directly as I so recently sent it to the list. Don't know if this is of any help, but hope so! Happy hunting!! Amy

Known: Robert Copperthwaite 82 Lower Gardiner St. Dublin. Was a solicitor here in 1850. My kinsman. How can I trace his descendants to the present day? I live in a geographically isolated part of Australia, far from record offices etc. I would appreciate any advice or help given. All best wishes. Lyn Hotchin [email protected]

Good Scottish Family Research Website. Has some great links to help you with your family research. http://www.spiderweb.com.au/~frasbett Peter J. Fraser-Tibbett

I am researching the KENNEDY, BROWN, CAVE, and ORR families of County Down NIR, especially in the area or Killyleagh and Downpatrick. I am especially interested in the period 1750-1850. Does anyone have LDS Batch or film numbers for these areas or times? Does anyone have connections to these families? I would be interested in comparing notes. Thanks Mike Kennedy Dayton Ohio

I just found the coolest site! It seems to have quite a bit of data in it. http://192.41.11.174/distantc/ launie

Hello Charles, Thanks for that bit of history! Coincidentally my Breakey ancestors played a significant role in the development of the linen industry in Ireland. All the Greenvale Mills in the early 18th century were built by Isaiah Breakey b 1688 of Ballybay, Co. Monaghan. Isaiah and his brother Obadiah b 1692 also bleached linen. Thomas C Breakey (1834-1914) states in his memoirs: "It can be honestly be said our Huguenot ancestors brought the knowledge of manufacturing and bleaching linen to this country." -- Colin Ferguson Coarsegold, CA, USA http://www.foothillsoftware.com/genealogy.html BAKER*BREAKEY*BUCHAN*COLLIN*COX*CRISP*CULLIFORD* DeBREQUET*DRISCOLL*ELLIOTT*FERGUSON*FREDERICK* HUNT*HYSLOP*KING*LAHY*MCCLEAN*NEW*SMALL*THOMAS* VINCE*WILKIN*YOUNG

Colin Ferguson wrote: > > Hello All, > > I found the following entries in Holden's Triennal Directory - LDS Film > #0100179. My question is what kind of records exist to follow up and > learn more about any of these entries? I am particularly interested in > Ferguson & Elliot. > > Belfast 1809 > Ferguson, John S. linen merchant & factor, Donegall Place > Ferguson, R & F, haberdashers, 125 High-St. > Ferguson & Elliot, wine & spririt merchants, 57 Hercules St. > Ferguson, Wm. & J, haberdashers, 50 High-St. > Ferguson, Wm. tailor, Legg's-lane > -- Seeing the entry for Ferguson, linen merchant, reminds me that Dr. James Ferguson of Whiteabbey was licensed to conduct experiments in bleaching of linen and received in 1770 a grant of 300 pounds from the Linen Board."In bleaching a dark coloured substance is extracted by the leys out of linen; this substance is found to consist of a ponderous oil and some particles of earth. The Chymists generally agree that alcaline salts and saponaceous substnaces are the proper solvents for bodys that are of an oily nature; the activity of which may be however greatly heightened if to them be added a certain proportion of quicklime." The manuscript of Dr. Ferguson's "Experimental essay in the use of leys and sours in bleaching" is preserved in the Linenhall Library, Belfast. Dr. Ferguson's son James continued in the linen trade at White Park, Ballynure which was eventually sold in 1929 to Nicholson and Templeton.

In a message dated 99-05-20 21:35:01 EDT, [email protected] writes: << Hello Charles, Thanks for that bit of history! Coincidentally my Breakey ancestors played a significant role in the development of the linen industry in Ireland. All the Greenvale Mills in the early 18th century were built by Isaiah Breakey b 1688 of Ballybay, Co. Monaghan. Isaiah and his brother Obadiah b 1692 also bleached linen. Thomas C Breakey (1834-1914) states in his memoirs: "It can be honestly be said our Huguenot ancestors brought the knowledge of manufacturing and bleaching linen to this country." >> ======================================================= This interest in linnen was also found in the colonies. I recently found the following entry in Somerset County Maryland Judicial Records: JUNE COURT 1737 "Ordered by the Court that James Strawbridge be allowed and have an order on the Sheriffe of Somerset County for four pounds current money of Maryland he producing here in Court the second best piece of linnen according to act of assembly in such case made and provided." (Mary Slingo produced the "first best" piece -5 pounds; Capt Edmund Round took 3rd - 3 pounds ) The linnen industry never took in this area. I suppose the climate wasn't ideal and more money was to be made in tobacco. Not sure if Strawbridge was himself Scotch-Irish, but he was a member of the Presbyterian community that mostly came to Somerset from the Presbytery of Laggan - Donegal. This included some Huguenots, e.g. Brevard and Aydelotte. Strawbridge was married to Jane Polk, sister to one of my own ancestors who was definitely Scotch-Irish. John Polk Maryland USA

Hello All, I found the following entries in Holden's Triennal Directory - LDS Film #0100179. My question is what kind of records exist to follow up and learn more about any of these entries? I am particularly interested in Ferguson & Elliot. Belfast 1809 Ferguson, John S. linen merchant & factor, Donegall Place Ferguson, R & F, haberdashers, 125 High-St. Ferguson & Elliot, wine & spririt merchants, 57 Hercules St. Ferguson, Wm. & J, haberdashers, 50 High-St. Ferguson, Wm. tailor, Legg's-lane -- Colin Ferguson Coarsegold, CA, USA http://www.foothillsoftware.com/genealogy.html BAKER*BREAKEY*COLLIN*CRISP*ELLIOT*FERGUSON*FREDERICK HYSLOP*KING*MCCLEAN*NEW*VINCE*YOUNG

Searching for information on a large family of Burke's who were born and lived in Lower Campsie, District of Eglinton, Derry. The father, James Burke, (1863-1960) worked for a Major Quinn at Campsie. His wife was Mary Jane Corlett (1865-1944) . Family emigrated to western Canada in 1907-1908. Any help greatly appreciated. Dorothy Gladish

thank you to all the kind people who responded to my query re Dalziel in Ireland - have some direction to in now! Helen in Montréal

Hello, I am new to the list and am wondering if anyone has ever come across the name DALZIEL in Irish research? Thank you Helen in Montréal

My grandfather was Thomas A Laverty, born 1866 in County Antrim. He married Anna McMullen b.1884. His father was Thomas Moore Laverty b. 1836 and married Margaret Paul b. 1830. We think he was born in County Antrim also. Thomas M Laverty had 6 children. John b. 1858, Margaret b 1862, Patrick b. 1861, Aggie b. 1869, Matilda b 1864 and Thomas A. (my gradfather). They all came to US in 1870 and are buried in Iowa.

www.snoopsisters.net Try this site. One sister is in Canada and the other in Antrim. They have many many cemetery records and are honest and reliable. Thank you No I do not get anything from this, just want to share the information. Marianne in Las Vegas